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Strawberrygirl

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Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« on: 22 September 2018, 05:42:44 pm »
Hi!

I had a client who underpaid me a significant amount. Does anyone have experience of (trying to) getting money back from someone who didn't pay or underpaid? If the amount was lower I'd probably just let it go, but its a significant amount and I have a lot of personal info and contacts for this guy.

Grateful for any comments here or through DM.

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #1 on: 22 September 2018, 07:32:11 pm »
Do a search here for other people's experience, but..

.. the courts won't enforce sex-based contracts, so ignore anyone who suggests suing;

.. don't do anything that the police would interpret as blackmail;

.. he may have committed one of the fraud offences, but the police are unlikely to be interested unless you can find the others he's done this to.

How did they pay?
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #2 on: 22 September 2018, 08:36:04 pm »
Why do you know so much about him, is he a regular?

Any chance he made a mistake and you could say to him.


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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #3 on: 22 September 2018, 08:52:24 pm »
Why do you know so much about him, is he a regular?

Any chance he made a mistake and you could say to him.

It was an outcall and the OP has posted in Warnings about it, so she'll have sensibly done proper security checks before she went and got the information when she did :). Less sensibly, she agreed to extend the booking without being paid upfront and as a result of that there's pretty much nothing anybody can do about it now, for the reasons Ian has posted already.

It's a valuable lesson that an awful lot of people learn (and I daresay our Warnings board would be a lot shorter if they didn't), but it's a mistake nobody makes twice. All anybody can do is be thankful they're safe and unharmed, and make sure it never happens again. And warn others, which at least might prevent it happening to somebody else :).

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #4 on: 22 September 2018, 08:56:37 pm »
Some of us are a bit long in the tooth here, myself included (don't shout at or shoot me please) so know that an underpaying man is not something we will likely encounter as we ensure full and correct payment is made at the right time ie before they get to do the do with us. 

If it is an extended booking and they say will pay the difference, get it FIRST and never mind if you feel it could spoil those beautiful moments. I have been there and done that, client books and pays for one hour then asks to extend as that hour is almost up (insert your own circumstances here) and feel awkward asking and expecting him to *get up off the bed and fumble through his wallet.

Not doing the * could easily mean he suddenly realises he only brought enough cash for the original planned duration and you end up out of pocket.

Once bitten twice shy is the phrase I think.

Gather your guts and ask him nicely to settle the extra payment before the time extension begins and if he doesn't like it then he shall be lumping it.

Nothing enforceable legality wise I doubt and the case in hand is one to be written off to experience and not to be repeated. Yes I read the warning in the other section so know what this lady is referring to.

Submitted this post before reading the above. Same comments apply.
« Last Edit: 22 September 2018, 11:08:11 pm by Justine »

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #5 on: 22 September 2018, 10:55:48 pm »
This is why payment has to be upfront, or accept the loss if he doesn't pay up at the end.

The sex contract is unenforceable so no come back if someone doesn't cough up.

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #6 on: 23 September 2018, 01:44:55 pm »
Hi everyone, and thank you for the input. I guess I'll just have to take this as a lesson for the future. Have reported him everywhere so at least that's put my mind at ease a bit. x

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #7 on: 09 October 2018, 09:46:22 pm »
I had someone underpay recently, but I think it was an accident as he came back with it after I let him know.

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #8 on: 10 October 2018, 08:42:05 am »
Hi!

I had a client who underpaid me a significant amount. Does anyone have experience of (trying to) getting money back from someone who didn't pay or underpaid? If the amount was lower I'd probably just let it go, but its a significant amount and I have a lot of personal info and contacts for this guy.

Grateful for any comments here or through DM.
When this has happened to me and they’ve rebooked, I dock it off their time without telling them :)

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #9 on: 10 October 2018, 10:31:06 am »
Hi everyone, and thank you for the input. I guess I'll just have to take this as a lesson for the future. Have reported him everywhere so at least that's put my mind at ease a bit. x

You could tell him you have passed it on to security/ debt collectors and they will be paying him a visit to collect. It worked for a friend of mine with an arsehole and she got a male to contact him he ended up paying up. Might be worth a try.

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #10 on: 10 October 2018, 12:33:26 pm »
You could tell him you have passed it on to security/ debt collectors and they will be paying him a visit to collect. It worked for a friend of mine with an arsehole and she got a male to contact him he ended up paying up. Might be worth a try.

I really wouldn't advise that, he could get the hump and take it our on you physically.

It's horrible not being paid for the work you have done, but sadly I would just say chalk this up to experience, no one makes this mistake twice.  And we/most of us myself included, have let a regular pay at end or not counted the money to be short changed.

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #11 on: 11 October 2018, 12:40:59 pm »
Before going independent I worked in a brothel and gradually I noticed as time went on I became the only woman working there as he other girls all left!
The reason was because the madam was a pretty vile character who it soon became apparent was taking advantage of the ladies. She was very much into money and it wouldn’t be unusual to turn up to a shift to find her not there and no phones either ( she had a compulsive gambling habit and would be spending the money in the casino)

I was in a poor situation at the time as I hadn’t dreamed of going independent and was unsure where to find a new place to work. My previous place in Chelsea has closed so I was desperate to work.

Anyway this woman was also illegally in the country and had been an ex WG now madam. She was also heavily pregnant and used to service clients to fund her gambling addiction.
A few times she would not pay your cut of the money as she owed money to card boys etc.
Looking back I wonder why I put up with it.


Anyway one night she brought some guy back with here from the casino who was high on coke and she made it her priority to rinse him of every last penny he had.
At one point she even brought in a plate with white powder in it and took £60 from him but the powder was 100%!paracetamol but he was so messed up he barely noticed.

She refused as her duty as a madam to go to the cashpoint blaming the fact she was pregnant and tired and allowed me rather foolishly to work on trust that at the end of the session he would pay if I accompanied him.
He basically on going to the cash point tried to escape me on the Edgware Road and I literally had to drag him back to the flat to explain to her. He confessed he had no money left but would pay another time.
Bullshit.
My fault for being gullible and trusting and also that of the madam who had fleeced him in such a way that she was happy with the money she had already made from him.

I put it down to experience but would never ever trust a client again. No matter how regular they are or how long I’ve known them

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #12 on: 12 October 2018, 03:30:08 am »
There isn't really anything you can do, other than refuse to see him again without transferring the lost earnings, or insisting in fixed pay with the lost pay on the next meet.

I would just say in the future, get all the potential earning up front, or pause to get paid if they want to extend. Don't continue unless you have cash in your hand.

There is nothing earned by using what you know about him other than to post a warning (like you have done), as the police won't take any notice. But if you haven't you should consider also reporting him to NUM (national ugly mugs), which has a pretty broad reach. Anything like outing could lead to a lot of problems for you. Best to keep it discrete.

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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #13 on: 12 October 2018, 10:18:51 am »
A few months ago my friend had a regular extend the session and said he would bank transfer the cash after the meet.

Surprise surprise, he didn't, and was ignoring my friend's texts and not picking up her calls.

I phoned him on her behalf and just said "Hi, you saw my friend X yesterday and agreed to do a bank transfer immediately after the booking, which you haven't done. Why is that please?" He stuttered and then said "Oh I forgot." I said "Well let's do it now then shall we?" and made him stay on the line while he did it.

Total idiot, is now obviously blacklisted but has tried to book again on numerous occasions. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, he knew how good the pussy was but for the sake of £80 he's now lost access to it forever.
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Re: Advice on getting money back from under-paying client
« Reply #14 on: 12 October 2018, 10:42:01 am »
I really wouldn't advise that, he could get the hump and take it our on you physically.

If he has even half a brain he'll just laugh his head off. Most people know that you can't just call a bailiff/debt collector and demand they go and take money from people because you want them to - the paperwork (including court orders and such) is horrific and the process takes forever, or at least with legally enforceable debts it does. Since this isn't a legally enforceable debt, it wouldn't take long at all because any legit debt collector wouldn't string you along and would tell you straight out that there's nothing they can do.