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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Louise82s on 30 June 2019, 09:44:37 pm
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Hi girls
I'll try and keep this simple...
So a guy wants me to meet in a pub he runs after hours.
We agree 9pm on a Sunday once pub closed. He somehow found me on fb beforehand which rang first alarm bell.
He said that this is new to him so to have a drink with him in pub before we do our thing.
Then he changes time to 10pm as pub still has customers. He also then asks how much for an overnight.
Then an hour before meet he says to come now and have a drink with him while customers are still in pub.
This pub is 5 minutes from where I live.
Does this all sound strange? Should i cancel?
Thanks in advance....
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Update:
I said originally I was going to drive.
He has asked me to now get a taxi.
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As always go with your gut. I’d have said no at the first ask of coming to a closed pub after hours.
But if youre comfortable with that then insist on only after hours (not with customers still lurking ). And ask him to confirm before whether he’s after a shorter session or an overnight (as I imagine you’d need to prep / take more things for an overnight) doesn’t sound like he knows what he wants. Which is annoying and a small red flag.
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As always go with your gut. I’d have said no at the first ask of coming to a closed pub after hours.
But if youre comfortable with that then insist on only after hours (not with customers still lurking ). And ask him to confirm before whether he’s after a shorter session or an overnight (as I imagine you’d need to prep / take more things for an overnight) doesn’t sound like he knows what he wants. Which is annoying and a small red flag.
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Thanks for your advice hun.
It's the fact it keeps changing...I'm just not sure I'm comfortable.
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Thanks for your advice hun.
It's the fact it keeps changing...I'm just not sure I'm comfortable.
Then sack him off and enjoy the rest of your night girl!
If he was serious about booking he’d have confirmed a time etc. Wouldn’t be wasting time with asking for odd stuff like ‘get a taxi’...
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He has now offered me more after I said I'm not doing it.
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Do you have a security buddy I would decline the extra cash making it clear all you want is a definite time, you provide your own transport and no drinking involved.
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I don't like it-
The FB circumstances I don't really understand (I don't do social media) but you already feel a bit 'wrong' about.
He keeps changing terms that's number one screaming red flag which would alone get an instant rejection from me. I wouldn't need any other reason.
I don't like him arranging for you both being seen on his own intimate turf with his buds.
I don't like the alcohol environment and work mix. I don't accept drinkers as clients.
Domestic homes I can figure out doors locks and escape plan, in a commercial building with specialised locks security systems I'm at a disadvantage
He's a bit too close for comfort...bumping into him afterwards is a possibility. I don't like that. I've done jobs on the other side of my road, but I am highly disguised. I don't expect to be recognised afterwards.
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I don't like it-
The FB circumstances I don't really understand (I don't do social media) but you already feel a bit 'wrong' about.
He keeps changing terms that's number one screaming red flag which would alone get an instant rejection from me.
I don't like him arranging for you both being seen on his own intimate turf with his buds.
I don't like the alcohol environment and work mix. I don't accept drinkers as clients.
Domestic homes I can figure out doors locks and escape plan, in a commercial building with specialised locks security systems I'm at a disadvantage
He's a bit too close for comfort...bumping into him afterwards is a possibility. I don't like that. I've done jobs on the other side of my road, but I am highly disguised. I don't expect to be recognised afterwards.
Thanks for your post (and others who have also give their advice).
He keeps messaging me saying pub is nearly empty and says he will pay me x amount per hour I stay and so on.
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;D keep safe
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Sounds like some fantasist wasting your time. I'd be really surprised this was genuine.
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At the risk of sounding like your mum, please think twice about taking this booking.
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At the risk of sounding like your mum, please think twice about taking this booking.
We’re all everyone’s mother here I feel :P 8)
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LOL. Pubs don't shut at 9pm. Pure time waster there.
Easy way to check: ask for the name of the pub and the road it's on, google it, call the number ask ask for him by name.
"Get a taxi" my fat arse.
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I canceled and he keeps sending me texts about making it up to me. Saying he will pay into my account now and things like that. Literally text after text.
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Just a thing - there probably is CCTV in this pub, so there is a high chance he could have tried to have a recording of the meeting.
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As said by another, what pub closes at 9pm?
I think I would have ignored him completely after the first message anyway.
Why feed timewasters with replies? So you could turn up at said pub with customers still there and be the butt of a joke and a wind up. Like the men who ask to meet in a hotel bar. Oh yes so they can be sitting in the corner watching you walk in or be with their mates having a laugh.
If in doubt, do nowt! :)
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SERIOUSLY block him asap and do not involve in any contact with him.
Pubs do not close at 9pm. Any guy offering more than your rate are not only a TW but dangerous.
Please take my word from it.
I speak from experience and the guy is now in prison for a very long time. Will not detail why, but any guy that offers to pay more is desperate.
Please block him asap.
A warning about him is appreciated to warn others.
Stay safe and if you are not comfortable with any booking request, do not accept it.
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Some small pubs might have limited opening hours, I have come across these on my travels.
The alarm bells for me are the wanting to mess your boundaries around, offering extra money and involvement of alcohol.
I always decline extra unless it's a discreetly offered tip once I'm there, anything I do is in my rate extra does not change my terms and conditions or screening which includes checking the property exists, taking steps to increase chances he'll be there, and in a state in which I can deal with.
Telling you to get a taxi is another alarm bell, you need to be in charge of your transport whether you drive, taxi, bus it's for you to arrange. His suggestion sounds like he intends you to be over the drink drive limit.
His repeated texting when rejected is not a good sign either, so distressing when this happens. I'd just tell him to cease contact, if he continues you'll approach the police on grounds of unwanted contact and harassment.
Most licensees do not want any trouble with the police, as I understand it puts their suitability and license at risk.
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I would be worried about how he found your Facebook. Does your work number connect you to there?
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At the risk of sounding like your mum, please think twice about taking this booking.
make me smile and happy! how we can support each others? it is amazing!
when i need to post about a potential booking on here, it is almost clear that it is red flag!
so when you got small doubt or huge ones, to me better do not take it...it is your gut that make you write a post about and so keep sending some doubts...
be safe and do not care about money! some they want appeal you in offering extra money....
never accept something like this...they think they control you with money! idiots!
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Thanks all for the advice
I've blocked him as he wouldnt stop texting me.
Thanks again all.
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Thanks all for the advice
I've blocked him as he wouldnt stop texting me.
Thanks again all.
Glad to hear. You have dodged a bullet.
Anything similar in the future, just block.
A booking should be:-
He contacts you for a booking; nice quick chat on the phone; date/time/location agreed; both meet; he pays the agreed fee in cash up front; he is clean and respectful; you both have a good time and part after time elapsed.
Both parties happy.
Anything else that pushes boundaries is a no go from the start. I do not tolerate any idiots whether in or out of this industry.