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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: northernstar on 19 October 2019, 01:27:10 pm
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Hiya
Had a weird and annoying issue today. For advance bookings I always ask them at the start of the day to confirm their bookings. This way I am trying to avoid no shows and timewasters . He made his booking a few days ago and we confirmed yesterday. However I am still following my system. A few ours after I sent the message I said to him if no update at x time I will book someone else in.
He then responds that he has a family and I am indiscreet. Cancels on me due to my messages which he claims are not necessary (they absolutely are to me).
How to handle that crap? I am a business and I can’t be hanging in the air like that. Never had a complaint about it before, the rest seem to understand that. He then adds, I will give you a positive because I am a gentleman. Ugh. I have not done anything wrong!!
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Maybe take deposits and then that will for go you needing to contact them on the day, they contact you to confirm or they lose their money.
But also a tip I was told was not to confirm any bookings on AW until they have taken place. Schedule yes confirm no so the feedback will only be neutral if it goes badly etc.
Maybe also lay the law down when they first book? Say when they must contact you to confirm so again you don’t contact them.
But it all boils down to you cannot please everyone.
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On AW Always schedule the booking. Only confirm afterwards.
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Once he's done the positive you can give him a neg to make others aware he's unreasonable and doesn't follow instructions. Don't do it before though.
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"Gee X, if you have a family, perhaps you should consider another hobby.
Like quilting. Quilting's a good hobby."
Fuck that noise, man. They have to text me an hour before the appt or I consider it a NCNS. This is explained etc in the first call/contact.
This shit infuriates me.😡
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Sounds like a bellend.
If they book days in advance I ask them to confirm by say 10am on the day. If they don’t then the slot is available to someone else.
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He “confirmed” it yesterday and I didn’t not tell him I will be checking him in the morning. But surely it’s not a fucking crime is it? Does he have his misses monitoring the phone?
Still no feedback. Tempted to give a negative but it might be one of those unhinged ones that could start a smear campaign all over the place. Petty prick.
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He “confirmed” it yesterday and I didn’t not tell him I will be checking him in the morning. But surely it’s not a fucking crime is it? Does he have his misses monitoring the phone?
Still no feedback. Tempted to give a negative but it might be one of those unhinged ones that could start a smear campaign all over the place. Petty prick.
Did you both agree to confirm on the day and the method?
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Did you both agree to confirm on the day and the method?
Yes - I don't want or encourage advance bookings, but in the event that I have one then it has to be confirmed by phone or text first thing on the day and I make sure this is understood.
However your post reads as if you texted or called this man out of the blue at a time which had not been previously agreed and I would never contact them like this. Like GG, if they don't confirm, they're automatically cancelled and somebody else gets the slot - he sounds like a bit of a dick, but I can't see what he's done to deserve a negative feedback (or any feedback) given that leaving this may do other women out of some money if they're daft enough to take it seriously, and we know from posts here some do?
Does he have his misses monitoring the phone?
She might or might not be and he may not even know if she is - it's none of your business. He also could have just gone for a piss and left his phone on the kitchen table when your 'message' (and it sounds as if you're talking about a text rather than an email, despite your posts being vague) arrived. I agree that a confirmation procedure is vital, but it's for them to contact us, not the other way round.
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Erm... too many times I’ve had them making a booking and going AWOL or coming up with a more or less lame excuse not to come. I’d rather do it first and give it a deadline, then it no answer I either plan my day differently or book someone else in. No way I will hang around for them to message first and making my day (completely) dependent on this, just to get ready and be left on my arse last minute. Even with the morning message it happens.
It was via text message.
I will need to stress when booking with them, that such a message will be sent - it’s not enough to just ask them and sit passively as men are generally unreliable af.
I won’t bother with any feedback but quite pissed off that asking to confirm results in a cancellation - nobody had that issue previously.
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Yeah I have to agree, it is up to them to confirm. If you dont want to be sitting about all day then state when they book that they must confirm by X time on the day of the appointment. Then if they haven't confirmed by then you've not wasted your day sitting about and can potentially get another client.
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Erm... too many times I’ve had them making a booking and going AWOL or coming up with a more or less lame excuse not to come. I’d rather do it first and give it a deadline, then it no answer I either plan my day differently or book someone else in. No way I will hang around for them to message first and making my day (completely) dependent on this, just to get ready and be left on my arse last minute. Even with the morning message it happens.
It was via text message.
I will need to stress when booking with them, that such a message will be sent - it’s not enough to just ask them and sit passively as men are generally unreliable af.
I won’t bother with any feedback but quite pissed off that asking to confirm results in a cancellation - nobody had that issue previously.
Yes you need a definite confirmation time - I state that at least once during the booking process. Once the booking is in place my last communication will usually be "Please don't forget to confirm on the day by x am/pm (learned to give am/pm to avoid confusion), if I do not hear from you I may assume you are not attending".
VERRRY, very occasionally I may chase depending on the person, history with me and a few other things.
I keep this in place for as many clients as possible, a few very long term regulars have different routines for cancelling which have developed over the years which suits us both. Quite a few do like the reassurance for themselves, it's also at this point I provide final directions/full address.
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How to manage the same day ones? Just had a no show from someone who booked at noon. Asking them to re confirm again one hour before doesn’t allow enough time to “source” a different booking :-(
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How to manage the same day ones? Just had a no show from someone who booked at noon. Asking them to re confirm again one hour before doesn’t allow enough time to “source” a different booking :-(
I know some ladies have a reserve list. If a person doesnt confirm then they will let the next person know that time is now available (only if the person has agreed to be put on reserve and agreed to be contacted)
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Oh I misunderstood so my reply regarding the client is too harsh.
He's a simple 'no-confirm'. I agree with Amy no need to pursue any further and pester him. We all hang round in our knickers sometimes and prospective clients can be unreliable. We all like to plan our day so you're not alone. I have a fair expected period of confirmation, 15-30 minutes before the gig and yours is probably 5-8 hours before. Neither is right or wrong, they have different pros and cons.
He has to confirm yesterday and today?
If he didn't confirm today at X time I wouldn't chase him. What do you hope to achieve?
'No call', is his way of saying,'Im not interested' and you can relax and do other nice stuff rather than letting it destroy your day.
I think your confirming many hours or a day before the booking is the issue, it allows too much time for them to have a change of heart...drop outs are normal to expect. Plus you don't have a deposit system as an incentive so they're free to go off the boil. Cocks have no loyalty.
If over 50% of them turn up on your present system I think you're doing very well indeed.
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Oh I misunderstood so my reply regarding the client is too harsh.
He's a simple 'no-confirm'. I agree with Amy no need to pursue any further and pester him. We all hang round in our knickers sometimes and prospective clients can be unreliable. We all like to plan our day so you're not alone. I have a fair expected period of confirmation, 15-30 minutes before the gig and yours is probably 5-8 hours before. Neither is right or wrong, they have different pros and cons.
He has to confirm yesterday and today?
If he didn't confirm today at X time I wouldn't chase him. What do you hope to achieve?
'No call', is his way of saying,'Im not interested' and you can relax and do other nice stuff rather than letting it destroy your day.
I think your confirming many hours or a day before the booking is the issue, it allows too much time for them to have a change of heart...drop outs are normal to expect. Plus you don't have a deposit system as an incentive so they're free to go off the boil. Cocks have no loyalty.
If over 50% of them turn up on your present system I think you're doing very well indeed.
Yes I had a few confirm the night before then disappear so learned to ask for on the day, and early enough to rearrange or get on with my own things if they don't.
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Nope it's what I do, i expect them to confirm on the day, if they do t i send a message saying, hi I am taking it you can no longer require an appointment. I've never had any issues from clients with doing this x
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I need to refine my system then. The risk of this is - he wants to attend but forgets. So my message sometimes serves as a reminder. But like a few said, best to perhaps explain at the time of booking what’s required of them.
But I find no matter how many hoops we make them jump through, there is always that one that will pull a no show. The most infuriating type blocks you right away when you ask if he’s on the way or outside or anything like that. Sometimes there’s no way avoiding that. Unless you’ve got enough balls to ask for deposits and lucky not to lose business that way
I am also taking the note of not confirming the bookings. Had a scenario when he got me a negative because I dared to cancel two weeks in advance. The cock waited all that time just to spoil a flawless record.
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I always advise guys who are new to punting to invest in a different sim or phone for this hobby as I’ve heard of cases where some ladies will text them six months later out of the blow with a special offer half price blow job. But you still have to be discreet with all guys and assume they haven’t done it and never text them out the blue. At the time they call and book I will book all the guys in for the time they want even if three of them want 6pm. They are all told to text one hour before. The guy who texts one hour before to confirm is the one who gets the booking. If two of them send that confirmation text I deal with the problem by moving the time. I find that the ones who call at the last minute wanting to come within the hour are far more reliable than the ones who call at 11am wanting to book 6pm. When I was at work the other day I remember having four booked in at 11am and same again at 6. But after a couple not confirming and a couple running late it all worked out. If one of your treble booked is running late then you can say the guy who was due after him arrived early and you didn’t want to turn him away because sometimes when guys say they will be late that don’t always show up.
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I need to refine my system then. The risk of this is - he wants to attend but forgets. So my message sometimes serves as a reminder. But like a few said, best to perhaps explain at the time of booking what’s required of them.
But I find no matter how many hoops we make them jump through, there is always that one that will pull a no show. The most infuriating type blocks you right away when you ask if he’s on the way or outside or anything like that. Sometimes there’s no way avoiding that. Unless you’ve got enough balls to ask for deposits and lucky not to lose business that way
I am also taking the note of not confirming the bookings. Had a scenario when he got me a negative because I dared to cancel two weeks in advance. The cock waited all that time just to spoil a flawless record.
Somebody gave you a negative for cancelling 2 weeks in advance???? I hope you disputed that!
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Somebody gave you a negative for cancelling 2 weeks in advance???? I hope you disputed that!
I have and explained at the time it was something I couldn’t mitigate. Complete prick.
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If i take a booking with there phone number which is how i do my bookings then if an emergency happened to me and i needed to cancel i would contact them to let them though otherwise why give out there number if you cannot contact. But if i do need to cancel i send a vague text saying sorry i cannot make the booking i never make it clear what i do for work just incase someone else happens to pick the phone up.
Personally i do not get why clients make bookings with there personal telephone number if they are up to no good and there wife or family could look at it surely it it down to them to cover there own back not us. We are just trying to run a business and part of that could be having to contact them to possibly cancel or rearrange a booking which could be out of the blue but keeping the message vague should not be a problem otherwise do not book or at least explain not to contact xyz times so it is made fully clear what there situation is.
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If i take a booking with there phone number which is how i do my bookings then if an emergency happened to me and i needed to cancel i would contact them to let them though otherwise why give out there number if you cannot contact. But if i do need to cancel i send a vague text saying sorry i cannot make the booking i never make it clear what i do for work just incase someone else happens to pick the phone up.
Personally i do not get why clients make bookings with there personal telephone number if they are up to no good and there wife or family could look at it surely it it down to them to cover there own back not us. We are just trying to run a business and part of that could be having to contact them to possibly cancel or rearrange a booking which could be out of the blue but keeping the message vague should not be a problem otherwise do not book or at least explain not to contact xyz times so it is made fully clear what there situation is.
I am surprised at the amount of men who also use their personal phones to book escorts and what’s even more alarming is that they don’t have their What’s App settings set to hiding their profile pics from me and in these profile pics are their families, gf/wife and the kids too!
Men just don’t seem up to date with phone apps at all, you’d think they would cover all their bases!
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This is always a difficult one. I would never message a guy on his 'phone unless he said it was safe to do so. If they make an appointment for a certain time they should always confirm. I always preferred email rather than texts on mobiles. You never know where he is and who he is with, plus it could be someone else checking up on him.
If they can't email, then why not ?
Only reply never instigate
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I used to get guys to reconfirm 2 hours before but I have now changed that. Any advanced bookings have to be reconfirmed by 9am, I make it clear that I will not chase them to reconfirm and if they don't their booking will go to someone else. When they reconfirm I send them the parking postcode which within it states in capital letters PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOU GET THIS, if they don't acknowledge receipt of said text within 15 mins I send another one saying 'please let me know if you got the directions, if I don't hear back from you by ..... you're booking will be cancelled.. It has seemed to cut down the amount of no shows, although that can never be eradicated fully as there is always some arsehole that goes the whole hog.
I have had on occasion people reconfirm about 9.30 and act all indignant when told their booking is no more, but tough!
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Hiya
Had a weird and annoying issue today. For advance bookings I always ask them at the start of the day to confirm their bookings. This way I am trying to avoid no shows and timewasters . He made his booking a few days ago and we confirmed yesterday. However I am still following my system. A few ours after I sent the message I said to him if no update at x time I will book someone else in.
He then responds that he has a family and I am indiscreet. Cancels on me due to my messages which he claims are not necessary (they absolutely are to me).
How to handle that crap? I am a business and I can’t be hanging in the air like that. Never had a complaint about it before, the rest seem to understand that. He then adds, I will give you a positive because I am a gentleman. Ugh. I have not done anything wrong!!
was it a text or email ? I do this through mail usually on AW unless a punter specifically says I can text him which some do. I'd never just text a punter out the blue at any time as it is indiscreet. if they don't confirm I just presume they arnt coming and find another punter