Hi Aurora

Most of my work is Incalls, with about one outcall per month either to a private residence or a hotel.

With incalls you have to be aware of neighbours and discretion.  You dont want to attract too much attention, whether its from your  home or a working flat.  I work from my own home, so do everything I possible can to remain discreet and keep safe.

I have a cover story (which is partly true) of being self employed doing secretarial/book keeping, hence the guys visiting me.  I limit the amount of gents I see per week and there are some days that I am actually doing other things and have no gentlement callers.

Although I answer with held number calls I never accept a booking from one.  I require a mobile number and if its a land line make sure its not a phone box!  I keep a note of the guys given name and number, and if he is new to me request he phones me before 10am on the day to confirm he is still coming to visit me.  I wont accept bookings via emails, I like to chat to the guys, get a gut feeling. 

Then when they phone to confirm I give them a specific place to stop, which is up the road from me, to call me just before their appointment time.  When they do this I talk them in to where i am which is only a minute away.  I make sure they park their car where I can see it.  Its not until Im happy with that that I give out my flat number.  Before all this ive already emailed or phoned a good friend who then keeps the clients details for me, and then I phone her after the visit to say all is ok.

Fortunately Ive not had many problems.  Ive had a few timewasters who have confirmed on the day but not turned up, so thank goodness for not giving out the full address.  I tell new guys to phone me if they are caught up in traffic or running late.  I give guys ten minutes past their appointment time and if I havent heard from them then they are noted as timewasters if they havent contacted me.

I live in a small flat, I ensure that all personal effects and details are kept out of sight.  I bank as often as I can and vary my hiding places for the cash.

I keep my mobiles on but on silent, one is hidden in the bedroom, one in the bathroom, so if anything goes wrong I can try and get to the bathroom, lock the door and phone for help.

I also have a large stick under the bed, and a walking stick by the front door (used from my debt collectin days!).

Main th ing is just to be safe, think of how you want to work it and go from there.

I will leave it to others re outcalls, and maybe fill in a few gaps re incalls.

Hugs

Penny xxx

Incall: it's your space, you know where things are, you know things are clean (and, if you've any sensitivities to pet fur or whatever, it's ok), you know there's no-one hiding in another room, you know you're not going to be confronted with evidence of their 'other life' ("we have to be quiet, because of the kids"), and if they don't show, you've not had a wasted journey.

Penny's covered most of the security aspects. Definitely yes to you making a call on their arrival, which they hear, saying they've arrived. Make it clear in that call that the other end has their contact details too (the killers of one male escort nicked his SIM card, expecting that to remove all evidence of the number they'd used to call him).

Outcall: you don't have to find somewhere to work from or worry about what the neighbours think. There must be other advantages or I wouldn't do it! Ah yes, you don't need to keep somewhere tidy, and you know that no-one's going to hang around afterwards to follow / rob you.


As you can see, some very lovely people successfully do incall from their own home, but personally I wouldn't consider it for a second.

In my view, if you can't afford to hire somewhere for incall work, you're not charging enough. (Plus the expense is tax deductable!)

Can clients come to the house without neighbours wondering what's going on? Penny's got one story. Another thing to consider telling the neighbours is 'counselling' - it explains why they see men arriving looking nervous and leaving looking happier If you say 'massage', they'll want one, so you need to be good at it, and they will wonder why you don't have (m)any female clients.

How are you going to keep them out of areas you don't want them to see or accidentally breaking things you don't want broken?

When they look in your bathroom cabinet - and some of them will - what are they going to see? A prescription with your name? When they look in your laundry pile, what will they find? Your underwear?

If one robbed you, what else would they get away with?

If they turned up another time, who would they find? If you've got children living there, this is why I'd suggest it's a complete no-no, but again, I know people who do it.

If they told their mates, who would turn up, typically after the pubs are shut, loudly demanding a shag?

If they're ill, it'll be your floor they're sick over. Your toilet paper they wipe their bum on (and use all of, blocking your toilet). Your cups and glasses they break.

If you don't have a spare bedroom, it can be incredibly hard to forget that it was your bed - the space will always be 'theirs' as well as 'yours'.

But having said all that, if someone is determined to do it, never let them know it is your home: make up a story about it being a friends' (a couples!) house which you use during the day / evening when they're at work.

That way, they think that

a) if they show up later they will not find you

b) if they show up later, they will find a man

c) the stray bits of paper they find - and they will look, given the chance - with your name on it is not your name, but someone else's

d) any little "keepsakes" they take (panties, perfume - not necessarily valuable but souvenirs or wanking accessories when reliving the time with you) are not yours.

Even with that, at some point, someone will come back one night and see.

Personally, I'd be happier doing streetwork than working at home, and that's saying something. But I know someone who enjoys streetwork, so it's what you're comfortable with that counts.

You could of course share with someone (lots do) but if you do that, you will need to set clear boundaries as regards charges, bills, days hours etc.

Yep, plus once you do that, the place becomes a brothel - which is illegal to own or run... which is what you're doing by setting those boundaries.

Over the past year, I've had two calls from women facing a charge of running a brothel, plus a claim to seize all their earnings going back years, all as a result of sub-letting their work flats on their days off.

As you say, a lot of people do it, but you have to be very careful, especially in areas which actively close down any brothels they know about. The rule about never annoying the neighbours is particularly important here!

As a single worker, you're not committing an offence. As someone subletting, you are and you don't know what's happening when you're not there. So you have to really trust whoever it is.

Edit: Oh - if you're subletting from someone else, you should be fine as long as you don't pay the bills etc, just hand over the rent money for someone else to do so. I'd expect to be charged a premium for this relative safety though!

Big hugs and thank you so much to everyone who's given me their advice.  I've found it all extremely useful and hope others do too.  Apologies Richard for stating 'ladies' in the title! 

With incalls you have to be aware of neighbours and discretion.  You dont want to attract too much attention, whether its from your  home or a working flat.

I keep my mobiles on but on silent, one is hidden in the bedroom, one in the bathroom, so if anything goes wrong I can try and get to the bathroom, lock the door and phone for help.

Main th ing is just to be safe, think of how you want to work it and go from there.

The mobile phone hidden somewhere is a great idea Penny. I'm hoping to rent somewhere just for incalls but I wouldn't want to disturb the neighbours. 

try getting a cctv camera installed they can be discreet nowadays and some can be as small and fitted into a spyhole,

Also it would put potential 'baddies' off if they were aware of CCTV.

Incall: it's your space, you know where things are, you know things are clean (and, if you've any sensitivities to pet fur or whatever, it's ok), you know there's no-one hiding in another room, you know you're not going to be confronted with evidence of their 'other life' ("we have to be quiet, because of the kids"), and if they don't show, you've not had a wasted journey.

There won't be any hidden cameras filming either and also no-one will be able to just walk in on you.

Some great advice there.

All I'd add is that I think most girls find an large increase in business when they add incalls as lots of men are out and about during the day and just want to pop in somewhere on route.

You could of course share with someone (lots do) but if you do that, you will need to set clear boundaries as regards charges, bills, days hours etc.

Alternatively you could book a hotel one day a week and take incalls from there. There is a little bit on doing that on the SAAFE touring page:
http://www.saafe.info/touring.htm

Some gents have said they want to see me but can't have me turning up at their home, which seems to be a common problem for outcalls. Touring may be what I do at times but only with a maid/security person with me.

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You could of course share with someone (lots do) but if you do that, you will need to set clear boundaries as regards charges, bills, days hours etc.

Yep, plus once you do that, the place becomes a brothel - which is illegal to own or run... which is what you're doing by setting those boundaries.

As a single worker, you're not committing an offence. As someone subletting, you are and you don't know what's happening when you're not there. So you have to really trust whoever it is.

Edit: Oh - if you're subletting from someone else, you should be fine as long as you don't pay the bills etc, just hand over the rent money for someone else to do so. I'd expect to be charged a premium for this relative safety though!

I'm a bit confused by this law because if you rent a room, pay for the use of that room and the owner has nothing to do with whatever you do (just like a maid would be like) I thought that was legal these days? So are all parlours illegal brothels? If so, then I can't understand why some have been around for years and why they'd want to advertise so openly?

Never work alone. Lots of girls do and will disagree but I think the risks are unacceptable. So it's worth paying someone to sit in a seperate room for peace of mind if you are working from home or in a flat.

I totally agree with you. 'Baddies' will get to know who works alone, therefore making that person more vulnerable, and more likely as a easier target. Even if you do work alone I'd still pretend to the client there was someone else in another room. Afterall, above anything else, each and everyone of us is too valuable to put a price on!
I'll take all your experienced advise on board, my safety is of paramount importance. It's certainly given me a lot to think about.
Keep safe and have fun    

Thanks for the legal info.

It goes around the houses that much it has made me lose track and go dizzy! I was under the impression that the new government outline was implemented, allowing two sex workers in the same place, so now I'm very confused. 

So it's ok to be a single sex worker and sublet, but the tenant will be charged!?! What does the law say about getting paid for a 'sex working outcall' to a client who rents the property, will the client be charged?!?  What about having a threesome with another sex worker and a client - does this fall into the 'two sex workers working in the same property' - who will be liable?!?

Also, are hotels liable for prosecution when a sex worker visits there?!? 

Ahhhh this hurts my head! I truly wonder what is legal as a sex worker?!?

Think you need a degree in law to be a sex worker.  What are the consequences?

Edited it because after re-reading the original I confused myself.  Hope it makes a little bit more sense now. 

Thank you SW5 for explaining the 'ins and outs' (ahem ) in detail, I think I may have a fair understanding of the legallities now.

Considering everyone's good advise, the conclusion I've come to is, it's best to have a maid/security.

Many thanks to you all,
xx       

Outcall: you don't have to find somewhere to work from or worry about what the neighbours think. There must be other advantages or I wouldn't do it!

A post on Punterlink has reminded me the main reason is that it's much cheaper, doh!

Someone doing incall reckons the first hundred  men a year just cover her overheads, before considering tax.

I don't know how long that takes, but if you've a low level of work, the "per client" cost of renting somewhere can be high.

With her costs, one a day would mean all the money from about three months of clients ending up paying someone else's mortgage. Put like that, it doesn't sound like a good idea.