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'Career' over before it's really started?
« on: 16 July 2010, 06:45:39 pm »
I posted here last month about how I wanted to try escorting due to money issues my bf already has and I know will become a troublesome factor soon enough. We have a long distance relationship as of now and since he is not and won't be agreeable to any job I might want to take in the adult services industry I had the idea that I would dip my toe in it here at home where he'll never find out, and if I took to it try to make and save as much money here as possible. I went through Craigslist, I know that seems or probably is tacky and low rent but it was just a 'trial' thing for me and I didn't want to go through the hassle of an agency. I wanted to get a taste for what how it might be, DIY, you know? Which being a complete amateur I don't know if that was the right or wrong way to go about it. Anyhow I ended up going with 2 men - ended up 'choosing' them based on their responses, the tone and the tenor of it. The first guy was surprisingly attractive at least facially, looked fit under his clothes although when it came off not so in shape (which doesn't bother me as I've been with numerous older men before, sometimes pity fucks - and too nice to say no cause I didn't want to hurt their feelings, just went alone with it sort of thing) . Had a good time with him, he said he'd contact me again but haven't heard from him so far (I have to say I am a bit disappointed).

The 2nd guy when I saw him I was taken aback, he had a really bad lazy eye, it gave me a headache looking/talking to him because I couldn't tell what he was focusing on! He seemed and turned out to be a nice guy, but when he got to the hotel room after chatting in the bar and he took his jacket off I almost fainted. He smelled absolutely horrible - I NEVER noticed any odor before that, I can only assume somehow his jacket 'held' it in or something. I literally had to hold my breath at times and breath through my mouth it was that bad. The room and bed  and even myself stank of him, his odor - it was horrible. I didn't want to tell him to take a shower before I thought that would offend him, how are you supposed to handle a situation like that tactfully?

I'd still be okay about this whole thing - however one of the guys from CL who responded to me, I know it's someone from there because I recall the email addy, someone I sent a response to politely declining (looking back I guess if I am not interested in seeing someone best not to just respond) has been harassinng and sending me emails continuously, nothing threatening or sexual just telling me his daily goings on/about his day as if I were his girlfriend or wife - e.g. "I gotta see the judge today, looking forward to that, have a great day", "just got back from the vet, gonna fix some dinner," "just got back fromm the vet, gonna fix some dinner, anything good on TV tonight?" It/he is causing me a great deal of stress, I feel like I'm being stalked for a while I ignored him completely, then I sent him a couple stern emails telling him to stop but he kept at it, then I tried to through him off guard by being sweet and sexual, this guy responds right away as if he's a loser with nothing better to do, which he probably is. I want to get him off my back but looks like I might end up having to change my email! I never even met this guy and he's acting like this, good thing I never did meet him in person.

Help and advice - is this the way its supposed to be?
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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #1 on: 16 July 2010, 07:23:48 pm »
Well, 1st off...dont get upset when a client says he's going to call back and then doesn't. I have learned that most (if not all) clients simply do not know how to say, "I had a great time, thankyou" without adding "I'll call you again soon, what are you doing next week?" So dont get bent out of shape over that. I used to, but overtime just say, "you're welcome to come again".

2ndly, I understand having to run into icky clients (however, the lazy eye thing can be cute in a weird sort of way). I met a client with a lazy eye and I didnt even realize it. And everytime I would speak to him, he'd turn his head down and slightly to the side...and I could never figure out why.

3rdly, craigslist is not tacky. I use craigslist simply because in some towns, thats all that is available. Alot of the smaller towns are unaware of the designated escort sites and craigslist is more public. However, dont expect to get multi-hours and overnights from it. Its a baragin site and I relate it to 'the virtual streets and back alleyways' lol.

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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #2 on: 16 July 2010, 07:25:32 pm »
Hmm, for the most practical concerns first of all:

Stinky clients + tactfulness = a big waste of time, if what you mean by tactful is not saying anything. All, and I mean ALL, of my clients get in the shower before our appointment begins properly - I put a lovely, clean, folded towel in their hands and inform them that I'm just going to get their shower started and that they can get undressed in the bedroom and then I'll see them in a few minutes (i.e. after they have thoroughly scrubbed). So there isn't even a question about it! I recommend polishing up a routine like this as quickly as possible so you don't have to smell anymore BO (well, some clients manage to have a shower without doing their armpits or bumcracks but that's the subject of another thread. :-X). One thing that particularly annoys me is spending an hour washing and dressing meticulously for each client then right after the booking I have to wash and bloody blowdry my hair again because they gave me a mid-booking cuddle and my hair got in their armpit and now I've got their horrid BO lingering literally right next to my nose long after they've left. Ugh! Thanks for the gift, dood. ::)

Responding to crazy/weirdo/stalker emails = another big no-no. Simply do not respond to anything he says. Definitely do not attempt to 'confuse' him by being 'sexual'! He is already very much confused and just dying to have you respond positively to him. Save his emails, just in case you want to report him to the police for harassment - in fact, you could seriously consider reporting him for harassment, but if he doesn't know anything about you except your email address, you might as well just ignore him. Please note this bit carefully: If you told him anything about yourself, such as where you live, work or visit regularly, you might need to seriously consider informing the police right now. If you do so, send him an email telling him he's been reported and might be visited by a member of the police force very shortly. He should quickly shut up.

The bigger question in your post seems to be whether or not sex work is something you enjoy doing. I have to say that smelly clients and creepy weirdos are, well, probably a weekly occurrence for the average full-time sex worker. I can't say you've had a particularly unusual experience. But nobody here can tell you whether or not sex work is right for you - more than anyone else in the world, we know that it's a personal choice. But one that should be made with plenty of research!

There are lots of questions to consider. Are you only looking for attractive clients? Is it anything to do with missing your boyfriend or craving freedom? Do you have other options for earning money that you could be looking into instead of or as well as sex work? Do you honestly feel comfortable being sexual with occasional unattractive, pungent men? Did you expect sex work to be more glamorous? And finally, are you absolutely mad, to be meeting strange men off a message board site with no safety buddy or security in place? (Forgive me if you did actually have a security arrangement - there wasn't one mentioned so I'm assuming. And I don't mean to sound harsh with these questions. It's absolutely nothing personal as I don't know you or your full situation. But I think these questions are important for any sex worker to consider before they start and to regularly re-consider, too! :))

Most of all, I hope you're feeling okay and not too upset by your experiences. We all do impulsive things sometimes. I hope you'll look into getting a safety buddy for any future bookings that you decide to take - there's a great section here at SAAFE to check out! And of course we're all here to answer any other questions.
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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #3 on: 16 July 2010, 07:27:26 pm »
As I understand it craigslist is pretty low rent, and also seen as too dangerous by some. Things would probably get better if you moved on to better websites, and you'd certainly see some improvement over time as you get more savvy.

The first guy not getting in touch again yet is completely normal. Guys will often have a great time and talk about seeing you again but then they change their mind when the blood goes back to their brain (like if they're not habitual punters or they have a policy of only seeing a girl once) or their circumstances change. You also get guys coming back six months or a year later with no contact in between.

It's really hard to ask someone to have a shower when they've already got undressed, but if you can get the nerve to do it you shouldn't feel bad about it. The easier option is a shared bath or shower though. Some girls don't like to do it and mess up their hair and makeup, but in that case it sounds like it would have been worth it, and it's totally sexy so he's have to be an idiot to refuse. The best thing about washing together is that you can give him a soapy handjob so at least you know his nob's shiny and clean.

Your email program will have a way of automatically deleting all emails from your pesterer. He'll never know, and since he doesn't care about getting a response that should take care of it. Look for "filters", "rules", or check the help files.

When you say you might have to change your email, is it a separate work address? If so, it wouldn't be a big deal to do that at this point anyway, you could send a message to the one guy you liked to tell him. If you're using your regular email address for work then I recommend getting a new one straight away. Email addresses are free, so there's no need to have cock pictures going to the same one your friends and family use.

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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #4 on: 16 July 2010, 07:28:05 pm »
Firstly to deal with the prospect of a smelly client I politely insist that every client takes a shower and I then go in and talk to him whilst he does (some men like to stand as far from the water as possible so they dont get wet).

As for the email guy. Does your email not allow you to block him? I know yahoo, aol and hotmail all support this facility as does gmail etc. Do not respond. Do not open his mails. Get them sent to your junk folder if you cannot block him. Eventually he will realise he is wasting his time. Whilst you reply he is winning the game he has decided to play.

Once you find your feet and grow in confidence in your ability to deal with the idiots we sometimes have to put up with, things will go alot smoother.

Goodluck sweetie.

p.s are you sure that you will be ok once you meet up with your partner as this is a huge secret to keep from someone
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« Reply #5 on: 16 July 2010, 08:18:39 pm »
In the meantime I've gotten yet another email from my stalker - I realized even then I shouldn't have responded to him but he was just aggravating me so much, but then I'm sure that is his aim, to bug a girl to the point where she'll be moved to react to him. I haven't opened it and don't think I will, I'm sick of this guy. Yes I will go ahead and filter/block him at last, it's only in the past few days I've responded to him, before that I totally ignored him yet his little messages would pour in, it doesn't seem to matter whether I answered or not, but I won't give him the satisfaction anymore. I should never have declined him in response as that's the only way he got my email addy, as CL assigns you an anonymous addy when a person responds to your ad itself. He doesn't have any other information (thank God!) which would make him more of a pest than he already is or a possible danger.

I did go off with these 2 guys withhout security, I know that's foolish and I will definitely be more careful after this but I must say that when I slept casually with lots of guys before I did a lot of really stupid, risky things - e.g. one time was on vacation and walking around at night, hotel was in a nice residential part, a guy walked to his car and got in, as I walked by I heard him say excuse me and when I looked back he motioned me over and asked me if I knew of a good pub in the area. I told him I didn't and he told me to get in, that let's look for one together. Ended up getting intimate with him. When I told friends about this they thought that was crazy, that what if he'd been like Ted Bundy? But I told them that I think most men in general are looking for sex and/or companionship, that I don't think there are all these men out there looking to torture and murder you. I've gone off with a number of guys who I knew nothing about, but I was in a reckless not caring wanting to experience life phase, but that's completely worn off because I felt/feel like they got their rocks off for free, whereas here I was walking away with absolutely nada, I never got one red cent or any gifts from these men.

So I suppose my dipping my toe, interest in escorting in my mind is a way of getting what I feel I'm owed; that I want to have something to show for what I never got from these men in my past before. All I know now is that unless a man really loves me (like my boyfriend) I could and will never be with a guy unless I'm getting something out of it. I don't think that's golddigging or being a 'whore' because they're not saints themselves, we both want something. I just couldn't be with a man anymore who doesn't give a shit about me for free - the thouught of what I did and ever doing that again makes me want to throw up.
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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #6 on: 16 July 2010, 09:51:32 pm »
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One thing that particularly annoys me is spending an hour washing and dressing meticulously for each client then right after the booking I have to wash and bloody blowdry my hair again because they gave me a mid-booking cuddle and my hair got in their armpit and now I've got their horrid BO lingering literally right next to my nose long after they've left. Ugh! Thanks for the gift, dood

Emily Jones...you are just too funny. I think I laugh at just about everyone of your posts

craigslist is pretty low rent, and also seen as too dangerous by some. away.

Exactly, Now you see why Im having financial issues? Craigslist is numero uno here, and when I mention my more expensive site to craigslist clients...they've never heard of it. I occasionally get 1 or 2 who say, "I also seen you on..."

I cant speak for anyone else's cleaniless, but I have to disagree with the shower when they walk in routine. In additon to creating more laundry (for me) and use of natural resources (and energy) it sounds like a waste. Most clients (atleast here, not sure about there LOL) are showered prior. They'd probably look at me crazy if I handed them a towel and told them to wash up. In additon, some clients like to shower AFTER....when they are all covered in cum, why go thru the trouble of making them go twice.

I do get the occasional ones who rather shower beforehand, which is perfectly fine with me.


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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #7 on: 16 July 2010, 10:14:41 pm »
For my own peace of mind I insist on the shower. After all I cannot tell from looking at someone if they are fresh and sweet smelling and I dont want to find out when my head is in their nether regions. Sorry the smell of a stale pissy cock is not to my taste.

I am happy for them to shower after as well. 

Sod the amount of washing if it means I know I dont have to put my head near any offensive stench.

I am always freshly showered for a client and I expect the same in return. Some clients may have showered before but by the time they get to me they have either been sat on public transport or sat in their cars for a while and I am sorry but groins sweat alot as they tend to have at least two layers of clothing over them...URGGHHH
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« Reply #8 on: 16 July 2010, 10:29:59 pm »
Some clients may have showered before but by the time they get to me they have either been sat on public transport or sat in their cars for a while and I am sorry but groins sweat alot as they tend to have at least two layers of clothing over them...URGGHHH

Ah, I think you're being too particular. I rarely run into sweaty groins and I live in a place that gets 100+ degrees.

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« Reply #9 on: 16 July 2010, 10:46:54 pm »
That is your view and you are entitled to it although how anyone can be too particular about hygiene in this job is beyond me. Me, I prefer to know that everything is clean rather than just hope.
I have quite an acute sense of smell and when I first started out ran into far too many smelly genitals to ever go back to taking that risk again.

We all work different ways and I am happy with the way I work  ;D
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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #10 on: 16 July 2010, 11:15:04 pm »
Can?t really add to what has been said regarding advice, apart from you could also mark your emailpest as junk, so any of him messages go into that folder. Oh and search the forum for other threads about smelly clients, weirdos, etc. there is a lot of advice in those.

One thing that particularly annoys me is spending an hour washing and dressing meticulously for each client then right after the booking I have to wash and bloody blowdry my hair again because they gave me a mid-booking cuddle and my hair got in their armpit and now I've got their horrid BO lingering literally right next to my nose long after they've left. Ugh! Thanks for the gift, dood. ::)
That is so true!
For my own peace of mind I insist on the shower. After all I cannot tell from looking at someone if they are fresh and sweet smelling and I dont want to find out when my head is in their nether regions. Sorry the smell of a stale pissy cock is not to my taste.

I always offer a shower before and after, but don?t always insist, however if I get whiff of something unpleasant I will suggest an assisted shower or politely point out that the journey to me has undone all their good work.
If we have progressed too far and as Emily says having a shower in situ doesn?t mean they remember to pull back the foreskin and use soap for their crack, I resort to the using too much lube and having to wipe off with baby wipes trick (thank you Anika). Baby wipe residue is maybe not the pleasantest taste, but it beats cock-cheese and turd-crumbs.

Some clients may have showered before but by the time they get to me they have either been sat on public transport or sat in their cars for a while and I am sorry but groins sweat alot as they tend to have at least two layers of clothing over them...URGGHHH

Some may think me disgusting, but fresh groin sweat can actually be quiet a turn on, it?s the stale stuff I can?t stomach.
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Re: 'Career' over before it's really started?
« Reply #11 on: 16 July 2010, 11:58:58 pm »
Baby wipe residue is maybe not the pleasantest taste, but it beats cock-cheese and turd-crumbs.

Some may think me disgusting, but fresh groin sweat can actually be quiet a turn on, it?s the stale stuff I can?t stomach.

LOL....ewwww, I think you just ruined my taste for cheese and crumbs LOL.

But I agree, Im weird too. I like to suck a guys balls and cock when its a bit sweaty (like, after a night of dancing in a hot, sweaty bar...or after the gym...yummy). And if the guy is EXTRA hot, I may pull back his foreskin and clean it with my tounge  :P  but thats a very-rare occasion...

Danielle, Im just giving you a hard time...I can totally understand your need to give clients a shower beforehand.

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« Reply #12 on: 17 July 2010, 01:00:45 am »
I resort to the using too much lube and having to wipe off with baby wipes trick (thank you Anika).

I don't think you got that from me, but I'll be remembering it!

I don't insist on clients showering when they turn up (if they don't believe they need it they probably won't do any good in there anyway), but I strongly encourage them. If it's humid outside I say "you must need a shower", otherwise I ask if they need to wash and they usually ask if I think they do, so then I can establish whether they washed at home 10 minutes ago and arrived without rushing, or whether they were under the impression that showering that morning was good enough. It works well for incalls, but for outcalls it's still good to have some tricks.

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« Reply #13 on: 17 July 2010, 01:04:11 am »
It's a shame you just couldn't get away with printing out instructions and sticking them prominently in the bathroom, though. :(

IMPORTANT PRE-SEX SHOWERING INSTRUCTIONS FOR MEN

You must clean every part of your body with soap. Pay special attention to:
Your armpits;
Your entire inner thigh-crotch region;
Your bumcrack. Wash this even if you don't like bum play. If you do like bum play, wash your bum;
Your penis. Make sure you pull back your foreskin completely, cover the area with soap and wash the soap off.

Thank you. Please enjoy your stay.
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« Reply #14 on: 17 July 2010, 01:40:56 am »
If you do like bum play, wash your bum;

LOL, good one. I keep a pack of 4 of these under my bathroom sink, and in fact...I actually gave instructions to a guy on how to use one (I think he was too embarrassed to come see me again after that LOL)...OK, this is off topic but in America bum means someone living on the streets. Ass and butt means...what you sit on. How did they get mixed up?

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