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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: PureDeebauchery on 26 April 2024, 12:54:36 pm
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:'( bad news ladies WA are deleting sex workers accounts. its a detrimental subject for us as AW is changing their site and we are expected to add our WhatsApp numbers to the new system.
any thoughts and im just making u aware.
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What is the source of this, and also the source of the claim that Adultwork will force advertisers to use WhatsApp?
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Attention whores.com xx
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Nobody can read the blog post above without subscribing. So your account has not been deleted, and nor has that of somebody you know?
Where have AW said we are going to have to use Whatsapp on their site?
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I don't know if this is the same as the OP's article but there was something on mashable recently (you don't need to register to read it) : https:// mashable.com/article/is-whatsapp-banning-sex-worker-accounts
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I can't see any articles nor announcements when I've searched but only had a quick glance.
Don't know how/why AW would even want to do that. Can understand why whatsapp might want to make things difficult.
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Thanks folks. I've never used Whatsapp and I've no plans to start, but I'd find it odd that AW would be insisting on a form of communication owned by a US company, much less restricting us in something that could lose them revenue.
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I don't really care too much about WA. I only have it to send punters content from bookings.
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Yay no more unsolicited dick pics then!
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I dont use what's app , maybe only where I dont have O2, but how What's app know who is SW? They spy us?
Also AW want to use What's app , now?
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Also AW want to use What's app , now?
I wouldn't worry AC; people have asked three times now and nobody has even attempted to back this up. I suspect it's an understanding malfunction somewhere.
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how will they know who is a sex worker
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If you send messages that annoy a client and he blocks you and reports you, your account will be banned if any of the messages are promoting sex or selling sex. WhatsApp reviews the last five messages that you sent and bans and blocks you if they determine you are in contravention of their policies.
It is in their terms and conditions.
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It happened to me a few weeks ago. My 'working' WhatsApp account got blocked. However, they gave me a chance to appeal, and I did that. I wrote that I wasn't doing anything illegal. And within about 6 hours they released my account.
I think that happens because some guys, for example after being refused, block us, and they also tick 'spam'. This way the account can get blocked.
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This only happens when you have your WhatsApp account when you have a business account.
But if you don't have a business account, absolutely nothing will happen to you.
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No, I have a normal account, not business.
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my watts app ac is blocked today.
it is not a business account
I only use it to reply to people who contact me.
And I generally direct them to my website.
I don't send details or photos
I clicked on appeal which didn't give me any info about why it is blocked and did not give me chance to say anything.... I guess it is handled by robots.
It says my old conversations are on my phone, but I wouldn't know how to find them, so I guess I lost those numbers. Also - I wonder if people will still be able to send messages by wattsapp and then think I am ignoring them? Or will they know my wattsapp doesn't exist?
I don't think it is a great loss. Most people who contacted me by wattsapp were time wasters - but not all.
And I was not a member of any watts app group - so I don't know how they identified my account
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I just found this article
https://mashable.com/article/is-whatsapp-banning-sex-worker-accounts
Many sex workers are confused by the WhatsApp bans because of the app's encryption. "I don't understand how WhatsApp can even see that we're sex workers if they're not able to see our messages," Alice tells me.
WhatsApp describes the app as end-to-end encrypted, adding in their help centre that "end-to-end encryption ensures only you and the person you're communicating with can read or listen to what is sent, and nobody in between, not even WhatsApp."
However, a spokesperson for Meta told Mashable that group chat titles and display names aren't encrypted, and that these are sometimes used to flag illegal activity with their moderation team. In addition, a white paper from WhatsApp on how end-to-end encryption works also specifies that encryption works by locking messages away with "keys" WhatsApp themselves don't have access to, unless you're on a business account. Those ones, they can access.
I wasn't in a group
did not have a business account
did not have a sexy sex worker name show up as my name.
the only way to identify my number is if the scrapped it from one of the few websites that have my number displayed (not I do not display mu number on AW)
or if some reported me - but who and why would any - I have no enemies - I am very low key.
I think the problem is that the telephone number I am using is a business number because it appears on business websites and WhatsApp is meant for "personal use" among friends and family.
And then of course we aren't allowed to use WhatsApp Business.
But our customers don't understand any of this.
And we should be able to use our business numbers for personal things on WhatsApp - just like every other person who has a company phone.
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one last thing
I think the only place that mentions WhatsApp - for me is Adult See.
In the profile, there is a checkbox, so I have just unchecked it:
Accept WhatsApp messages/calls?
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Most of the ad platforms that I am on ask if you accept WhatsApp messages; I can't see how that impacts a blocking of our account, unless WhatsApp can in fact read messages and determine messages that include prices and services as running a business?
I do use WhatsApp and I would miss it if it disappeared from my phone as it is quite handy for messaging. I get real clients from it and not just dick pics.
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Hello, sorry to hear you experienced the same problem as me.
If you read my messages above, I explained there why they are doing it - when people want to block you, they might have the 'spam' icon ticked, so WhatsApp doesn't know you are a sex worker.
I appealed and had my WhatsApp back within hours. When you press 'appeal' there's space to write something. Just have a look at my earlier messages.
Hope you get it back.
I just found this article
https://mashable.com/article/is-whatsapp-banning-sex-worker-accounts
I wasn't in a group
did not have a business account
did not have a sexy sex worker name show up as my name.
the only way to identify my number is if the scrapped it from one of the few websites that have my number displayed (not I do not display mu number on AW)
or if some reported me - but who and why would any - I have no enemies - I am very low key.
I think the problem is that the telephone number I am using is a business number because it appears on business websites and WhatsApp is meant for "personal use" among friends and family.
And then of course we aren't allowed to use WhatsApp Business.
But our customers don't understand any of this.
And we should be able to use our business numbers for personal things on WhatsApp - just like every other person who has a company phone.
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I have gotten my WhatsApp account Blocked/Deleted this week
I had taken out a few new adverts and was copy/pasting the same message to anyone who replied via WhatsApp. I gave some very basic details and a web site link. No photos, no explicit language etc.
I first got a message saying that my account broke the rules and could no longer be used. I thought it may have been revenge from a punter or some bot misunderstanding so in the box where you could appeal I said I was doing nothing illegal and couldn't understand why this was happening. Less than 24 hours later there was a message saying my account was now deleted. No reason given except to say I broke their rules and regs
The thing that really pisses me off is that they actually haven't deleted the account. Be aware, what they've done is deactivated the account. The difference is subtle but important. I used my private phone and was able to send a message to my work phone WhatsApp account. The work WhatsApp phone still had my profile photo. The only clue something was wrong was the message only had one tick meaning it wasn't delivered. I bet most of the potential new clients who have tried to WhatsApp me just think I'm ignoring them.