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amy

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« Reply #90 on: 12 October 2023, 06:07:09 pm »
No, they've had that for years. I remember when we all had to tick the box.to say we would keep all images that could be viewed as adult only for private galleries, and nothing has changed there.

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« Reply #91 on: 12 October 2023, 06:36:54 pm »
No, they've had that for years. I remember when we all had to tick the box.to say we would keep all images that could be viewed as adult only for private galleries, and nothing has changed there.

They told me a while back they stopped the restrictions on this, at the time I had received warnings for photos that did not show anything not even a nipple I all photos had my genitals covered with lingerie. For several years I would test out my photos in PG first, if marked non-nude I'd dare to post in public.

A year or two later during a live help chat I mentioned this, the advisor told me they no longer applied the rule it wasn't being used. I started posting photos directly into public without the PG NN test. Bear in mind I never had any showing anything anyway.

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« Reply #92 on: 12 October 2023, 06:53:21 pm »
Today I received this email from the AW, it seems they have started moderating the aw profiles for 0nline Safety  Bill...

Note: This message emailed to you on 12/10/2023 at 15:23.

Hello......

Whilst checking your profile pictures we noticed that one or more of your recent uploads do not meet the requirements for 'Adult Content Certification'.

You previously stated that all of your free-to-view pictures were not unsuitable for minors and that any future uploads to these areas would also conform to the general principle of no nudity.

With Adult Content Certification turned on, your free-to-view pictures are shown to members that have not age verified, as is. As you are now uploading content that is for 'adults only', we have turned off the Adult Content Certification setting from your profile.

Please do not turn it back on without removing all inappropriate imagery from your profile and elsewhere. Members that repeatedly upload inappropriate content to a profile with Adult Content Certification turned on will leave us little option but to suspend their membership.

Thanks and regards

The AdultWork.com Team

Just turn it off, it's not about online safety bill

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« Reply #93 on: 12 October 2023, 09:49:23 pm »
I think that might mean that only members will see your profile

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« Reply #94 on: 09 December 2023, 10:39:42 am »
I saw "Consultation: Guidance for service providers publishing
pornographic content"
Start: 05 December 2023 Status: Open  End: 05 March 2024" by Ofcom,
with links of documents. 

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Re: Online Safety Bill (uk)
« Reply #95 on: 09 December 2023, 01:15:04 pm »
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The online safety bill is starting come into play more and more and will start affecting us. Especially if some of the big sites like AW don’t make any changes.

My recommendation for now is to get a website built for yourself, no nudity (pictures in lingerie is fine). And just at least have a holding page up for people to visit should things become hard. It shouldn’t cost you anymore than £10 a month to have up. If anyone needs any help with it please let me know.

I’m reading more and more about it and how we can keep our business up and running and affect us in the smallest way possible.


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« Reply #96 on: 09 December 2023, 01:48:29 pm »
Just to add it’s now all over the news that, websites are going to have to start ID checking visitors if they have 18+ content. A lot of visitors of adult work aren’t going to want to give their ID.
I’m looking into this more and potential ways clients can bypass this but for now I’d recommend getting your own website as a back up.

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« Reply #97 on: 09 December 2023, 01:49:36 pm »
If anyone needs any help with it please let me know.

And the way to do this is by posting on the board so that everyone can contribute; as per the forum rules we don't want individuals styling themselves as experts when a broad range of views and experiences is more helpful :)

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« Reply #98 on: 09 December 2023, 03:37:31 pm »
How though, can websites be unavailable to viewers unless a viewer contacts the website to offer up ID to show they are an adult? Is this what the OSB is suggesting?

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« Reply #99 on: 09 December 2023, 06:06:50 pm »
“The list of measures for proving someone is over 18 include: uploading a photo-ID document; contacting your mobile network provider to allow your phone to access adult content; checking age via credit card details; and using “digital identity wallets” that store evidence of a person’s age.”

“Under the proposed guidelines, if technology platforms adopt the measures they will be deemed to be in compliance with the act. Companies that fail to comply face fines of up to £18m or 10% of their global annual revenue.”

The sites content now will hide behind a wall of “ID verification” if you’ve verified once it will remember you so you don’t have to do it everytime, unless you likely access it again off a different IP address if you don’t have an account.
But then the easiest way would be by having an account and uploading ID.

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« Reply #100 on: 09 December 2023, 10:26:13 pm »
“The list of measures for proving someone is over 18 include: uploading a photo-ID document; contacting your mobile network provider to allow your phone to access adult content; checking age via credit card details; and using “digital identity wallets” that store evidence of a person’s age.”

“Under the proposed guidelines, if technology platforms adopt the measures they will be deemed to be in compliance with the act. Companies that fail to comply face fines of up to £18m or 10% of their global annual revenue.”

The sites content now will hide behind a wall of “ID verification” if you’ve verified once it will remember you so you don’t have to do it everytime, unless you likely access it again off a different IP address if you don’t have an account.
But then the easiest way would be by having an account and uploading ID.

I just don't see how any website showing explicit photos will survive this? I'm wondering if AW etc will get around it by making sure there is no porn and no references to sexual services and go back to a companionship profiling format. I just don't know. But I think this will take a couple of years to finalise.

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« Reply #101 on: 10 December 2023, 04:17:02 pm »
I'm wondering if AW etc will get around it by making sure there is no porn and no references to sexual services and go back to a companionship profiling format.

The advertising of prostitution remains legal and nothing to do with this; the Bill is specifically related to pornography being accessed by minors. I don't have porn pictures on any of my ads and I've been a prostitute for over twenty years.

AW tried to stop adult only images being displayed on public parts of the site a few years ago (when we were all supposed to tick a box saying we would put them behind the PG paywall) but didn't bother enforcing it, or do anything to prevent underage people registering on the site. Now they'll have to, as will the porn sites and presumably the webcam ones.

As for the verification, I've had to take my mobile phone into the shop or enter credit card details into it to get an Over 18 block lifted more times than I care to remember, so that's nothing new. Anybody who wants to get precious about doing so may have forgotten that you also need it lifting to use gambling/betting sites :)

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« Reply #102 on: 10 December 2023, 06:35:34 pm »
Hi Amy. Do you think anyone will be able to access an escort advertising site like AW, so long as there are no porn photos? So unverified people will still be able to see sexual services being offered - just no porn shots? Or I wonder if sites like AW will just be a blank screen unless people verify to view it, full stop. Stopping kids accessing porn is good and long overdue but I'm confused about how this will pan out in the future for places like AW.

I can't remember age verifying my AW phone but I guess I must have.

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« Reply #103 on: 10 December 2023, 06:51:33 pm »
Hi Amy. Do you think anyone will be able to access an escort advertising site like AW, so long as there are no porn photos? So unverified people will still be able to see sexual services being offered - just no porn shots?

I can't imagine why it wouldn't; it's strictly the images they're interested in. I'd guess they'll do something like blur all the images for anybody who isn't logged in regardless of their content (which is where Rosie's suggestion of a website comes in if you don't have one, and then you can link to it for those who don't want to register). This is a porn thing, not a prossie thing.

Don't forget that there are countries all over the world where actual prostitution and/or punting are illegal and every single one of them still has both going on. These stupid laws exist only to make the tossers in charge look like they're doing something useful, and the only effect they have on anything is making everyone less safe and everything more time consuming and annoying for all of us.

If they were really that bothered they'd find ways to compel parents to supervise their bloody kids properly and let the grown ups get on with it.

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« Reply #104 on: 10 December 2023, 09:55:24 pm »
I believe when it comes to prostitution sites this bill and the new internet laws now make the website owners responsible for any explotation, trafficking or minors (which was not the case before). For years Backpage owners were taken to court and never charged because the laws were designed for website owner to not be liable of what people posted, the minute the SESTA/FOSTA laws were signed by Trump the BP owners got arrested and charged with aiding trafficking (or something in those lines). That's the reason why AW verifiy us holding our passports and have us go through all the hoops. This measure is being adopted now by most escort sites, because if someone is being exploited/trafficked AW owners can go to jail thanks to the new bill. I believe this is the reason why we have so few decent platforms to advertise nowadays, because it's a much more risky business for owners (legally speaking).I agree that parents should supervise their bloody kids properly and let the grown ups get on with it, but the issue is more complex, individuals have been known to be exploited on certain websites and the government wants these platforms to properly supervise their content to make sure it doesn't happen. As long as women are freely advertising by their own will and giving the proper paperwork to demonstrate this is the case I don't think there will be any changes, most likely sites will hide explicit nudes or hide them in private galleries etc... Maybe a slight nuisance for some but nothing really earth shaking...
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