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jasmines world

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #195 on: 20 March 2019, 07:12:14 pm »
Hi UK domme

Things have moved on since December and the govenment have announced after the results of a survey that anyone using onine porn from April 1st 2019 will need to be age verified by credit card or have a "porn pass" obtained from selected shops.  There is uproar with the public as many feel they should not have to provide this information like this and it is open to abuse by hackers if you care to read the very informative report by the open rights group  it outlays their concerns the link is as followshttps://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2018/the-government-is-acting-negligently-on-privacy-and-porn-av

I urge you all to write as Ive said in previous messages this may not affect you now as Aw users but utimately it is disgusting that our clients have to go to these lengths when there are enough rules inplace to protect underage people from wathcing  there are many , many parental controls . Im sure this is just the start and ulitmately we may follow like the USA a total online porn ban there are no USA webcam girls now ! please let your voice be heard it takes minutes to write .

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #196 on: 20 March 2019, 07:14:11 pm »
...can anyone give me any advvdvon what to write in my email with regards to the above post...

With some input from the earlier post from Jasmine's World, I have just emailed my local MP with the following (and I will share any response that I may get):

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I write in protest of the proposed UK-wide age-block on adult websites due to come into force on 1-4-19.

I understand that the point of the above measure is to protect children from pornographic material online.  To me, however, the answer to protecting children from such material is simple: responsible and authoritative parenting.  The numerous and long-available forms of porn-blocking software are amongst the tools to which parents have recourse in order to shield their children from adult material online.  According to my line of reasoning, then, the accessing of adult content online by individuals under 18 years of age is the fault of their parents.  Irresponsible parents alone, then, are the parties who should be targeted by any new laws designed to protect the under 18s from online pornography, as far as I am concerned.  As you can see, this precludes the idea or practice of an age-block affecting every single internet-user, the majority of whom being over 18 years of age.

Having to surrender one's privacy, such as is required by the proposed online age-verification process, in order to engage with a FULLY LEGAL activity - like visiting websites offering either legal pornographic material or escort adverts (or both) - I personally consider, furthermore, an obvious and unjustified infringement of freedom and autonomy.  The intrusive and controlling "nanny state", with its ongoing surveillance of the behaviour of adult individuals - as if they were children requiring "minding" - has no place in any part of the UK, in my opinion.  In ignoring the role of parents in the monitoring of their children's internet-use, the clamouring of certain government ministers and child-protection organisations of the apparent harm caused to children by online porn does nothing more, to my mind, than to demonstrate the flawed, disingenuous, and ignorant thinking of these groups as well as their obvious anti-freedom stance (as I see it).

Given the arguments which I have just presented to you, Mr Lammy, I urge you to lobby against the proposed UK-wide age-block on adult websites.

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There you go.
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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #197 on: 20 March 2019, 09:23:34 pm »
So to clarify, clients will be able to browse aw without verifying their age but can’t buy PG or watch videos?

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #198 on: 20 March 2019, 10:26:25 pm »
It was horrible that Adultwork dumped US girls from webcamming on the site, a total over reaction to the FOSTA SESTA laws, all the big sites like myfreecams, streammate still allow them on there with no issues.

Unfortunately age verification has been on the cards for years now, most people wont remember ATVOD who were closing porn sites down a few years back forcing most UK based porn sites offshore to get round the rules, that was just the start.  Until a few months ago I was worried that my own site would be affected as the definition of a site that would need to age verify was very ambiguous.

I still believe though, reading Adultworks page on age verification, that people can still view our profiles without verifying  if we have certified our pictures are suitable, as Paris put below.  They have a page on it, that is still up so I believe it is current.

Unfortunately I can see censorship just getting worse, it is a good idea to contact our Mp's and support the Open Rights Group with their work.  I would hate for escort/dominatrix sites to be next on their list.

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #199 on: 21 March 2019, 12:15:48 am »
I still believe though, reading Adultworks page on age verification, that people can still view our profiles without verifying  if we have certified our pictures are suitable

People can view our profiles regardless of this. I'm not logged into AW nor have I 'certified' anything, and I've just looked at mine.

Can we maybe take the detailed AW stuff over to that board now and not further derail the general discussion here? This

Unfortunately I can see censorship just getting worse, it is a good idea to contact our Mp's and support the Open Rights Group with their work.  I would hate for escort/dominatrix sites to be next on their list.

can hopefully get it back on track :)
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jasmines world

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #200 on: 21 March 2019, 07:40:50 am »
Hi

I think ive been misunderstood this law comes into effect on April 1st. Yes anyone can view now antything anywhere;  but from April 1st if this law passes No one without a porn pass or credit card will be able to view ANY porn online regardless of the site.

This is not about AW and how AW do thing it is about the govenment stopping All porn view without a pass or credit card/passport personal id being handed over.
Thanks.

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #201 on: 21 March 2019, 08:02:25 am »
This is not about AW and how AW do thing it is about the govenment stopping All porn view without a pass or credit card/passport personal id being handed over.
Thanks.

I know that, which is why I posted above to get the thread back on track. Maybe you could explain what your stake in the whole thing is, since it's obviously a singularly important topic to you?
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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #202 on: 21 March 2019, 10:49:29 am »
Hi

I think ive been misunderstood this law comes into effect on April 1st. Yes anyone can view now antything anywhere;  but from April 1st if this law passes No one without a porn pass or credit card will be able to view ANY porn online regardless of the site.

This is not about AW and how AW do thing it is about the govenment stopping All porn view without a pass or credit card/passport personal id being handed over.
Thanks.

According to an item on BBC Radio last week this law is being delayed, it is not coming into effect 1st April 2019.

jasmines world

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #203 on: 21 March 2019, 11:15:01 am »
Hi Amy and ladies

I will tell you what my personal stake is im incensed and  outraged that this attack on the porn industry continues for me as a cam girl of many , many years I  fear for my future and my wages ! Ive been pushed so much I have to stand up for us!  And im a quiet lady who keeps herself to herself but when push comes to shove !
I have cam friends in the USA that are now broke as they have been forced off line off the most popular site not only for that but escoritng services also .
 
Many women dont like their man watching porn how are they to get around this id , i feel they  could be open to hackers and it upsets me that my clients have to risk this !!  I see this as just the start I used to view tumblr for ideas for photo shoots  not copying ideas. I cannot do that now anything erotic or nude is barred !.  How can I stand by and do nothing ? Its a stand for democracy for an invasion of privacy im only one voice here but im on no other fourms and didnt know where else to put it.

Why havent I a voice why does this govenment keep pushing the nanny state when there are laws in place already so they can snoop on me and my clients ! and i have no idea  as yet if they will be charged for this porn pass but its a discrace that they have to do this .
 
I hope that answers your question.




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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #204 on: 21 March 2019, 05:50:22 pm »
I will tell you what my personal stake is im incensed and  outraged that this attack on the porn industry continues for me as a cam girl of many , many years I  fear for my future and my wages ! Ive been pushed so much I have to stand up for us!  And im a quiet lady who keeps herself to herself but when push comes to shove !
I have cam friends in the USA that are now broke as they have been forced off line off the most popular site not only for that but escoritng services also .

Yes, that's what I meant - I was wondering why this seems to be the only thread on the entire forum you have any interest in contributing to despite the many others discussing decriminalisation, the Nordic model, sex worker rights and so on, and obviously all the general topics on the other boards. We and our customers have been under attack for a very long time and continue to be, so I suppose we're used to it.
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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #205 on: 26 March 2019, 04:54:59 pm »
Sorry if this has already been asked but will people still be able to use adult work to hire escorts after April 1st? And will it affect me if I am already verified. The whole thing is pretty confusing to me and I am worried about how it may affect my escort work.

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #206 on: 27 March 2019, 08:34:10 am »
Sorry if this has already been asked but will people still be able to use adult work to hire escorts after April 1st? And will it affect me if I am already verified. The whole thing is pretty confusing to me and I am worried about how it may affect my escort work.

Yes they will, and also all the many other advertising sites. They may have to jump through some hoops to see the pictures (which I think they're already doing) but the site is not being taken down, or at least not because of this.

As per these posts:
This is not about AW and how AW do thing it is about the govenment stopping All porn view without a pass or credit card/passport personal id being handed over.
Can we maybe take the detailed AW stuff over to that board now and not further derail the general discussion here?

Please keep this thread on topic. The universe doesn't revolve around AW, and we have plenty of space to discuss it elsewhere :).
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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #207 on: 28 March 2019, 08:52:21 pm »
So excuse me if I didn’t get the memo ...but twice this week Iv herd mentions of a new rule not allowing acces to AW /other over 18 sites unless age verified.
Which I can actually agree is a brilliant idea in one way but also I’m deeply concerned as I only advertise on AW ... I can imagine a lot of guys wanting to give details etc.

Does any one else know of this ?

With thanks , stay safe xxx

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #208 on: 28 March 2019, 08:56:35 pm »
Does any one else know of this ?

14 pages of thread above :)

As per my last post, this is not an AW specific thread, so if anybody just wants to discuss features and functions of the one site please start a thread in the appropriate section.
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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #209 on: 29 March 2019, 07:12:51 am »
I think it may cut down on timewaster traffic you never know.