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ParisB

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #75 on: 06 July 2018, 06:01:22 pm »
Thanks for replying and explaining the France thing Paris (now there is a play on words if ever there was one!), I think I just about understand it the way you have set it out. It doesseem to me  though that to completely close down each and every one of the sites we and punters need/use would be a mammoth task and one not likely to happen in the near future.

Trade mags and newspaper box ads were fantastic but once they were all banned I think we just got complacent that the internet was here to stay forever as far as our advertising goes.  Shaky business now but a very long way off being closed down rendering us biting our nails in fear.  That is my view anyway.
 You can still advertise in newspaper well you can where I live
Service providers just entering this business and wanting to work for a few years may have to face some difficulties one day but to be honest I will probably be retired by then so it will not affect me.

lola99

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #76 on: 06 July 2018, 06:05:41 pm »
Well.... prostitution adverts are banned in France (thanks Sarkozy), so how do French WG's operate? As far as i know the trade is still operating strong in france.

Any french ladies in the forum?

Forget France its  dead and by the way vivastreet ceased operating in France last week?just 6 annonce are getting away with it and they are outrageously expensive and nowhere near as good as AW in terms of clients volume. You may or may not cover your ads fees that’s how hard it is.
New phenomenon in Fr is guys go to la jonquera in the Spanish French borders for cheap sex something like 50 euros per hour and I heard you pay on top a fee to the hosting clubs. It’s just awful!   :FF
Of course there’s a market for Monaco and festival de Cannes where there’s serious money to be had but I’ve not sussed it and if someone does know please share..


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ParisB

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #77 on: 06 July 2018, 06:30:05 pm »

Forget France its  dead and by the way vivastreet ceased operating in France last week?just 6 annonce are getting away with it and they are outrageously expensive and nowhere near as good as AW in terms of clients volume. You may or may not cover your ads fees that’s how hard it is.
New phenomenon in Fr is guys go to la jonquera in the Spanish French borders for cheap sex something like 50 euros per hour and I heard you pay on top a fee to the hosting clubs. It’s just awful!   :FF
Of course there’s a market for Monaco and festival de Cannes where there’s serious money to be had but I’ve not sussed it and if someone does know please share..
Hi Are you able to answer these questions

Wasn't it illegal Nordic Model in France since 2016  if so how did that affect the business

Also is viva st gone in terms of advertising or you can't see it without a VPN

How come they didn't go after AW or is AW not as big as a source of advertising as Viva St

What about 6announce how come they are still in place what's different about them that they are able to stay up










 










ParisB

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #78 on: 06 July 2018, 06:54:42 pm »
I've just checked Viva St France
Yes all the Escort adds  and dating adds have gone

But the massage 😂Adds are still there just quite vanilla ( well according to my google transalate )
So it might go this way should they ban Escort advertising

lola99

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #79 on: 06 July 2018, 07:19:13 pm »
Yes Paris, you’re right all you can do now is place a legit sounding massage advert under section “service & aide a la personne” but I cant get my head around the fact there are only 2 pages in the whole of France and they are all Asian Thai mainly so your theory about VPN sounds the more plausible explanation.
This VNP thing does is allow you to place adverts from abroad?

AW never made it big in France, the agency culture has always been bigger and stronger than AW.
French punters have an unhealthy fascination with “ la Madame proxenete” otherwise known as pimps -everything we WGs loathe with passion.

And lastly, I don’t have a clue why 6 annonce is getting away with it. Guess it’s just a matter of time..
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ParisB

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« Reply #80 on: 06 July 2018, 07:33:41 pm »
It's only just happened in France
Give it a few weeks and those pages will be full of escorts I mean massages 😂
Google  Dubai escort where they will literally cut your head of for having Sex outside of marriage there are pages of escorts site
If your In Dubai you can't access these sites unless you have a VPN
If you have one before you arrive you can

ParisB

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #81 on: 06 July 2018, 07:41:33 pm »
I've just checked Viva St France
Yes all the Escort adds  and dating adds have gone

But the massage 😂Adds are still there just quite vanilla ( well according to my google transalate )
So it might go this way should they ban Escort advertising

Are you in France ATM
If you google escorts in France what do you see
If I google it as I'm in the uk I get loads of sites

But you don't get Viva St at all so it's not coming up In the search when I use those words

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #82 on: 06 July 2018, 07:43:30 pm »
France is a very promiscuous culture, quite a free and liberated society when it comes to sex. the whole country is packed with swing clubs everywhere (it's a common thing for couples to do on the weekends), and the word "monogamy" is unknown when it comes to marriage. Men have their mistresses, married women have their rendez vouz and it's totally fine. Remember Francoise Miterrand the ex president? He was a married man and was elected president despite having children with his mistress and being a public thing. Something that would have never happened in the US (or the UK) nobody bat an eyelid in France.

My point is: France has always been a dead place for sex workers (I've heard this from women who've worked there in the 80's and 90's) , it's been bad for business decades before prostitution websites were banned. And that's because everybody is fucking their neighbour and their auntie. It's a very free and liberated culture so there's little need to pay for sex.
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lola99

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #83 on: 06 July 2018, 08:27:20 pm »
Paris, Yes I can see , I’m in U.K. Adverts are there but remember it’s based on a Swedish model criminalising punters so clients are more and more afraid and shy when it comes to making contact , I’ve heard of instances whereby the adverts are a bait placed by you know who ..and it entails hefty fines and may be criminal records .. Not sure how true or how aggressive they are at implementing this anti prostitution policy though  :-\
Think of Ireland and and Sweden, your business can never thrive no matter how savvy,beautiful or popular you are if you’re operating underground at the end of the day it’s illegal and damn right dangerous.
How can I work safely in FR if I can’t even report incidents without repercussions ?

Anna, Fr society is changing, it has developed a taste for gossip news and scandal just like everywhere really. Press these days will slate a president if he has a mistress, remember what happen to Hollande when he did the dirty on Valerie trierwiler? It was a huge scandal and a national outcry that has shot down his credibility and ultimately led to his demise..
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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #84 on: 06 July 2018, 08:33:17 pm »
it has developed a taste for gossip news and scandal just like everywhere really.

Well nearly everywhere; we don't want it here and it's wandering off a bit. Let's get back on track, please :).
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lola99

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #85 on: 06 July 2018, 08:39:33 pm »
Sorry Amy, got carried away!

ParisB

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #86 on: 07 July 2018, 03:16:03 pm »
This is the update of the Bristol University Home Office Survey
We have till the 16th July to get our views across so please every one f you want to stay an independent Sex Worker and not be subject to Sesta /Fosta style laws in the uk please fill in this survey


http://www.bristol.ac.uk/sps/research/projects/current/prostitution-and-sex-work-nature-and-prevalence-in-england-and-wales/

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #87 on: 07 July 2018, 04:42:13 pm »
I notice this is specific to England and Wales, and am wondering what the stance is in relation to (potential) respondents and / or implications for those in Scotland and Northern Ireland? Does this automatically fall within the remit of being a devolved matter as opposed to being UK wide (the latter of which would seem more likely given we're talking about the internet)?
Curious why this has been limited in this way.
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ParisB

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #88 on: 07 July 2018, 05:18:47 pm »
I notice this is specific to England and Wales, and am wondering what the stance is in relation to (potential) respondents and / or implications for those in Scotland and Northern Ireland? Does this automatically fall within the remit of being a devolved matter as opposed to being UK wide (the latter of which would seem more likely given we're talking about the internet)?
Curious why this has been limited in this way.

I am fairly certain Northern Ireland has the Nordic Model

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Re: Government trying to outlaw prostitution sites
« Reply #89 on: 08 July 2018, 11:12:18 am »
Just catching up on this  >:( >:( >:(

'Sarah Champion, MP for Rotherham' - is it the same Rotherham where sexual exploitation of young girls/ children by certain gangs took place on a mass scale? And nothing was done about it?
And when an independent journalist reports on pedophile gang trials when press doesn't have the guts to do this, he gets thrown to jail.
THIS is sexual exploitation. This is violence and nobody talks about it.
Yea. So much easier to go on a moral crusade against 'whores', isn't it?

I will do this Bristol Uni survey for sure.

Recently there was a debate on EU's Article 13 (basically banning memes etc in the name of copyrights but in fact limiting freedom of speech/ expression); I emailed MEPs, do you know who was the only person that replied?
Gerard Batten of UKiP.
My point is - it's worth to build an alliance with people based on how much they care about freedom instead of paying attention to their political affiliation.

Adding to this - as Kay mentioned earlier, if you don't have a website already, get one and start building your newsletter/ mailing list.