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And so it begins...

On the 23rd of May Rhoda Grant MSP made the first step towards launching a bill for the criminalisation of the purchase of sex in Scotland. It's not a bill, yet, but a request to the Justice Committee to let her get away with not doing a proper consultation of her own. You can read her Statement of Reasons here:

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/S4_MembersBills/20120523_SofReasons_Criminalisation_of_Purchase_of_Sex.pdf

She states that her bill doesn't need to go out for consultation due to the fact that a majority of respondents supported Trish Godman's bill at her (deeply flawed, biased and unprofessional) consultation. The Justice Committee will need to decide whether that is the case; they meet next on the 29th of May and then on the 19th of June, before parliament goes into recess on the 30th.

If you would like to keep up-to-date with the development of the bill and our response to it, please visit our forum on the SCOT-PEP website (www.scot-pep.org.uk), go to the Criminalisation Bill (Scottish Parliament) thread, read the post titled 'And so it begins...' and leave a comment. Any comment. You'll then be automatically notified of any new posts on that subject.

We're also, on a totally related note, actively looking for new members for our Campaigning Group; please see our post in the Sex Work Projects thread for more information.
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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #1 on: 26 May 2012, 01:26:22 pm »
As I understand it, in order for this proposal to get any further, she needs to get 18 MSPs from at least half the parties in the Parliament to agree that it should.

Do the two independents count as two parties? If so, that would make four parties, but if they don't, that's three. She's Labour and there are enough SNP MSPs for there to be at least one who would support it. Are the Scottish Conservatives, LibDems and Greens going to listen to reason on this one?
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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #2 on: 26 May 2012, 01:42:33 pm »
The short answer is, we don't know yet. We have some friendly faces in Holyrood who are looking into it for us.

If you don't mind, I'm going to post your questions on our own forums, and I'll be posting the answers there when we get them. Come, comment, and follow.
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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #3 on: 26 May 2012, 02:39:36 pm »
I just want to add that to those of you in England and Wales who think this is no concern of thiers - if you ever tour in Scotland it will affect you if the law changes.

In any case I would like to believe that there is enough solidarity amongst us WGs that we would all care enough to find out more about what would be a step backwards for us in many ways.

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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #4 on: 26 May 2012, 05:07:16 pm »
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« Last Edit: 13 May 2015, 02:57:18 pm by LouLou37 »
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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #5 on: 26 May 2012, 05:24:31 pm »
Yes her conclusion is that it would be best to concentrate on that at this time

I think a big concern is that, if this passes, then it will be but a stepping stone by which the other proposals for new offences (from Trish Godman) would be put forward at a later date - these are:

Engaging in a paid-for sexual activity;
Advertising paid-for sexual activities; and
Facilitating a paid-for sexual activity


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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #6 on: 26 May 2012, 06:43:33 pm »
On the 23rd of May Rhoda Grant MSP made the first step towards launching a bill for the criminalisation of the purchase of sex in Scotland.
Write to her directly. It may make a positive impact.
Rhoda Grant     
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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #7 on: 26 May 2012, 08:39:29 pm »
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« Last Edit: 13 May 2015, 02:57:08 pm by LouLou37 »
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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #8 on: 26 May 2012, 09:00:15 pm »
You're goram right!
Please see my new thread in this sub-forum.


Thinks: How do they handle these 'inconveniences' in Columbia?
« Last Edit: 26 May 2012, 09:07:27 pm by JodieTs »

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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #9 on: 12 June 2012, 11:06:26 am »
This proposal is going before the Justice Committee on June 19th.

Let's hope common sense prevails or else we have one hell of a fight on our hands.
I'll keep you posted as and when I hear any news.

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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #10 on: 19 June 2012, 01:02:17 pm »
Hi girls,
I have read this news this morning.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-18498858

Why not legalize it instead to give us so many problems?

« Last Edit: 19 June 2012, 01:08:02 pm by Blondpearl »

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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #11 on: 19 June 2012, 01:25:49 pm »
Stupid ignorant b****  :FF :FF (sorry in vile mood anyway)

I'm sure she's spent LOTS of time with all these women who are 'victims' of prostitution. 

And with all the women who do it of their own free will, for economic reasons and god forbid, those of us that actually enjoy it!

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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #12 on: 19 June 2012, 02:07:38 pm »
not impressed at all reading that article ,were not all victims and not all our clients are abusers .

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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #13 on: 19 June 2012, 02:19:43 pm »
Why not legalize it instead to give us so many problems?

Because 'it' isn't illegal, at least not yet.

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Re: Criminalisation of the Purchase of Sex Bill in Scotland
« Reply #14 on: 19 June 2012, 03:08:53 pm »
I am delighted to say that the fast track approach today suffered an EPIC FAIL.  ;D

Link here.

Now begins the real lobbying.