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General Category => Politics and academic/media queries => Topic started by: xw5 on 12 August 2015, 10:10:02 am
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This had its first reading - a formal 'I'd like to introduce this bill' process with no vote or debate - in the House of Lords in June.
It seeks to criminalise publishing or distributing ads for brothels or the services of a prostitute. The punishment would be a fine.
It's not a government bill, and was introduced by Baroness Howe* on behalf of Lord McColl of Dulwich.** As a private bill, its chances of becoming law are not great, but...
services.parliament.uk/bills/2015-16/advertisingofprostitutionprohibition.html
* At one point, if there was a significant quango, she was on it. At one of the meetings around an attempt to criminalise clients a few years ago, I tried to explain to her - the wife of former Tory minister Geoffrey Howe - that some people chose to do sex work and just perhaps their choice should be respected...
** Tory surgeon. Against human trafficking and presumably (wrongly) thinks this will help.
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Hmmmmmm. Hopefully will go nowhere. Seems pretty backward.
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Please...are they going to monitor "the internets" (like George Bush use to say) and fine each ad that sells sex? In order to do that you would need a whole army of policemen. There's no resources for that.
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LOLS. Good luck with that. ;D
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thank you for the link xw5
lets see where they get with that!
Seems they are always looking for areas of lost revenue !
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thank you for the link xw5
lets see where they get with that!
Seems they are always looking for areas of lost revenue !
I think there?s millions of lost revenue for HMRC for many escorts/ web cammers who don't pay tax. Think how many directories/ camsites out there in the U.K alone if HMRC decided to look. They could easily start a clampdown on escorts.
I don?t think this bill is about making money from fines. (The bill proposes fines for escort ads). I think it?s more to do with stopping prostitution, hoping escorts can?t advertise so they give up, no pimps etc. But it will just drive the sex industry underground and pimps controlling girls and cause more soliciting in streets, cards in phone boxes etc.
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Don't worry it hasn't gone uder ground since the law was introduced in June in Northern Ireland that phrase. If any thing it has made getting regs easy' The fear that once was, but it is complety free here. I have my busy days still. Clients was worried but business as usual here. And they are now worried about this in the Republic as the bill is in the spot light. Just be discreet then you'll be sailing through. Remember bob marly ''Don't worry every thing will be alright.'' True words. :)
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Don't worry it hasn't gone uder ground since the law was introduced in June in Northern Ireland that phrase. If any thing it has made getting regs easy' The fear that once was, but it is complety free here. I have my busy days still. Clients was worried but business as usual here. And they are now worried about this in the Republic as the bill is in the spot light. Just be discreet then you'll be sailing through. Remember bob marly ''Don't worry every thing will be alright.'' True words. :)
How does it work if you are a victim of a crime commited by a client?
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If they stop the advertising of escort ads - people will just use the dark web to advertise instead or directories that are offshore.
In the republic of Ireland it?s illegal for newspapers/ magazines to carry ads and internet companies. But escort-Ireland still runs a website for Ireland escorts (where?s it?s illegal to advertise escort ads). But the company has moved to Spain (so they are not in Irish jurisdiction).
Aw is Malta based and has escorts advertising all over the world including United States & UAE where it?s completely illegal.
So how would it work if this law was brought in? The escorts themselves could be fined for placing an ad? I presume the adult directories such as aw & escort Ireland for examples would not be subject to prosecution due to their company being headquartered in a different country.
And what if your escort pictures and ads are stolen and placed on other directories without our permission. This happens all the time! Would escorts still be fined for these stolen ads?
Too many problems with this bill.
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Don't worry it hasn't gone uder ground since the law was introduced in June in Northern Ireland that phrase. If any thing it has made getting regs easy' The fear that once was, but it is complety free here. I have my busy days still. Clients was worried but business as usual here. And they are now worried about this in the Republic as the bill is in the spot light. Just be discreet then you'll be sailing through. Remember bob marly ''Don't worry every thing will be alright.'' True words. :)
How does it work if you are a victim of a crime commited by a client?
From my understanding this bill in Northern Ireland criminalize clients for the purchase of sex. That is proving difficult to police.
The police have no right of entry attached to this bill. They can only be let in (Door opened). An ex constable told me this he left because he didn't agree with the red band. Possibly it would come under another bill the police proceed with the client for assult. I havent read in to it but there are laws to protect us all. I would imagine it names and shames the clients. Who would get a possible fine or conviction if the escort had proof it was him. With the possibility of the police keeping a close eye on the named escort. For easy money catching clients. So in one way it can be good to get the police involved others not.
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Don't be complacent. You cannot imagine how much better your situation is than here in the US. I LOVE to tour in the UK because having the shadow of worry over arrest lifted changes the entire interaction for the better.
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Just to say NUM heard about the reading and sent a letter strongly opposing to all members of the House of Lords, couple of peers did refer to the letter.