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Rachel Firecracker

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***Documentary looking to speak to sex workers***
« on: 25 March 2013, 05:28:40 pm »
Hi

Thanks for clicking on this post.

My name is Rachel and I work for an independent television production company called Firecracker Films (www.firecrackerfilms.com). We specialise in high-quality documentaries for top broadcasters such as the BBC, Channel 4 and Channel 5.

We are currently developing an idea for a new documentary about sex workers, and I'm looking for people who might be interested in helping us: at this stage we are just looking to talk to people about the idea.  At the moment this is not for broadcast.

Our eventual aim is to make a sensitive, insightful documentary series that challenges people's preconceptions of sex workers, and looks into some of the issues that affect sex workers in Britain in 2013.  We have experience in working with vulnerable groups and have already met and filmed with sex workers but are looking for more voices.  The documentary will be looking to train a group of sex workers, from any background or age, in business skills allowing them a possible opportunity to explore other career avenues.  There will be a business guru training the contributors.  There will be no suggestion that they have to do that once the programme has ended, however, through the filming process the brand that the group establish will hopefully gain publicity (in a similar vein to Fine Cell Work) and may offer an alternative entrepreneurial career for some of the group should they choose. 

I am aware that appearing on camera is a lot to ask, and I completely understand that for many members of this message board, anonymity is too precious to consider taking part in such a project. As mentioned at this stage it is not for broadcast and just to find out whether it could be feasible.  If this does sound like something you'd like to talk to us about, or if you would like to know more, I would love to hear from you. I  can be reached at rachel.millar@firecrackerfilms.com or just send me a PM.

Thanks so much for reading this post and if possible please pass it on to anyone else you think might want to read it,
Best wishes,
Rachel.

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Re: ***Documentary looking to speak to sex workers***
« Reply #1 on: 25 March 2013, 05:50:18 pm »
'The documentary will be looking to train a group of sex workers, from any background or age, in business skills allowing them a possible opportunity to explore other career avenues'.

Oh. Wow!

Are we to be saved?? **faints dramatically at feet of researcher**

Most independent sex workers already have these skills, running a business as a sex worker is much like running any other business.

If sex workers wanted to explore other career opportunities, going on national television is hardly going to be advantageous.

Unfortunately, your documentary relies on a very boring stereotype that sex workers are doing this beause we can't do anything else and somehow need both 'skillz' and 'help'.

Can't you come up with something a bit more in touch with reality that doesn't rely on mythical stereotypes please??

Natalie xXx

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« Reply #2 on: 25 March 2013, 06:16:40 pm »
well said and i totally agree.

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« Reply #3 on: 25 March 2013, 06:21:53 pm »
I agree...too many people think us girls 'have' to do this because we dont have the brains to do anything else. As pierced princess said we are running business', most of us doing our own books etc. Were intellegant and doing this because we want to...not because we cant do anything else!

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« Reply #4 on: 25 March 2013, 06:25:23 pm »
Our eventual aim is to make a sensitive, insightful documentary series that challenges people's preconceptions of sex workers, and looks into some of the issues that affect sex workers in Britain in 2013.

probably best to take a look at those preconceptions again, because your basic premise is not presenting much of a challenge to those.

You know what I would  really like to see? A doco that looks at training a bunch of bankers in humanitarian work...now there's a challenge!

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« Reply #5 on: 25 March 2013, 08:23:30 pm »
Well said PP.
I'm a sex worker because I choose to be one. I don't lack  qualifications or skills to pursue another line of work.
A patronising and misinformed post by the OP. I don't like the sound of this documentary at all.

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« Reply #6 on: 25 March 2013, 08:47:01 pm »
You know what I would  really like to see? A doco that looks at training a bunch of bankers in humanitarian work...now there's a challenge!

Can you imagine? It'd all be over within the first ten minutes as the craftiest banker would run off with all the funding that'd been raised, to settle in Morocco and never be seen nor heard from again.

I'd watch it, though. ;D

(Sorry for going off-topic! With regards to the OP: Er, good luck getting a bunch of prossies into a TV documentary... Will you be paying their hourly rates for their time? If you really want to do something useful, how about offering all that free training in business skills to the underpaid workers who clean your office loos? In fact, you could train them to do your job! They'd probably be a bit more insightful.)
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« Reply #7 on: 25 March 2013, 09:02:49 pm »
Unreal.

I agree with all of the above replies.

I tell you what I would like to see... a documentary showing the ladies who have children or disabilities that do this even though they are often only ?20 a week better off as they do not want to rely wholly on benefits. The ladies who have bought one or more properties from years of hard work, even though they religiously pay their tax. The ladies who have given up professional careers, that they have studied, trained and given up years for, as they simply prefer this career.


This business involves me using the following skills:
Self awareness
Creating a 'brand' and a unique selling point, even when there was not one naturally
Creating and developing a website, including SEO
Social Media Marketing
Traditional forms of advertising, marketing and promotion
Self-discipline
Research skills
Time management and diary planning, general organizational skills
Tour planning, involving travel and accommodation booking and a lot of research
Having a polite, warm yet business like telephone manner, along with other forms of good communication
The ability to talk about current affairs in an informed way, history, science and all manner of things, on a longer booking
Creative writing via blogging
Budgeting for equipment and touring
Financial planning for future incall property
Daily bookkeeping and filing of tax information
Commitment, patience, perseverance.

The above is before I even speak to a potential customer and have to use my common sense and a touch of psychology in order to not only secure a booking but keep myself safe.

I'd love to know what you feel a 'business guru' can teach me about general business (though I still have an awful lot to learn about this biz) , all my clients bar one have rebooked, that has nothing to do with my physical looks or skills, but simple client retention.

Take a look at your own preconceptions before trying to challenge other peoples.




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« Reply #8 on: 25 March 2013, 11:31:19 pm »
Unreal.

I agree with all of the above replies.

I tell you what I would like to see... a documentary showing the ladies who have children or disabilities that do this even though they are often only ?20 a week better off as they do not want to reply wholly on benefits. The ladies who have bought one or more properties from years of hard work, even though they religiously pay their tax. The ladies who have given up professional careers, that they have studied, trained and given up years for, as they simply prefer this career.


This business involves me using the following skills:
Self awareness
Creating a 'brand' and a unique selling point, even when there was not one naturally
Creating and developing a website, including SEO
Social Media Marketing
Traditional forms of advertising, marketing and promotion
Self-discipline
Research skills
Time management and diary planning, general organizational skills
Tour planning, involving travel and accommodation booking and a lot of research
Having a polite, warm yet business like telephone manner, along with other forms of good communication
The ability to talk about current affairs in an informed way, history, science and all manner of thing on a longer booking
Creative writing via blogging
Budgeting for equipment and touring
Financial planning for future incall property
Daily bookkeeping and filing of tax information
Commitment, patience, perseverance.

The above is before I even speak to a potential customer and have to use my common sense and a touch of psychology in order to not only secure a booking but keep myself safe.

I'd love to know what you feel a 'business guru' can teach me about general business (though I still have an awful lot to learn about this biz) , all my clients bar one have rebooked, that has nothing to do with my physical looks or skills, but simple client retention.

Take a look at your own preconceptions before trying to challenge other peoples.

The above is so true, the amount of things we do that involve business skills is a pretty long list.

Girls, we are such a disappointment, aren't we?  ;) ;D

Damn us for not being damsels in distress!  :-*

Now, if you don't mind, I'm off to read up on the proposed changes to Google algorithms and learn how this will impact my business marketing.

#skillzinnit

Natalie xXx
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« Reply #9 on: 25 March 2013, 11:54:53 pm »
There will be a business guru training the contributors.

I turned a ?10 sim card, a ?20 dress and some condoms into a business that had a Turnover in the tens of thousands in the first six months of trading. Can your Business Guru match that rate of return on investment? If not, tell him/her that I'd be happy to offer my expertise to help them improve their business. My usual hourly rates will apply.

You're welcome!
R xx


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« Reply #10 on: 26 March 2013, 12:00:50 am »
Indeed.

When I saw this after the week I've just had, specifically the work, travelling and self-organising I've done, the tasks I have completed despite being so tired I could hardly sit up at some points (including now), and the aims I have achieved in my ragbag of paid and unpaid roles including the one right here on our site, and with apologies to those whose PMs I still haven't answered (as well as honest whoring and somehow maintaining sanity, a household and a personal life) I find this particular thread starter so unbelievably, tooth-grindingly, outrageously offensive in it's sheer ignorance and bigotry that I am actually lost for words - I literally cannot write a response, or at least not one that wouldn't break every rule on this forum (and believe me, I drafted a few on the train home). Inform the press, somebody.

To the OP, shame on you.

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« Reply #11 on: 26 March 2013, 12:50:43 am »


To the OP, shame on you.

Oh Amy they're the makers of My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, I think they're beyond shame. OP is the 'business guru' you're offering Thelma Madine? Are we going to give up prossying to make sparkly dresses?! Thelma's Working Girls, does have a ring to it  ;D .

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« Reply #12 on: 26 March 2013, 02:31:55 am »

Our eventual aim is to make a sensitive, insightful documentary series that challenges people's preconceptions of sex workers, and looks into some of the issues that affect sex workers in Britain in 2013.  We have experience in working with vulnerable groups and have already met and filmed with sex workers but are looking for more voices.  The documentary will be looking to train a group of sex workers, from any background or age, in business skills allowing them a possible opportunity to explore other career avenues.  There will be a business guru training the contributors.

Rachel, you are seeing things trough your eyes, maybe you should read this forum and discover we see things different
We choose to escort and doesnt mean we cant or done or will do something else, simply is our choice
Instead of patronizing wg s,  offering a business guru who can teach us nothing we allready dont know, I think would be better if you start seeing this matter as it is, a preconception
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« Reply #13 on: 26 March 2013, 02:04:53 pm »
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The documentary will be looking to train a group of sex workers, from any background or age, in business skills allowing them a possible opportunity to explore other career avenues.  There will be a business guru training the contributors.

Wow! Condescending anyone? You make us sound like a bunch of handicapped human beings (with all my respect for the handicapped). I run a very succesful business, I'm my own webmaster, public relations, marketing advisor, therapist at times and my own sales person. Maybe you should call me to be the "business guru" and do the training instead of some nookhead who probably hasn't run a business in his whole life.
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« Reply #14 on: 26 March 2013, 02:23:47 pm »
Oh gosh yes please do send your guru to help me.

After all not only do I run a successful business and marketing campaign as well as travelling to other towns and doing the same and managing my accounts.  I have a large client base that return time and time again due to my customer skills. Oh I forgot I also have a severely disabled teenage son who needs 24 hour round the clock care so I also have to do time management to ensure all meds are delivered on time and are in stock and that carers are pre booked and paid on time.  As you can see I have no idea what I am doing and I am sure your Guru can give me an extra few hours a day to find time to get a job that earns me a measly wage that wont even cover the cost of my sons carers

I am totally amazed that anyone can come on here, have a read through the site and then still believe we all do this work as we are basically too uneducated to do any other form of work.  After all we are all rushing to sign up to leave this work and train to earn a measly wage for someone else.

Believe it or not some of us have had further education and even undertaken degrees and had careers before turning to prostitution by choice.
perhaps we feel that as we enjoy sex with strangers we can use that to our advantage and make a very good wage and life for ourselves and our families. 

As said above why not take the idea and retrain those who do very menial jobs for minimum wage?  I know why.  It is not really going to make a good programme is it.  Bin men or loo cleaners retrain does not sound quite as shocking as hookers retrain to save their souls.
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