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From Portugal to UK?
« on: 19 May 2023, 03:35:22 pm »
I sincerely hope that this first post of mine will be considered by the majority of you gals as an innocuous introduction and not at all as a despicable intrusion!
What's happening in my life at the moment is that I'm beginning to admit that this country where I find myself, Portugal, isn't the most suitable for the activities this Site is all about.
I'm still fairly young, 28 y.o., and, luckily, attractive enough, but I feel my services here aren't totally appreciated and deservedly rewarded.
Perhaps in UK my escorting career would have a boost, and so I'm considering the option quite seriously..
It would be extremely nice to receive some advice, of course, but what I'm looking for is mainly some sympathy and perhaps encouragement in practical terms...
Hoping that I'm not abusing this request for help, I send to you, dear colleagues based in Great Britain, my most sincere greetings! I love you all! :-*
« Last Edit: 19 May 2023, 03:56:45 pm by Cuddly555 »
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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #1 on: 19 May 2023, 08:24:26 pm »
Welcome to SAAFE, Cuddly555 :)

Have you been to the UK before or do you know anybody here? I suspect you need a visa to work here these days (thanks again, Brexit ::)) and I'd try to get yourself a contact here if you don't already have one, but in London at least there's a big Portuguese community although I don't know about other places.

What are the things you don't like about working in Portugal that you think would be better in the UK? There is lots of info on the SAAFE site and forum from lots of different sex workers so hopefully it can help you with some of the pros and cons :)

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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #2 on: 20 May 2023, 08:28:59 am »
Dear Amy,
I truly appreciate your concern for my case.
What you've just explained I had already taken into consideration, it's quite wise and practical.
You should all know that I'm not Portuguese by birth, in fact I was born in Sydney from Swiss-Italian parents... and while I speak perfectly the language here I don't seem to be able to organise my sex work in a truly productive way.
What I've been trying to achieve is to reach an «upper level» of clietele which really is inexistent in this country, so my meetings are mainly with occasional wealthy tourists and visitors, and are very scarce,
My hope is that UK offers much more options!
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« Reply #3 on: 20 May 2023, 09:05:04 am »
Hi Cuddly, I'm sure you could do it if you wanted to. Are you thinking of moving here permanently or just touring? It's true there are wealthy clients in London but there's also a lot of competition so it may take time to become established. (And you'll have to register for tax)
The biggest advertising platform here is Adultwork but there are many others you could try, especially if you have a niche. Look at the 'where to advertise' thread for some ideas :) For low volume work at high prices I would try Tryst. For working accomodation you could try a day use room in a hotel to begin with. The housing situation in the UK is getting difficult at the moment so if you're moving here permanently make sure you have enough savings.
Good luck!

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« Reply #4 on: 20 May 2023, 09:32:39 am »
Maybe you could come over and do a tour in the UK and get a first-hand experience of work over here. I have a friend who lives in Spain but doesnt work there, she comes over every month to tour here. xx

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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #5 on: 20 May 2023, 10:29:31 am »
Hi Cuddly, I'm sure you could do it if you wanted to. Are you thinking of moving here permanently or just touring? It's true there are wealthy clients in London but there's also a lot of competition so it may take time to become established. (And you'll have to register for tax)
The biggest advertising platform here is Adultwork but there are many others you could try, especially if you have a niche. Look at the 'where to advertise' thread for some ideas :) For low volume work at high prices I would try Tryst. For working accomodation you could try a day use room in a hotel to begin with. The housing situation in the UK is getting difficult at the moment so if you're moving here permanently make sure you have enough savings.
Good luck!
Wow, your answer is really complete, I really appreciate your help!
From what I'm gathering, in UK one cannot avoid registering for tax, but, in my case, about that I'm a little doubtful, because if I just "tour" there, I probably wouldn't like to be taken away part of my earnings...
Anyway, your advice is really useful!
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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #6 on: 20 May 2023, 10:32:08 am »
Maybe you could come over and do a tour in the UK and get a first-hand experience of work over here. I have a friend who lives in Spain but doesnt work there, she comes over every month to tour here. xx
In fact that's what I'm planning to do as a first stage, thanks for suggesting that.
Is that Spanish friend of yours touring for how long every month?
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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #7 on: 20 May 2023, 10:57:00 am »
Wow, your answer is really complete, I really appreciate your help!
From what I'm gathering, in UK one cannot avoid registering for tax, but, in my case, about that I'm a little doubtful, because if I just "tour" there, I probably wouldn't like to be taken away part of my earnings...
Anyway, your advice is really useful!
Take care of yourself please!

Well you can 'avoid' registering for tax and some people do, but we're not going to help you do that here. That said, if it's a working holiday you might declare it with your normal income in your own country - I did this when I worked overseas.

I'm not quite sure what you're hoping for; your posts read as if you plan on charging very high rates that only a tiny proportion of punters will pay, and this is going to take a massive marketing effort (although if you can spin it as a very limited opportunity to see you while you're here that could work) for relatively few bookings and you're really limiting yourself to London and possibly Edinburgh. It really depends on how much work you want and how much free time plus your costs - if you're planning to offer incalls then you'll need somewhere plush and that won't be cheap.

There's a thread here that might be useful too; I remembered it this morning and I think the poster is still about :) https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/new-starter-marketing-high-cost-outcalls/

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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #8 on: 20 May 2023, 11:30:41 am »
Well you can 'avoid' registering for tax and some people do, but we're not going to help you do that here. That said, if it's a working holiday you might declare it with your normal income in your own country - I did this when I worked overseas.

I'm not quite sure what you're hoping for; your posts read as if you plan on charging very high rates that only a tiny proportion of punters will pay, and this is going to take a massive marketing effort (although if you can spin it as a very limited opportunity to see you while you're here that could work) for relatively few bookings and you're really limiting yourself to London and possibly Edinburgh. It really depends on how much work you want and how much free time plus your costs - if you're planning to offer incalls then you'll need somewhere plush and that won't be cheap.

There's a thread here that might be useful too; I remembered it this morning and I think the poster is still about :) https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/new-starter-marketing-high-cost-outcalls/
Very dear Amy, it's so reassuring to notice that here I can get so much help and useful advice! I couldn't ask for more!
Well, I'm not planning to be a "tax-cheater" nor I expect you to be my accomplishes!
What happens is that in Portugal escorting isn't considered an official source of income, and here all our moneys from that activity aren't declared by anybody!
So the money I would gain in UK I can legally avoid to declare in this my own country!

You guessed it right, I do plan to ask for higher fares, and offer exclusive services, mainly overnights.
My idea is to avoid incalls at an initial stage, and concentrate on opportunities like spending long hours in a luxury Hotel room with a wealthy visitor, perhaps a foreign businessman or tourist.
So, you're right, London and/or Glasgow/Edinburgh seem the obvious choices.
Perhaps Manchester and Liverpool too?
I know I'm probably going to encounter many difficulties, but if I don't try I'll never find my way...
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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #9 on: 20 May 2023, 01:00:03 pm »
Very dear Amy, it's so reassuring to notice that here I can get so much help and useful advice! I couldn't ask for more!
Well, I'm not planning to be a "tax-cheater" nor I expect you to be my accomplishes!
What happens is that in Portugal escorting isn't considered an official source of income, and here all our moneys from that activity aren't declared by anybody!
So the money I would gain in UK I can legally avoid to declare in this my own country!

You guessed it right, I do plan to ask for higher fares, and offer exclusive services, mainly overnights.
My idea is to avoid incalls at an initial stage, and concentrate on opportunities like spending long hours in a luxury Hotel room with a wealthy visitor, perhaps a foreign businessman or tourist.
So, you're right, London and/or Glasgow/Edinburgh seem the obvious choices.
Perhaps Manchester and Liverpool too?
I know I'm probably going to encounter many difficulties, but if I don't try I'll never find my way...
Dear Cuddly. 
It will be difficult for you to start this work in the UK. But I hope you succeed.
You cannot legally work in England under immigration laws.  As a tourist, you can stay here for a maximum of 6 months in 1 year.
Since you don't have a work permit and you don't have an English address, you can't open a bank account either.
So what you are looking for will be available to you in cash.  For this reason, e.g.  London Manchester works for you because customers there pay in British pounds.  Glasgow or Edinburgh are not good for you because these cities are in Scotland and the Scottish pound is the primary means of payment here.  However, the Scottish pound is only accepted in the UK.  It is not accepted anywhere else in the world.  They do not convert to other currencies.  The other big problem is that due to the tightening of money laundering laws, it will be very difficult to send your money home.  For example through moneygram or Westunion.  When traveling home, you can have a maximum of £10,000 in cash with you.

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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #10 on: 20 May 2023, 02:43:35 pm »
the Scottish pound is only accepted in the UK.  It is not accepted anywhere else in the world.  They do not convert to other currencies.  The other big problem is that due to the tightening of money laundering laws, it will be very difficult to send your money home.  For example through moneygram or Westunion.  When traveling home, you can have a maximum of £10,000 in cash with you.
Very dear Greta, would you believe that I never realized that in Scotland you have a different currancy than the English one??
That's so strange, given the fact that Great Britain is somewhat a united country, at least commercially!!
May I ask you how a Scot does to pay services and goods when crosses the border? Is the Scottish currency accepted in England without any formality or not?
Anyway, what you just pointed out is of utmost interest in my case, I surely will take it into deep consideration, I truly appreciate this warning of yours, it has been quite thoughtful of you!  :-*
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« Reply #11 on: 20 May 2023, 03:48:01 pm »
No, Scotland doesn't have a different currency - the currency is GBP/sterling throughout the UK.

What Scotland and Northern Ireland do have is different banknotes because they're issued by Scottish and NI banks rather than the Bank of England, and these can be problematic to exchange in other countries because they're less familiar overseas (I found this out for myself in Mexico City a long time ago :)).

Greta72 has added some very practical information there which many of us won't have even thought of; what were you planning to do about payment and banking here? Might there be an online bank you can use?

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Re: From Portugal to UK?
« Reply #12 on: 20 May 2023, 04:00:10 pm »
No, Scotland doesn't have a different currency - the currency is GBP/sterling throughout the UK.

What Scotland and Northern Ireland do have is different banknotes because they're issued by Scottish and NI banks rather than the Bank of England, and these can be problematic to exchange in other countries because they're less familiar overseas (I found this out for myself in Mexico City a long time ago :)).

Greta72 has added some very practical information there which many of us won't have even thought of; what were you planning to do about payment and banking here? Might there be an online bank you can use?
Aaah, OK, dear Amy, everything is clear now: I'm pretty sure that here in Portugal the main banks do accept Scottish banknotes and convert 'em into Euro, in fact once a Scottish Doctor I spent the night with did pay me by those Pounds and I had no problem whatsoever to deposit 'em into my A/C, so that's a worry we can live without, thanks God! To answer your Q., my idea would be to accept only CASH, and dispose of that in a sensible way, being careful and attentive; to handle banknotes though, I doubt my online Bank could be useful.. LOL  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 20 May 2023, 05:58:52 pm »
my idea would be to accept only CASH, and dispose of that in a sensible way

Yes, I like shopping too :D

What Greta (and I) meant was that if you're going to be here for any length of time you're going to need to be able to bank your money or how do you plan to support yourself? You will have ongoing advertising costs and accommodation to pay for and a pile of cash isn't actually that useful once you've bought groceries, even if it was wise to carry it around with you or have it lying around the place (which it isn't). Obviously if you're only going to be here for a week or so that's different :)

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« Reply #14 on: 21 May 2023, 08:29:03 am »
Certainly, dear Amy, I get your point!  ::)
My idea though is to play it by ear, to solve problems when they'll arise, not beforehand...In practical terms, I think I'd use my credit cards for any non-cash payment, and, yes, keep the banknotes gained working in a safe hidden place, until they are so many that I'd need a van to carry 'em around...  ;D
I really appreciate your concern though, you're worrying for me as a friend would... I hope to deserve it!  >:D
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