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Title: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 28 December 2020, 07:50:35 pm
Today in - "its really not ok to ask a sex worker to do that"

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Can you collect the cum of other clients without their knowledge for use during our booking?


What is wrong with some people...
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: MissElvira on 28 December 2020, 11:39:02 pm
Had quite a few guys want me to do this so they can be forced to drink it lol I refuse as I want to keep clients cum bagged, Sealed and disposed of. Hate the smell of it personally.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: CelesteManchester on 29 December 2020, 01:15:56 am
Not to mention the health risks??? Repulsive, man. Repulsive.🤢

Why aren’t we running the world🌎??🤷🏼‍♀️🪓
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Lushblossom on 29 December 2020, 08:31:22 am
I have been asked this quite a few times over the years.  Abhorrent.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: EllaUnicorn123 on 29 December 2020, 11:09:31 am
I’ve had clients pay for used condoms and lick them out clean.  :-X
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: BangerRacing on 29 December 2020, 11:57:21 am
Why don't they just drink their own?

A friend of mine used to do this. I'd go in her freezer & it was full of used condoms in the bottom compartment.  Disgusting on many levels.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: oleyoleyWG on 29 December 2020, 01:24:48 pm
Hi I don’t mind the dirty guys drinking out of used condoms from the bin if they like on bdsm bookings, I think it’s vile haha but I don’t mind what they want to drink or do to themselves and once they’ve left it’s not my problem xx
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: amy on 29 December 2020, 03:19:03 pm
Hi I don’t mind the dirty guys drinking out of used condoms from the bin if they like on bdsm bookings, I think it’s vile haha but I don’t mind what they want to drink or do to themselves and once they’ve left it’s not my problem xx

Yeah, I had a regular years ago who liked to do it and provided he didn't expect kissing afterwards I didn't really care. He occasionally wanted to pour it on me and lick it off though and even thinking about that now gives me the boak  :-X.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 29 December 2020, 03:23:54 pm
I think the issue I have with this is the client wanted me to actively hang on to other people's cum without their knowledge. It feels shady.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: amy on 29 December 2020, 03:28:25 pm
I think the issue I have with this is the client wanted me to actively hang on to other people's cum without their knowledge. It feels shady.

Well I've had a few over the years insist on taking their used condoms away with them, so there's probably something in that? Maybe they thought I was going to clone their DNA or something, like Jurassic Park :D
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: CelesteManchester on 30 December 2020, 01:36:16 am
Yeah, I had a regular years ago who liked to do it and provided he didn't expect kissing afterwards I didn't really care. He occasionally wanted to pour it on me and lick it off though and even thinking about that now gives me the boak  :-X.

I love this word “boak”! I try & use it when I can, except no 1 stateside has ever heard it, lol.

“Boat🚢? Goat🐐? Float? WTH are you saying?”

😂😂😂
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: amy on 30 December 2020, 01:58:22 am
I love this word “boak”! I try & use it when I can, except no 1 stateside has ever heard it, lol.

“Boat🚢? Goat🐐? Float? WTH are you saying?”

;D

Boak is to retch or puke - just retching can also be 'the dry boak'.

eg. "Jist huvin tae see tha wid huv gied us tha dry boak."
tr: "Being witness to such a revolting act would undoubtedly have rendered me quite nauseous".

Always 'the'; never 'a'.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: English Green on 30 December 2020, 11:50:09 am
I had 1 guy do this a long time ago picked up used condoms to use/drink. I would never ever agree to this again it is so revolting still makes me feel sick thinking about it.

Sex work really brings out the most revolting creatures to ever live.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: EllaUnicorn123 on 30 December 2020, 12:18:40 pm
Well I've had a few over the years insist on taking their used condoms away with them, so there's probably something in that? Maybe they thought I was going to clone their DNA or something, like Jurassic Park :D

Also had this quite a few times with ‘rich’ men in London. They think we would purposely impregnate ourselves with a syringe when they leave and blackmail them for abortion money or child support etc  ;D ???
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 30 December 2020, 01:24:53 pm
Also had this quite a few times with ‘rich’ men in London. They think we would purposely impregnate ourselves with a syringe when they leave and blackmail them for abortion money or child support etc  ;D ???

God that's weird...

(also tempting, but I don't have a womb so I guess I'm fresh out of luck)
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: ana30 on 30 December 2020, 02:03:52 pm
The cum drinking thingy is a common fetish, albeit a crazy, dangerous and very gross one. Did the OP client intended to go ahead with this crazy fetish had she said "yes!" I don't think so, but he was heavily fantasizing about it that for sure. In this industry we come around all sorts of the most bizarre fetishes, some repulsive, some fun and some ethically and morally WRONG. If I opened a thread for every bizarre fetish request I've heard over the years I would probably collapse the Saafe server.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: amy on 30 December 2020, 09:43:15 pm
Sex work really brings out the most revolting creatures to ever live.

Are you including yourself and the rest of us in that EG (as plenty of people certainly would), or just those who enjoy things which you don't?

The cum drinking thingy is a common fetish, albeit a crazy, dangerous one

Crazy and dangerous how? It's not something that would ever appeal to me - CIM and swallowing included - but some of the language on this thread around a relatively common (if a little out there) request is getting positively OTT. 

Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: English Green on 30 December 2020, 10:09:02 pm
Yes i do find clients wanting to drink lots of our previous clients condoms contents pretty gross.  Obviously each to there own but yes it does make me want to puke Amy but so does smelly halitosis on clients and shitty bums. I just don't have a strong stomach for any of that.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: BangerRacing on 31 December 2020, 07:38:53 pm
Are you including yourself and the rest of us in that EG (as plenty of people certainly would), or just those who enjoy things which you don't?

Crazy and dangerous how? It's not something that would ever appeal to me - CIM and swallowing included - but some of the language on this thread around a relatively common (if a little out there) request is getting positively OTT.

EG is clearly referring to the clients who want to drink other guys semen when said other guys don't know about it. It's a pretty deviant thing to do. If those other guys know about it & are complicit then that's a different matter regarding consent. They can go to bukakee party & have a free for all there, instead of being underhand about it & passing on other people's bodily fluids without their prior consent.

What if they have blood in the semen or other STI's etc It's hardly OTT to be conscious of what's in multiple people's bodily fluids & being passed around to strangers without their consent.

Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: MissElvira on 31 December 2020, 08:02:02 pm
With the drinking of cum I personally remember my ex husbands cum smelt so strong and made me gag lol like swimming pool chlorine and I've not smelt it that strong since. I have done snowballing before with a few clients when I first started. I don't judge it as weird i mean takes all sorts and many escorts make a great career on doing what another refuses and that's cool. But to collect cum for someone else is just too much hard work for me and actually old cum is really gross, Had the mishap of having spilt the stuff or finding a untied condom in the bin yuk.....Gagging now thinking of it lol  plus also maybe morally wrong to give other clients cum away for money but after it's been disposed by a client it's useless really, But I suppose we have to make our own judgements on if we feel it would be unsafe to let another client drink it but also the client should know the risk anyway. Rather have a client that likes the idea of his cum being sold then I'd feel better lol but it's a endless debate on the health part and STDs. Morally and the things that gross us out individually is just that our own individual boundaries and we can't judge anyone,  And we all have a choice to pick what we will do for our money and won't but should always sit well with us and cause no harm.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 31 December 2020, 08:14:03 pm
Yeah I wasn’t going to get drawn on this but my main objection to this request was on ethical (and logistical) grounds. It was not my intention to start a kink shaming discussion.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: amy on 31 December 2020, 08:31:18 pm
EG is clearly referring to the clients who want to drink other guys semen when said other guys don't know about it. It's a pretty deviant thing to do. If those other guys know about it & are complicit then that's a different matter regarding consent. They can go to bukakke party & have a free for all there, instead of being underhand about it & passing on other people's bodily fluids without their prior consent.

Yes, but it's surely the act/behaviour that people (including me) find gruesome. That is not the same as calling the people who enjoy it 'disgusting', and this sort of differentiation is important when it comes to sweeping, pearlclutching generalisations.

What if they have blood in the semen or other STI's etc It's hardly OTT to be conscious of what's in multiple people's bodily fluids & being passed around to strangers without their consent.

How would that have any effect on the person whose semen it was (and who I would assume had finished with it, given that they didn't take it with them as a few of us have seen on other posts further up)?

If a grown man wants to drink semen, urine, Red Bull or anything else that I would sooner stick wasps up my arse than put it in my mouth then any consequences of that (and if it had been lying around for a while or in the freezer I can't imagine there would be many) are his problem, not mine. And it's also his responsibility to inform himself.of what (if any) those consequences might be.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: English Green on 31 December 2020, 08:54:36 pm
I was talking about clients not fellow sex workers that i found disgusting.

I do find clients that want to buy old stale cum from lots of men revolting and want to drink it in front of you. I don't think its unreasonable to assume a lot would find that vomit inducing just like a lot would find eating clients shit revolting or them wanting to eat ours. However obviously it's up to consenting adults what they want to do.

I also understand that the public some of them would find sex workers choice of work disgusting or disagree with what we do and i accept that is there option and i understand why some think like that. We all just have different views.

I have met some nice clients that are respectful and pleasant to see that i do not find disgusting but unfortunately i do put some clients in the revolting category like many of us do at times.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 01 January 2021, 12:21:31 pm
I was talking about clients not fellow sex workers that i found disgusting.

That's a peculiar distinction to make - why should sex workers be any better than clients in this regard? I'm sure if all of us laid bare everything that gets us all off we'd each of us manage to find stuff in there that others found a little distasteful.


I do find clients that want to buy old stale cum from lots of men revolting and want to drink it in front of you. I don't think its unreasonable to assume a lot would find that vomit inducing just like a lot would find eating clients shit revolting or them wanting to eat ours. However obviously it's up to consenting adults what they want to do.

I think you've missed the point that Amy is trying to make. Its absolutely not unreasonable to find the act itself "vomit inducing", but calling people who are into it "disgusting" for something that they probably can't control as it is part of their psychological makeup, is really not all that different from a man calling me "disgusting" as a homosexual, because he personally finds the idea of a penis being inserted into his anus a little disgusting or uncomfortable.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: English Green on 01 January 2021, 12:45:07 pm
Alex oak we are all made differently and all find certain things revolting just like i previously said some of the public will find me disgusting for doing any kind of sex work and i am ok with that and accept it and understand why they think like that.  If you want to say " people cant help what they get off on and not fair to call them disgusting" well being a pedo some can't help apparantely but i find them disgusting too.

It's no big deal that i find a man who wants to buy old used condoms with many mens old spunk in and pour them all into a cup and drink them in front of me revolting. I had that happen when i first started working and i did not know he was going start doing that in front of me, he was creepy and vile and made me nearly vomit all done to shock me. In fact i thought it was a joke until he did it and i Remember him saying beforehand hope there is a mixture of men in here i like the odd indian man in here.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 01 January 2021, 02:01:36 pm
If you want to say " people cant help what they get off on and not fair to call them disgusting" well being a pedo some can't help apparantely but i find them disgusting too.

I mean the moral difference between desire and action here is a whole can of worms which I'm not going to open. But regardless that's not a fair comparison - Pedofillia (when acted on) is not victimless.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: amy on 01 January 2021, 02:08:35 pm
EG, do you think it's OK to call somebody stupid or thick because their written English is poor? Or would you say that the person is just not very good at spelling, grammar and punctuation, and their actual intelligence is separate from specific things they might be good or bad at and therefore nothing to do with it?

You can possibly see where I'm going with this.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: English Green on 01 January 2021, 02:30:54 pm
Yes Amy i see where you are going with that and no not usually in those situations


But i have called some clients before on here revolting for other things like shit all around there arse or cottage cheese on there private parts and other things. It's not a clients forum i thought it was ok to let off steam about certain things that revolt us. I am sure there is some things that i possibly like or do (non sexual) that other's might call revolting but that is fine i accept we are all different.

You said yourself you find the act gruesome ( vomit inducing) and not for you but that act is done by a human being not by a invisible force or a ghost so i just see it as the same. But i respect your opinion and respect the fact you see it differently to me.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 02 January 2021, 07:07:29 pm
How would that have any effect on the person whose semen it was (and who I would assume had finished with it, given that they didn't take it with them as a few of us have seen on other posts further up)?

I think the problem lies here in that they would be making a reasonable assumption that their ejaculate is going to be disposed of, not used for someone else's enjoyment.

I personally think it's akin to someone secretly recording me and then wanking over it. It's not something I consented to. The law around recording people states that it can't be done without consent where the subject has "a reasonable expectation of privacy".

Anyone who does record secretly no doubt justifies it to themselves as "what they don't know won't hurt them" - but if I found out someone had recorded me in secret I'd be fucking fuming.

I did have a client who asked to put a discarded condom over his cock and wank into it. I allowed it once, but afterwards I felt I'd done the wrong thing and when he came back and asked for the same again I said I wasn't going to do it and explained why. I'm not sure if he took my point but he didn't argue... although I've never seen him again, so perhaps he found someone else happy to accommodate!
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Mirror on 03 January 2021, 08:14:39 am
I've had a couple of punters insist on taking their used condoms away, seemed to think the contents could be used to identify or incriminate them.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Miffy on 03 January 2021, 08:42:14 am
I've had a couple of punters insist on taking their used condoms away, seemed to think the contents could be used to identify or incriminate them.

Maybe they have been watching Line of Duty? In one of the series, possibly the first, there was a plot line where a criminal gang who operated brothels kept used condoms in a freezer, should they need to incriminate or blackmail someone in future.

Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 03 January 2021, 12:12:44 pm
I think the problem lies here in that they would be making a reasonable assumption that their ejaculate is going to be disposed of, not used for someone else's enjoyment.

I personally think it's akin to someone secretly recording me and then wanking over it. It's not something I consented to. The law around recording people states that it can't be done without consent where the subject has "a reasonable expectation of privacy".

This is exactly my issue.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: amy on 03 January 2021, 12:58:49 pm
I think the problem lies here in that they would be making a reasonable assumption that their ejaculate is going to be disposed of, not used for someone else's enjoyment.

I personally think it's akin to someone secretly recording me and then wanking over it. It's not something I consented to. The law around recording people states that it can't be done without consent where the subject has "a reasonable expectation of privacy".

I can't see the similarity there at all - a video is a lasting record that could also be identifying, plus it's somebody doing something they've been asked not to do or that they know (from advertising) isn't on offer, plus covert filming is illegal? I'd liken this more to leaving a used tampon in the bathroom bin (or a poo in the toilet even - I don't use tampons and I do flush toilets :D) and somebody deciding to fish either of them out and make merry in whatever way they saw fit.

Would I think it was grim - yes. Would I be precious because it was my tampon or poo? Nope. Unless I'm missing something and men are weird about semen in particular as a waste product? If so, they must have a terrible time when they have a wank ;D.
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 05 January 2021, 10:01:36 pm
I can't see the similarity there at all - a video is a lasting record that could also be identifying, plus it's somebody doing something they've been asked not to do or that they know (from advertising) isn't on offer, plus covert filming is illegal? I'd liken this more to leaving a used tampon in the bathroom bin (or a poo in the toilet even - I don't use tampons and I do flush toilets :D) and somebody deciding to fish either of them out and make merry in whatever way they saw fit.

Would I think it was grim - yes. Would I be precious because it was my tampon or poo? Nope. Unless I'm missing something and men are weird about semen in particular as a waste product? If so, they must have a terrible time when they have a wank ;D.

I think your analogy is probably better - but yes I'd still object mightily to someone taking my poo, pee, snot, sweat or blood and using it for their own gratification. Because it's not just a "thing" - it's something biological, that was created by and came out of me. And if it was being used for someone else's sexual gratification without my consent then I would feel violated.

I'm happy to sell used knickers, I'm happy to pee on someone, but those are acts to which I've agreed.

Anyone helping themselves to my poop must have had a nasal bypass, mind :D
Title: Re: You want me to do *what* now?
Post by: Alex Oak on 05 January 2021, 10:29:40 pm
Would I think it was grim - yes. Would I be precious because it was my tampon or poo? Nope. Unless I'm missing something and men are weird about semen in particular as a waste product? If so, they must have a terrible time when they have a wank ;D.

Your reaction here is entirely pragmatic and reasonable, and I'd probably feel the same. However, not everyone is as pragmatic about human bodies as the average sex worker. Here is my question to you:

If you asked every single client whether it was ok if you stored their semen so it could be used for the gratification of another client, do you think every single person would be fine with it? I'd argue no, and so to do so without their knowledge would be unethical.