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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: MsDee on 20 August 2015, 08:34:34 am
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As we all know clients pay for our time and what happens during that time is between two consenting adults.
I am definately not a clock watcher and as most of my clients will attest they usually stay at least 15 minutes over their booked appointment time. But when you have the obnoxious, rude and downright "i paid for it, i can do what i want" types, that when his 30min or hour is up it is up buddy, get dressed and hasta la vista.
I am not sure if this is everybody's experience but more and more these days I tend to find that clients will book you for 30 minutes and then try and squeeze it for an hour or stay much longer than what they paid for. People might call me cold hearted or too business orientated and although the sex can be good majority of the time are we not doing this for the money? Are we not a business i.e service provider and service seeker?
It is down to us to ensure that our clients have a fabulous time during our appointment time but are they entitled to assume they can stay as long as they want?
Unfortunately when we stick to the time routine we are labelled clock watchers or too mechanical or too cold and money orientated.
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Yes, it's true. I don't have too much of a problem with this but I know that some clients feel that any reminder that they're only there because they've paid means you've let the mask slip and they resent that.
But it's their problem, not ours.
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Some will respect our professional boundaries others will always try pushing them.
I get 15 min booking guys who have no concept of time whatsoever!
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Some will respect our professional boundaries others will always try pushing them.
I get 15 min booking guys who have no concept of time whatsoever!
I find those that initially book a longer appointment then change it to be this type of boundary pusher
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Yes it's an awkward part of the job I find. I'm not one for letting people stay any longer, mins over I can take but any more than that is only in the extremely rare case I'm enjoying their company
I think maybe being with an agency I have a ready made excuse as I only get 15 mins between apts so I set my alarm a few mins before time is up and I have to wrap up the booking if I want to be clean and room sorted before next booking.
I agree FB that we shouldn't feel bad. A genuine sports masseuse or physio practitioner doesn't give extra time bcos the customer has a fragile ego that they want stroking!
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I think we need to remember that all this "feedback" we hear about things like us girls being clock watchers or whatever comes from forums usually, so it's not really something we should actually take seriously I feel as they've got their agenda
Maybe it depends on the length of booking ie amount of money as well, I know that if I'm with the agency getting ?35 for half an hour no way am I giving extra time
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As far as I'm concerned I am being paid for a service which is paid for in a particular amount of time.
I am clear in my advertising about the type of services and experience offered. I also guide clients in what I can/cannot do. Two hours of constant shagging away, with no breaks or orgasm for the man, that is not the sort of thing I'm offering. I have had someone do that but it's very rare.
When I offered half hour bookings I found many of them did want to cram things in, or saunter around making 30 minutes into 50 minutes.
I have however also had several men book 1 hour, over run, and then saunter around and when I've said something about their 1 hour becoming 90 minutes, they have taken offence. Interestingly enough several of these told me they considered me friend, and that they cared for me, often they'd be on a regular discount or old rates. It's not logical that they'd then test my hospitality, or perhaps that's the whole point!
Other times I have clients who book the time they know they will take up, and go bob on that time which is absolutely brilliant.
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I also have this , i realise that if you let them once stay just a 10 min overtime next time they take advantage of it and dont bother to leave. I had a client in Essex who always stay over time and everytime he want to come he tell me from before that we take it easy like before ( he pays for 1h but like to stay 2h) , i never let him stay so long(max15 min) but he keep try his luck saying that we are friends now
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Yes they abuse our 'politeness'.
It's a mistake to sit undressed, chatting, drinking or pottering
round the room because 'subtle' doesn't work with boundary pushers...
They've already taken control.
But we just didn't notice it yet!
5 minute's before time's up I'm out the room and
smile, 'I'll give you a minute to get dressed.'
No drama, no debate, polite and clear.
No one's ever naked when I got back.
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Yes they abuse our 'politeness'.
It's a mistake to sit undressed, chatting, drinking or pottering
round the room because 'subtle' doesn't work with boundary pushers...
they've already taken control.
But we just didn't notice it yet!
5 minute's before time's up I'm out the room and
smile, 'I'll give you a minute to get dressed.'
No drama or debate, polite and clear.
No one's ever naked when I got back.
When doing incall I would walk out the room to get a gown, sometimes if someone was really faffing I'd go and start tidying up the lounge, go get a drink, or even turn my phone on - never answer it with a client, but sometimes the ping of a text being received would remind the client that it was time to go.
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Yes they abuse our 'politeness'.
It's a mistake to sit undressed, chatting, drinking or pottering
round the room because 'subtle' doesn't work with boundary pushers...
they've already taken control.
But we just didn't notice it yet!
5 minute's before time's up I'm out the room and
smile, 'I'll give you a minute to get dressed.'
No drama or debate, polite and clear.
No one's ever naked when I got back.
When doing incall I would walk out the room to get a gown, sometimes if someone was really faffing I'd go and start tidying up the lounge, go get a drink, or even turn my phone on - never answer it with a client, but sometimes the ping of a text being received would remind the client that it was time to go.
I do this but some still don't get the message, I do start answering my phone if they're taking too long, x
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Thankfully I get those types very rarely. Usually of the "but I haven't finished yet!" variety. Still though, I'm guessing it's more of an incall thing?
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I literally just had a client who was going overtime and he needed to be told. I did it nicely, of course. It's just that I looked over his shoulder at the clock and saw that we'd reached 30 minutes and he was still fucking me so I said, "Would you like to cum in my mouth, or how would you like to finish?" And he said, "Oh, in your pussy but in a minute... can I stick it in your bum hole, first?" He hadn't paid extra for anal, I hadn't prepared for anal, and his time was up so I just said, "No, sweetie... we're out of time I'm afraid." He took it pretty well. As he was dressing I explained that if he'd read my profile he'd have seen that anal is extra and requires preparing.
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"can I stick it in your bum hole, first?"
Who said romance was dead, eh?
I had to laugh this week. My 30 minuter who always hangs around surprised me by booking for an hour. So of course, he ended up blathering on 10-15m past his time...
I find the vast majority of clients are fine and go within good time. If they don't then my policy varies depending on whether I like them!
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I saw a review for a girl recently where it was commented was the only negative was that she didn't give any time for free... how is that to give a good service something for free is expected of us now?
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I saw a review for a girl recently where it was commented was the only negative was that she didn't give any time for free... how is that to give a good service something for free is expected of us now?
That's why it's a good idea to not read reviews. (I admire those who actually do ignore them.) Those sorts of guys are just loopy fantasist idiots.
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It's a control mechanism by disempowered people.
It barely matters the subject is.
If it's not that...it would be something else.
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I saw a review for a girl recently where it was commented was the only negative was that she didn't give any time for free... how is that to give a good service something for free is expected of us now?
I saw that too, I couldn't believe someone could be that out of order to give a negative for not getting free time.
Luckily not all clients are like that and I would guess the genuine ones would see past the stupidity!
I do outcalls only so it can be harder to clock watch! But I have had a few piss takers who book me say for 10pm for two hours and then when 12am comes, they will be like "you can stay over if you like" and I bet if I went "Yeah that's an extra ?500 for an overnight" they wouldn't be so keen!
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I'm obviously a bitch, as I don't have this problem.
I give them a 10 minute 'warning' if they haven't cum and if they don't cum, I tell them time is up (although granted, this hasn't happened often).
I just won't tolerate it. If I go to my local spa for a massage the appointment ends when time is up. It's the same thing.
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I think a lot of agencies and massage parlours advertise an 'unrushed' service and maybe are somewhat to blame for clients pushing the limits were time is concerned?
I recently worked for a short time in a parlour and the 'unrushed service' was always quoted and impressed upon a potential client. Also there wasn't a clock in the room although I got rather good at knowing when the half hour was up.
If I did go over, sometimes by 10 or 15 mins if the client was taking his time, the receptionist(usually the owner, a previous wg) wouldn't knock on the door unless another client was waiting!
Funny how quickly she changed her tune when she wasn't the one lying on her back for free :FF
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Ah 'unrushed', that was repeated back to me when someone who took a lot of messaging to set up bookings, short changed me with the fee, overstayed said when I told him he was pushing it a bit.
He said "But you offer an unrushed service which means no clocks".
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??? wtf
Some people shouldn't be let out.
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I say something about never trying to rush them out or short change them in my profile, but I say them together so that it makes it clear that they are only getting the time they pay for lol I just won't kick them out early.
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I have no mercy and I've been flamed for it by clients before but I could care less. I leave bang on time and if they haven't finished that is their problem. I often get the ones who pop once and then think they can go again so they end up still wanking their flaccid cocks as I'm getting dressed. I will walk out on them mid-wank if their time is up as well.
They get the time they paid for why should we feel guilty for not giving them extra FREE time? As has been said if I go to a proper massage place and pay for an hour I don't rudely say to the masseuse I want free extra time because I've paid a lot of money! Some clients just want to take advantage and they get butthurt when I don't play their little games.
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Ah 'unrushed', that was repeated back to me when someone who took a lot of messaging to set up bookings, short changed me with the fee, overstayed said when I told him he was pushing it a bit.
He said "But you offer an unrushed service which means no clocks".
To me, unrushed should mean you won't be ushered out of the door early, not extra free time!
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Ah 'unrushed', that was repeated back to me when someone who took a lot of messaging to set up bookings, short changed me with the fee, overstayed said when I told him he was pushing it a bit.
He said "But you offer an unrushed service which means no clocks".
To me, unrushed should mean you won't be ushered out of the door early, not extra free time!
That's what I think too, that's why I worded it very carefully when writing my profile. As I knew just writing 'unrushed' would be read as 'free time'.
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Ah 'unrushed', that was repeated back to me when someone who took a lot of messaging to set up bookings, short changed me with the fee, overstayed said when I told him he was pushing it a bit.
He said "But you offer an unrushed service which means no clocks".
To me, unrushed should mean you won't be ushered out of the door early, not extra free time!
Obviously they just read what they want to read!
That's what I think too, that's why I worded it very carefully when writing my profile. As I knew just writing 'unrushed' would be read as 'free time'.
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I don't know about other girls here, but how the client looks doesn't affect when the booking finishes. Some run over by a few minutes if I don't notice of have difficulty getting them out of the door but other than that I keep professional lines in place for everyone, I wouldn't give free time to the fit ones.
Some clients I'd love to see again outside of work, but I can only do this job by keeping the boundaries there across the board and detaching personally.
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I have a client that comes every week for an hour and thinks we are in a friendship, not a business agreement.
That's where I get confused, what can we do? We are pleasers by nature, and they go and interpret it as it suits them. This particular one, stays for 1 1/2 hours, when just paying for one, I don't mind, he is very helpful otherwise, not that it would cover the 30mns extra every week, but we never know what gonna happen tomorrow and is better to have some people on your side for a rainy day. However I was absolutely chocked when sometime ago he sent me a txt asking if everything was ok as he notice we just stayed together for 1 hour and 15mns :FF :FF. it was already 15mns more than he paid for and he is now moaning....
I suppose that there is two kinds of clients who wants more time than they are entitled to:
The ones who think that there is more than business and we only take their money because we are poor little girls, and the spiteful ones who wants to make sure that they are going to get every penny worth. To be honest both cases are very sad!
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but we never know what gonna happen tomorrow and is better to have some people on your side for a rainy day.
How do you imagine he'll help you on this 'rainy day'?
When we confuse clients this is what happens.
Not good for him or you.
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I have a client that comes every week for an hour and thinks we are in a friendship, not a business agreement.
That's where I get confused, what can we do? We are pleasers by nature, and they go and interpret it as it suits them. This particular one, stays for 1 1/2 hours, when just paying for one, I don't mind, he is very helpful otherwise, not that it would cover the 30mns extra every week, but we never know what gonna happen tomorrow and is better to have some people on your side for a rainy day. However I was absolutely chocked when sometime ago he sent me a txt asking if everything was ok as he notice we just stayed together for 1 hour and 15mns :FF :FF. it was already 15mns more than he paid for and he is now moaning....
I suppose that there is two kinds of clients who wants more time than they are entitled to:
The ones who think that there is more than business and we only take their money because we are poor little girls, and the spiteful ones who wants to make sure that they are going to get every penny worth. To be honest both cases are very sad!
Bianca, I had this problem - and you need to say something. With mine, the next time he booked, I texted him and pointed out that I did 45 and 1h meets (he always booked 30m and stayed for 45m+), that I didn't mind how long he booked for but that he needed to stick to the time. He called me and was fairly apologetic, and next time booked for an hour (admittedly, he was tardy leaving - aaargh!)
I would tell your client that you can either do a 1h booking, or 1.5hs - it's up to him. Whatever he books next time, start getting dressed, tidy up etc. when that time is over. If he complains, just say: "But you only booked for..."