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WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« on: 17 August 2012, 08:01:44 am »
Last year I was working for an agency, the standard charge of everyone then was roughly ?70 - 80 per half hour and ?140 hourly. I`ve just done a quick search on AW and discovered loads of girls in my area are charging roughly ?10 - 20 lower than this! Some 2 hour incalls are as little as ?220 or less, I dont mind giving a little discount but surely thats underselling yourself. If I were doing a two hour booking I`d want at least ?250 for a basic GFE ( thats a ?30 discount, in my eyes, if I were usually charging ?70 per half hour ).

Also I`ve noticed an increase in women selling extras such as watersports and Anal for only ?10, or for free. Im baffled!!!!

Why have the prices been driven down? Are men not paying as much anymore?

I dont get it, Im selling my body here. I pay my hairdresser ?110 to cut and streak my hair, and dosent have to worry about weirdos, sore bits,STD`s or getting outed.

Just some food for thought xxxxx 

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #1 on: 17 August 2012, 08:29:22 am »
Assumedly the markets simply become oversaturated with escorts and clients are becoming thinner on the ground?  There are also a lot of foreign escorts who will have different expectations in terms of acceptable remuneration for the risks associated with doing it which is bound to have an effect.

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #2 on: 17 August 2012, 08:51:02 am »
its the summer holidays, i find there is not much work around
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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #3 on: 17 August 2012, 09:08:18 am »
You can't really compare agency prices to indie prices imo. Did you check AW least year when working for the agency?

Agencies tend to charge the 'standard' amount for an area. But it usually isn't, it's usually the high end of the local market. If you averaged the girls working indie the 'standard' rate will most likely be much lower, and I'm sure last year that would have been the same.

The difference now is that (as other posters have said) the market has become more saturated with prossies. Some of which base their prices on competition or what they feel comfortable with. There are also the hundreds of fake profiles to look out for.

Of course all of this means the clients can punt for less and some of the average-higher end girls aren't doing so well because the client may think 'why should I pay xx when I can get xx'.

At the end of the day though your prices need to be a reflection of what you are comfortable with, how you are marketing yourself, and whether it's realistic or not. I would say if you want to charge a higher rate it is perfectly viable to do so, but you'll need to up your advertising- get yourself a good website, pro style pics etc and advertise directly towards the higher end of the market. There is still money to be made, you just have to work a little harder to get it.

The exact rate that you end up charging will probably come down to trial and error though.  :-\

Good Luck!

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #4 on: 17 August 2012, 09:37:12 am »
I think the area of the country you are in too reflects prices charged.

I was down in Bristol last year and there are students down there paying off their debts by whoring and they are charging as little as ?30-?40 for 30 mins with an hour coming in at around ?70, so that puts everyone elses prices way out of range.

Lets face it, many guys dont care where they park their poker when they are feeling horny and some will go to these cheaper girls. 

I'm in no way saying reduce prices but everyone must be aware that the higher your prices the less work you will PROBABLY get.  I'm not saying thats a definite .............. there are some guys who like to see their 'special' whore, but for every one of them there are many that don't bother.
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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #5 on: 17 August 2012, 09:52:04 am »
I think the area of the country you are in too reflects prices charged.

I'm in no way saying reduce prices but everyone must be aware that the higher your prices the less work you will PROBABLY get.  I'm not saying thats a definite .............. there are some guys who like to see their 'special' whore, but for every one of them there are many that don't bother.

I agree.
But this has always been true. The higher your rates= the less bookings you get.

I think the attitude to setting prices has completely changed... it's now a case of
 'how low do you go' when it used to be 'I don't want to see as many clients so I'll charge more.'  We used to have free reign and could set the higher price knowing we would get work, but these days its being realistic and thinking ok so if I want to charge the same, I might not get any work, so how much lower do my rates need to be to 1. make me not feel like shit 2. get me enough work to pay my bills 3. make me competitive. 

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #6 on: 17 August 2012, 09:56:31 am »
You can't really compare agency prices to indie prices imo. Did you check AW least year when working for the agency?

Agencies tend to charge the 'standard' amount for an area. But it usually isn't, it's usually the high end of the local market. If you averaged the girls working indie the 'standard' rate will most likely be much lower, and I'm sure last year that would have been the same.

The difference now is that (as other posters have said) the market has become more saturated with prossies. Some of which base their prices on competition or what they feel comfortable with. There are also the hundreds of fake profiles to look out for.

Of course all of this means the clients can punt for less and some of the average-higher end girls aren't doing so well because the client may think 'why should I pay xx when I can get xx'.

At the end of the day though your prices need to be a reflection of what you are comfortable with, how you are marketing yourself, and whether it's realistic or not. I would say if you want to charge a higher rate it is perfectly viable to do so, but you'll need to up your advertising- get yourself a good website, pro style pics etc and advertise directly towards the higher end of the market. There is still money to be made, you just have to work a little harder to get it.

The exact rate that you end up charging will probably come down to trial and error though.  :-\

Good Luck!

xx

I agree very much with this. You need to have solid marketing and build a good reputation, and then you should be able to charge something on the higher end of what's usual for your area.

You also need to figure out what your selling points are and push those. Is your nationality popular? Do you have any physical traits which are sought after? Any services that you're really good at? Any particular kind of client that you like to see?

Market yourself at the type of client you perform best with -- for me it's the ones who want longer appointments with a bit of a chat and a personalised touch, as well as nervous newcomers to the paid sex scene, for you it might be something totally different. But if you can make yourself stand out you can avoid the 'race to the bottom' price-war.

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #7 on: 17 August 2012, 10:46:50 am »
I have an example of this, one client sent me a text asking if i would do 30mins for ?60 and i was like thats my 15min charge lol and thr client was like but most girls charge ?30 max for 30mins and i was like well go to these most girls then as these are my prices :p
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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #8 on: 17 August 2012, 02:32:11 pm »
Last year I was working for an agency, the standard charge of everyone then was roughly ?70 - 80 per half hour and ?140 hourly. I`ve just done a quick search on AW and discovered loads of girls in my area are charging roughly ?10 - 20 lower than this! Some 2 hour incalls are as little as ?220 or less, I dont mind giving a little discount but surely thats underselling yourself. If I were doing a two hour booking I`d want at least ?250 for a basic GFE ( thats a ?30 discount, in my eyes, if I were usually charging ?70 per half hour ).

Also I`ve noticed an increase in women selling extras such as watersports and Anal for only ?10, or for free. Im baffled!!!!

Why have the prices been driven down? Are men not paying as much anymore?

I dont get it, Im selling my body here. I pay my hairdresser ?110 to cut and streak my hair, and dosent have to worry about weirdos, sore bits,STD`s or getting outed.

Just some food for thought xxxxx

there will be girls offering services for cheaper everywhere, especially going by what you think is a normal rate (I dont have a clue what area you are in)

i noticed when i was charging ?70 for half an hour ?120 for 1 hour and ?230 for 2 hours that a lot of the girls my age and size were cheaper, infact I was one of the more expensive and the max girls were charging was ?140ph

charge what you are comfortable with, i used to work in parlours and received what i now think was a shockingly low amount of money (I'd get ?30-?35 for half an hour and they charged ?50, and id get ?60 for a full hour! :-\), you would also be not allowed to charge more than ?10 for watersports or OWO or CIM and no more than ?20 for anal in one place!!

i think a lot of girls are starting up due to the lack of jobs and the ones i notice charge quite low prices like ?80 or ?90 for an hour tend to be eastern european or other foreign girls

you dont have to be the cheapest about, i was always still too busy and had to turn clients down, if the client likes you he will see you even if he has to pay an extra ?30 or so

the local punting forum is full of threads like '?200ph- is it worth it?' accompanied by many punters banging on about 'fantastic' girls you can see for ?100ph so why pay more, some also get quite petty and bitchy about former parlour girls who move on to indie and now charge quite a bit more than they were previously available for

i think some of them have lost their minds and seem to think gorgeous ladies should shag them for barely nothing- but that isnt the case and many punters will agree, there will be plenty of men willing to pay extra for you who arnt cheap skates and they are the clients you should market yourself at

i will add i agree with the other ladies you need to be realistic and find your unique selling point, mine was that i am very young slim and busty etc other ladies have different points that attract clients to them


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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #9 on: 17 August 2012, 05:17:21 pm »


Also I`ve noticed an increase in women selling extras such as watersports and Anal for only ?10, or for free. Im baffled!!!!


I always thought charging for extras was dodgy from a legal point of view?Or advertising that you charge for extras, I don't know I'm probably wrong (it happens quite a lot  ;D ).

I think it's probably easier for people just entering the industry than it is for people who've been in it for quite a while to charge a bit less. I met a woman from here for coffee once, who was just getting back in after taking a break for ten years and she was shocked at what you had to offer now, and the prices you had to offer it for. I however wasn't overly bovved, as it was just normal for me.

Casey_Kisses post make a million better points than I probably will (but bless me I'll try). From a business point of view if you're looking to maximise your earnings over a short period of time you do have to take into consideration what other people are offering and at what price. It's common sense, or The Primark approach if you will.


If you're not looking to see more than one guy a day (or even a week), then you can charge whatever you feel comfortable with if you feel that you can ride out the quiet patches without stress.

I don't know pricing can be such a contentious, personal matter. From a really detatched business point of view I can see that saying, 'yeah full service for ?50/ph' would bring in loads of customers a day - but the problem with that is I (I personally, this isn't a dig at anyone else) would probably end up having a nervous breakdown, end up sectioned and never get to spend any of the money I earned.

It's a tough one  :FF

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #10 on: 17 August 2012, 05:47:29 pm »
I always thought charging for extras was dodgy from a legal point of view?Or advertising that you charge for extras, I don't know I'm probably wrong (it happens quite a lot  ;D ).

There is nothing illegal about charging (or paying for) sex, no matter how you word it. The thing you can't do is go up to somebody in the street and say 'I'll shag you if you give me ?X', but if you invite them indoors for tea first, it's fine ;D. It's not the doing it that's illegal, it's making the offer in public that falls foul of the soliciting laws.

I think it's probably easier for people just entering the industry than it is for people who've been in it for quite a while to charge a bit less. I met a woman from here for coffee once, who was just getting back in after taking a break for ten years and she was shocked at what you had to offer now, and the prices you had to offer it for. I however wasn't overly bovved, as it was just normal for me.

Casey_Kisses post make a million better points than I probably will (but bless me I'll try). From a business point of view if you're looking to maximise your earnings over a short period of time you do have to take into consideration what other people are offering and at what price. It's common sense, or The Primark approach if you will.

If you're not looking to see more than one guy a day (or even a week), then you can charge whatever you feel comfortable with if you feel that you can ride out the quiet patches without stress.

I don't know pricing can be such a contentious, personal matter. From a really detatched business point of view I can see that saying, 'yeah full service for ?50/ph' would bring in loads of customers a day - but the problem with that is I (I personally, this isn't a dig at anyone else) would probably end up having a nervous breakdown, end up sectioned and never get to spend any of the money I earned.

It's a tough one  :FF

I do think it makes a difference whether you're in it for the long haul (and just want a steady income and a comfortable lifestyle with plenty of free time) or whether you're looking to only work for a short/specified amount of time and make a killing, whether it's to pay off a debt or to save up for something like education or earn enough money to take to your home country and set up a business or whatever - I know people in each situation and all of them have their merits.

I'm resolutely long-term, but I'm in the fortunate position of being reasonably established and always have as much work as I want without having to faff about with my prices, although I haven't put them up in a while apart from for occasional tours to places where the going rate is very different to mine and not changing them would make me look a bit strange. And all of these occasions have involved me putting my rate up, not down.

I don't see my job as that different to the hairdressers - we sell a service which involves physical contact with people in exchange for cash and I don't sell my body any more than the hairdresser sells their hands. Hairdressers have to use nasty chemicals, spend long hours on their feet, use hot and sharp appliances and be around water and electricity regularly, as well as deal with smelly people, people not turning up for appointments and then the pissing and moaning from the ones who do, especially when the poor sod doing their hair can't make them the spitting image of Rihanna because they look like Jerry Sadowitz.

It stands to reason that the more you charge the fewer enquiries/bookings you'll get and vice versa, but when you need to see twice the punters to make the same money I think you need to decide on where the happy medium is; I'm happy enough to see six, eight or ten a day when I'm touring but I don't even want that many in a week when I'm at home. And I agree with the ladies about the marketing stuff - if the OP has only looked at AW, she's going to see the cheaper ads because that's where most of them are - it doesn't mean that nobody is charging more elsewhere - if I looked at nothing but fancy agency sites (and I have met punters from other countries who had done this upon arriving in London) I could be forgiven for thinking that ?200 or ?300 per hour was the 'going rate', which isn't true either.

Some ladies also prefer shorter bookings and more of them, whilst others would rather do fewer and for longer - how you want to work is a big decider in pricing and provided everybody's happy there's room for us all to do our own thing :). The one thing I don't concern myself with (and I can only speak for myself) is what others are charging and/or offering - as somebody else has said, there will always be somebody cheaper and that way just lies madness. I don't even know who else is on AW in my town, and I don't care - it isn't going to affect me and I can't see the point in worrying about things I have no control over.

Actually one other thing I don't do is ever set foot in hairdressers - is that seriously how much it costs? :o

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #11 on: 17 August 2012, 07:07:25 pm »
I have in the past put my prices down.It made no difference what so ever.

A lovely reg of mine noticed and actually advised me not to sell myself short,it can attract the wrong kind of client too.

Am sticking to my prices,think am very middle of market at a 140 an hour and attract the client I like at that price.

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« Reply #12 on: 17 August 2012, 10:38:00 pm »
Does everyone charge extras ? Like extra for watersports ect?

I do watersports as part of my fee but only for 1.5hr apps or more??

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #13 on: 17 August 2012, 10:43:05 pm »
No I don't charge any extras.

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Re: WTF Has everyone put their prices down?
« Reply #14 on: 17 August 2012, 10:43:37 pm »
Does everyone charge extras ? Like extra for watersports ect?

I do watersports as part of my fee but only for 1.5hr apps or more??

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I do for anal and watersports, but only because they both require extra preparation time and I don't see why Punter A who wants neither should pay the same as Punter B who wants either/both when the latter is taking up half an hour more of my time.

Punter A wants an hour and thus takes up about an hour and a half of my time allowing for getting ready. Punter B wants an hour and thus takes up about two hours of my time allowing for extra getting ready. More time costs more money, and I could otherwise be spending that time doing something else.