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The new grunternet
« on: 25 August 2010, 01:41:34 am »
Hi all,

For anyone that reads Grunternet on a regular basis, the worst grunters have moved! The banned grunters eg. the bankers (without the b but with a w) have made their own site where they can moan, be mean, bitter, twisted,  grumpy,rancid etc to their hearts delight. Only recently set up, but guessing it will be around for a few months.

So gals, you might want to keep an eye on it, they tend to hate prossies

ukpunting.com - apparently where "punting comes first"

Saafe has already been mentioned on there, not in a nice fashion... hence I wont be posting in my working name on here any longer.

Oh and this place comes with a health warning. It isn't a  pleasant read. They seem to be contemplating FR's on there too, no idea if we will have the opportunity to go on a no reports list.

« Last Edit: 25 August 2010, 11:36:25 pm by amy »

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #1 on: 25 August 2010, 01:44:17 am »
LaLa

I am going to put this in plain english, if we are linked, so excuse me. I could not give a FUCK what eejits like that have to say. Nor should you.

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #2 on: 25 August 2010, 01:50:26 am »
No grunters cant tell me what to think but nor can prossies!!!

I only put this up so ppl are aware.  Knowledge can sometimes be power, and if i'm being talked about on a board by tw@ts they like that you wouldn't trust to look after an ant I want to know. I am sure some of them are probably responsible for recent pranks on WG's...

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #3 on: 25 August 2010, 01:52:57 am »
Hey, calm down. But if you are worried about posting on a advice forum under your working name because of a link, they are having an effect. Apologies for the prossie advice.

Nah, had to come back. Check yourself- you just posted on a public forum. Expect feedback and apologies really that I am not scurrying off to change my user name- I tend to stand by my opinions.
« Last Edit: 25 August 2010, 01:57:00 am by Lucy Chambers »

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #4 on: 25 August 2010, 01:59:04 am »
Well I've already seen it, but since the mention of SAAFE was originally by someone who is clearly unable to either identify or comprehend the difference between SAAFE the site and SAAFE the forum (where individual members express their views and opinions and represent only themselves, in the same way as works on every other message board), I didn't really think it was worth a mention.

This site is not intended for them, and their site is not intended for us - unlike some I noticed, I personally don't feel the need to join every punting board in Christendom and wave my knickers about in case some lone punter has forgotten I exist. They also seem to be going for the record in trying to childishly crowbar the words 'prossie' and 'prossies' as many times as possible into every sentence, for reasons I have yet to understand, or give a f*ck about - leave them be, bless 'em. God knows we hear enough punter-bashing on here (and I'm not talking about the genuinely deserved warnings and grievances, more the ridiculous generalisations which pop up from time to time and make us all look like selfish, mercenary bitches and therefore no better than them).

I won't hold my breath waiting for anything from here to be quoted either accurately (including regarding completeness) or in a relevant context, and I strongly advise posters to carry on as before - the forum has always been publicly accessible and none of the people who can read your comments now couldn't read them a fortnight ago.

As a sidenote (and I am not directing this at the OP, since she certainly was not the first person to use the term), making 'witty' references to 'Grunters' or 'Grunternet' doesn't exactly cover us all in glory, either.

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #5 on: 25 August 2010, 07:52:01 am »
Thankfully, it's not our job to police the Internet - I'm sure we all have too many willies to tend to really have time for that.

I know it can sometimes be a nauseating worry thinking about the idea of being bashed on an online forum, because for us, it's not just our personal selves that might get picked apart by some meanies but also our work lives that might be negatively affected.

However, if someone's going to open a forum that becomes notorious for prossie-bashing, then I'm not sure if they might not somewhat be defeating their own purpose. And if that is not their purpose, as Punternet's never was, then it'll just be a much-needed space for certain punters to go to and say whatever they feel needs saying. I do not read any punter forums as they make me mental and actually, reading them is bad for my business as even seeing one comment by a troll or other mentally unstable person (not the majority, usually) can make me not want to work (yes, I'm a sensitive soul really!).

So I recommend to all sex workers not to read these sorts of forums if they are offended by them. And like Amy said, if we sit about here talking sh*t about them, we aren't any better. I love SAAFE because it's been around longer than I have and has never really been distracted from it's ultimate purpose of helping newbies and not-so-newbies. It's almost always a very mature, measured and calm place - almost unheard of for the Internet! We've achieved a miracle. ;)

One thing that helps me feel zen again is remembering that the sorts of punters who might enjoy bashing me (or any escort like me) are not my clients. They're not the men I'm advertising to, they're not the men I'm talking to on the phone, they're not the men I'm having sex with. So we can all just stay a million miles away from each other and let each other get on with whatever we enjoy doing. The vast majority of clients, after all, have very busy lives (work, family, etc) and don't actually spend time online discussing prossies. It's important not to let a few odd souls get the best of you - focus on your own clients and you'll quickly remember what's important and what's not. :)
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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #6 on: 25 August 2010, 11:16:52 pm »
No grunters cant tell me what to think but nor can prossies!!!

I only put this up so ppl are aware.  Knowledge can sometimes be power, and if i'm being talked about on a board by tw@ts they like that you wouldn't trust to look after an ant I want to know. I am sure some of them are probably responsible for recent pranks on WG's...

Thats a bit much. The new forum seems to be more about a reaction to one of the pnet mods with a bit of the old 'punternet should be for punters' mentality thrown in. Saafe is aimed at providers and so why shouldn't there be a forum aimed at punters.   

I am sure it will attract the odd irrational poster but dont all forums? If their mods are even half as good as the saafe girls, they will be alright.

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #7 on: 25 August 2010, 11:51:55 pm »
Thats a bit much. The new forum seems to be more about a reaction to one of the pnet mods with a bit of the old 'punternet should be for punters' mentality thrown in. Saafe is aimed at providers and so why shouldn't there be a forum aimed at punters.    

I am sure it will attract the odd irrational poster but dont all forums? If their mods are even half as good as the saafe girls, they will be alright.

I agree, although I would have assumed it was at least going to be punters only since I'd believed (obviously wrongly) that part of the point was to provide somewhere for punters who don't like mixed boards - from the little I've seen the main function seems to be for people to a/ moan about Punternet and b/bang on about Adultwork. Curiouser and curiouser.

However, since their mods are allowing threads to stand after being started with the sole purpose of misrepresenting and slagging off this site (the particular bottom feeder who posted the thread starter cannot really be blamed since no-one would reasonably expect any different from him, and the RSPCA will no doubt deal with him as soon as they can figure out to which genus he belongs), I have removed their link from the OP here.

This site was set up and continues to exist in order for it to provide support and advice for potentially vulnerable workers, and to industriously comb its forum for random snippets to cut and paste which paint us all as deceitful, man-hating witches who believe that prossies can do no wrong (and any one who has read even a hundredth of the forum would know this not to be true) is spiteful, cowardly and deeply shitty. Therefore, they will not be getting any more traffic from us.


EDIT: Since posting this last night, I have received an apology from the moderator of UK Punting and an assurance that the offending threads/posts have been amended and/or locked. Hopefully that will be an end to it.
« Last Edit: 26 August 2010, 10:14:01 pm by amy »

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #8 on: 27 August 2010, 06:31:14 am »
I've said it before...but I just cannot deal with the punting forums. On the gay sites (pardon the tangent) its not just the grunters, its the other escorts.

I recently drifted into a male punter forum and instantly regretted doing it to myself AGAIN! This time, another escort attacked my thread with racist comments, which were not taken kindly by the other posters. But in the same thread, the grunters and a couple other escorts were accusing me of being negative and making comments like "maybe its just you" when I mentioned how the business in a certain city had gone downhill since I began there in 2008.

Its like, why ruin my day with that non-sense? I cant even speak my mind and they be jumping all over me...and then, the escorts are just as bad. Im on tour...I dont need that bullshit.

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Re: The new grunternet
« Reply #9 on: 27 August 2010, 08:30:53 am »
No grunters cant tell me what to think but nor can prossies!!!

I only put this up so ppl are aware.  Knowledge can sometimes be power, and if i'm being talked about on a board by tw@ts they like that you wouldn't trust to look after an ant I want to know. I am sure some of them are probably responsible for recent pranks on WG's...

Thats a bit much. The new forum seems to be more about a reaction to one of the pnet mods with a bit of the old 'punternet should be for punters' mentality thrown in. Saafe is aimed at providers and so why shouldn't there be a forum aimed at punters.   

If it is aimed at punters, why did I receive an email inviting me to join? I won't be.

I am sure it will attract the odd irrational poster but dont all forums? If their mods are even half as good as the saafe girls, they will be alright.