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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: PixieLove on 27 March 2015, 03:39:40 pm
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Escorting is quickly becoming a career path for me.
I have been thinking about what I could do to make this a successful business.
I have established how many clients I need a week or hours of work, to reach the targets I have in mind. As I have worked out an average of clients over the months and made realistic targets from these findings.
What I would like to know is how to make sure I have a good steady amount of clients, advice on getting regulars, whether working with agencies and being independent is a good way to secure enough clients.
I would just like to ask how to be a successful escort, as far as I know unfortunately there are no books out there or' how to guides' on this topic. However, if anyone knows one by all means advice away!
I kept myself up to date with news, I travel, read, I am always well presented, fit and discreet. I am currently with two agencies but I'm also thinking about advertising as an indie to secure more work. I am averaging 3 clients a day and I work 3 days a week.
Ideally I would like just a bit more clientele than that, perhaps 4 clients a day, or at least not to have days such as yesterday where I only had one client, which only covered the hotel cost of the day.
Sorry if there is a thread already regarding this topic some where. If there is can I please be directed there? I did perform a search but could not find anything on this topic.
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I think the one thing we need is flexibility if we work towards targets.
I have a weekly target and although I say that it'd like 2 overnights a week, sometimes it doesn't happen and I have to make up the difference with shorter bookings. Take the work when you can. Nothing is ever guaranteed so if you are strict about only working Mon - Fri you may lose out if it's a slow week and a busy weekend.
And I'm not sure (someone can correct me as I've never been agency) but don't they frown upon people being indie on the side?
Good luck x
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I'm also thinking about advertising as an indie to secure more work. I am averaging 3 clients a day and I work 3 days a week.
Ideally I would like just a bit more clientele than that, perhaps 4 clients a day, or at least not to have days such as yesterday where I only had one client, which only covered the hotel cost of the day.
If you're not already advertising as an indy, why are you paying for hotel rooms? Or have I misunderstood?
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I always work 5 days a week and sometimes 6 and 7 days a week if I haven't got any social plans at the weekend and I have a realistic target of 2 clients a day (which I always, always get) and have a limit of 3!
If you have a financial target then try and stick to it then move on, I'm working longer than I had planned because I wasted the first 2 years touring constantly and wasting so much money on expenses, I've never had it in me to see loads of guys in a day to make it worth my while!
I personally think any more than 3 would burn you out but that's just my opinion but then again if your only part time then if you can manage more....fair enough but I would start to feel sore and drained after 3 which would mean I couldn't offer the best I can!
Treat it like a proper job and proper business, go to bed at a normal time and wake up at a normal time. I set my first alarm at 7 and my second one for 7.30! I think lying in your bed till lunchtime is just a wasted day and I hear lots of girls do that!
I have set hours on my profile that I update every Sunday and I take my first client at 10am!
Be reliable unless of an actual emergency obviously!
Have an honest profile, only thing on my profile that's untrue is my age so that I show up on most searches but I have my real age in my FAQ's!
Don't be flakey!
Always be fresh and clean (So many just do back to back bookings without washing).
Always have loads of condoms, lube, wipes etc!
Work from somewhere safe and discreet!
Treat your clients well and with the utmost respect as I do with my clients although I admit I have zero tolerance and zero time for idiots so I have been known in the past to have a bad attitude although I'm not really caring what the idiots think of me, my clients are what's important to me. This is the sex industry and there are far more idiots than there are decent guys contact me hence having no time for them!
Always be uber friendly and bubbly cause even the idiots like to feel like they are fucking a person and not a robot!
Don't clock watch or rush your clients but obviously don't let people take the piss either!
Make sure your apartment and bathroom is spotless and that your clients have clean towels, toiletries etc!
Offer drinks and make them feel welcome in your place!
Have good communication!
Register for inland revenue!
Have safety measures in place!
Have a diary and write everything down so your organised, I couldn't do without mine!
Get good reviews and feedback as best you can, you'll never be able to please everyone though but reputation these days no matter what business your in is essential with online reviews!
Obviously not in that order, just things coming into my mind as I say them, if I think of other stuff....I will add to the list.
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Firsttimer
I think the one thing we need is flexibility if we work towards targets.
I have a weekly target and although I say that it'd like 2 overnights a week, sometimes it doesn't happen and I have to make up the difference with shorter bookings. Take the work when you can. Nothing is ever guaranteed so if you are strict about only working Mon - Fri you may lose out if it's a slow week and a busy weekend.
Fantastic advice, thank you for this. I have tried to expect all the work to come in on allocated days but I found extending to 3 days should help and yes even considered working over a period of more days.
The agencies I'm with were happy for me to also be independent but they assured me I would get enough work through them so I decided against it.
Taking the work when I can is sound advice.
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Miss K xXx
You are quite right, more than 3 can be difficult but as I only work 2 days it is manageable and it keeps me busy. Extending my working week to 3 days has meant I only need 3 clients and well that is much better than just being manageable and you can offer the best you can - not rushed etc
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Yes, depending on your personal situation, other commitments etc., I'd say flexibility is key. I'm lucky in that I work from home so can potentially work most times, and I think that is a big help. It's all very well having goals and targets, but meeting them can be another matter.
Personally, I'd say boundless reserves of patience are a useful trait, plus the ability to not get wound up by timewasters (something I struggle with...) Otherwise, just being practically prepared, friendly, welcoming etc., and screen, screen, screen!
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Miss K xXx
You are quite right, more than 3 can be difficult but as I only work 2 days it is manageable and it keeps me busy. Extending my working week to 3 days has meant I only need 3 clients and well that is much better than just being manageable and you can offer the best you can - not rushed etc
Well that would depend on whether you're talking 3 times 30mins or 3 times 3 hours...
Ors good to talk quantity but that's not everything
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Miss K xXx
You are quite right, more than 3 can be difficult but as I only work 2 days it is manageable and it keeps me busy. Extending my working week to 3 days has meant I only need 3 clients and well that is much better than just being manageable and you can offer the best you can - not rushed etc
Well that would depend on whether you're talking 3 times 30mins or 3 times 3 hours...
Ors good to talk quantity but that's not everything
It's good to have targets and to push yourself but keep in mind that burnout is much more likely to creep up on you if/when you're over worked (or in some cases you might just need a break, regardless of the numbers) and you'll end up having to take time out to recover.
Recently I had some financial targets I was eager to meet so I overworked myself to the point where I wasn't enjoying my work anymore, so I ended up having a month off. Now I try and stick to a 2-3 clients a day, if I'd done that in the first place I'd have been better off than earning a big wage for 2 weeks, but then nothing for a month whilst I recovered.
So my advice is to pace yourself, and don't push yourself too hard. Turn your work phone off when you're not working, that way your time stays as yours!
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Miss K has told you all you need to know babe xx
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Im trying to start doing more incall days and tours, but they will all be Wednesday to Friday, yes I am probably losing out but I dont want to be working 24/7, plus workable hotels are limited where I am.
My tips are.
Dont try to be available all day every day, as you cant please everyone and will only burn yourself out.
Be a good actress (even if it's as simple as not cringing when you get someone you wouldnt normally have sex with).
Be polite even when they are arseholes ;D
Charge what you believe you are worth, dont worry what everyone else is charging.
Keep your ads updated.
Have security measures in place.
Always get the money first.
Dont be afraid to stop a booking.
Wear what you are comfortable in.
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To sum it up: apart from health, hygiene, tidiness etc...
Make sure you make them respect your boundaries above all:)
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Oh and if your going to be advertising on AW, you need to update your profile even if it means adding a full stop somewhere to put you back to the top of the list, I try to update mine as often as possible but usually only manage maybe 4 or 5 times a day x
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Or in my case, remember to log in to Adultwork :D
To patience, I'd add compassion and tolerance as well as the ability to stay calm and unfazed no matter what (or at least look like you are).
As above; always get the money first and just as important, don't be greedy. A good number of our warnings threads wouldn't be there if everybody followed those two ('I'll pay you a squillion quid for half an hour, honest, but I can't get it until the morning, etc etc').
Having no sense of smell - also good ;D.
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Or in my case, remember to log in to Adultwork :D
To patience, I'd add compassion and tolerance as well as the ability to stay calm and unfazed no matter what (or at least look like you are).
As above; always get the money first and just as important, don't be greedy. A good number of our warnings threads wouldn't be there if everybody followed those two ('I'll pay you a squillion quid for half an hour, honest, but I can't get it until the morning, etc etc').
Having no sense of smell - also good ;D.
Lol! Just a reminder though, cash and cash only:) I'm thinking about those few girls here who had the very bad idea of accepting bank transfers (warnings section). So cash and upfront. And a good reliable security buddy of course.
As to the no sense of smell... I just put things into my FAQs. Shower, bareback, smoking, outfits, my hours... I try to anticipate and put things into my FAQs. Well of course I know perfectly well that most of them won't read anyway but hey...!
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Try and keep time for myself and don't work 7 days a week for months on end, so I don't burn out.
Give the best service I possibly can for every booking, be it a 15min quickie or a 3 hour booking.
Make sure the client leaves satisfied, gets the service they expected (and more if I can ;)).
Get repeat business (regulars).
Be reliable, punctual, clean, groomed etc.. (professional basically).
Be friendly, polite, and make your client feel special and at ease.
Be the best I can be in every booking basically ;)
Oh yeah, and make a lot of money in the process (which all of the above will probably ensure you will), as it keeps my motivation
up, which in turn makes me give a better service..! :)
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Make sure you keep enough money aside for raining days and holidays.
I have had proper flu for 3 solid weeks and if we do not work there is no cash.
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Learn to make a note of timewasters/noshows,arseholes etc on your phone so you filter them out from booking and try not to answer silly texts or emails just block.It keeps you calmer and happier and a happy calm escort works better and in turn gets more bookings.
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And make sure you count the money before you put it away out of sight (in another room if possible). Many times I have heard of clients shortchanging girls their cash, if they give you a sealed envelope check it first to make sure it contains the correct amount of money and not note sized pieces of paper.
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And make sure you count the money before you put it away out of sight (in another room if possible). Many times I have heard of clients shortchanging girls their cash, if they give you a sealed envelope check it first to make sure it contains the correct amount of money and not note sized pieces of paper.
I had a guy in Belfast once try to pay me with photocopied ?20 notes. Not even photocopied on both sides and was cut up bits of A4 paper. Pathetic! X
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And make sure you count the money before you put it away out of sight (in another room if possible). Many times I have heard of clients shortchanging girls their cash, if they give you a sealed envelope check it first to make sure it contains the correct amount of money and not note sized pieces of paper.
I had a guy in Belfast once try to pay me with photocopied ?20 notes. Not even photocopied on both sides and was cut up bits of A4 paper. Pathetic! X
What a chump. I assume you told him to GTFO.
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Make sure you keep enough money aside for raining days and holidays.
I have had proper flu for 3 solid weeks and if we do not work there is no cash.
This is huge. If you are always living hand-to-mouth and get caught out short of cash, unable to pay your rent, you will be tempted to accept a booking from anyone who calls. Always make sure you are in a position of being able to say "no."
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And make sure you count the money before you put it away out of sight (in another room if possible). Many times I have heard of clients shortchanging girls their cash, if they give you a sealed envelope check it first to make sure it contains the correct amount of money and not note sized pieces of paper.
I had a guy in Belfast once try to pay me with photocopied ?20 notes. Not even photocopied on both sides and was cut up bits of A4 paper. Pathetic! X
What a chump. I assume you told him to GTFO.
Of course I did lol xx
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I hope this helps; http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=26571.0
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=19169.msg138789#msg138789
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=17928.msg132144#msg132144
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=13941.msg110519#msg110519
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=15042.msg117932#msg117932
I wanted to know the same thing!!!
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I hope this helps; http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=26571.0
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=19169.msg138789#msg138789
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=17928.msg132144#msg132144
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=13941.msg110519#msg110519
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=15042.msg117932#msg117932
I wanted to know the same thing!!!
Thank you for this thread Lady Rose xxx
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Most important thing in my view- ALWAYS rely on your instinct. If you have a twinge of doubt about a client don't see him. You may turn down a nice man, but really it's not worth getting a nasty one.
Going against all other advice here I've never had daily, monthly or weekly targets. The danger of these is that you run the risk of seeing someone you feel iffy about or don't like just to meet those targets and that's when you get horrid clients or are doing ones who may not be unsafe but are just yucky or hard going and too many of them will make you feel shit about the job.
I personally don't find this industry very predictable. Saying I'll work 3 days and do 2 clients a day (or whatever) has never worked for me so may not work for you. You only have to look at the Is it quiet at the moment? thread to see some women have bad days and bad weeks. I do too, and it took a while to realise sometimes this is just how it is and there's nothing you can really do to get instant bookings. It's a horrible feeling thinking noone wants you, but I know now that often a shit week is followed by a good one or you suddenly get one who books for 4 hours and then comes in 30 minutes and sends you away and you realise you have just made a ludicrous amount of money for not a lot of effort.
Don't be intimidated by those on here who earn a fortune and are always busy- some women are, some aren't. Do what works for you and don't compare yourself to others. We all fit into different markets and niches and have different types of clients and regulars and can work different numbers of times and hours.
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One who is good at her job teamed with one who is business savy and spends at least an hour a day putting ads out on every respectable crevice of the internet.
Arguabley one who offers a selection of kinks to be honest to be top of top really so not really hugley important you can be a busy girl without kinks.
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I don't think you need to spend that much time every day on advertising to be successful. It also depends how much work you actually want.
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And make sure you count the money before you put it away out of sight (in another room if possible). Many times I have heard of clients shortchanging girls their cash, if they give you a sealed envelope check it first to make sure it contains the correct amount of money and not note sized pieces of paper.
I had a guy in Belfast once try to pay me with photocopied ?20 notes. Not even photocopied on both sides and was cut up bits of A4 paper. Pathetic! X
Fucking hell!
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I knew a kid back home who actually got away with counterfeiting notes by photocopying them. He'd make double-sided copies (took him a while to perfect that) and trim them carefully and then insert them into the machines at the train station that made change. He actually survived on this for a while (in a grubby, squatter/punk rock sort of way). Unfortunately for him, he had the best luck with one particular batch that he made a great many of and so the inspectors were able to pin ALL of them to him when they caught him because they all had the same serial number. He went to jail.
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I knew a kid back home who actually got away with counterfeiting notes by photocopying them. He'd make double-sided copies (took him a while to perfect that) and trim them carefully and then insert them into the machines at the train station that made change. He actually survived on this for a while (in a grubby, squatter/punk rock sort of way). Unfortunately for him, he had the best luck with one particular batch that he made a great many of and so the inspectors were able to pin ALL of them to him when they caught him because they all had the same serial number. He went to jail.
That's interesting. I thought the machines all checked the metal insert we have in banknotes these days.
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I wouldnt set weekly targets, thats just lumping added pressure on yourself that you can do without and also setting yourself up to fail if its too high. You cannot control the number of bookings that come in, if someone wants to see you they will if not they wont, its that simple.
Advertise everywhere, set up a website as this gains you access to free advertising etc. I know some only advertise in certain places but even if a place is a busy one to advertise in that doesnt mean it always will be. People sell directories, close them, move on, become disinterested so stop updating, all sorts of things can go wrong by having limited advertising mediums.
Do what you say on your own tin.
Dont advertise something you are not or dont offer
Be clean
Have a clean apartment
Find little ways to make the guy feel special, even ice in their drinks in the summer is a nice surprise for a guy especially if he usually uses agencies as they dont do those little things.
Dont be a blatant clockwatcher
If they ask for something you can provide make sure you do
Always be friendly towards them until they give you a reason not too and even then try to smile as you are showing them out the door
Answer calls, texts and emails as fast as you can, this for some reason is important to them.
Just be you and treat the like people with needs, its all most of them want, to be treated nicely and honestly.
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I knew a kid back home who actually got away with counterfeiting notes by photocopying them. He'd make double-sided copies (took him a while to perfect that) and trim them carefully and then insert them into the machines at the train station that made change. He actually survived on this for a while (in a grubby, squatter/punk rock sort of way). Unfortunately for him, he had the best luck with one particular batch that he made a great many of and so the inspectors were able to pin ALL of them to him when they caught him because they all had the same serial number. He went to jail.
That's interesting. I thought the machines all checked the metal insert we have in banknotes these days.
This was another country and a couple of decades ago. :)
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Targets
My target is set annually it keeps me focused throughout the whole year to work towards something challenging but achievable I then break it down into monthly weeks daily etc.
Focus
Keep focused on the goal and set out how you are going to make it achieveable
Sustainability
Make sure you do everything possible to ensure that you are sustainable as an Escort working well in advance with marketing I like to be at least 3 months ahead in terms of what I am planning for my marketing. For my current website I was planning 8 months ahead and my marketing plan runs into the next 2 years.
Regular Clients
The most important factor for me is my regulars treat everyone well that visits you and build up a good solid base of long term regulars.
Technology
Understand how The internet works and how to promote visibility, the most imporatant thing I have learnt is SEO.
Treat the business as a business but dont lose sight of the personal level that it operates on
Attitude
A positive good attitude towards your clients and their needs
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I'm not sure I see the point of targets - I mean, I know you need to have an idea of how much you need to earn each month or year sustainably to live, and to think about increasing your marketing or somehow altering your working practices if you're regularly falling short, but to me targets would only be of value if I was over-run with men wanting to see me. For example, if I only needed 5 x 1h bookings a week to live comfortably, then I wouldn't kill myself seeing 15 on a regular basis.
But judging by the comments on the 'Slow' thread, not many of us have that luxury. Not quite sure I've phrased my thoughts accurately, but target just doesn't seem to be quite the right word for me, because up to a point at least, we're at the whim of potential clients.
Otherwise, I do think a professional attitude with regard to all aspects of the work is important.
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I think a target can be a way of maintaining motivation and not just wandering off to the shops when the phone goes quiet. When I tour my first target is to cover my costs as quickly as possible. Then I think of how to make as much money as I think made it worthwhile to go away from my home for a few days and I aim for it. It keeps me focused.
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I must admit I do try and aim for a weekly target as otherwise it is all too easy to drift for me and lose focus.
I need to keep motivating myself which can be a challenge self-employed as we don't have colleagues nearby as such to spur us on - which is why this website is truly valuable!
Setting a weekly target keeps me feeling more on top of my job if you see what I mean.
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I must admit I do try and aim for a weekly target as otherwise it is all too easy to drift for me and lose focus.
I need to keep motivating myself which can be a challenge self-employed as we don't have colleagues nearby as such to spur us on - which is why this website is truly valuable!
Setting a weekly target keeps me feeling more on top of my job if you see what I mean.
I've got to admit a weekly or even monthly target IMO is doable. I know we are all different but when I was whoring if I had to set an annual target and perhaps not meet it then I would find it soul destroying.
With the current economic climate and on reading the "slow at the minute ...." Thread I think it would do the same to many.
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Centering the client so they smile treating with respect. Treating them like a human being with feelings.
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Centering the client so they smile treating with respect. Treating them like a human being with feelings.
yes defiantly
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I think the ladies have covered most points but if you are curious, there is a post on UK Punting that I came across which details what guys believe to be a successful escort meeting. Take it with a pinch of salt though, you know what those guys can be like!
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Communication - Answer calls / emails / texts as soon as possible. Even if you miss a call, message them and say thank you for the call and detail a time they can call back. You might have missed a spur of the moment booking, but they will remember your consideration and try again in the future. Always send confirmation message the morning of the booking. You may have 5 bookings that day, but they are likely only seeing one escort, make them feel special. Plus if they don't get back to you, then you can fill the booking time asap.
Be grateful - Always thank new clients for getting in touch in the first place "thank you for contacting me, thank you for your interest in me, thank you for your message / call". Always thank clients for visiting you when they depart too. Leave AW feedback.
Ensure you know exactly what they are looking for - and if you offer it, then provide it to the highest standard!
Remember details! - If they have told you something about themselves, their likes, etc, them remember it! I always try and remember one detail about a client so that when they visit next time, I can slip it into conversation so they know that I have previously been paying attention and don't just churn them out. I remember client music and clothing tastes and put something appropriate on for their booking.
Offer to hang jackets / coats and put back on for client when they are leaving.
Offer drinks.
Provide toiletries and fresh towels.
But most importantly - BE YOURSELF - as fakeness is spotted a mile away and is not appreciated.
The key to my service is making the client feel that he is the only client I am seeing that day and that my time and attention is absolutely devoted to him during our time - it works for me. I am almost always booked for every hour that I am working and have bookings placed as far as a month in advance!
Hope this helps.