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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #15 on: 10 May 2012, 11:12:30 am »
To answer the question in the title :) someone who doesn't think that what they charge makes them better than anyone else.

Like 'premium', 'high class' is marketing speak for 'expensive', but in both cases there's a belief out there that it also means 'better'. A few minutes looking at a review site (or remembering the phase men's lifestyle magazines went through a few years ago of paying the costs of a member of their staff to book someone for an article) would prove otherwise in terms of the client experience.

From the escort's point of view, you are going to see far fewer clients with an expensive persona, but that's what some people want.

So, yes, if you want to create PrincessKate to go alongside MissKylie, go for it. (Photo editing software makes it a lot easier to appear flawless on a website, of course.) Just don't rely on it for all your income and don't buy into the 'better' myth.
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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #16 on: 10 May 2012, 11:59:46 am »
I don't think it's about being "better" at all. The simple fact is that it is an effective marketing term. I use it on my site and get 5-10 hits a day from people searching "high class escort" in some variety on the search engines.

It's not something to get our pretty lace panties in a twist about. It's just one form of search engine optimisation.

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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #17 on: 10 May 2012, 12:40:43 pm »
Personnally I love a bit of healthy debate. One thing most of us seem to agree on is that its to do with using marketing in a certain way. Whether you agree or diagree with certain definitions is up to the individual. After all it'd be a pretty boring world if we all agreed with each other!

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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #18 on: 10 May 2012, 01:13:48 pm »
Hmm... when I was working full time most of my clientele preferred intelligent girls, a few of them would only see girls with degrees.  I don't have a degree but I'm well read/travelled so I usually got away with it.  I didn't charge 400/hour though.

A friend of mine went to a party once where a lot of the girls were charging ?4,000 for an overnight.  She's pretty but she felt overwhelmed by the attractive girls there.  I think most were Russian models.  It's odd models can charge so much, as most clients seem to feel that models are too skinny for their liking.
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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #19 on: 10 May 2012, 01:22:55 pm »
Total twaddle re 'high class' just 'big egos' ........................................

Have you got anything against high class escorts? Or have I misread you.

I have NOTHING against prostitutes, not even ones who call themselves High Class, I just think they are females who are feeding their own egos and not necessarily 'high class'.  That was all I meant.

I know a femme who calls herself 'high class' ............... charges ?60 for 30 mins (with special offers cheaper) ............. and who has a ticket on herself and if you really know her (I do) she is anything but a 'Lady' and I don't believe intelligence is a must - though it does help at times to be able to carry out a decent conversation ................ but what is classed as decent conversation.  Everyone has a favourite topic ................ mine being sport - football or snooker but would a guy realise I knew anything about sport ............. I dont know, others may want to talk about politics and I can't think of anything more boring - infact  I voted for the first time in 30+ years last week, so I think that sorta proves my point.

Like Mellow says, a good healthy debate is good, so long as no one takes it personally.

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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #20 on: 10 May 2012, 04:27:08 pm »
For me I think it's about looking into the future. At this point in time I just would not be suitable. Firstly I definitely don't have the type of body that would be required and secondly I want to go back to college and do a course in beauty therapy which is something I have always wanted to do and I think it's important to have something under you're belt and I think I could be easily distracted. Say a couple of years down the line though I think it's something I do have the potential for. I only see about 6 clients on average in a week anyway (sometimes less out of choice) so to earn triple what I do and only see on average say 3 a week would be something that would really appeal to me.

What do you think the agency cut is?

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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #21 on: 10 May 2012, 05:55:15 pm »
There is certainly a market for the 1,500 a couple hours booking. They may only do 2 bookings a week but make a nice living. These girls are not older than 30, tall, flawless and with perfect slim figures ( the 1,500 an hour hooker has a short life spam unfortunately). They tend to be models (as in: real models), playboy bunnies or wanna-be actresses who've been on a couple movies. And yes, they dress to the 9's (meaning: they spend A LOT of money on expensive and designer clothes) and grooming in general. So yes, they exist. But they're still on their knees giving head in exchange for money at the end of the day and sometimes doing some very humilliating stuff as the problem with paying so much is that guys feel entitled to anything (that includes BB). I don't think that means "having more class" than the average WG who charges less.

Still...2,000 for 2 hours would be niiiiceeee... ;D
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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #22 on: 10 May 2012, 06:18:37 pm »
I don't think it's about being "better" at all. The simple fact is that it is an effective marketing term. I use it on my site and get 5-10 hits a day from people searching "high class escort" in some variety on the search engines.

It's not something to get our pretty lace panties in a twist about. It's just one form of search engine optimisation.

Completely agree. I am with two agencies that market themselves as 'high class' and 'elite' agencies, and refer to myself as that on my independent website, too. I've read posts on other threads on this forum that would lead me to believe that some WGs have a chip on their shoulder about those who choose to market themselves as 'high class'. By no way whatsoever am I trying to 'feed my ego'! Thats really rude to suggest that. I'm sure we could all find things we'd change in one anothers marketing. The beauty of this industry is that we come in all shapes, sizes and ages. We choose to market ourselves in different ways, too, some have boobs and bits out, others cover up, some write smutty blogs, etc. We all have our own personal opinions on what us and others choose to do, but as long as I feel like I am portraying myself in my agency profile and personal website as to how I feel I come across in bookings then I'm happy. I sometimes ask clients feedback on my photos and profile content, and some offer it, as I like to know what attracts them to choose to see me, especially with the nice ones as they're the ones who I want to please and would like to return! I am a curvy size 12, so at the moment am filling a little niche amongst my slimmer agency colleagues!x
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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #23 on: 10 May 2012, 06:37:10 pm »
Pussycat you have misunderstood the reference to egos, at least in the posts from myself and lady lust.  We are both clearly talking about the egos of the clients

Personnally I think its both unnecessary and unpleasant to say that any wgs on this forum may have a chip on their shoulders, just because we may have an opinion that differs from yours

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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #24 on: 10 May 2012, 07:01:03 pm »
I have NOTHING against prostitutes, not even ones who call themselves High Class, I just think they are females who are feeding their own egos and not necessarily 'high class'.  That was all I meant.

Yeah, I dunno. If I used the term "high class" it would be entirely because I was looking for Google hits. Same with "educated", "independent", "British", etc - it's all about thinking, "What might a nice-but-perhaps-not-too-brave client type into a search engine?" at the end of the day.

This thread is about charging high fees, not being classy.

Yeah, I think this point always gets lost in the slightly emotive reactions many people (very fairly) have when the word "class" is used, probably because of its connotations with horrendously obnoxious things like rich people thinking they're better than poor people.

I think 'high class escorts' are just marketing themselves to wealthier clients and are therefore trying to show that they're just like them (because people often instinctively show preference for those who are similar to themselves; see: Racism, etc). They might not get better clients that way (cos, as we all know, more money does not necessarily mean more manners) but they may well end up getting more cash from each client and then having to see fewer of them. That again feeds into the whole "many clients like escorts who don't work 'too much'" thing; it's silly, because any client should know that a prossie who takes his money in exchange for sexual services is hardly going to be spending the rest of her time being a nun (and even if she did, that wouldn't necessarily make her a better person!), but a lot of this job is about playing up to certain stereotypes in the minds of potential clients.

Have any of us got, "hiya Mr Prospective Punter! I'm looking forward to taking your money, and also the money of the bloke(s) who is/are booked in right after you, because I've got a mortgage to pay and also I've promised myself a takeaway tonight if I meet my weekly target earnings a day early and ooh I think I'll get Chinese food because I like sweet'n'sour chicken balls" written on our websites? No, but does that mean we are all terribly self-deluded? No, because our website/profile blurbs are - just like our entire jobs, in fact - about creating a fantasy for clients. And someone else's blurb is hardly worth getting upset about. :)
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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #25 on: 10 May 2012, 07:33:44 pm »
Mellow - this was the post I was referring to regarding girls who call themselves high class having big egos.

Plus when I have read girls who refer to themselves as high class being labelled 'delusional' amongst other things in other threads then I am entitled to give my opinion back. I completely understood the point about feeding the clients ego, and haven't disputed or given my opinion on that, but feeding my ego...no!

Total twaddle re 'high class' just 'big egos' ........................................

Have you got anything against high class escorts? Or have I misread you.

I have NOTHING against prostitutes, not even ones who call themselves High Class, I just think they are females who are feeding their own egos and not necessarily 'high class'.  That was all I meant.

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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #26 on: 10 May 2012, 07:45:11 pm »
Fair point in your last post about egos Pussycat; I was on my phone and couldn't be assed to trawl thro the whole of the thread so muddled up what some people had said.  But I'm not gonna comment on what has or hasn't been said on other threads about this cos its not relevent here.

I should've just spoken for myself I guess and think I'll steer clear of threads which catch me when I'm a bad mood in the future.
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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #27 on: 10 May 2012, 08:07:48 pm »
I'd love love love to charge ?1000 ph if I thought I could get away with it  :D

I agree with those who have said it's nothing to get worked up about - it's just a marketing tool / google search optimization.

I guess if you charge average rates you will open your services to a bigger market, but have to work for longer hours to get the same amount of cash as someone who charges really high rates and is marketing themselves to the richer punters (and in my experience, richer does not mean more respectful). Some people (me included) like to be kept busy though and don't have patience to wait for the big money bookings to come through. The effort and money you would have to put into your appearance is a consideration too, for e I can't be arsed  ;D but if you are someone who takes great care of having a flawless appearance anyway in general then it would be easier to maintain.

We are all doing the same thing at the end of the day, I don't have a problem with anything anyone writes / advertises to optimize their income. It's sort of like putting "best blow job in the whole area!" on your profile (I've seen loads of profiles say this) - obviously we don't KNOW we give the best blow job n the area, we are just writing it to focus on our strengths and pull in the clients.

Does anyone else have a problem with charging high rates because they are afraid that clients will be more easily 'disappointed' or be expecting a devine, earth-shattering climax because they have paid so much and be disappointed? I've always kept my rates average and offered shorter bookings because I have always had a bit of a complex about living up to "the hype" that higher rates suggests?

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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #28 on: 10 May 2012, 08:33:43 pm »
Does anyone else have a problem with charging high rates because they are afraid that clients will be more easily 'disappointed' or be expecting a devine, earth-shattering climax because they have paid so much and be disappointed? I've always kept my rates average and offered shorter bookings because I have always had a bit of a complex about living up to "the hype" that higher rates suggests?

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Sums up my philosophy down to a T: ?Always under promise and over deliver?

I would much rather a guy leave thinking she was ?ok? or ?as I expected, maybe even better? instead of leaving feeling it was a let down because the goods couldn?t live up to the marketing hype.

I actually have no problem with a WG charging sky high prices and labelling themselves as ?high class? if they can truly justify such a label and feel this gives them a competitive edge. I do however have an issue with those who feel they can only do this by slagging off the rest of us because essentially the job is still the same.

I also think there can be jealousy towards high class girls. However, if you put in the effort to look like a goddess, pay out for a swanky pad in Chelsea, are happy to put up with arrogant overpaid banker-wanker types and can live up to people?s expectations, then good for you. You deserve the extra reward for the extra effort you?ve put in. Me, I?d rather have a more relaxed time, eat chocolate cake and not worry too much if I accidently pass wind infront of a customer. As such, I?m more than happy to stay in the ?average? league.  :D


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Re: What makes a REAL high class prostitute?
« Reply #29 on: 10 May 2012, 08:56:38 pm »

Does anyone else have a problem with charging high rates because they are afraid that clients will be more easily 'disappointed' or be expecting a devine, earth-shattering climax because they have paid so much and be disappointed? I've always kept my rates average and offered shorter bookings because I have always had a bit of a complex about living up to "the hype" that higher rates suggests?

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I recently upped my rates by ?50 per hour and had those same concerns. The amount of jobs I get has gone down, however, I get more longer bookings now. I changed agencies from a ?200p/h one to a ?250-?400p/h one, and their clients are very different from each other. I was worried that clients would wonder what justified the hike in price, but I felt I'd naturally grown as an escort, after a few years service! My old regulars still come back, and so far I've had no comments about the price increase. I felt expectations would be greater, but from having met ?200 and ?300 girls there really isn't a great deal of difference between some, although the agencies I'm with now market themselves slightly differently form the cheaper one, and I have more in common with the girls now than at my old one. it's just about finding the price you are happy with, and the clientele. The final straw for me with my old agency was when a client wrote in a review that I 'have a stuck up my a*** attitude', and complained about me being 'posh' (I'm have a subtle Geordie accent, never heard it being called posh before!), and the manager of that agency hinted I should dumb down a bit, and told me I had to lose weight if I was charging ?200, so I took my 'posh' Geordie accent and 'fat' backside off to become a 'high class' hooker elsewhere  ;D

I can only speak from agency experience of increasing prices, as I have always been this rate as an independent. I think clients have their own set price brackets and deviate within them, so if it's a small increase that you're considering going up by then I'd say go for it and see how it goes, maybe telling regulars you'll still be the old price for them. The way I think about it is that in the past I've had good hairdressers who have gone up a level in their salon and charge more, and if I like them I'll happily pay that bit extra. There will always be those who believe that they get better quality if they pay more, which we know is not true in this line of work, then you'll get the savvy clients who do their research and seek out the gems who are great escorts who charge less. It's the same with clothes, I'm sure we all know someone who thinks the more they pay the better they get.x