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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: Pretty Pink on 01 April 2020, 12:02:53 pm
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The past few weeks sat at home has given me a fair bit of time to reflect on work, life, everything really as I’m sure it has many others.
For me (work wise) I think I will possibly cut a day and stop thinking I neeeeeed to do 4 days when I don’t and appreciate the money I get instead of being pissed I didn’t get X amount but il also be more into my content etc cause I’m really bad with that.
At home, I’m going to slow down, take a breathe and enjoy life properly. Stop thinking everything is a chore and (cheesy I know) but if I want to go and climb a mountain then bloody climb it instead of doing it next week, month, year. I’m so routine based and I’d like to stop that.
What, if anything are you wanting to change when we eventually get back to normality?
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Great thread, PP.
Well, I realised that I just worked, worked, worked, touring relentlessly. Most were profitable but there's always a few wild cards throughout the year. I'm going to have to work hard (as are we all I am guessing) to the end of the year when we are let back out BUT I have decided to save 50% of my profits as I've realised I just don't need to spend as much as I did. So for me it is focussing on saving, not spending.
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I would be more disciplined, Set aside days for me time and turn my phone off on days off. Not go on dates with guys I've serviced unless they want to pay for my time. I was getting burnt out before the lockdown so I needed and planned a break anyway.
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I am definitely planning on saving more and maybe appreciating freedom more because this is soul destroying being told where we can and cannot go >:(.
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I think I am finally going to put a £10 on my hour rate, been meaning to do it for a while because my rate has been the same for ages. I also will spend a bit more time working more than normal to catch up with my saving loses. On a more personal note I've been scared about getting my lips and a few other 'personal improvements' for a a while but I think I am going to bite the bullet and I've been meaning to get a fitness trainer and now that I am missing the gym (the thing I weirdly miss the most!) it time.
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Im debating putting my prices up a little too, Iv been meaning to do it for a while but I feel like now with be either great timing cause il have had a good break or really bad timing cause the economy isn’t going to be the best :-\
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Im debating putting my prices up a little too, Iv been meaning to do it for a while but I feel like now with be either great timing cause il have had a good break or really bad timing cause the economy isn’t going to be the best :-\
Yea its going to be hard to predict. I think it depends on how long this goes on for. A short time at one end of the spectrum: guys been locked up for a month and now ravenous for sex. A long time at the other end: impacts on the economy, possible recession, lay offs, problems. But its so unpredictable. I just figure putting an extra 10 on after a break can't make much difference to custom numbers but would bring me in an extra few hundred a month which after this I could do with.
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Awesome idea for a thread.
This time has made me appreciate that I can actually live on a smaller earning amount if I stop buying unnecessary crap. I'll also definitely start saving...! :FF
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I'd like to say I'm going to change my work and spending habits, and mean it, but it would be a lie. I miss everything about the job, socially and financially.. just want to get back to normal and pick up where I left off.
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I'd like to say I'm going to change my work and spending habits, and mean it, but it would be a lie. I miss everything about the job, socially and financially.. just want to get back to normal and pick up where I left off.
I've noticed a spending shift away from clothes and lingerie to hardware and food, including equipment so I can do more things at home.
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I've also realised I waste sooo much money on stuff I don't need. With all the expenses of working this job, and cutting back on spending £50 a day on shopping, I've realized I can live off my other earnings.
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I miss everything about the job, socially and financially.. just want to get back to normal and pick up where I left off.
I'm with you Abi - I've made all the changes I wanted for my business already and I just want to get back to work :).
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Definitely will be increasing my price because I’m not sure there will be as many clients when we return so I don’t want them to think it’s a buyers market. Raising my prices and sticking to that. So I have to see less people for a higher return.
They are all expecting us to go mega low to attract them back. But at the end of the day if they want you they pay your rate it’s that simple.
Also they have saved loads of money not punting while this has been on so why not keep the price high as their wallets are full.
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I think I am finally going to put a £10 on my hour rate, been meaning to do it for a while because my rate has been the same for ages. I also will spend a bit more time working more than normal to catch up with my saving loses. On a more personal note I've been scared about getting my lips and a few other 'personal improvements' for a a while but I think I am going to bite the bullet and I've been meaning to get a fitness trainer and now that I am missing the gym (the thing I weirdly miss the most!) it time.
I was also thinking about putting £10 onto both my 30 minute and 1 hour rates. I’m just not sure though as I have some regulars that I think visit me because me price is reasonable for the area. I wouldn’t want to raise prices and then lose clients and have to drop down again to get them back so to speak.
I’m hoping that guys still have us on their mind once this is all over. But if the economy takes a dive maybe interest will flutter on us in general for a while.
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I have considered dropping my prices, And I will be honest about my fees. I started at £100 an hour December 2018, Feb 2019 £150 and then September 2019 £170 and December £190 and still achieved a good wage. I'm thinking back to £150 an hour.
Would appreciate opinions on rates, The price that's just right, For me £150 will get 5 bookings a day when established with FBon AW. But if you have regulars and you give s good service then before lockdown I got my £190 x 4 one day but I was in work mode lol Somethimes I'm in do the least needed mode.
I think this year profit will be lower after we spend on our office space and expenses. My home is a family home so I can't save on rent.
Sorry I do go on lol But I value the opinion of you ladies that have been WGs longer and have wisdom and experience to work out what's to come. I'm just guessing myself.
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Also they have saved loads of money not punting while this has been on so why not keep the price high as their wallets are full.
Not so sure guys will have money. Many loosing jobs, some on SSP and gov pay scheme so might be lot in deep debt.
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There is never any one answer to these situations IMO...
A). Some (otherwise financially secure) men who haven't been able to punt for a few weeks or months will go on a splurge as soon as possible, maybe seeing someone they've always wanted to see, or an escort who's normally out of their price range, as well as regulars. Other men will have no, little or low-paid work and either won't punt at all or will go for a quickie in a parlour.
B). Some men will just pay what they can afford and see who they want to see, regardless of whether her prices have gone up or down, whether she's worked during lockdown or anything else. Others will blacklist escorts who've worked or who hike their prices up noticeably once it's all over.
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I think its true that if you insist - within 'reason' - on what you charge then if they want to see you, they'll pay the extra 10/20. Those guys that set a hard limit on what they will spend and stick to it are few and far between, I think. Also, I agree that its partly psychological, if you cut your prices, it makes them feel powerful and whenever I've experimented with it I've got more guys trying to play me around, thinking I'll cave to anything.
I think though I am also guilty of trying to over finesse the formula because I always think I can 'improve' on myself and my business and daily routine and sometimes I'm like 'its ok to just plod on, you're doing ok'. Sometimes us chicas can be quite hard on ourselves :)
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The biggest issue for me hiking my price is going to be the different areas I go to. I’m currently at £80 which is competitive in most places I go but I’m on the border of too expensive for a couple of little gold mines I visit. I also can’t be bothered changing each place cause il only confuse myself ::) and I’m so stubborn I would go bankrupt before I put them back down again ;D
Decisions decisions
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I will be saving more money, I expect further waves of corona virus for the next few years and the government cannot be relied upon. Also spending more time with my family, saw a neighbour get carted off in an ambulance last week and heard they died. I live in a quiet place so if it can strike here it can strike anywhere.
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I'd like to say I'm going to change my work and spending habits, and mean it, but it would be a lie. I miss everything about the job, socially and financially.. just want to get back to normal and pick up where I left off.
Me too I'm just desperate for things to get back to normal.
Truthfully I think a this is a bit like new years, lots of people have good intentions of doing this and that, but when we do get the restrictions eased then eventually lifted life will soon revert to how it was in a lot of ways.
Although in some ways I don't think life will ever be like it was.
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I will be changing some services depending on how the virus is spreading and if there is any treatment vaccine available.
I value my health above my work, so I will be waiting and watching what happens with the virus before confirming what changes I going to make. Kissing is something I really enjoy with my clients, but is the most obvious one to consider removing, but takes the GFE away from GFE so I don't know. I may even go to covered oral. I just want O minimise any risk of myself catching it and spreading it.
I will be enforcing hand washing on arrival or they will be thrown out.
I may even retire and not come back.
The virus is a game changer. I have accepted risks with the job and always worked as safe as possible and am still standing, but as I have underlying health conditions, the virus just may be the risk that makes me quit.
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What a great thread! I was reflecting on this myself over the last few weeks.
A few months before lockdown, I made the changes to my service offerings I had wanted to for a while - I moved from full service to fetish / dom only. This did mean losing ALOT of clients and income, but I retained quite a few clients who were seeing me for fetish sessions prior who have been keeping me ticking over since the changes. Only recently had I started attracting new clients, after the drought of Xmas and Jan. So in that sense, I am happy with what I offer. I chose that transition period to take the step back (rest) that I needed as I had previously been working solidly to meet a financial goal, which I did, but as a result, my marketing had been neglected. Lockdown came right at the point I got my momentum back to smash it with my marketing. Instead I now spend my days chasing kids around and cooking up a storm in the kitchen - things I never had much time for in my usual working week.
So for me, I think there has been a definite mental switch. I can see, without the fog of work, how much my family needed more quality time together. I have also experienced living on less money, or at least to a budget - something I didn't have to do for a few years. This lockdown has also highlighted the importance of having various revenue streams that don't necessarily rely on person to person contact, such as online sessions and even content sales, which can be passive income. I've also considered creating income away from this industry from assets I already have. Seeing how versatile other businesses are being makes me see that I wasn't.
So on return, I plan on working less hours to allow for more family time and personal things, but maximising the time that I do dedicate for work. So instead of lazing about my work place for hours inbetween my sessions, use the time to create content, do webcam, do my marketing etc. I will also be more mindful of my spending in personal life - that £50 restaurant trip multiple times per week? Not necessary. Put that towards my savings.
This situation is definitely a game changer for so many people. I guess all we can do it use it to our advantage!
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When lockdown is over I will be reducing my rates
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My thoughts/plans are to get a civvy job M-F (have a couple of interviews coming up) and whore Friday evening-Saturday evening only
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I will be reducing my rates after lockdown. There are thousands of men who have lost their jobs and we are now back into a recession.
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I am in two minds as to whether to reduce my prices after lockdown. I will probably try the first couple of weeks on my usual prices then see how I go. I may do a slightly reduced hourly rate. Even if I just knock a tenner off.
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I'm not seeing anyone atm, but I've put my prices up by £100 and am receiving more interest than ever...
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A couple of regulars have lost there jobs and I think money will be tight for most people when lockdown down is over
Decided it’s to much of a risk to be escorting in the current climate and will be tough financially post lockdown
Had a video interview for a job in civvi street last week and have just woken this morning to a email with a job offer
Will be parking escorting for the time being and come back to it when conditions allow
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Certainly won’t be reducing my rates I’m bargain as it is lol
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Certainly won’t be reducing my rates I’m bargain as it is lol
I honestly don't think that anyone should be lowering their prices. There is going to be more demand than ever, right?
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I honestly don't think that anyone should be lowering their prices. There is going to be more demand than ever, right?
What people 'should' do is what's right for them and their local market; as ever, whilst 'I would...' is fine on SAAFE, 'You/They should...' is not.
My prices are fine as they are and as a lot of my custom comes from regulars and returnees I don"t plan to kick them when they're down, but if I wanted to drop them to £50 an hour or raise them to £500,.that's nobody's business but my own. If I'm busier than usual I'll earn more than usual.
If I wasn't happy with my rates I would change them regardless of the situation but I also know that if and when my hairdresser reopens they've hiked their prices by a massive chunk, I'll be finding another hairdresser.
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I think there will be an initial surge in bookings then after the dust settles we will slowly but surely be affected by the economic misery and we will have to be creative and flexible with our job.
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Sorry if this has been asked but im wondering what changes other ladies will implement when we are back to work, or if those working have already done so?
e.g. no kissing, masks etc.
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Sorry if this has been asked but im wondering what changes other ladies will implement when we are back to work, or if those working have already done so?
e.g. no kissing, masks etc.
I have given this much thought over the last few weeks and conclude that I have no idea. When I accept my first booking after (my own) lockdown I will have to stop dithering and may decide to implement some new rules but mask wearing won't be one of them. If we had to wear masks I would rather not work at all. I have medical role play outfits though and have a supply of masks so could possibly suggest that type of booking. Not all clients would want that so who knows what is going to happen.
Edit - I know the masks I have are not much use as protection. They are just the type the dentists use. I think the main concern I may have will be kissing. Can't imagine bookings without it so I have to consider this carefully.
At this time I don't really give a (insert expletive) whether I work again!
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My practices before the pandemic are exactly the same as now and I'm pretty happy with it. Shoes off in the hall. Antiseptic foam on his hands before we start and if any willy-yanking he gets a quick squirt. Towels on the linen and pillow, covered by disposable massage paper to soak up any juices. I've never offered kissing so no change there.
My pharmacist went through the specifications for the masks they sell. General barrier masks may only have a life of hours- 5 to 10 hours, after that they're not fit for purpose. Some civvies are wearing surgical masks approved for catching blood spatter in operations-they're useless for viruses. So I wouldn't let masks lull you into a false sense of security, unless you've checked the medical specs.
General barrier masks are handy on the bugger who sneezes though- as they might avoid you getting bombarded with the full force of their microscopic body fluids and gives you a second to skip out of the way.
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I'm really struggling to imagine an appointment without kissing :(
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I'm really struggling to imagine an appointment without kissing :(
Don't do them then? I've no plans to change services once I'm back at work and the only way my bookings won't include kissing will be if the punter requests it.
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A change I’m considering is going to be booking apartments instead of hotels. Just until there is a vaccine. Because I think hotels may want to know where everyone is going if the hotel bars are closed. I always felt safer in a hotel but I think I will get an apartment. Another change I considered is taking my half hour price off because I really want to do the minimal amount of work so I don’t catch anything.
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A change I’m considering is going to be booking apartments instead of hotels. Just until there is a vaccine. Because I think hotels may want to know where everyone is going if the hotel bars are closed. I always felt safer in a hotel but I think I will get an apartment. Another change I considered is taking my half hour price off because I really want to do the minimal amount of work so I don’t catch anything.
It depends how you feel about sharing Blondie (and it isn't for me, I know) but you might feel safer in an apartment if you teamed up with somebody else and booked a larger one so you both had a bedroom and a bathroom? There would be somebody there if anything happened and I doubt half a big apartment costs any more than all of a smaller one? :)
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You cannot do a booking without kissing,, that's the whole point in our job role. If we all stopped kissing then we wont have any punters visiting us! Regardless if you kiss or not, provide ow or owo it doesnt matter you can STILL catch the virus. We are basically going to be a lot closer than 2 meters apart to our punters so all this nonsense about no kissing is not going to work.
If you want to avoid this virus in our jobs the simple answer is dont do escorting anymore will be best to safe guard you against this virus. I have a degree in Biology and I can assure you that you can catch this virus by just being in close proximity to a punter so regardless if you kiss etc it doesnt matter,- this virus is airborne nothing to do with saliva or semen etc.
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I'm really struggling to imagine an appointment without kissing :(
I'm really struggling to imagine an appointment without kissing :)
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I cannot do a booking without kissing,, that's the whole point in my job role. If I stopped kissing then I wont have any punters visiting me!
Fixed that for you :)
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Thank you for putting my mind at rest. I shall just carry on as before. I only see a few people so I'm not overly worried now. I thought the mask thing veered into surgical roleplay, my gfe clients would be surprised to say the least 😆
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You cannot do a booking without kissing,, that's the whole point in our job role. If we all stopped kissing then we wont have any punters visiting us! Regardless if you kiss or not, provide ow or owo it doesnt matter you can STILL catch the virus. We are basically going to be a lot closer than 2 meters apart to our punters so all this nonsense about no kissing is not going to work.
If you want to avoid this virus in our jobs the simple answer is dont do escorting anymore will be best to safe guard you against this virus. I have a degree in Biology and I can assure you that you can catch this virus by just being in close proximity to a punter so regardless if you kiss etc it doesnt matter,- this virus is airborne nothing to do with saliva or semen etc.
That’s rubbish. You must be new.
Although I do kissing, I know of several escorts who don’t and they get on just fine.
For many clients kissing is not “the whole point” it’s just one aspect of a booking, some enjoy it, some don’t. I’ve had clients who don’t want to kiss, and that’s fine, they’re paying for my time so they can choose what we do with it within reason.
I don’t think it’s right you telling other escorts how to do their jobs or telling them not do do escorting instead of not kissing. If they want to omit something from their likes list they can and they will. It’s their god given right at the end of the day.
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A change I’m considering is going to be booking apartments instead of hotels. Just until there is a vaccine. Because I think hotels may want to know where everyone is going if the hotel bars are closed. I always felt safer in a hotel but I think I will get an apartment. Another change I considered is taking my half hour price off because I really want to do the minimal amount of work so I don’t catch anything.
I think I might do this too.
Not sure why but the idea of working in a hotel after this makes me anxious!
Apart from that I think everything will stay the same, I ask all clients to shower before bookings already and have all the body wash/hand wash etc out and displayed.
When we are back personally I’m thinking of sticking to strictly regulars for a while to ease myself in as the idea of meeting someone new just makes me nervous all over again like it’s my first day. ;D
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I’m planning to come back when government opens up the hospitality sector
Think money is going to be tight post lock down
My rates pre covid were £150ph
I will be reducing them to £120, I think £100ph would attract the wrong clientele for me
I’ve taken a regular job to get me through lock down and out of the house which has been a godsend
Won’t be changing any of my services as I personally think if your close enough to someone during sex then removing kissing, owo ect won’t make any difference
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For me, taking kissing off my list isn’t really an option (well it is obviously but not business wise) the vast majority of my regulars are GFE bookings and kissing is something I automatically do.
Decided I’m keeping to my prices for now, additional hygiene isn’t going to cost me that much and as a few have mentioned it does feel a bit like kicking them when they are down although I definately won’t be lowering.. if someone isn’t working at the moment I doubt they can miraculously find my fee just cause Iv knocked a tenner off it.
Iv added carex, more hand gel, dettol and antibac wipes to my bag and I will open the window between clients (not sure why but it just seems like a good idea ha) I think I will also wash hair and body in cared before I come home.
Sticking to hotels, hate apartments but I’m concerned that receptionists that turned a blind eye might not during the first few months, not sure how I’m feeling about that yet.
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It may sound daft, but keeping a window open is actually a very good idea, as the virus is caught more easily in poorly ventilated places.
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It may sound daft, but keeping a window open is actually a very good idea, as the virus is caught more easily in poorly ventilated places.
I thought this too - I'm lucky that my work flat bedroom has big sash windows so it's very easy to get lots of fresh air in, and it's quiet outside even at the best of times. I'm going to line a laundry basket with a bin bag for the clothes as well which is on another thread - I think that's a really good idea :)
I always had hand gel out anyway and I try to prevent them touching doorhandles and suchlike, but if I space the bookings out well I'll have ample time to clean everything thoroughly and they don't wander around my flat anyway. The only other thing I'll be doing is putting away or covering everything they might touch which is difficult to clean and sanitise adequately, so a throw over the chair in the bedroom which can be washed, the bedside lamp on 'their' side moved or put away along with any other loose stuff (box of tissues and so on) and any bits that normally lie about in the bathroom removed, although I put most away already.
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It may sound daft, but keeping a window open is actually a very good idea, as the virus is caught more easily in poorly ventilated places.
That's definitely a good idea. It's another thing that worries me about hotels, you can't open the windows properly. Ventilating hotel rooms is a struggle at the best of times but now its a real worry.
I work 100% from hotels for various reasons but hotels dont look like they are going to be a viable option for some time. It's a big worry for me as outcalls arent really an option because I dont have a car and really dont like visiting people's homes.
Im going to have to make big changes which makes me quite anxious about returning to work.
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I do this pre-pan for my deep cleans, but may do more often. I use methalated spirits to sterlise surfaces, toilet seat, doorknobs, light switches, edging and glass of shower doors. It breaks down invisible human grease and visible grubbyness. Costs a fiver from Dyas and last you looong time.
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At least plenty of handgels are now more available in the supermarkets. Not so long ago it was really hard to obtain any, at least where I live.
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I've also been complimenting raising my rates after lockdown has been lifted for the same reason posted above and I'm torn. I'll just have to wait and see. Sigh...
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At least plenty of handgels are now more available in the supermarkets. Not so long ago it was really hard to obtain any, at least where I live.
Gels were sold out locally here for weeks and weeks, luckily I had enough and also a Neal's Yard handspray which is now claiming 60% alcohol content. If you know a herbalist or aromatherapist they may be able to make a copy of the NY.
Also try work place supply websites, I now have a selection of the herbalists, NY and industrial type small sprays which I will use when I am able to go to places in which I am touching surfaces. At the moment there aren't any situations in which I need it, I haven't been inside a shop, supermarket or communal space for weeks.
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Current situation has made me think hard and look at things in a very different way. If things get back to some normality as of if and when I think I will not work my ass off as I have done in the past touring up and down the country living in a suitcase 😂😂. I will do one week on one week off and just try to look after my self mentally and physically. As in the past I have put work before anything else as was just living to work than working to live.
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Just found some disinfectant aerosol in BnM, it’s called Fabulosa. I got it in wild rhubarb and tested it out on my sofa, smells gorgeous, no chemical smell, and it’s not wet. Claims to kill 99.9% of bacteria including cold and flu (I know corona isn’t cold or flu) suitable for pretty much anything! Sofas, toilets, showers, bins, door handles and loads more.
It doesn’t replace cleaning but it’s a good little extra to have. Think it was £1 odd.. how have I not seen this before?
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I have bought a large quantity of black binliners for clients to place their clothes in prior to taking the preliminary shower. I will then dispose of the black binliner once they have left and then immediately wash my hands.
I have also put handgel all over my home so nobody forgets to use it (myself included).
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Hi everyone I am sure this has been covered somewhere. Sorry if it has. but when are you going back to working? And what measures will you take, if any, when you do to prevent catching the virus?
Would it be in-appropriate to ask clients to wear a mask and only offer massage/ oral?
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Hi everyone I am sure this has been covered somewhere. Sorry if it has. but when are you going back to working? And what measures will you take, if any, when you do to prevent catching the virus?
Would it be in-appropriate to ask clients to wear a mask and only offer massage/ oral?
You could try but I don’t know if clients would like it .
I think that if your up close and personal with someone the way we are as escorts then a mask isn’t going to give you much protection
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I think masks will be a definite no no. If we think about it clients who visit us are risk takers to start with. Insisting on masks will just put them off.
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Just as the title says folks.
Will you be wearing masks and will you be expecting clients to do the same?
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Merged with current thread, since we don't need it scattered all over the board.
Will you be wearing masks and will you be expecting clients to do the same?
No, because it would serve no purpose whatsoever and make it impossible for me to perform my service properly :).
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Thanks Amy xxxx
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Just as the title says folks.
Will you be wearing masks and will you be expecting clients to do the same?
No for exactly the same reasons as Amy.
The changes I am making include spreading out bookings, so there should be at least 36-48 hours between each client.
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How are you all working now, as in what safety precautions are you taking in bookings? I want to go back to work properly put with condoms on for even oral, maybe start tomorrow but I am scared.
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How are you all working now, as in what safety precautions are you taking in bookings? I want to go back to work properly put with condoms on for even oral, maybe start tomorrow but I am scared.
I've been anxious about starting again but I plan on doing so next week. All services will remain the same including owo with the exception of kissing. I won't be offering that. As soon as they arrive their temperature will be checked with a non contact forehead thermometer. If OK then they can stay. I know this isn't a 100% guarantee that they haven't got it, as could be asymptomatic or not showing symptoms yet but it would make me feel better knowing that I am at least doing something!
Other than that I'm insisting that they have a shower on arrival and wash hands before and after. I also have hand sanitiser and will also be washing my hands or using that whenever possible including after handling cash. I have paper towels they can dry their hands with and all their clothes/processions will be placed in a plastic box which will be sanitised afterwards along with anything they may have touched like door handles, light pull etc... I have small disposable cups which I will pre-fill with mouthwash before each client.
As for the (double) bed. I have a super king size sheet as well as a large bed spread that I will put over and wash at the end of every day
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I have started working and my routine is exactly the same as pre pan. No changes... 'mindful' hygiene.
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I think it won't make any difference whether we kiss them or not if we are going to catch it then catch it we will.
At least it is only 1 in 1700 chance now which is quite a considerable drop. If clients say they have just had a shower at home and driven straight here I just ask them to use handgel and nothing more.
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Has anyone decided on a price increase? 🙈
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I have and I did. I only see a few people a week so has worked for me!
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Oh that’s great for you I am pleased.
I’m so conflicted, on one hand I want to limit clients so an extra 10 on my half will go some way to making up for that and encourage hours but on the other I don’t want clients to think Iv seized an opportunity. Everywhere else seems to have put prices up.
If you don’t mind me asking Jadebear, did you increase all rates or just half hour?
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You could probably increase prices for a while but by October things will really slow down. Just my view. I wouldn't have them too high then.
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I'm spreading bookings out onto alternate days, one booking per day (so one booking every two days) around which I'll cam and phone chat.
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You could probably increase prices for a while but by October things will really slow down. Just my view. I wouldn't have them too high then.
That’s why I’m way overthinking it. Once my prices are up there is no way I will bring them back down. My prices are set in stone, no discounts, no offers and definately no going back once Iv increased. I keep them solid so no one can say ‘oh but you were xx last week or this offer was on last month’
I’m thinking if I see 15 clients in a week that’s an extra £150 but if I lose more than 2 clients a week because of it then I’m worst off. Can you tell I’m not a gambler? :)
My prices have been the same for 10 years and Iv never had time off so if they are going up then it needs to be now really.
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That’s why I’m way overthinking it. Once my prices are up there is no way I will bring them back down. My prices are set in stone, no discounts, no offers and definately no going back once Iv increased. I keep them solid so no one can say ‘oh but you were xx last week or this offer was on last month’
I’m thinking if I see 15 clients in a week that’s an extra £150 but if I lose more than 2 clients a week because of it then I’m worst off. Can you tell I’m not a gambler? :)
My prices have been the same for 10 years and Iv never had time off so if they are going up then it needs to be now really.
I'm the same as you - my prices are the same as they were 10 years ago however I recently increased them and (touch wood) it's going fine. I've kept good regulars at the old price but anyone new or anyone I've seen before but not overly keen on (but not bad enough to not see again!) pay the new price.
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I think this might be where I will go wrong, mine would be a blanket increase, no exceptions :-\
I’m going to try a day next week in a hotel that I think may be ok, Iv already got a great reg coming for an hour and I’d be happy with just one more in for my first day back so I might trial it out as it’s not an area I go to much.
Depending on how that goes, I might have another month to think it over if the hotel is a no no.
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Hi,
Due to the recent pandemic and no working i've used all my savings so now need to return as unfortunely bills don't pay themselves.
I am being cautious as possible (washing bedding between clients, asking clients to shower or at least wash hands and to wear masks). This means I cant preform certain services such as DFK.
I am finding a lot of my customers are very unhappy to wear a mask as it takes away from the intimacy. I can understand this but I am also trying to remain safe.
So what I am asking is, those of you who are working currently how are you staying safe and what precautions are you taking? As in my area a lot aren't working (a few touring ladies but they have nothing on their profiles regarding masks/safety precautions).
Thing is its impossible to stay one/two metres apart and signs of Covid19 can take up to 14 days to show.
Any ideas on how to stay safe I would love to hear them because half of my clients think i'm a joke asking them to wear a mask as they can't have the full service they are paying for.
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Any ideas on how to stay safe I would love to hear them because half of my clients think i'm a joke asking them to wear a mask as they can't have the full service they are paying for.
Merged. As an aside, you do know that masks are to protect others and not yourself - if you have good reason to be very concerned about catching anything then a punter wearing a mask isn't likely to make that much difference when you're going to be in close proximity in a confined space for however long.
A lot of this has been covered above, and also on the main CV thread which will no doubt be close by - some people have worked throughout, some have been stopped for months and many have been just starting back in the last couple of weeks so there's plenty to go on :).
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Hi,
Due to the recent pandemic and no working i've used all my savings so now need to return as unfortunely bills don't pay themselves.
I am being cautious as possible (washing bedding between clients, asking clients to shower or at least wash hands and to wear masks). This means I cant preform certain services such as DFK.
I am finding a lot of my customers are very unhappy to wear a mask as it takes away from the intimacy. I can understand this but I am also trying to remain safe.
So what I am asking is, those of you who are working currently how are you staying safe and what precautions are you taking? As in my area a lot aren't working (a few touring ladies but they have nothing on their profiles regarding masks/safety precautions).
Thing is its impossible to stay one/two metres apart and signs of Covid19 can take up to 14 days to show.
Any ideas on how to stay safe I would love to hear them because half of my clients think i'm a joke asking them to wear a mask as they can't have the full service they are paying for.
You have to weigh up the risks for yourself. Personally I’d never ask clients to mask up - however if they want to that’s fine with me.
I stayed off for two months and came back due to severe financial difficulties. I implemented enhanced measures around cleaning and so on. I’m seeing only one or two clients per week. I also insist every client showers which I feel is both more effective and more accepted by clients than insisting they wear masks throughout.
I dropped some services including kissing, as I worked in public health, and exchanging saliva increases the risk of any virus being transmitted. I have found this puts off clients, yes.
But frankly if they don’t give a toss about my safety measures then they are not clients I want to see.
It is difficult though as these prospective clients Timewasters insist that most escorts are not taking any precautions or making any restrictions to services. Obviously I take this with a pinch of salt but clearly a significant percentage are not.
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Iv bounced back in on my first day today and gone straight back to how I was pre pandemic. Offering all services I would usually including kissing.
If we’re going to catch it then we’re going to catch it. The only thing I am doing is wiping everything clients touch with anti bac afterwards but that’s only to protect my next client cause if the person who touched the doors had it then chances are il get it too, I’m also encouraging hours so I can see less.
Obviously I don’t want to catch it but i need some normality back and that far outweighs the risk for me.
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Most punters won't have any idea of the 'precautions' people are taking unless they're the extremely obvious ones; they don't see the extra cleaning and sanitising, they won't know how any of us are spacing bookings out or whether we're working lower volume than usual (or notice the windows being open in my case, say). So they're probably not the best people to ask :).
The only thing I am doing is wiping everything clients touch with anti bac afterwards but that’s only to protect my next client cause if the person who touched the doors had it then chances are il get it too
That's pretty much what I'm doing - I doubt I'll catch it again anyway, so I'm just trying to minimise as many opportunities for cross contamination as I can. I've either removed or covered up things that can't be washed or easily cleaned too which makes the bedroom a bit spartan, but it's a lot easier to keep tidy :D.
At the end of the day these are grown men who can assess the level of risk they're comfortable with in their individual circumstanceals and act accordingly. We can't do it for them, only for ourselves.
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So I assume some people have worked through lockdown and others are getting back to work recently.
Just wondering how you've minimised risk as I'm thinking of going back this week.
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Merged (again), since a lot of people have already answered (and in the general thread too, which won't be far away).
So I assume some people have worked through lockdown and others are getting back to work recently.
Just wondering how you've minimised risk as I'm thinking of going back this week.
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Hi everyone, I'm going back to work next week and I'm after tips on how to stay safe from Covid.
How are people managing?
Any advice greatly appreciated x
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I feel for you C C trying to work as safe as you can and any other industry you would have to wear a face mask like visting barbers, Hairdressers, beauty salon and protecting themselves and there clients.
Unfortunately this industry is something that clients never expect to play by the rules of rest of the world. Most sex workers will not insist on wearing face masks and if a lot are still offering kissing you are fighting a losing battle as the clients will just go to them.
I feel sad a lot of the time that too much is expected from clients and they think we should break the rules for them and if we do not we get less work and have to wait for the small percentage of decent clients that understand the concerns and accept it.
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This has long been the case though, clients not caring two hoots for their health or ours. Look at the amount that push for bb or attempt it, the consequences of which could be far worse than Covid. Many men really do just think with their dicks and nothing gets in the way!
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I've always taken extra precautions. As standard practise I use hydrogen peroxide 6% as a mouthwash (as I offer owo). I also use disinfectant spray all over the bedroom before and after each client as well as changing the cover, and if they manage to cum on me I will use baby wipes and hand sanizter (can't spell sorry) and then shower when they leave. I also use gloves for anal play and put condoms on toys.
I will deffo look into a towel over the pillows as I sleep in the same bed I work in (I change the sheets).
But just seeing as all other industries are using face masks and now the rules have changed so you must wear them in shops to.
I have had work and most are happy to wear the mask but aren't happy that I am not able to offer full services (DFK/69 etc).
It's so confusing knowing whats best to do. My regular clients won't see me as they don't want to wear masks and insist on full services.
But I do think your all right in saying if we are gonna catch it then not much else we can do, I mean this virus has been around for a while now.
I've also noticed a fair increase in messers and no shows as well.
I'm so glad for this forum though as i've learnt a lot from you lovely ladies.
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I will deffo look into a towel over the pillows as I sleep in the same bed I work in (I change the sheets).
I sleep at my work flat bed during the week too CC - I have separate pillows for work and they have zip up pillow protectors over them/under the pillowcases which can be washed; they're just cheap from Argos but it means that all my bedding can be kept well out of the way :).
This has long been the case though, clients not caring two hoots for their health or ours. Look at the amount that push for bb or attempt it, the consequences of which could be far worse than Covid. Many men really do just think with their dicks and nothing gets in the way!
But nobody is obliged to be concerned about their physical health? It isn't some shining star of virtue to make a big show of and it's none of anybody else's business; there certainly isn't any reason on earth why they should take any responsibility for ours.
If somebody doesn't give a fuck then that's up to them and all we can do is decide on their own acceptable level of risk and act accordingly - we all do this when we decide how we'll work and which services we'll offer, including whether we work at all. And none of it makes either us or punters any more or less 'decent' any more than smoking, drinking alcohol or eating steak do; my customers are perfectly decent people or they wouldn't be my customers.
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I know i think it has always been the case for us. We always get treated differently. I have had enquires recently some asking can i just confirm i will get proper kissing as some not doing it or out right refusing to over this CV i even had exclamation marks on the end of there message. There attitude is shocking so i blocked those ones as i can see those types being a problem in a booking anyway.
I am not offering kissing anyway if i work. My choice i know there is a risk if we are servicing them and they have CV we could easily catch it but if i offer them kissing then i guarantee i will catch it if they have it. I will try to change to other positions to and avoid missionary.
I feel on edge in general and vetting is crucial but even then they could seem nice on phone but turn horrible in a booking.
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I've received abuse, whines and moans for not offering bookings during lockdown and restricting them (including having received advance bookings) as I start again.
And some have gotten stroppy because they've gotten a negative Covid-19 test result, so they must be safe. Also had a resurgence of wanting to know when my 'fully booked' booking finishes, so I can fit them in.
When I explain that's it until my self-imposed gap is up, I get the laughs, swearing, 'I've had a negative test'.
Thankfully the people who/I have booked are patient, polite, and pleasant.
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I've had only few clients this week and loads of fucking timewasters. Next week I'm gonna lower my prices to try and bring them in. X
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I had 1 who tried to get me to take a tenner off last week so I told him I charge a tenner for listening to shite so price has gone up. He begged to pay my original fee but there was no way I was backing down. He came to see me AND paid my extra fee for him trying to negotiate ;D we actually both found it funny in the end. They arnt struggling, they’re chancers! And if they are struggling then they should be prioritising bills!
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Next week I'm gonna lower my prices to try and bring them in. X
Timewasters will know you're desperate and go bonkers on you. Everyone is hurting right now Veronica: you, me and my local coffee shop. Lowering your prices will not bring you more business.
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Timewasters will know you're desperate and will go bonkers on you. Everyone is hurting right now Veronica: you, me and my local coffee shop. Lowering your prices will not bring you more business.
Yes, it will only make it worse. Arseholes like that will only try to take more money off ::)
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I definately won’t be lowering mine either, we have enough to deal with without all the eagle eyes thinking ooooh I smell desperation, il ask for bareback ::)
I couldn’t cope with them all crying ‘but it was only £X last week’ when I put them back up either.
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what I find most annoying are those smug fuckers who call you to ask you you doing during Covid and just assume you must be desperate in your depths with shit and your career is ruined. Like no I got 5 bookings on Friday night and perhaps I’m not as wealthy as I was before the pandemic but I still don’t need your business darling and I’ll gladly tell you to go fuck yourself. I pity girls who are struggling right now and have to put up with that shit it must be hell on earth to deal with that kind of shit from the most low level of human scum who want nothing but to take advantage of people who are already at a low point in their life due to a shitty pandemic that has absorbed their income.
I would second not lowering your prices. I’ve kept my rate the same since day one. Lowering your prices is going to encourage Timewasters big time and the new price you set is never going to be good enough for them they’ll want to knock off an extra 20 or so cause they’ve seen you do it already and unfortunately too many of these men are grubby opportunists and will think a lowering of prices is a sign of desperation and will know they can get away with pushing your boundaries.
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I couldn’t cope with them all crying ‘but it was only £X last week’ when I put them back up either.
It's amazing how many notice that, I put mine up over the holidays when I wasn't even working and was out of the country and I got several new clients whine about it, I don't even work that much, I'm like Dude....how long was you watching me before you booked to even know?
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I had this old idiot calling my mobile out of blue ( I met him ONCE a long time ago ) and he is like, you must have no income Now ? ??? ???
I was astonished and really angry !
I said ... I am not sure how can I help you please and what is your call about ? Can I help you somehow ?
It sounded like he felt stupid and he finished the phone call very quickly .
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I've had plenty of guys on the phone the last two months asking for a "50% discount as I must be desperate". I even asked one of them "Excuse me but what makes you think it's ok to call and ask me for a 50% discount?" he answered that his regular lady had done that because she was getting no business. I told him he should stick with her and hang up.I really have a problem with these low lifes thinking it's ok to take advantage of the vulnerable during a pandemic.
Vultures ???
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My clients have been understanding on the price increase. I’ve told them I’m much lower volume until we have a vaccine. I’ve taken 15 min and half hour off. And anyone I haven’t seen before must pay a deposit so the two jobs a day don’t cancel. Deposits are fab for making sure they turn up on the first meet. Definitely don’t lower prices. Men will always find money to get what they can’t get at home.
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Timewasters will know you're desperate and go bonkers on you. Everyone is hurting right now Veronica: you, me and my local coffee shop. Lowering your prices will not bring you more business.
Not necessarily. You can market a "special offer" that looks likes they are getting a good deal when you are offering less services for that priced package. It's about being savvy with your marketing.
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In May, I stated an intention to raise my prices and encouraged anyone thinking of making a future booking to get in touch now to obtain the current rate. This worked well. I have now raised my prices, although at my discretion, have honoured the previous price if I felt it would generate a longer meeting time, which it has.
Am based in the City, and outcall only. This has bought its own set of challenges as the men I usually see are either trapped at home or not in London. I have pretty much written off July. I have had a few enquiries for August, but nothing diarised. I’ve taken quite a few deposits for September and October, and think this might be the only real opportunity before the next wave strikes.
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I've reduced my 30 min rate from £80 to £70 and my hourly rate from £140 to £120 and I'm now getting tons of calls and clients visiting. Yesterday I had 5 confirmed jobs!! Normally I only get about 2, so I'm seeing a massive improvement in my books.
We are in times where people have lost their jobs, we are in the worst recession since records began. So lowering my rates I feel is accommodating my clients and newbies. X
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Merged with more related thread and a reminder that everybody is different and we don't tell others how to charge here :)
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I am not trying to insult anyone or myself, but given the current climate and them being more cautious with money and the furlough holiday coming to an end in October followed unavoidably by job losses... should we not adjust to the circumstances and decrease the pricing for the time being?
Then asking for a price decrease might not be them trying to deliberately insult us but it’s the economic reality of the present conditions.
Those ladies who worked during the last 2008 crisis, how was it for you???
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I am not trying to insult anyone or myself, but given the current climate and them being more cautious with money and the furlough holiday coming to an end in October followed unavoidably by job losses... should we not adjust to the circumstances and decrease the pricing for the time being?
Then asking for a price decrease might not be them trying to deliberately insult us but it’s the economic reality of the present conditions.
Those ladies who worked during the last 2008 crisis, how was it for you???
I was at max capacity in 2008 so didn't reduce rates, and because of the number of enquiries and bookings I couldn't handle I increased over the next few years.
Right now I have a wait list, partly as a result of limiting the bookings I am taking, got advance bookings into September and time to be booked / on hold in October. I have a [patient] wait list for remaining dates in July and early August so no thoughts of reducing rates.
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Hi Mirror ;)
Same here, can’t complaint about lack of business, got advance bookings lined up until end of this month and some inquiries for August. My rates will stay the same unless I see a decrease in demand.
I am just concerned about the economic impact which will inevitably hit many of not most industries and what effect will this have on us. But it looks like even amidst the 2008 mess you were fine so maybe I am being overly pessimistic
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Hi Mirror ;)
Same here, can’t complaint about lack of business, got advance bookings lined up until end of this month and some inquiries for August. My rates will stay the same unless I see a decrease in demand.
I am just concerned about the economic impact which will inevitably hit many of not most industries and what effect will this have on us. But it looks like even amidst the 2008 mess you were fine so maybe I am being overly pessimistic
At the time a lot of people panicked, rates dropped in quite a few places which lead to further panic and insecurity. I would say it all depends on each individual, their business. Some may need to do this to suit their business model, some may not.
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I'd personally say 2008 was a different time with not so much competition. The market is more flooded now.
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I'd personally say 2008 was a different time with not so much competition. The market is more flooded now.
Also prices have been static for a long time.
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Merged with more related thread and a reminder that everybody is different and we don't tell others how to charge here :)
Merged again
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Two factors at play:
Foreign WG going “back home” and WGs not working due to Covid
New WG joining the field Due to job loss
Hopefully the first will outweigh the second one so less competition in aggregate.
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I'd say pricing strategy now should be the same at any other time - if you're too quiet, put them down; if you're too busy, think about putting them up.
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I will probably do a special price in October as October/Feb/April are flat months. Hourly rate special offer. That's all. Prices to remain the same other than reducing my hourly rate by a tenner . And not doing quickies any longer.
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I'm being a lot stricter with times and not letting them over stay. Also I've increased my price of 15 mins slightly.
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I was at max capacity in 2008 so didn't reduce rates, and because of the number of enquiries and bookings I couldn't handle I increased over the next few years.
Right now I have a wait list, partly as a result of limiting the bookings I am taking, got advance bookings into September and time to be booked / on hold in October. I have a [patient] wait list for remaining dates in July and early August so no thoughts of reducing rates.
Right there with you on this I am seeing two a day and taking deposits and have raised my rates and have many asking to be put on my waiting list. I haven’t seen any decline in work because I have been the one to decide to reduce to two jobs a day.
And there are other variables here for example now we are coming out of Europe the women coming into the U.K. to work in escorting will be much less. Even this week with Jet two cancelling flights to Spain and holiday destinations etc.
Things are changing on a daily basis and until I have months without someone paying my price I would never think to lower it.
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My price is already know due to competition and lots of Romanians in the area. I wouldn't go any lower.
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I've taken kissing off the menu which most guys seem ok with and to my mind why wouldn't they when we are still providing a service that is putting ourselves at risk. I think maybe they need to lower their expectations a little at a time when none of us can have things exactly as we'd like them.
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Each to their own and all that but I see no reason to increase or decrease our rates.
I have noticed some in locations where I tour have increased their rates only to put them down again 2 weeks later which sends all the wrong signals and will just increase the number of bargain basement punters.
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Each to their own and all that but I see no reason to increase or decrease our rates.
I have noticed some in locations where I tour have increased their rates only to put them down again 2 weeks later which sends all the wrong signals and will just increase the number of bargain basement punters.
I feel the same. I have no intention of dropping my rates and I do think it can send out signals to the cheapskates and boundary pushers to try and take advantage if they see the reduction as desperate times.
I put a little extra on my 30 mins when I first went back just to encourage longer bookings as I was very low volume then by choice and it worked but have put it back to normal rate now even though I did have a few guys willing to pay the higher rate.
I couldn't cope with all the whining and moaning if I were to reduce rates then want to go back to original prices either.
We're all facing our individual challenges during this time so guess we just have to do what we feel is right for our own particular business model.
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Returning after a the Lockdown part-time with regulars only.
I've always felt semi-retired for a while now, but I think I will be calling it a day now.
The break did me some good and I've become far to disillusioned with it now.
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Hiya
I am thinking of starting work again but concerned about COVID. Is anyone wearing a mask or asking clients to wear a mask during a booking??? If so do the clients have an issue with this and has anyone stopped offering kissing ?
Thanks
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Hiya
I am thinking of starting work again but concerned about COVID. Is anyone wearing a mask or asking clients to wear a mask during a booking??? If so do the clients have an issue with this and has anyone stopped offering kissing ?
Thanks
Hi :)
I haven’t been wearing a mask, none of my clients have either, no one has even mentioned it. I suspect that if a client of mine had Covid, a mask wouldn’t stop me getting it anyway as I provide an intimate GFE
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Hiya
I am thinking of starting work again but concerned about COVID. Is anyone wearing a mask or asking clients to wear a mask during a booking??? If so do the clients have an issue with this and has anyone stopped offering kissing ?
Thanks
I am not offering kissing at the min but it has always been at discretion on my profile and only one guy has decided not to visit because of it, all others have been understanding.
If they want to wear a mask thats fine with me and I'd wear one too if they asked but no one has, I think a mask is maybe a step too far for most guys unless its part of fetish play lol.
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My concern with masks is the security and safety aspect.
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My concern with masks is the security and safety aspect.
I don't think any client who didn't have sinister intentions would think it ok to arrive at your door wearing a mask and if I saw anyone coming to the door wearing one I think that would be a red flag.
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I don't think any client who didn't have sinister intentions would think it ok to arrive at your door wearing a mask and if I saw anyone coming to the door wearing one I think that would be a red flag.
Agreed. I have video entry and nobody showing up in a mask would get inside the building, let alone my flat.
I did have one bloke email and ask if he could wear a mask during the booking, and I told him to try somebody else - even if it wasn't pointless I need to be able to lipread. Plus paranoid punters are tedious as fuck.
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Not doing kissing at all right now no. Too much viral load.
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Not doing kissing at all right now no. Too much viral load.
Exactly, viral load is the main factor and I have to disagree with the idea that as we are in close proximity anyway then taking kissing off the menu will make no difference, I really think it makes a significant difference.
We still have the ability to turn our heads away and choose positions with less face to face contact.