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UrbaneAspects

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #15 on: 22 July 2010, 04:49:14 pm »
Have you been charging them? That's an awful lot of free sex if not.

the other guys have all been attractive guys my age that I dont mind having freebies with.

Lucy Chambers

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #16 on: 22 July 2010, 04:54:55 pm »
Well, there is your new business model right there. No freebies. Half the guys that you have been messing around with would have paid you, given the opportunity.

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #17 on: 22 July 2010, 05:13:41 pm »
Oh gosh, I know Im probably going to get it...

Anyhow, myself and the guy Im seeing (mind you, he'd hired me before) were messing about yesterday and at some point he mentions to me that he'd pay me X amount to insert a dildo in me. I was telling him no, but he insisted and I decided to try it just that once.

If this guy had seen you in anyway as relationship material he would not have

1. offered you money for any sexual act
2. Disrespected you by insisting you do something you have already stated no to.

Sorry if this is not what you want to hear but he sounds like so many guys who think they can get one over on us 'uneducated desperate hookers' by buying a meal or two or taking us out then getting sex on tap for free. Unfortunately you have just proven that some can.
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UrbaneAspects

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #18 on: 22 July 2010, 05:28:13 pm »
Sorry if this is not what you want to hear but he sounds like so many guys who think they can get one over on us 'uneducated desperate hookers' by buying a meal or two or taking us out then getting sex on tap for free. Unfortunately you have just proven that some can.

But recall, I have had 'several' clients attempt to befriend me and invite me back over for 'freetime, dinner and a swim'. I have had guys offer up overnights 'just to sleep'. I took up on the offers only twice, in my newbie day (my 2nd client) and with this guy.

By all means, Im trying hard not to. But I live in a city where people are so cheap, they dont even want to care to pay even if they are butt ugly...and on the other hand you have cheap rate hookers advertising themselves as 'escorts' or 'massage therapist'. Many of them are so unprofessional, and Im sure this town has gotten used to cheap ho's coming back around to be blissed up for free.

Yes, it may have painfully rubbed off on me...but by no means am I an example that clients can get over on me for free.

Well, there is your new business model right there. No freebies. Half the guys that you have been messing around with would have paid you, given the opportunity.

But these guys are in the younger 20s. I doubt they'd be willing to pay. In additon, I have tried 'advertising' myself on the dating sites....and even the older men are too cheap to pay.

Lucy Chambers

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #19 on: 22 July 2010, 05:35:16 pm »
OK. Fine, you made a mistake. You are going to meet hustlers wherever you move to, a freebie is a freebie and you will always have predatory clients that know which buttons to press. But stop sleeping around, it will just complicate matters, especially if you are drawing your clientele from the same community.

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #20 on: 22 July 2010, 05:42:12 pm »
What if word gets around that if you play it right you get free sex. Now I am not saying become a nun but I think you need to look at your business and your recent encounters without emotion and see where you are going wrong.

For me giving away something that I normally charge for has to be in certain situations (commited relationship or casual affair where they have no idea that I am a whore) and anything else is people taking advantage.

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #21 on: 22 July 2010, 05:44:55 pm »
My rule is that I only give it away to women (only ever had one female client out of hundreds so I'm not exactly ruining my business there), my fiance (obviously, lol) and close friends who I approach. Any boy asking for a freebie gets glared at, whether they're a client, ex client, prospective client or someone who knows nothing about me. Or, to be honest, a friend. If I want to fuck them, I'll ask.
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UrbaneAspects

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #22 on: 22 July 2010, 05:47:05 pm »
especially if you are drawing your clientele from the same community.

But Im not...I stopped advertising on the escort section of the 'sex hookup site' earlier this month because it does not bring me any clients anymore. All those perverted guys on there want free, cheap sex and it makes me so damn angry  >:(  :'(  

It doesn't kill the escort industry, but it attracts guys who are tightwads and just want to get their damn rocks off.

UrbaneAspects

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #23 on: 22 July 2010, 05:50:29 pm »
What if word gets around that if you play it right you get free sex. 

Nah, never. Ever. negative. no. uh uh. no mam. no way. hell no. nope. naw. nan.

Absolutely not. I'll then spread the word that if people want to think up crazy accusations like that, Im going to start charging like apartments do. I want first hour, last hour and security deposit, upfront!

Lucy Chambers

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #24 on: 22 July 2010, 05:52:41 pm »
But surely, if the gay community in your area is so small, then it follows that some of them are your clients. And if they can't get free sex in the dating section, then they would have to pay someone, surely?

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #25 on: 22 July 2010, 05:57:29 pm »
and I dread to think what this is doing to your head at the moment.  Honey please listen to us. Until you have gotten yourself established with a good amount of business don't give free fucks to anyone or you are just going to be used again like you have been.

What upsets me more tho is despite you been given advice which I believe you agree with, I find it difficult to believe that you will follow it.

Lucy Chambers

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #26 on: 22 July 2010, 06:15:12 pm »
I went through a phase of promiscuity in my early twenties. I think for some its just part of growing up..I must admit though, I look back now and kick myself for not charging  :)

UrbaneAspects

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #27 on: 22 July 2010, 06:21:35 pm »
But surely, if the gay community in your area is so small, then it follows that some of them are your clients. And if they can't get free sex in the dating section, then they would have to pay someone, surely?

well, Im leaving out of state next month...so whatever lies circulating here will be of no effect to me.

And yes, this is probably really screwing with my head. I need all the support I can get. It'll probably make me be less pleasant to the next client offering a (free) friendship greeting, but otherwise I shouldn't feel too degraded.

I do tend to get bitter about stuff like this, but I know once I am 1,000 miles away from this dump....it'll be a DISTANT memory  :D

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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #28 on: 22 July 2010, 06:33:22 pm »
But Im not...I stopped advertising on the escort section of the 'sex hookup site' earlier this month because it does not bring me any clients anymore. All those perverted guys on there want free, cheap sex and it makes me so damn angry  >:(  :'(  

It doesn't kill the escort industry, but it attracts guys who are tightwads and just want to get their damn rocks off.

Joey, when you mention your advertising and your clients, it sounds like it's all a bit mixed up. Are you trying to attract clients who originally typed something like "free gay hookup" into Google? I can't believe there's a 'paid' section on a free site, what a dreadful place to be advertising - the guys there are going to browse over and then browse right back to the free studs. Stopping in between to send you an insulting email asking you to do them for free so they can feel special about getting a freebie from a pro, but that's probably about it. And if I were a legit client looking for some really special, classy/up-scale company (sorry to use such a cliched term!) I'd be really confused if I was browsing www.freesexbutsomeguysyoumighthavetogivecashto.com.

I put 'gay escort Texas' into Google and got a bunch of results (and pictures of hot guys which is, ahem, beside the point) that to be honest, not even knowing where to begin, I'm not sure how to interpret. But at least it shows there's more than one site to advertise on. I think perhaps not looking for clients amongst the guys who are hanging around the bargain bin might be a good first step - it seems silly but I've found it's really true, you've got to market yourself directly to the best clients, no matter how obvious it seems to me that I'm awesome and all clients should instantly know to go to my site. :P I think clients looking for a bit of something special really do want even their initial contact with your site/profile to be impressive - I know you hardly have money to spare right now, Joey, but could a paid advert on a super-slick site be worth doing at least in future so you aren't dealing with so many guys just looking for casual unpaid sex?

And yes to your last comment - once you've moved to a more exciting city with more of a thriving industry, I think you'll feel a hundred times better anyway! :)
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Re: very nasy argument after being insulted!
« Reply #29 on: 22 July 2010, 07:03:46 pm »
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And yes to your last comment - once you've moved to a more exciting city with more of a thriving industry, I think you'll feel a hundred times better anyway!

I think we should have a virtal housewarming party!!