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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: SuperCheese on 14 April 2017, 04:44:17 pm
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I offered some extras at discount price, in exchange for honest feedback. I kindly explained that my time costs more when we are doing certain activities. He started to get arsey and said my rates are too expensive. If you can't afford an escort, don't try to book one! :FF
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Dont waste energy getting angry about these idiots. They are lurking around.
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Oh I get these sometimes , not that often but they don't get a booking .
Had one a little while ago say just because your English you think you can charge double the normal rate ?? Really pissed me off ( for a moment) I said well book someone else then I'm busy enough so if my fees a problem then don't book ! What a twat , bet he gets a great service for 60/70 quid ( no offence intended)
Had another say he thought 120 sounded better.
So I said yep it does , good luck in your search !
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Oh I get these sometimes , not that often but they don't get a booking .
Had one a little while ago say just because your English you think you can charge double the normal rate ?? Really pissed me off ( for a moment) I said well book someone else then I'm busy enough so if my fees a problem then don't book ! What a twat , bet he gets a great service for 60/70 quid ( no offence intended)
Had another say he thought 120 sounded better.
So I said yep it does , good luck in your search !
:D ;) I just dont understand how they even have the audacity :FF
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It could be a bit confusing though, if you offer different prices depending on whether they leave you good feedback?
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I save them as the price they they offered me and then never answer when they call again
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It used to anger me but it makes me laugh. Thing is, they really really want to see you, but cannot afford you so they either become bitter and send you an abusive message such as "You must be up your ass charging that" or they try to haggle. Never works.
I had one email me saying "Your rate is too much 100 an hour is better" I said "Thanks for your concern but I get more than enough business at my rate, if you cannot afford me and can only afford 100 for the hour I can recommend some lovely girls within your budget" he never replied haha! An old regular moaned about my rate a few weeks back as I've increased it, and I said to him in the booking "if your boss decided to pay you less on your wages would you be happy?" He said no and apologised. They want us to work for less to suit them but they wouldn't in a million years do the same in their line of work, and guaranteed if their boss increased their wage they wouldn't object! How hypocritical.
I'm pretty sure they don't stand in Tesco moaning that their monthly shop is less in Asda or Aldi!
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I personally believe my rate is preposterous but when all is done and said reasonable for what I provide. I'm always happy to discuss rates and volume and what is provided with anyone as part of standard business development. I like to keep things simple and build everything into the rate. If a client quibbles I can always put my rates up! I have very definitely been eyeing up the next price band!!
If clients cannot afford us maybe they should be more careful who they vote for?
I have thankfully managed to kick tobacco and am smoking e-cigarettes. My view is I am sharing the benefits with clients who have a nicer experience when they visit and hold my prices lower.
I have told the odd client who haggles my rate is my rate. My view is if I buckle this is disrespectful and just makes me feel ticked off and devalued and just encourages downwards price pressure on other sex workers and I am not encouraging a race to the bottom.
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Yep they take the mick one said to do an hour for 75 pounds. I replied with are you having a laugh.
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I've got someone else now who's offering me help for my profile in exchange for free sex. He's even telling me that he works in Tesco as a shelf stacker and told me who he's married to and what times his wife is out. The answer to the first is, "I don't provide my services for free". The rest was just boring me senseless. I don't give a crap about his marriage and happen to actually who his wife is.
Maybe Tesco just doesn't pay him enough to afford me and that's too bad, as I don't come for free!
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I have zero tolerance for hagglers. Someone once offered to throw in a bottle of prosecco for a discount on my already discounted rate. Uh, no sorry love, I get them all the time for free.
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It used to anger me but it makes me laugh. Thing is, they really really want to see you, but cannot afford you so they either become bitter and send you an abusive message such as "You must be up your ass charging that" or they try to haggle. Never works.
I had one email me saying "Your rate is too much 100 an hour is better" I said "Thanks for your concern but I get more than enough business at my rate, if you cannot afford me and can only afford 100 for the hour I can recommend some lovely girls within your budget" he never replied haha! An old regular moaned about my rate a few weeks back as I've increased it, and I said to him in the booking "if your boss decided to pay you less on your wages would you be happy?" He said no and apologised. They want us to work for less to suit them but they wouldn't in a million years do the same in their line of work, and guaranteed if their boss increased their wage they wouldn't object! How hypocritical.
I'm pretty sure they don't stand in Tesco moaning that their monthly shop is less in Asda or Aldi!
Yep I had one recently that I told I was booked and he genuinely sounded completely surprised "what do you mean booked ? Can't I see you later ?" I explained I'm fully booked and he apologised and said " oh I'm really sorry it didn't occur to me that you see more than one a day "
I really think they do just think we're sitting around all day , so try it on ...but to be perfectly honest if I didn't see my business from my angle , I'd probably try to , I do absolutely everywhere else lol .
I have had the odd guy who's said "oh well can't blame a guy for trying " but in a very lighthearted , funny way and I've seen the odd one just because I liked their cheek and it was funny rather than offensive ;)
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I had a guy the other day who called me on my birthday. He asked me what Im up to and I told him it was my birthday. He wished me a happy birthday then asked how much I charge for 45 mins. Told him my rate and then he says well as its your birthday, can you do [?10 off my 45 min rate]\'
Errr, it is my birthday or yours? You should be offering me more, not trying to haggle me on my birthday! In fact, you can give me an extra ?20 if you want to meet for being so flipping inconsiderate :FF
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I had a guy the other day who called me on my birthday. He asked me what Im up to and I told him it was my birthday. He wished me a happy birthday then asked how much I charge for 45 mins. Told him my rate and then he says well as its your birthday, can you do [?10 off my 45 min rate]\'
Errr, it is my birthday or yours? You should be offering me more, not trying to haggle me on my birthday! In fact, you can give me an extra ?20 if you want to meet for being so flipping inconsiderate :FF
Big fat OMG ! Lmao x
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Yep they take the mick one said to do an hour for 75 pounds. I replied with are you having a laugh.
The cheek of it though? I just put the phone down on them
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The cheek of it though? I just put the phone down on them
I woke up to his haggling and asked him to repeat a few times just to make sure I wasn't hearing things lol. Nope it was that my tolerances is low when tired.
Although had a little nap in the morning after getting up early all week. I'm not a morning person at least until 11am ready for clients. But try some times to boost business but am yet to see an improvement.
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I don't do mornings anyway. The worm will have to wait.
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I've had to put a sign on my profile saying I don't do deals and I wont swap a service for a service and that I don't except pay pal I used to just say no to the chancers that asked but I've been getting lots more requests lately.
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I had an escort "friend" pass my number on to a client of hers who offered me a 50% reduction in my fee. His argument was that he'd got it from her & she'd given him extra time blah blah. Needless to say I was annoyed & her response was that he's done in 10 minutes. ::)
I know an escort who was offered ?20 when the guy came in. So bloody disrespectful, kerb crawler types are these hagglers.
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It's not even worth playing games with them it's always the same with escorting,selling things online or anything else. What annoys me most is when people agree to a price through messages and on the phone then they turn up and start trying to get the price down with "This is the best I can do take it or leave it". I send them out the door promptly.
The absolute worst are the ones that message you and tell you what you'll do and for how much like I'm sorry when did you become both my pimp and my client at the same time?
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I've had to put a sign on my profile saying I don't do deals and I wont swap a service for a service and that I don't except pay pal I used to just say no to the chancers that asked but I've been getting lots more requests lately.
I have a theory that if you point out you don't do something or something pisses you off, you'll get more chancing their luck to push our buttons.
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I had an escort "friend" pass my number on to a client of hers who offered me a 50% reduction in my fee.
Oh dear.....
What annoys me most is when people agree to a price through messages and on the phone then they turn up and start trying to get the price down with "This is the best I can do take it or leave it". I send them out the door promptly.
This has never happened to before but what really gets my gripe is when they ask me over the phone how much I charge, say thats fine and confirm the booking then text me 5-10 mins later asking for a reduction. I just respond saying "No" then I tell them to find a cheaper escort
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I have told the odd client who haggles my rate is my rate. My view is if I buckle this is disrespectful and just makes me feel ticked off and devalued and just encourages downwards price pressure on other sex workers and I am not encouraging a race to the bottom.
1+ There's one escort, who's English whose price is ridiculously low. She operates from a relatively affluent, well-populated area (considered to be one of the decent punting areas), but her price is well below "average". The lowest of low, in fact. Either, without meaning to offend, it made me wonder if there is something wrong with her (that I do not know what it is, maybe, large debts?), or she wants a constant traffic/high volume, simply. I often thought that it wouldn't help others in the wider area in some ways - punters may begin to think "well if she's that low, others should charge far lower." unless they think that already. Having said that, she could be struggling, which I somehow doubted based on her feedbacks. She had a large reg. base plus milf chasers. There's something really depressing about sex almost thrown away for such a low price, too... :-\
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When someone calls and try's to haggle my rates, I don't get mad I say sweetly ' oh honey I feel embarrassed for you right now, good luck finding someone with your financial predicament' Then put the phone down and block them, seriously they are completely stumped.
I don't think it matters what a girl charges because they will always want it for less no matter what.
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I had this today on AW. Let's me go to all the trouble of calling him and discussing my availability and the fact i require 2 HRS Notice for a 72 mile round trip.
I agree to half hour at my usual - very clearly displayed - rate.. Finally, he asks if I'll see him for ?20 less.
I gave him a stern piece of advice and blocked him >:(
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I know an escort who was offered ?20 when the guy came in. So bloody disrespectful, kerb crawler types are these hagglers.
I was watching a program about ladies working in streets on TV some time ago. She was telling punters how much she charges. The prices she was quoting were quite high. OWO ?50 on top, anal ?100 on top etc. It is a myth that indoor escorts are the posher version of prossies, who charge a lot more.
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Well if having a room I'm paying a decent amount for with CCTV to entertain guests rather than doing it in the street / car makes me 'posher' I'd argue that it makes me more comfortable and a lot lot safer .
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Twice this week I've had guys trying to sell me short with their
Incentive ideas
First guy can I recommend a fantastic ageing serum that's worth your while and I'm happy to demonstrate for you
Me "who's selling to who here?"!
Wanted a 30min booking after his skin care range demo had to cut him short with are you making a booking to see me if not must go got a client on the other line.
2 dinner date booking didn't want to pay my rate for 2hrs of time when he wanted 3 and was paying for dinner apparently I was too expensive at ?270.00 for his out call to a 5 star hotel. Would like to hear your cost cutter callers ladies xx
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Fantastic age serum lol was it euphemism for a "facial"? That's funny that he wanted to demo to you then screw you after. Fantasist probably.
I'd happily take 270 for 3 hours dinner date, just sitting around talking & eating for the first hour or so is easy money.
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I've also had a guy with ageing serum , he also mentioned that he was a children's entertainer , a clown ;D
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I'd happily take 270 for 3 hours dinner date, just sitting around talking & eating for the first hour or so is easy money.
I'd want double that because I'd find it excruciatingly awkward and incredibly difficult. Or I just wouldn't do it, since I have no desire at all to go out in public with clients - we all have different ideas about what's 'easy money', a bit like the dickheads who think they should pay less becauss they 'only' want a blow job ::).
Merged with an existing thread, not least becauss the title made it look as if it was about something else :).
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Yeah I'll only do dinner dates when I've already met them and I know I can have a conversation with them. I also have stomach problems so food can be a bit awkward for me as there's a lot I can't eat and I don't really want to be describing my medical issues to a client. I really find dinner dates are much more tiring for me than the equivalent 4hrs actually having sex.
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Figured y'all could appreciate this. This was an older client, around 75 (not my favorite age anyway)& he books a 90 minute which is $350 ~ I guess about 400 pounds for you guys. 1/2 way thru the session he asks if this could be an ongoing thing & he'd like to see me twice monthly for 2 hours each time, can I work with him on the donation amount?
I hadn't clicked with him but hey, my 2 hours are $500 each, so we're talking 1K a month here...suddenly he's a lot more interesting, right? Sure, I can work with you. I'm thinking let's do $400 for the 2 hours, possibly $375, I'll feel him out.
I said absolutely, what did you have in mind for a regular bi weekly amount for the 2 hours?
"$150."
"Pardon?"
He looks at me, completely serious & repeats, "$150."
I said, "For 2 hours. Twice a month."
"Yes."
*Chernobyl melt down begins*
"So, I have a question for you, X. I'm wondering what makes you think I'd be willing to see you for 2 hours twice a month for less than what I accept for a 30 minute visit. My 30 minute visits are $175 dollars, but, just to be clear, you're wanting 2 hours for ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS!!" and yeah, I was shouting by then *shame faced*.
Know what he says?
"Well, I'm on social security!" All indignant 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️.
Bitch, maybe you ought to be spending that $$ on your damn bills then! I still get infuriated when I think about this, mostly bc of his very la di da attitude.
Needless to say he's blocked. Infuriating, man, just.....argh🔨🔨🔨
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Some think we are desperate and should be grateful.
Give me cheap because i am on benefits OMG I hate those ones.
I suppose at least he is past working age lol hope he had a job at some time
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Some think we are desperate and should be grateful.
Give me cheap because i am on benefits OMG I hate those ones.
I suppose at least he is past working age lol hope he had a job at some time
I just tell those ones to find a hobby they can afford lol
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Merged :)
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TY dear, I should've caught that. My bad👍🏻.
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My friend had a guy turn up the other day he tried to give her considerably less than her hourly rate, trying to tell her that was the rate on her profile, she checked her profile in front of him and surprise surprise he was wrong. He then said he would give her the full amount if she gave him an extra 30 minutes! Kicked out and blocked. Just makes you think he must try and pull this stunt every time.
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I always ask them to use the search engine on the purple
Sight so they can find ladies in their budget lol that normally shuts them up.
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Some think we are desperate and should be grateful.
Give me cheap because i am on benefits OMG I hate those ones.
I suppose at least he is past working age lol hope he had a job at some time
Or those who say they are students...or "ow but I'm handsome not like your other clients" and assumes everyone is ugly. Little does he know there are many quite attractive ones, and they don't even haggle.
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Just yesterday a potential client was bombarding my phone with messages. After I gave him my rates, he tells me he can’t afford it. I don’t respond. Then he comes back to me 30mins later with “ Can you come up with a deal for £80?” 🙄
To which I gave him my standard response of “No. My rates are based on my talent, not your budget”.
Then I promptly block their cheap asses.
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Just yesterday a potential client was bombarding my phone with messages. After I gave him my rates, he tells me he can’t afford it. I don’t respond. Then he comes back to me 30mins later with “ Can you come up with a deal for £80?” 🙄
To which I gave him my standard response of “No. My rates are based on my talent, not your budget”.
Then I promptly block their cheap asses.
Great response, I may borrow it if that’s ok!
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Sure SimplySinful, go for it. If these guys have the audacity to haggle, them as far as I’m concerned they need to be put in their place.
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My friend had a guy turn up the other day he tried to give her considerably less than her hourly rate, trying to tell her that was the rate on her profile, she checked her profile in front of him and surprise surprise he was wrong. He then said he would give her the full amount if she gave him an extra 30 minutes! Kicked out and blocked. Just makes you think he must try and pull this stunt every time.
I once had a wanker like this but he was claiming that my ad stated "no payment required, free sex from a nympho" ???
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Twice this week I've had guys trying to sell me short with their
Incentive ideas
First guy can I recommend a fantastic ageing serum that's worth your while and I'm happy to demonstrate for you
Me "who's selling to who here?"!
Wanted a 30min booking after his skin care range demo had to cut him short with are you making a booking to see me if not must go got a client on the other line.
2 dinner date booking didn't want to pay my rate for 2hrs of time when he wanted 3 and was paying for dinner apparently I was too expensive at ?270.00 for his out call to a 5 star hotel. Would like to hear your cost cutter callers ladies xx
I've spoken to a guy too that is trying to flog anti-aging skin cream on the pretext of making a booking.
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Any man who even hints at a better deal for himself is banned and blocked. I have had the odd client who has seen me at full rate a few times then ask can he have a special rate as he is now a regular.
I don't do them at all. My belief is that if any concessions are to be made it has to come from me and not him.
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Oh, the hagglers. I am not a Stop & Shop!!😡 How they infuriate me. I make a point to speak to everyone on the phone & 1 thing I always, ALWAYS say is, "if anything changes, if you find yourself running late or are unable to make the appointment, it's crucial you let me know."
They get to my hotel room, excuse themselves to wash their hands (so I can count the $$, do they really think I'm not going to?), & there's only $175 in the envelope (30 minutes) not $250/$300 (1 hour).
Client comes out, I ?? them. Client says that's all he had/was able get out of ATM/decided to do.
Me, robotic voice: "That's not what we agreed on."
Client usually begins to stutter at this point.
"Remember what I said on the phone? That if anything changed, you needed to let me know? So you decided to change from an hour to 30 minutes but didn't bother telling me about it? Now if I'm wrong, I completely apologize, but I'm not seeing any missed texts or calls from you."
Client by now is definitely stuttering.😆😆😆
I'm tough, y'all. I'm sick of that, it happens A LOT & I give them a HARD time about it. I set aside an hour for you, not 30 goddamn minutes, & frankly had factored the hour's $$ into my bills, NOT the 1/2 hour😡(assuming they show up of course).
I give them the choice of going to get the extra $$ but that counts as their time with me, or they stay but once they pop it's an immediate kick out -& I'm usually very good about absolutely no rushing & making sure they get their full time.
Or they'll show & say " I could only pull $200 from the ATM,sorry." How stupid do they think we are?🤷🏼♀️ I say well, that's no problem at all, let's get started! Again, the second they pop, I'm gathering up their clothes & ushering them out.
I've had a cpl say, "Ummm excuse me but I paid for an hour?"
No sir, you did not. You shorted ME, therefore you are getting the same treatment. You might consider that the next time you try this. You might also remember this:
This is a large industry, but a small community & word gets around very quickly. The hobbyists have their websites, we providers have ours. Food for thought, SIR *glare*.
Fingers crossed, I've yet to have a really awful review written on me bc of my mouth. I imagine it's coming lol. I hit 50 & started not GAF😡.
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They get blocked straight away if they try to haggle
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Any man who even hints at a better deal for himself is banned and blocked. I have had the odd client who has seen me at full rate a few times then ask can he have a special rate as he is now a regular.
I don't do them at all. My belief is that if any concessions are to be made it has to come from me and not him.
I had this recently with an almost fortnightly regular. Often whinges he doesnt have my non work phone number so we can 'build repor" outside my working hours uugggh.
He wants a discount because im more expensive than other girls in my area (not true at all, in fact im cheaper) I stupidly agreed and said he could have that booking for 30 pound cheaper...what a nitwit I am, I cant deal with on the spot!
Text him 5 mins later and said no way am I doing that again and if he cant afford me, to go elsewhere. Bloody cheek.
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*irritated grumblings*
Just off the phone with another one. Have a 2 hour outcall tmrw (Friday) night for 9 pm, which in Atlanta translates into a huge headache no matter where I have to go. Even worse, it's by the airport, which is an hour away minimum. Told him bc it was so far & technically out of my travel range, 2 hours please? (Nicely asked, of course) I'm spending a minimum of 2 hours in an Uber just sitting, you can splurge for 2 hours with me.
Bc I've learned the hard way, I also mentioned the additional $50 Uber cost he'll need to absorb (i.e. pay me) bc I'm coming to him. Guys, this is on my website that, when I asked, he said he read the donations page. It's on the ads they look at.
He says & I quote, "Ouch."😡😡
You are dropping $500 to see me for 2 hours!!! Why are you fussing about another 10%? I'm not absorbing that cost bc your ass is too lazy to drive/Uber to me.
*rant rant rant*
I suppose some could say, "well, aren't YOU splitting hairs as well over 10%?", but I figured if I grumped around on here y'all would understand better lol.