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Title: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: MariaMaria2017 on 17 May 2018, 05:43:59 am
Saw someone last night and he apparently couldn't find the money he had withdrawn for our meeting. I agreed to him sending me the money via BACs and watched him adding in the details and amount but never saw the confirmation screen.

He sent money at about 6.30pm from Barclays mobile banking, I'm Natwest. Money still hasn't arrived. At the end of the booking I had been getting suspicious (but do know it can take some time) and he rang up Barclays and put them on loudspeaker but kept going off loudspeaker and on loudspeaker. It all sounded from the phone call that it was pending etc and they told him it would be there around midnight (on loudspeaker).

Having looked online I can see worst case scenerio is end of next working day for payments made after 5pm the day before.. but wanted everyones advice... usually it comes in instantly or within 2 hours I have found in the past. Do you think he's mugged me off? I have the feeling he has as there were several things that didn't add up that I didn't piece together till thinking about it now.

Could he have reversed the payment after I left too?
I so wish I had enforced cash now

Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: xw5 on 17 May 2018, 07:51:23 am
A look here will reveal scammers who have set up fake banking websites / apps, or simply not confirmed a payment.

In every case, the escort hasn't been able to see the money in their account, via something they trust, before the service happens. (Some haven't even checked.)

So yes, it's very likely that you have been the latest.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: ladyofthemansion on 17 May 2018, 07:53:43 am
I accept bank transfers but make it clear the money has to show in my account first.

I sometimes have to log out and in to see its there.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Anais on 17 May 2018, 08:37:39 am
I don't accept them. I don't trust those types.

Cash or no service!
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: ladyofthemansion on 17 May 2018, 08:39:48 am
I don't accept them. I don't trust those types.

Cash or no service!

Bank transfers cannot be reversed. You don’t even have to give your name. Just sortcode and account number.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: MariaMaria2017 on 17 May 2018, 09:44:02 am
Thanks all.
Yeah I did read some previous posts about it so i'm pretty sure he has mugged me right off. I'm so annoyed with myself now. 
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 17 May 2018, 09:47:12 am
If this was a young Black guy with a runner's physique, he did the same to me in March. I foolishly trusted him as I'd seen him twice before. Fucker.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: MariaMaria2017 on 17 May 2018, 03:00:14 pm
No he was white and from up North.. I contacted some other girls from his feedback and exactly the same situation happened to one of them. Going to put his details on the timewasters bit
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Rosesugar on 17 May 2018, 03:55:04 pm
Please dont even trust these guys just take cash up front .
Why give them any personal details of yours ? 
If your left feeling worried that you won't be paid its no guarantee they are sincere even if they say they have done it .
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: JustAnotherHooker on 17 May 2018, 03:59:52 pm
Always take the cash first!!! :FF :FF


It’s going to be a lesson learned if you don’t get this cash.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: English Green on 17 May 2018, 04:16:58 pm
Any time i have a client ask if i can take bank transfer and the words do not worry i can do it in front of you it is an instant NO chance.

First of all do not want them having any personal details and secondly most of the time it is a scam if they cannot be bothered to draw out money from a cash machine then that says a lot anyway.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Anais on 17 May 2018, 05:23:52 pm
Any time i have a client ask if i can take bank transfer and the words do not worry i can do it in front of you it is an instant NO chance.

First of all do not want them having any personal details and secondly most of the time it is a scam if they cannot be bothered to draw out money from a cash machine then that says a lot anyway.

Ditto!

Cash or have a wank!
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Schwiftysquancher91 on 17 May 2018, 06:34:28 pm
It’s just my observation but it just seems like recently bank transfer scams have become more common! I know they have always been around but Ive had a spike in those asking to transfer funds instead of plain ol’ cash. Works for some, lots of people I know accept it. But like others say, until it’s in their account they don’t accept the booking.

Always take the cash first!!! :FF :FF


It’s going to be a lesson learned if you don’t get this cash.

This lady won’t be receiving this money, Unfortunately. I say that because false hope is a bitch. I’d bet next weeks wages on it.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Mirror on 17 May 2018, 06:53:33 pm
I accept bank transfers but make it clear the money has to show in my account first.

I sometimes have to log out and in to see its there.

I'm the same and with Amazon gift card too.

If the transfer or gift card hasn't arrived by the start of the booking, the client has to bring cash.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 17 May 2018, 07:26:36 pm
Mirror that's a great idea, take the money as an Amazon voucher. I spend shit loads on Amazon!

The only reason I accepted my guy was because I'd seen him multiple times before. He's a fucking idiot because he knows how good my service is and now he's never gonna get it again.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Mirror on 17 May 2018, 07:54:08 pm
Mirror that's a great idea, take the money as an Amazon voucher. I spend shit loads on Amazon!

The only reason I accepted my guy was because I'd seen him multiple times before. He's a fucking idiot because he knows how good my service is and now he's never gonna get it again.

Yes the cards can be bought in even quite small places and small shops.

Do be aware if bought online there can be a delay, some come through immediately, some take anything from 1 - 12 hours (although I heavily suspect the 12 hour one hadn't been sent, until I advised the booking wasn't confirmed until the card was received and applied to my account).

Once again don't accept screen shots, you need to have received the email and apply it to your Amazon account. Also don't click on the automatic 'thank you' unless it's in your work name and work email address only - because it will go with whatever details/name you have on your Amazon account.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: ParisB on 18 May 2018, 08:09:07 am
Ditto!

Cash or have a wank!

lol I say go to the bank or have a wank 😂
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Hadley on 18 May 2018, 12:43:48 pm
Sorry to hear that Maria, yes sadly it does sound like he's pulled a fast one

I do accept payment by bank transfer but only if it's in my account before arrival (for an incall) or before my setting off (for an outcall). I then transfer it to a separate account just in case.

One thing to bear in mind is that the "up to two hours" rule to receive the transfer, or the "up to 48 hours" rule as a maximum, is to cover the bank in case their systems go down etc. Realistically if a bank transfer is performed you will have that money showing in your account instantly - 2 minutes max. If that doesn't happen you can be 99.99 % sure they've not done it.

I know that doesn't help you now and I'm sorry to hear about your horrible experience.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Guiltypleasure on 27 May 2018, 09:25:23 am
Maria , I would just take a chance maybe ? Or it's worth considering possibly sending an email or text just very simply and politely saying .

My accountant told me to seek advice as you have obtained services by deception and it is illegal , your number is now online and I have been advised to take further action , this email text has been sent without predudice ( legal term) as advised by a client who is a solicitor.

Therefore if you would like to protect yourself and any further action please forward the amount agreed and I will take no further action .
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: xw5 on 27 May 2018, 09:45:13 am
Her taking action - i.e. suing him - is futile and he probably knows it. UK courts will not enforce sex-based contracts.

Going to the police is an option, and it would help if there were more people complaining about the same man. There doubtless are some others who've been scammed by him.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: Guiltypleasure on 27 May 2018, 09:48:19 am
Her taking action - i.e. suing him - is futile and he probably knows it. UK courts will not enforce sex-based contracts.

Going to the police is an option, and it would help if there were more people complaining about the same man. There doubtless are some others who've been scammed by him.

Hi Ian it was only an idea to send a text/ mail that may or may not put the wind up him that's all not an actual suggestion to bother doing it , he may have a lot to protect ?
;)
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: xw5 on 27 May 2018, 10:10:19 am
First rule of making threats: make sure that they are credible.

'Going to the police' - credible.
'A solicitor says I should sue you' - a few seconds with Google says it's not.
Title: Re: Think i've been f**ked over
Post by: xw5 on 27 May 2018, 10:22:30 am
.. for one thing, it's now 'obtaining services dishonestly' (s11 Fraud Act 2006) rather than '.. by deception'.