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The New GFE book and film
« on: 14 June 2009, 03:01:22 pm »
My best friend called me this morning to tell me to by the news of the world- not the messiah of factual knowledge, I know, but nevertheless- in the middle pages there is an article on the woman behind the new "girlfriend experience" book and film out next week. Interesting to read if you get the chance- a few sensible bits but most of it boils down to "the men were disgusting, I did it to shock and I would never do it again now I have seen the error of my ways". Sigh. 

And the little snippet on the bottom left hand corner about a few of us will make it in this industry, but most of us will end up priced out of the market and having ?20 quickies in alleyways made me throw the paper down on the table however.......  ::)



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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #1 on: 14 June 2009, 10:45:20 pm »
Ah well, I'll see you down by the docks then or are you working by the railwaystation tonight - Argh!  >:(
 I suppose all the small minded people out there wouldn't get a wink of sleep if they thought we enjoyed our job and made a good living from it.
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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #2 on: 15 June 2009, 02:12:12 pm »
Sigh here as well.
I do wish journalists/writers would find a happy medium between Adventures of a Call girl, all happy, smiling, prada bag toting bombshell and at the total other end of the spectrum, how dire this job is.
We should all gang up together on here, write a chapter each and put it all into a book and publish it.
We all know how it really is, as in really is, day after day, week after week and month after month. We are living it, we know, they don't, not really.
I guess it's just so ordinary in reality it would never sell unless there was an all out glamour side or terrible side emphasised.
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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #3 on: 16 June 2009, 07:35:13 am »
She used to post on Punternet. Her username was GFE Bea. She's done herself or the industry no favours.

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #4 on: 16 June 2009, 08:19:12 am »
Oh yes, there is a thread on punternet and it links to her site whch is still live. I used to see her post on Punterlink too, in fact there is a thread on there now promoting the book started by Dollymopp.

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #5 on: 16 June 2009, 12:58:35 pm »
Mmmmh, saw the online version of the article and it did not seem to have a negative slant, i.e. that the lady in question appears to have regrets about her chosen profession.  In fact, her forum posts, radio appearance and even her newspaper interview seem quite balanced and show her to be one of the ladies in the mid section of our industry.  I have ambivalent feelings about any lady writing a book about escorting as it seems to bring out a lot more journalists of the woodworks and such publicity is a bit of an anathema to me.  But on the other hand, I am glad someone who appears to be vocal, in a nice way average and not so stereotypical Belle de Jour nor Junkie working on the street given her side of the story.  Dolly rates her highly as she met her and mentioned in her blog that she is a lovely person.  One of the wonderful things is that Ms Mopp is positive and supportive of other ladies and takes genuine delight when someone does well.  That is a rarity and lovely to see that instead of undermining other ladies she is reaching out and praises others.  I have not been able to access Plink for a while so cannot comment on any threats at present but remember when Dolly posted about a new book and was touched that she was excited and pleased for her friends and ?colleagues?.           

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #6 on: 16 June 2009, 01:55:47 pm »
Mmmmh, saw the online version of the article and it did not seem to have a negative slant, i.e. that the lady in question appears to have regrets about her chosen profession.  In fact, her forum posts, radio appearance and even her newspaper interview seem quite balanced and show her to be one of the ladies in the mid section of our industry.  I have ambivalent feelings about any lady writing a book about escorting as it seems to bring out a lot more journalists of the woodworks and such publicity is a bit of an anathema to me.  But on the other hand, I am glad someone who appears to be vocal, in a nice way average and not so stereotypical Belle de Jour nor Junkie working on the street given her side of the story.  Dolly rates her highly as she met her and mentioned in her blog that she is a lovely person.  One of the wonderful things is that Ms Mopp is positive and supportive of other ladies and takes genuine delight when someone does well.  That is a rarity and lovely to see that instead of undermining other ladies she is reaching out and praises others.  I have not been able to access Plink for a while so cannot comment on any threats at present but remember when Dolly posted about a new book and was touched that she was excited and pleased for her friends and ?colleagues?.           

I don't doubt all that you say. But my opinion still stands. I still have an adverse reaction to escorts, or former escorts who kiss and tell. I always have and always will.

Besides, if the article's to be believed, as Carla says, she's so ashamed, has learnt the errors of her ways and "had to endure stomach-churning sex sessions with disgusting, often much older men." Hardly balanced. In ten years, she must've had a few lovely clients, why not mention them. I suppose it's not what sells. Too boring.

I never read books about prostitution, nor do I watch movies/films on the subject. No point when I'm living the life, so I won't be reading it or watching the movie. But I do wish her well and hope she finds what she's looking for.

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #7 on: 16 June 2009, 02:26:09 pm »
Mmmmh, saw the online version of the article and it did not seem to have a negative slant, i.e. that the lady in question appears to have regrets about her chosen profession.  In fact, her forum posts, radio appearance and even her newspaper interview seem quite balanced and show her to be one of the ladies in the mid section of our industry.  I have ambivalent feelings about any lady writing a book about escorting as it seems to bring out a lot more journalists of the woodworks and such publicity is a bit of an anathema to me.  But on the other hand, I am glad someone who appears to be vocal, in a nice way average and not so stereotypical Belle de Jour nor Junkie working on the street given her side of the story.  Dolly rates her highly as she met her and mentioned in her blog that she is a lovely person.  One of the wonderful things is that Ms Mopp is positive and supportive of other ladies and takes genuine delight when someone does well.  That is a rarity and lovely to see that instead of undermining other ladies she is reaching out and praises others.  I have not been able to access Plink for a while so cannot comment on any threats at present but remember when Dolly posted about a new book and was touched that she was excited and pleased for her friends and ?colleagues?.           

I don't doubt all that you say. But my opinion still stands. I still have an adverse reaction to escorts, or former escorts who kiss and tell. I always have and always will.

Besides, if the article's to be believed, as Carla says, she's so ashamed, has learnt the errors of her ways and "had to endure stomach-churning sex sessions with disgusting, often much older men." Hardly balanced. In ten years, she must've had a few lovely clients, why not mention them. I suppose it's not what sells. Too boring.

I never read books about prostitution, nor do I watch movies/films on the subject. No point when I'm living the life, so I won't be reading it or watching the movie. But I do wish her well and hope she finds what she's looking for.



Looks like I did not see the full article but a brief online version as I did not notice the section you quoted.   As I said myself to me such publicity is a big no no and I feel a little uncomfortable about the wider ripples the book might cause as each time there is a book, film or other media attention it leads to journalist snooping around.  I also am concerned when any lady becomes high profile that it invariably worries all clients about how discreet we are. 

But I do appreciate if someone speaks out and represents a more positive role model that shows a more balanced aspect of our industry aside from pure fictional designer clothes dripping Belle de Jour or the usual down and out street girl.  I do hope that this book gives a more balanced and less negative slant.  In fact, I would also say that often interviews tend to be distorted and it might not reflect what Bea actually said.  I can well imagine the interviewer twisting her words to suit the readership.  I understand she is planning to retire ? if she is planning to continue, she may not do as well afterwards.  I read that Letiticia (her book did make me giggle a bit so) another lady that published a book conceded that afterwards a lot of guys were nervous to see her because of her ?fame?.  I am interested in the subject but more in the history and development of prostitution rather than contemporary literature as most is not really that enthralling to read.  I thought that the Belle de Jour books were dreadful and was not keen on a couple of other books.         

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #8 on: 16 June 2009, 03:00:06 pm »
In fact, I would also say that often interviews tend to be distorted and it might not reflect what Bea actually said.  I can well imagine the interviewer twisting her words to suit the readership.        


Bea of all people knows the consequences of selling your story to a newspaper, she's been in the business long enough. And to a red-top rag at that. These are the rags that've outed working girls with no thought of their consequences, all in the name of selling a few copies. I find it hard to believe that she wasn't aware of the risks of having her story manipulated and twisted, if this was indeed the case here.

I also am concerned when any lady becomes high profile that it invariably worries all clients about how discreet we are.         

Another thing for customers to worry about: is this going to be the girl who kisses and tells for a price? I hope the middle-aged accountant who booked her for the overnight she mentioned in the article doesn't recognise himself. 10 years later that's something to come back and bite him on the arse. Not least because she shows her face on her website, which incidently is still up, despite protestation in the article that she's retired.

I hope that at least her book is fairer and more balanced than the newspaper article.

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #9 on: 16 June 2009, 06:40:05 pm »
I have to agree with Brandy here, I too have a serious problem with this kind of publicity, it is in my opinion truly self serving, and in the end causes much grief for everyone.
Hopefully it will blow over soon, when Jordan decides to get her boobs lifted again, makes the new headline splash.

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #10 on: 16 June 2009, 09:47:07 pm »

Another thing for customers to worry about: is this going to be the girl who kisses and tells for a price? I hope the middle-aged accountant who booked her for the overnight she mentioned in the article doesn't recognise himself. 10 years later that's something to come back and bite him on the arse. Not least because she shows her face on her website, which incidently is still up, despite protestation in the article that she's retired.

I hope that at least her book is fairer and more balanced than the newspaper article.

Well, I neither agree nor entirely disagree as I see it from a different angle.  As for any implications about kiss and tell by mentioning merely an accountant as an example of a client that seems hardly the expose of the year!  A lot of ladies who blog and who use the facility for expressing themselves and more importantly as a publicity tool will reveal at least as many details if not more.  Usually, this is with (some) approval of the client who incidentally often really love the fact they get a mention albeit with their identity veiled.  So I doubt the mere mention of the profession is going to scare anyone.  And before jumping to conclusions based on probably a journo hatchet job, people ought to actually read the book before making all sorts of assumptions about her spilling the beans.       

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #11 on: 16 June 2009, 10:48:30 pm »
Are we then saying she had no right to write a book about her experience! Did she name names exposing clients for it to be classed as a kiss and tell? I can not comment as I haven't read the book. Has anyone yet?

I fully appreciate that we live the life and many would choose not to read it or watch programmes. Others in various professions do the same. Like being a nurse and coming home after a shift to watch casualty and ER! I could go on.
 

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #12 on: 16 June 2009, 11:48:57 pm »
I can't type much because my arms are all wibbly from a boxercise class (an evil, evil invention), but I wanted to say that the most annoying bit of the article was the bit from the Sun "agony aunt" or whatever saying something very similar to: "it may have seemed glamorous, but she was one of the lucky ones. Most end up making twenty pounds a shag in backstreets". This was the bit which made me do a big sigh.

Having read these sorts of expose type articles before, especially those in the tabloids, they alllllllllll twist things to a certain extent, and so I am not sure why I expected to read a balanced review of making a career out of prostitution!

However, the gist of this particular girl's story was that she initially did it to shock- and this was played up quite a lot during the article, possibly so as to present the reader with stark and *shocking* contrast to her apparently idyllic middle class upbringing, which they were also really hamming up. This was the main bit which narked me- it was as if a middle class woman couldn't rationally and sensibly choose to become a prostitute, and that instead she did it because she was a promiscuous wild child. It was a typical news of the world article, and something which I am sure they twisted to fit the sensationalist slant of their publication.

Would I go public? No. One because I would not want to upset any of the nice blokes I meet on a regular basis, but mainly because I would not want the backlash caused because I wouldn't be accepted as a normal person, even if what I was saying pointed to just that- society at large is still not ready to accept there is a type of prostitute who is rational, normal and an altogether rather boring businesswomen who has honed her skills as a people-person and works in the service industry, albeit one of a particularly personal nature.

And now, my hands are actually about to fall off so excuse me while I wibble off to bed and have a nightmare re-living boxercise. xx

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #13 on: 17 June 2009, 12:05:19 am »
there is a type of prostitute who is rational, normal and an altogether rather boring businesswomen who has honed her skills as a people-person and works in the service industry

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Re: The New GFE book and film
« Reply #14 on: 17 June 2009, 07:04:28 am »

Well, I neither agree nor entirely disagree as I see it from a different angle.  As for any implications about kiss and tell by mentioning merely an accountant as an example of a client that seems hardly the expose of the year!  A lot of ladies who blog and who use the facility for expressing themselves and more importantly as a publicity tool will reveal at least as many details if not more.  Usually, this is with (some) approval of the client who incidentally often really love the fact they get a mention albeit with their identity veiled.  So I doubt the mere mention of the profession is going to scare anyone.  And before jumping to conclusions based on probably a journo hatchet job, people ought to actually read the book before making all sorts of assumptions about her spilling the beans.       

The difference with blogging is, as you say, permission is sought first (well, at least by me) and I'm careful about what I write. I doubt people mentioned in exposes are sought permission first. The other difference is bloggers don't get paid (and we all know that belle du jour isn't real).
True, nobody's going to recognise the accoutant mentioned in Bea's article, but he would and at the very least it would be a bit of a rude awakening. That's assuming he reads the news of the rag.

I think I'm just disappointed that yet again, that an unfair view of prostitution has been published yet again, all in the name of selling papers. Nothing positive about the aspects of this job has been mentioned apart from the fact that she made loadsa money, although she did say in the video clip that she'd like to be some sort of counsellor.

All the assumptions I've made have been made purely on the newspaper article alone and the little video bit. As I said before, I hope her book is a bit more balanced than the newspaper article.