If this idiot is the same old man who claims he has business in Russia and has the initials MW, he has been on the sugardaddy black lists for ages! Jaegar have tried to PM you but it bounced back - if you can PM me, please do so - I've put his response below that he sends out to escorts - one of the working girls who I hang out with was sent the email below.


Hi,
I had a relationship for 14 months with an attractive 27 years old slim Polish woman until she returned home in March this year.
We met no more than 4 times a month at my apartment near Tower Bridge, 3 or 4 hours at a time in exchange for a ?3,000 monthly allowance paid automatically into her bank.
When she came to Moscow or Saint Petersburg with me, she was paid twice.
If this is of interest, we can meet publicly for coffee.
I'm 58, 1.87, 88kgs, long-time divorced, non-smoking, tea-total and run a property development company with Russian and shortly, Chinese investors.
If this is of interest, details and a picture, please.
Regards,
Michael

I would like to know everyone's opinion about what I have said and did I make the right descison?

I met up with a guy from a Sugardaddie website. I met him at my Station and he seemed ok probably a little too old for me but the arrangement details he was giving me sounded perfect. He was offering me ?3,000 per month allowance plus a small credit card for me to use to go shopping with. He also offered to let me stay in London in a holiday apartment whilst I would see him for 4 times per month.

I met him and he wanted to sit me down and have a chat in the Station where I just left from my train, which I spent 2 and half hours on just to sit at a cafe to see if him and I were right for each other. I refused and said let's go to Oxford Circus. He didn't even know where to go, he was 58 years of age and apparently had this Investment Company. Well we spent a hour and a half walking around Regent Street looking for a place. I did mention to him, I don't think there is anywhere we will find, let's just go to John Lewis bar. He insisted we would find somewhere, so we walked for ages and ages and went back on the tube to Oxford circus again! then we went to John Lewis. He didn't even suggest a place to meet, he didn't even know where to go!

So anyway this week he emailed me saying if we meet again meet me at this hotel in London Bridge, he wanted me to get a train on a Sunday afternoon from 7am till 11am to arrive there to get to London Bridge at 12noon. We would then spend 4 hours in a hotel getting to know each other and I would then obviously have intimate fun with him and I would get a confirmation letter sent to me to say he has paid ?3K into my bank.

So, in his email he said he likes anal sex, so I replied back and said, we would have to use condoms as I have only just met you etc. He emailed me back and said, " If you cannot trust me and what I say, then we do not have a future, best wishes" I replied " I don't understand, you didn't send me any evidence anyway" he replied " I thought I did, so he sent me a copy of his doctors letter to say he is clear from hiv and stds"

So I said " You want me to have unprotected anal sex with you? I don't even know you, I have just met you! and for what a bank transfer? " he replied " I have shown you evidence of my letter and you would get a payment from my bank which would be set up to send you automated monthly payments to your bank. You will recieve the money the next working day after Sunday. " " If we don't gel and we don't get on, you can walk away with ?3K in your bank account and I have just had 4 hours of expensive fun with you and I will move on! "

So, I emailed him back and said " do you mind if you could just give me the cash on the day when we meet at the hotel? " because I didn't want to go there and meet him and have unprotected sex when I have no payment upfront, as that is not fair. He gets sex and what do I get ? a risk of hiv or stds with a payment the next working day?! I couldn't believe what I was hearing!

But I couldn't some how understand if he could give me a confirmation of a letter that he has transferred money to my account and paid it in directly. Why couldn't he give me the cash or half of the cash upfront? which I thought was a bit strange.

So I tried googling him, his name doesn't come up anywhere! I found out that the Company he says which is up and running dissolved last year. I had to do some researching because I was suspicious about him.

He ignored my last email about details of his company I found out about. He called me names and throwed insults at me. He told me his last arrangement was with a Polish girl and everytime she would travel to Russia he would double the allowence in her bank account to go with him and she would get a ?7K credit card to spend!

I did get my hopes up high and I did get excited but I had a plan if he would pay me ?3K then I would meet him but if not I wouldn't bother. What would of you have done?

Absolutely BM!  I toyed with the idea of sugardaddying and the first rule is always that the SD should meet you on the first date at a place of your choosing! They should always travel to you!

Quote from: EmilyJones on 06 June 2010, 09:20:19 am

I can't eat shoes!)

Why ever the hell not?!!

I looked at this a while ago. The guys were either absolute total munters or as others say, guys looking for an escort at low rates. I also found on sugardaddie that many (not all, there ARE some nice guys on there in the 'not just looking for a sugar babe' category), are complete tossers and think they can tell you what to do, when, etc and you'll just take it.

Had one very rotund gentleman with a sour face and no looker at all (certainly not distinguished well groomed businessman for sure!) be terribly insulting to me because I wouldn't just hop on a plane (at his expense, of course) and go and see him in the south of France. He was most insulting about my level of intelligence and hoped I'd find someone 'with a similar level to mine' - cheeky ****** (insert your own curse word of choice). I mean for God's sake, do they think a woman is that stupid to travel out of their own country to a place they possibly haven't been before to meet a complete stranger with NO guarantee of any money changing hands. Knickers to that I say.

I think the proper well traveled attractive and debonair businessman who wants someone they can meet when they come into town and who genuinely can afford to put hundreds and hundreds of pounds into you every month, is few and far between.

xx

That is a good rate.  Let's hope he goes for it! Good luck.

Quote from: Arabella on 17 June 2012, 11:12:16 am

Ok ladies

I am in negotiations with a SD offered to meet only during the day (wifey at home) once  / twice a month.  I was thinking ?500 per date.  What do you think.

Ax

Yes it's good for her but it's still an expensive rate that's all I am saying. And with sugar daddies it's not about a 'rate' is it, it's a regular agreement/arrangement.

I think what you are referring to sounds like a client who then becomes a exclusive arrangement and they can be that way and expect too much from you. I think sugar daddie especially an experienced SD seem more relaxed in general though, and I would never give up my life or drop things for anyone. But I really like the idea of not having to escort much and having an exclusive arrangement with one person. I will never lose my Independence or let anyone take that away from me and will make that very clear. I think with money some escorts seem to expect a lot in these sugar daddie arrangements by the sound of things because we are used to lots of cash but I don't think that's how this is always supposed to work. It completely depends on how much you see each other and what you get up to I would imagine, but I wouldn't have thought its as hard work sexually as being an escort would be because you are not sex on tap like you are as an escort. ?300-?500 per date depending on how long you spend together i.e. a few hours to an overnight but at least once a week sounds perfectly reasonable to me! If they offer more then great! With a SD I hope that both people would get on well and have a connection not just that it feels like 'work' if we got on well it would be nice to accompany them on trips ect also.

No im not referring to 'courtesans' who make exclusive arrangements with guys.  I was referring to your normal joe blogs (SD) who thinks because he may pay you a retaining fee that you will be available when and if he wants to see you.

For me the great thing about escorting is that its straightforward - you know exactly where you stand in that you offer sexual services for X amount per hour, and thats that.

Ditto. The idea of being expected to haggle negotiate a suitable fee just to be at some stranger's beck and call, however pleasant he may be I find unsavoury, and every time I look at this thread I just find the whole tone of it incredibly desperate and demeaning on both sides. I'll stick to being an honest whore, I think.

I also think ?300 - ?500 is NOT a great price for an overnight. 

But it's not an overnight 'rate' is it! It's a mutually beneficial REGULAR arrangement!

Quote from: amy on 17 June 2012, 02:59:30 pm

Quote from: Mellow on 17 June 2012, 02:46:54 pm

For me the great thing about escorting is that its straightforward - you know exactly where you stand in that you offer sexual services for X amount per hour, and thats that.

Ditto. The idea of being expected to haggle negotiate a suitable fee just to be at some stranger's beck and call, however pleasant he may be I find unsavoury, and every time I look at this thread I just find the whole tone of it incredibly desperate and demeaning on both sides. I'll stick to being an honest whore, I think.

Couldn't agree more with these two ladies.  Thanks for the posts.

Rub it in why don't you Jesus Christ! Am I not allowed an opinion?!