This guy just screams freebie hunter to me.  It doesn't matter if its a sugar daddy or escort agreement this guy is not going to pay anytning (IMO). 

Of course its up to you whether you have unprotected sex BUT even if this guy has a cert saying hes STI free thats only worth anything the day the test was taken.  Bearing in mind how hes messed you around already my question is why are you even still considering him?

I like to refer back to this post when bareback is discussed:

I had a no show, I was bored and I was answering my emails. If my maths is wrong I'm going to cry, but I had a good laugh writing this.

Quote from: Idiot Client

Hi

I am writing to you to ask if you would consider offering the service of bareback sex for a meeting with me. I have never had unprotected sex before and I am now more than curious as to the feeling and sensations of this over protected sex. I am prepared to pay whatever you would be willing to offer this service for. I also would be prepared to provide any required health certificates. My request is 100% genuine.

Quote from: Me

Ok, as I'm sure you understand I cannot accept your word that you have never had risky sex before, and certificates are easily faked (not to mention the fact that they are out of date the day you get them because of the 3 month window period for the HIV virus). Therefore I would view this as a very high risk activity.

My ability to have sex is worth between ?200 and ?1500 a week. Let's average that out at ?650. If I provided you with bareback sex I would be ethically bound not to risk any other gentleman's health by having any kind of sexual contact with him so could not work for 3 months. Let's even that out and call it 12 weeks. That is ?7800.

There is also a risk of me contracting HIV, as I said I cannot take your word or a piece of paper against my health. If I contract HIV I will have a maximum of 20 years to live, meaning I will die by the age of 40, cutting my life expectancy in half. Obviously at that time my suffering will be over, but my fiance (who by then will be my husband) will be left without my income or my companionship.

Therefore, I would require my full ?650 per week for the next 20 years, to make up for my early retirement. This is ?676,000. After my death, I think a flat rate of compensation for my husband would be ?100,000 which he could use to buy a new place away from our memories, go on a few nice holidays or adequately drown his sorrows in expensive champagne. He would then require an income for the next 20 years I would have been working before my projected retirement age of 60. It can reasonably be expected that in the 40-60 range I might be less busy, due to my age and also due to being tired from many years in the business. We'll call that a nice ?400,000.

Naturally, I would require the full fee upfront, as I can't trust you to make the regular payments, especially after my death. Therefore, please present to me in pounds sterling cash at the start of your appointment the sum of ?1,183,800. I am aware that this is a large sum of money, but, as you said, you are willing to pay whatever I am willing to offer bareback for. This is in fact a very generous offer as I have not even charged you my usual ?100 hourly fee! I'm sure you will be in touch with your bank first thing Monday morning. I look forward to our meeting,

Krystal

It's on this thread: http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=3157.0

One of the most ingenious posts on SAAFE. 

xx

Thank you for all responding. No I never did go along with it, he turned nasty and sent threatning emails after I said his I found his Company dissolved a year ago. I didn't like the fact that I would have to have unprotected anal sex with someone I have just met just for the sake of ?3K it's not worth taking a risk for life.

typical sugardaddy bullshit, no way, dont ever go down that path. These men can be horrid assholes.
State upfront that you want an arrangement with ONE person, therefore you need to be sure he is a genuine man. That unfortunately means him coming forward with proof he's not some skint old bugger pestering young girls. Whatever bullshit they come up with, dont ever agree to, however whiny they get. There are so many ways he couldve gone about this to calm you down... if he refuses you can be sure you'll be left regretful. The only genuine SD's I met were the ones willing to come forward on the first meeting with their part of the deal- if they expect you to strip. no ultimate step from them- no ultimate step from you. You are the one at risk and they should treat you with care and respect if they want to be your SD.

Bananamuffin has it in one, couldnt agree with her more.

Personally though, I do tend to take more of the SD approach, rather than work as a proper escort. I did so a few years ago, by myself, and experienced loads of timewasters.

However, as people have previously said on here, there are a few genuine guys on SD sites, though sadly, most are just looking for cheap escorts. I have met loads of timewasters, although I have stuck to my guns. I say that if we get on on the first date, and he wants to take it further, I expect a generous cash allowance. I dont allow bareback, or anything else I am not comfortable with, no matter what crap they may throw at me (e.g. oh, but I have had the snip, I hate condoms)... so? my health is more important thanks!

I think with these sites, you need to be persistant. It is never a good idea to say you are an escort, as chances are, you will just get loads of abuse and banned from the site.

The way to approach them? Just be friendly, and then find out what they are looking for. State what you are looking for as well, and see if he is happy with that. From my own experience, I would say be prepared for alot of timewasters (the amount of people who just want wank material sent is ridiculous), and alot of abuse. I have been called some very horrid names and had to develop a very thick skin.

I have managed to get a few regulars as a result though who are kind and generous. It's worth it I think if you stick at it, but it is a little bit time consuming!

What is considered a suitable arrangement, ie how much can you expect to be paid just a rough guide will do.

Ax

no, i dont think you should go that low with sugardaddies

an overnight date with full access to all you charm,wit and sexiness is worth 1000 on the average
a monthly allowance I would say should start around 3-4k

for some reason, the higher you go the more respect and admiration you receive

I would say that sounds like a fair rate to me.  Good luck! xx