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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #30 on: 18 March 2014, 09:30:19 pm »
Interestingly, the initial voiceover picks 80,000 as the figure. It'd be better to give a range and acknowledge that no-one really knows.

There was a better programme on Prague recently, so I wonder why this one bothered.

The four students section was awful.

Unlike some of the others, they're very happy to plug AW, aren't they? At least once, they fail to blur the on screen site name too. The BBC over-plug Facebook and Twitter, perhaps one day it will be '..and if you'd like to have sex with X, see their AW profile!' :)

I like the little sneer when she says 'porn star experience' :)

They also blur the Twitter account name, but not the name.. or the pic of her licking something phallic.

Nice showing the ignorance around the law.

Hello Shelly :)

I wonder if the words of Chris Armitt, the Merseyside police officer in charge of policy, will be quoted in a court case or two regarding what the police see as ok. It'd would also have been more interesting to get him in a debate with his equivalent in Scotland, for example.

Nothing at all about male and trans escorts...

...and it would have been really good if the programme or the website mentioned support and info places like here. Because there will be some more people starting without a clue.

they should have tried to find typical-age clients - there was a massive emphasis on young people.

This was clearly the spin they'd decided on.

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Oh and one of the young fellas, the one with the buddy who she sat and spoke to in their flat, he was on Channel 4's Date my pornstar doc .. I am 99% sure it is him! That annoyed me because if you're going to do a documentary you should vet your interviewees a bit better so holes can't be picked in what you're creating.

Alas, when a programme is done on anything, the young researchers tend to go for the 'round up the usual suspects' approach. It's the only way to explain how Becky gets on TV :)
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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #31 on: 18 March 2014, 11:27:34 pm »
I just had a client, he said he saw the program last night, and wanted to try this out for the first time  ;D

Nice advertising or what  ;)

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #32 on: 19 March 2014, 12:08:12 am »
Haha awesome!
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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #33 on: 19 March 2014, 01:54:24 pm »
I've definitely had a lot more emails from younger members with zero feedback and lacking in escort etiquette! Lot's of 'hi sexy, I'm really horny right now, where r u?' or one just now 'you sexy and hot can I have some nice face pic and videos pls', sort of thing.

They must feel like kids in a candy store after discovering AW, LOL!

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« Reply #34 on: 19 March 2014, 04:51:39 pm »
I've definitely had a lot more emails from younger members with zero feedback and lacking in escort etiquette! Lot's of 'hi sexy, I'm really horny right now, where r u?' or one just now 'you sexy and hot can I have some nice face pic and videos pls', sort of thing.

Tuesday was full of time-wasters on the phone, lots of idiot text messages, far more than usual, in general it was busier and I saw more younger guys.

Sarah x x x

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #35 on: 22 March 2014, 04:18:23 pm »
Just watched the BBC Three documentary hosted by Billie JD Porter about prostitution.

It was more fair and unbiased than most of these documentary types but still us boring, chubby, middle of the road girls are being ignored lol! I would have been interested to see a student funding her way through studies (like me and many others!) Maybe us kind are not so willing to go on TV!

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #36 on: 29 March 2014, 05:31:41 pm »
I just had a client, he said he saw the program last night, and wanted to try this out for the first time  ;D

Nice advertising or what  ;)


That's true but How about the huge amount of new ladies starting ? Every time escorts publicly disclose it's huge earning potential more and more woman become escorts. I used to know a women who would constantly complain about how slow she was and complain about all the new competition and then tell everyone about how good the escorting business was and just create more competition for herself. My question is this... Why would someone who finds a good business must then tell the world about it ,so it can become saturated , create more competition and then loose it's earning potential ? Escorts used to demand far more money in the past then they do now and that's  due to the sheer amount of girls who have been attracted to the industry buy the women who told them about it?  Just an observation.... 
If escorts stopped telling people how " great " the business is then maybe they would stop attracting more competition for themselves. I would be interested to hear other peoples opinions about this?

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« Reply #37 on: 29 March 2014, 06:01:27 pm »
I just had a client, he said he saw the program last night, and wanted to try this out for the first time  ;D

Nice advertising or what  ;)


That's true but How about the huge amount of new ladies starting ? Every time escorts publicly disclose it's huge earning potential more and more woman become escorts. I used to know a women who would constantly complain about how slow she was and complain about all the new competition and then tell everyone about how good the escorting business was and just create more competition for herself. My question is this... Why would someone who finds a good business must then tell the world about it ,so it can become saturated , create more competition and then loose it's earning potential ? Escorts used to demand far more money in the past then they do now and that's  due to the sheer amount of girls who have been attracted to the industry buy the women who told them about it?  Just an observation.... 
If escorts stopped telling people how " great " the business is then maybe they would stop attracting more competition for themselves. I would be interested to hear other peoples opinions about this?

I agree. From a business perspective it makes no sense. Unless I'm missing something. I'm happy with escorting being something that isn't considered "the norm" it means less competition and more clients, the fact that it's something secretive makes it more exciting and appeals to myself and to clients. Obviously I wouldn't abandon someone who wanted to be an escort as I'd hate to see anyone get in trouble in this industry i.e the ?1200 overnight London guy.
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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #38 on: 29 March 2014, 11:22:40 pm »
Yes but it is only a percentage of people that actually are able to stick with the job it sounds like easy money but it's not.

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #39 on: 30 March 2014, 11:41:10 am »
@escortxxx

The people that go on Tv shows are the people that want their "15 minutes of fame".

Publicity will always attract new clients as well as working girls, some punters will have a bad experience and some girls will also decide it is not for them. There will always be new girls starting to work as escorts as well as others that give up, but in the long term the numbers of escorts will naturally increase as will the amount of punters.

When things are quiet it is usually down to the amount of money people have in their pocket, punting is not cheap and I am not sure how many can really afford to pay such high prices, so often and you are bound to lose clients or not see them as often.

Marketing is the key to keeping yourself busy, the more you advertise / promote yourself the busier you should be. Some people get on with making themselves busy others are busy moaning how quiet it is.

Fundamental business ethics apply, keep your customer happy so they return, advertise and attract new customers.

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #40 on: 30 March 2014, 12:30:10 pm »
@escortxxx

The people that go on Tv shows are the people that want their "15 minutes of fame".

Publicity will always attract new clients as well as working girls, some punters will have a bad experience and some girls will also decide it is not for them. There will always be new girls starting to work as escorts as well as others that give up, but in the long term the numbers of escorts will naturally increase as will the amount of punters.

When things are quiet it is usually down to the amount of money people have in their pocket, punting is not cheap and I am not sure how many can really afford to pay such high prices, so often and you are bound to lose clients or not see them as often.

Marketing is the key to keeping yourself busy, the more you advertise / promote yourself the busier you should be. Some people get on with making themselves busy others are busy moaning how quiet it is.

Fundamental business ethics apply, keep your customer happy so they return, advertise and attract new customers.

Sarah x x x


That's all very true and obvious to professional escorts but actually The point and question simply was....
If you find a good business what's the sense in telling everyone about it and bringing it to their attention in the first place if they are unaware the business idea is a good one or even exists. Advertising to clients is completely separate. You don't tell clients " I make shit loads of money escorting" and clients don't run home get their photos done, stick a pair of seemed stockings on and call themselves an escort.
Highlighting and making potential competitors in business aware of an industry that before you told them about , they knew nothing about surely makes no business sense whatsoever. If a reputable business has a money making idea they keep it quiet for a reason.

This is why the glamour industry doesn't pay well any more , some girls even pay magazines to be on their cover now when they used to be paid ... and porn work is virtually non existent in Britain ask any porn star and they will tell you, most will go to LA now .... The girls who are busy are NOT earning what they once were, they will not be paid the rates they used to because the market is saturated with girls who charge CHEAP rates.  that's another reason why lots of models have turned to escorting. All the girls wanted to do it and now the industry isn't even a viable business any more. Girls would under cut each other's prices due to fear, others would work free for the " fame " I remember when you would get ?900 a day for model promo work. You would be lucky to be paid ?100 a day now. And punters who are moaning about " high prices" are trying to manipulate weak women to lower their prices for their benefit. Most Men will always pay for sex and if there was a legal national lower rate standard of even ?500 an hour .... They would find it! They would have to and that would be the price of it. People moan about the cost of smoking... They still by fags and a few stop smoking that's life. I can't afford a rolls Royce so I can't buy one... Tough shit, SEX is not a right , nor is a nice car. Plus Many men are quite happy paying  ?1000 an hour, the world is a big place. Some men would be disgusted at paying that and other men would be equally disgusted at the men who " pay so little"  there are after all some women charging 25,000 for overnights after all.  It doesn't matter how busy you are if the rates are shit due to saturation. I suppose it depends on what you want to earn for being in the sex industry and what your self worth is. I was shocked to find out that some babe TV hosts ( mainly the newer ones who know no better ) are on as little as ?60 for 8 hours! It used to be hundreds of pounds a night!  Rates for escorting on average have dropped and providers have increased too.

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #41 on: 30 March 2014, 12:38:40 pm »
Happyhappyjoyjoy - good point!
HollyH - totally agree !

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #42 on: 30 March 2014, 04:54:27 pm »
@escortxxx

The answer to your question was in the first line of my reply - The people that go on Tv shows are the people that want their "15 minutes of fame". - That is why they do it....

In regards to anybody in business telling other how much they make this is in fact dome each and every day in life by most people in a successful business. They live in bigger houses, drive more expensive cars and generally have a much better standard of living. You will have probably spotted a few of them driving the Rolls Royce you cannot afford....

The modelling world is completely different from being an escort and there are different levels of modelling, from saturated Page 3 models to porn. Some girls who would be happy to do hardcore porn shoots would not consider escort work.

As for escorting, as happyhappyjoyjoy said "it sounds like easy money but it's not" and you can read on many forums how some girls are struggling to make it work.

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #43 on: 30 March 2014, 06:01:04 pm »
@escortxxx

The answer to your question was in the first line of my reply - The people that go on Tv shows are the people that want their "15 minutes of fame". - That is why they do it....

In regards to anybody in business telling other how much they make this is in fact dome each and every day in life by most people in a successful business. They live in bigger houses, drive more expensive cars and generally have a much better standard of living. You will have probably spotted a few of them driving the Rolls Royce you cannot afford....

The modelling world is completely different from being an escort and there are different levels of modelling, from saturated Page 3 models to porn. Some girls who would be happy to do hardcore porn shoots would not consider escort work.

As for escorting, as happyhappyjoyjoy said "it sounds like easy money but it's not" and you can read on many forums how some girls are struggling to make it work.

Sarah x x x


And my point is that by them doing that " their 15 minutes of fame" can it bring harm to the industry also? You haven't actually had an opinion on that which was the whole point of the post.

Happyhappyjojo offered a very relevant point pointing out that of the new influx of ladies how many actually stay which I found interesting to ponder on and maybe it doesn't bring as much harm as originally thought if you equate it to new custom that will stay.

With regards to people with money...They may show they have money but that doesn't mean that they give their business secrets away. That is my point! People who drive nice cars ( probably most of the successful escorts on here including myself ) and have big properties ( like allot of successful escorts ) of them , the professional business women don't usually go around telling people to join up in an industry they no nothing about. Most keep their business to themselves .I mean , why wouldn't they? as it's an industry that has no barrier to entry. It doesn't seem to make business sense.
In regards to " the rolls Royce I can't afford lol"
let me clarify, I spent allot more then a Rolls Royce on my last property investment because Its a better investment and makes better Business sense. Technically speaking I could have afforded the rolls but I prefer long term security and investments first ;) plus I have a very nice car already that wasn't 200,000 to buy :) the rolls can wait lol... I would rather by a few more houses first.
There are huge similarities to modelling and escorting one HUGE thing being there is no barrier to entry, most other industries don't have that problem the second is self promotion / agency promotion the third being self employed. The list goes on and I know from personal experience.  ps. Of course some porn stars don't escort , I didn't say all of them did but check out Some of the main agencies and you will find MOST porn stars offering escort services there. Have you had modelling experience and are you speaking from personal experience?
  Ps I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with your response that was trying its hardest to be condescending ?  I want the industry to be good for everyone here. By highlighting what I've observed May be of some help to us all and anything relevant I can learn I gladly welcome. Stay Positive  ;)

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Re: Prostitution: What's the Harm? BBC 3 tonight at 10pm
« Reply #44 on: 30 March 2014, 08:32:14 pm »
I think the point of the programme was to show that escorting isn't a bad thing.

Had a young guy last week, and he said that he watched and was happy to hear about AW, as he knew he couldn't afford a "high class " and thought that was nothing in between high class and " drugged or trafficked girls"

I would never say to any girl to start working, even that I do like what I do and make a good living out of it I know the lows of the job, and I am sure is not for many people...

I didn't like the bit that made it it sound that this is so easy, eg little sex.... I do different things, and sometimes is quite hard work, in the beginning I just couldn't understand why guys wanted me to be bad with them, kick them all other hard stuff...finally I managed to open my mind and understand that people like different things...