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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: PissedOffPrincess on 13 June 2019, 01:30:51 pm
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Is the link ok?
If not I will try to link something else but this is full of information and links to a twitter group to help.
Twitter may be the best place to join no need to join up on EI
I am anon here and so linking EI is easier for that reason.
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Clue: if you don't know whether it's OK to post something, the way to find out is read the rules and then ask privately if you're still not sure, not just crack on anyway.
If anybody wants the details they can PM :)
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Sorry amy
I suppose people can google the subject
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PMs would not be a good idea
I try not to be on the net too long
Google is best then twitter
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No problem, then people can do that instead. We're not here to send traffic to other sites and we really don't need them popping over to have a nose when they see the hits.
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No problem, then people can do that instead. We're not here to send traffic to other sites and we really don't need them popping over to have a nose when they see the hits.
Fair enough x
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This is a really horrible story to read. But i have heard of this happening before where 2 friends are sharing a flat and both working and they get charged for brothel keeping and jailed.
So many think a brothel is a person making money off other women working there but it can be just 2 friends sharing a place and the risk of jail.
I would not work with anyone else too risky for prosecution.
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Couldn't find this on google but very sad :/
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Women are not loved in Ireland, i mean..what do you expect of a country that legalized abortion a few months ago? the Magdalene laundries etc..they are very religious and traditional, there's no other european country were this would have happened, only in ireland. So backwards putting a pregnant escort in jail for 9 months for working with another girls.
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The law is an ass, whether in Ireland or elsewhere.
Going off topic; I think the conviction rate for rape is about 9% here so that speaks volumes.
CPS in UK and Ireland need to wake up to living in the real world and protect victims of crime and not prosecute innocent women trying to make a living.
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Something makes me think that they were targeted (?).
Newspapers say they were "migrant women".
I'm sure there are other women working in the area and Garda turning a blind eye. . . but not with these women.
The papers say "decriminalisation" by Nordic model i.e. purchase of sex illegal to "protect" women and stop trafficking, did not help women.
Obviously, they made it far worse.
I saw the full article run on the G paper.
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Something makes me think that they were targeted (?).
Newspapers say they were "migrant women".
I'm sure there are other women working in the area and Garda turning a blind eye. . . but not with these women.
The papers say "decriminalisation" by Nordic model i.e. purchase of sex illegal to "protect" women and stop trafficking, did not help women.
Obviously, they made it far worse.
I saw the full article run on the G paper.
It could have been as much as a neighbour putting in a complaint with police and if they looked heavily pregnant there might have been concerns. Plus 2 ladies working together is illegal so police probably would need to act on complaints. Still a shame the judge decided jail sentencing was the way to punish them. Poor women.
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Yes, it crossed my mind, too. . .
There's a better article on the I. newspaper as we speak. . .
It also comes with 16 comments on.
Voice: "Feminists, if you support the ‘Nordic’ approach to sex work, you’re co-signing the imprisonment of women".
This article comments that Garda arrested two other migrant women prior.
It has some positive report on New York City activism (sadly as a stark positive contrast to grim UK version of "feminism" )
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The law is an ass, whether in Ireland or elsewhere...
+1 (and it's a notably freedom-hating and morally fascist sort of ass too!).
I have just contacted both the ECP (English Collective of Prostitutes) and Amnesty International about how we can get these two women out of prison (if at all). If I am not mistaken, though, one is out on bail (& if so, thank fuck!).
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Migrant women or not they are still human beings who should not be banged up for making a living.
Don't know the full story but hope they are released pronto with an apology from the scum who locked them up in the first place.
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Migrant women or not they are still human beings who should not be banged up for making a living.
Don't know the full story but hope they are released pronto with an apology from the scum who locked them up in the first place.
I doubt there get an apology but it is a awful situation and even 2 girls working together is illegal they are hardly pimps what kind of judge locks them up and pregnant. The judge must be making an example of them to be a warning to others but that could back fire on him for being so harsh especially if this gains international interest from the media.
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Saying it not surprised at this i read online 2 eastern europeans over there 3 years ago got raided working together and the police/Garda that raided the place he went back there at a later date and raped one of the prostitutes and her friend witnessed it. It got reported and he denied rape but said yes we had sex as i was off duty and all he got was a fine.
Google it.. Absolutely shocking behaviour and he basically got away with that. Think this says a lot what they think of sex workers.
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Migrant women or not they are still human beings who should not be banged up for making a living.
Don't know the full story but hope they are released pronto with an apology from the scum who locked them up in the first place.
Molly Smith's article on the indy. newspaper was quite informative. G paper also had an article, as well, which is good.
Ireland adopted Nordic model.
Personally, they shouldn't be spending resources/time on foreign vulnerable women. It's just unethical/illogical in all aspects.
Nobody gains from it. No victims except these women themselves.
"Layleen Polanco, a Black trans woman who had been found dead in her cell in notorious New York prison Rikers" in New York City, USA: police brutality on these trans sex workers is horrendous.
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The USA isn't in Ireland, regieeee.
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Migrant women or not they are still human beings who should not be banged up for making a living.
Don't know the full story but hope they are released pronto with an apology from the scum who locked them up in the first place.
Nobody was 'banged up for making a living'; the people concerned were working together from the same place, making it a brothel and therefore illegal. As somebody has already said the law itself is the problem and not the fact that it was enforced - if it hadn't been this time it would have been somebody else's turn soon enough and the plan needs to be to get it changed. We don't pick and choose which laws it's OK to break and which it isn't - it'd be chaos.
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Women are not loved in Ireland, i mean..what do you expect of a country that legalized abortion a few months ago? the Magdalene laundries etc..they are very religious and traditional, there's no other european country were this would have happened, only in ireland. So backwards putting a pregnant escort in jail for 9 months for working with another girls.
except that it happens in lots of european countries including the UK...
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It could have been as much as a neighbour putting in a complaint with police and if they looked heavily pregnant there might have been concerns. Plus 2 ladies working together is illegal so police probably would need to act on complaints. Still a shame the judge decided jail sentencing was the way to punish them. Poor women.
That's been my experience thus far, police get involved if neighbours notice and kick up a fuss or something else. In over 15 years the one time its happened at a place I was working that wasn't a set up brothel (as in a business managing lots of women) just a few friends sharing, it was because one of my 'colleagues' got into a series of rows (stupidly) with a neighbour over bins and shit like that, and eventually he dobbed us in. We told her again and again to stop making scenes with neighbours because he had the upper hand but she wouldn't listen. Another brothel I worked in that got raided (but this was a proper set up) happened not long after an attack incident happened at the place. The guy who attack a woman there never got arrested of course. Although I can't say I had much sympathy for the owners either because they were greedy bullies, and they escaped prison sentences in any case, just their criminal spoils confiscated. Justice is wonky.