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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: AngelaManchester on 05 August 2011, 12:33:15 pm
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I am seriously thinking of banning clients who are old enough to be my grandfather.
I had one yesterday who asked, midway through, whether I could give him more time (but, sorry, he didn't have any more money on him). I was like ::) 'Ooh yes, because I just like sucking your 80-year-old willy so much that I'll do it for free'. He went for a pee mid-punt :-X leaving the bathroom door open whilst he did so, faffed around at the end of the appointment, took about a million years to get dressed then asked as he was leaving if he could have a discount next time >:(
I've just got rid of another one who, when he arrived, asked me for a cup of coffee 'because I always have a cup of coffee at 11'. Fine, creature of habit, if you want to pay me for making you coffee, no problemo. But he had it strong and black - have you ever smelt someone's breath after they've been drinking strong black coffee??! Then he proceeded to 'kiss' me, which to him meant shoving his MASSIVE tongue in my mouth and slobbering all over me. Then - and this is making me feel queasy - LICKED me non-stop for the hour. I don't mean just oral, I mean licked my face, neck, boobs, arms and even at one point - when I sat up to reach for a condom - started licking my BACK. Using the whole length of his tongue to give me big long sloppy licks all over. Feel sick :-X Just scrubbed and scrubbed in the shower. Best of it was, when I asked him for the money at the beginning of the appointment, he said - only half jokily - 'Do I have to pay?'
Sorry for the moan, just had to vent. In both cases, I was lying there looking at their little spindly legs and walnut whip willies and just thinking 'I deserve more than what I've charged you for this.'
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This whole post made me LOL
oh dear, luckily I havent had any around the 70/80 mark so I can only empathise lol
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This whole post made me LOL
oh dear, luckily I havent had any around the 70/80 mark so I can only empathise lol
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Yes, I'm laughing about it myself in retrospect ;D
Lucky you, for some reason I seem to attract the oldies?! And the best of it is, they always make a point of saying that they picked me cos they don't want 'a 20-year-old'. Fair enough but, hello, I'm only 38! Like 40 years your junior!
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the appointment, he said - only half jokily - 'Do I have to pay?'
Sorry for the moan, just had to vent. In both cases, I was lying there looking at their little spindly legs and walnut whip willies and just thinking 'I deserve more than what I've charged you for this.'
I am absolutely crying laughing at this!!! I won't say any more in case my clients ever looks here!
But I soooooo know where you're coming from!
Coty xxx
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*Dry heaves*
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I was someone's 80th birthday present once. Did not know that until I turned up and found him attached, (naked), to emphysema tanks.
Originally he had booked me for two hours but had brought the appointment forward and I had told him i could only do an hour. Never had I been more glad.
2yrs later he put up a reverse booking asking for someone no more than 20!!! I'm 40 and that is bad enough. Poor girls.
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I was someone's 80th birthday present once. Did not know that until I turned up and found him attached, (naked), to emphysema tanks.
Originally he had booked me for two hours but had brought the appointment forward and I had told him i could only do an hour. Never had I been more glad.
2yrs later he put up a reverse booking asking for someone no more than 20!!! I'm 40 and that is bad enough. Poor girls.
:o :o :o
That's all I have to say!! To every word!!
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I had an emphysema one too. The tragedy was that he was only mid-50's ( but looked 80's with the condition ) and had given up smoking 5 years before diagnosis .. :-[
He had decided not to mention anything either - just told me to let myself in on arrival ( never do this on a first booking ladies! I was a newbie ::)
He spent much time complaining I was shaven as he loved hairy women and needless to say, a sexual service of any kind was out of the question.
It made for a depressing time and, back in the day when I also felt uncomfortable to ask for money upfront, he actually threw ?170 on the bed saying that was all he had - and I accepted it-around ?50 short of my fee at the time.. :'(
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I have some lovely older clients (70/80+) and have also met a few that have been a pain in the arse, but no more so than punters of any age. Likewise height, weight, race, nationality or anything else which groups people together.
I've certainly had whiny and petulant behaviour, bad kissing, dodgy breath and a few nasty surprises too over the years, although none as much of a shock as Pandora's must have been - I can only say that the fault there was squarely with whoever made the booking, and they should really have known better. None of the things mentioned here are age-specific - I don't want to be a killjoy and I know everybody likes a moan now and again, but I have to say I'm appalled by the tone of this thread. Poor show.
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I've certainly had whiny and petulant behaviour, bad kissing, dodgy breath and a few nasty surprises too over the years, although none as much of a shock as Pandora's must have been - I can only say that the fault there was squarely with whoever made the booking, and they should really have known better.
From what Pandora posted, it seems the older guy himself made the booking. And then he subsequently went on to post reverse bookings for 'someone no more than 20' ...So the fault(s) lay squarely at that actual client's door, IMO.
Unless I am misunderstanding.
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From what Pandora posted, it seems the older guy himself made the booking. And then he went on to post reverse bookings for 'someone no more than 20' ...So the fault(s) lay squarely at the actual client's door, IMO.
Unless I am misunderstanding.
No, I could have misunderstood too - I had assumed that a 'present' was normally from somebody, and maybe a friend or carer had made the appointment, especially since people with severe breathing difficulties usually aren't that shit hot on the phone. One of my more profoundly disabled clients has his assistant make bookings for him because his speech is impaired and he can't use the telephone effectively.
Either way, whoever it was should have explained the client's health problems, but this still has nothing to do with him being elderly. And I don't see what the reverse bookings have to do with anything - if the people specified don't want to bid, nobody's making them.
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I don't want to be a killjoy and I know everybody likes a moan now and again, but I have to say I'm appalled by the tone of this thread. Poor show.
If you don't like the thread, Amy, you do have the option not to join in.
As far as I was aware, this site provides, amongst many other things, a space for working girls to vent/talk about their day. I wasn't aware that we always had to please the mods with our choice of subject matter.
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I am posting as a member not a moderator, and being a moderator does not remove my right to either have an opinion, or to express it. If anybody doesn't want to service a particular demographic of client that is entirely her own business, but to see them and then sneer and poke fun at them because of something they have no control over (rather than just the twatty behaviour, which is definitely fair game) is something I find distasteful; I wasn't talking about your OP specifically anyway, which ought to have been clear from my first post. As for the elderly punters, I'm sure nobody here 'joining in' has any trouble spending their money.
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I am posting as a member not a moderator, and being a moderator does not remove my right to either have an opinion, or to express it.
Agreed. But it is a shame you do not allow other posters the right to express their opinions without referring to it as a 'poor show' and expressing how 'appalled' you are by said opinions.
And yes, you're right, I had no problem spending their money as it was bloody well deserved.
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*Sits back with a bowl of popcorn*
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*Sits back with a bowl of popcorn*
Er, well, I don't want to disrupt anyone's anticipation of a good old fight or anything, but as far as I can see, all that's happened here is the statement of opposing opinions.
I agree with Amy, NOT because of being in some sort of "mod club" (honestly, my only job round here is to get rid of thread-titles in capslock and to fix broken quotes, really) but because I don't think "being old" makes a bad client. And I don't think that's what the OP was necessarily getting at, either - and if a client is rude, or haggles/underpays, I've got no more respect for him than he has for sex workers.
But somewhere along the way, this thread got a little ugly. Perhaps it was here?
*Dry heaves*
...but anyway, nobody is repressing anybody else's rights to an opinion, though that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to post in disagreement, too. Mods will only lock threads if they degenerate into pointless insults and personal comments.
I personally think this thread is fine so far - quite a rousing discussion of personal preferences, shocking experiences and general mores, so hopefully, with a little less dry-heaving, it can stay as it is!
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From what Pandora posted, it seems the older guy himself made the booking. And then he went on to post reverse bookings for 'someone no more than 20' ...So the fault(s) lay squarely at the actual client's door, IMO.
Unless I am misunderstanding.
No, I could have misunderstood too - I had assumed that a 'present' was normally from somebody, and maybe a friend or carer had made the appointment, especially since people with severe breathing difficulties usually aren't that shit hot on the phone. One of my more profoundly disabled clients has his assistant make bookings for him because his speech is impaired and he can't use the telephone effectively.
Either way, whoever it was should have explained the client's health problems, but this still has nothing to do with him being elderly. And I don't see what the reverse bookings have to do with anything - if the people specified don't want to bid, nobody's making them.
The guy made the booking himself. He did not say how old he was. He did not say about the tanks. Apart from the shock (to me), I wondered if he was going to die. I did a professional job but left him feedback saying "I wish I was half as sprightly when I was his age", to warn others.
It was 2YEARS later that he made the reverse booking for someone 62 years his junior. Yet again there was nothing on the bid to tell the provider any of the details, (apart from them maybe looking at my feedback for him). Just a blank bid of 100 for an hour.
I am not complaining about 80yr per se, just that he should have told me so I knew what to expect.
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I am not complaining about 80yr per se, just that he should have told me so I knew what to expect.
And I think we're all definitely agreeing that a shock like that is a horrid thing to do to anyone, and he should DEFINITELY have given you a fully informative warning!
I was surprised once by a client in this 60s who'd beaten prostate cancer, which was amazing, but getting a quick lecture about how he was going to have to take medication and inject himself with something before he could have sex was a bit of a bloody shock when I got there, I tell you. If I'd known in advance, I would have passed on the booking because I would have known how uncomfortable I would feel, and it would be better for him to look for a WG with related experience - there are plenty of women out there who've had partners with various issues, and who therefore would understand the medication/injection bit and not find it scary like I did.
There's obviously no need for a person with issues like this to be warning everyone in their lives all the time, but if they expect a very young, inexperienced woman to have full sexual intercourse with them, then they bloody well do need to give a warning, in my opinion.
And just to balance it out, I have a brilliant regular who must be around 70 and he's great cos he's simple, direct and really enjoys himself, so I really enjoy seeing him, too. :) He might be my longest-known client, actually!
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Hey? Dont point all this in my direction Miss Jones! I'm innocent here! I just think its a bit odd that a fairly innocent thread with a little humour is turning into a flame war.
If a mod wishes to express her disgust opinion on something being discussed by others, she needs to phrase things a little different than how she just did it to avoid upsets. Infact, it was fine until the last line. Up until the last line it was just a regular post. But ending it with
I'm appalled by the tone of this thread. Poor show
Oooh. Okay. Are we all on punishment now? No tv and phone for a week. I think most of us have nothing but repect for the mods and this forum and therefore we dont go around trying to piss everyone off on here. So when mum a mod kind of tells us off a little for something so small then its a little odd. And worrying.
And when i replied with "Dry heaves", i dont believe thats where the thread got ugly. Why try to flame me? What does it achieve? I'd agree with anybody who said that halfway is the point where it got childish. Anyway, i guess i better wait around for the backlash... Unless you just want to boot me off the forum altogether!
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a fairly innocent thread with a little humour
Exactly. My OP, whilst a bit cheeky (tongue-in-cheeky?!) was merely bemoaning some of the not-so palatable parts of our chosen careers.
If a mod wishes to express her disgust opinion on something being discussed by others, she needs to phrase things a little different than how she just did it to avoid upsets. Infact, it was fine until the last line. Up until the last line it was just a regular post. But ending it with
I'm appalled by the tone of this thread. Poor show
Oooh. Okay. Are we all on punishment now? No tv and phone for a week. I think most of us have nothing but repect for the mods and this forum and therefore we dont go around trying to piss everyone off on here. So when mum a mod kind of tells us off a little for something so small then its a little odd. And worrying.
Therein lies the problem. Mods on any forum, whilst obviously having the same right to comment and express opinions as any other member, surely have to ensure that they don't drift into the realms of censorship. There is a world of difference in saying, eg: 'I don't agree at all, I have some lovely 70/80+ clients' and, eg: 'I am appalled by the opinions conveyed. Poor show.'
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There is a world of difference in saying, eg: 'I don't agree at all, I have some lovely 70/80+ clients' and, eg: 'I am appalled by the opinions conveyed. Poor show.'
Guys, Amy has strong opinions and a strong voice. We all love her for that when she's putting spammers and other wankers that try to use this forum in the wrong way in their places, but she's still going to talk in the same way when something we say offends her, too. I've probably had a little, erm, disagreement or two with her before since - like everyone else here - I have my own opinions and feel free to share them, but I don't begrudge anyone the right to disagree with me.
If Amy was trying to censor you, this whole thread would've gone in the bin yesterday. She would NEVER do that, though.
And when i replied with "Dry heaves", i dont believe thats where the thread got ugly. Why try to flame me? What does it achieve? I'd agree with anybody who said that halfway is the point where it got childish. Anyway, i guess i better wait around for the backlash... Unless you just want to boot me off the forum altogether!
I wish I got a penny every time someone got upset about being disagreed with and decided that they wanted to be banned so they could make a dramatic exit. ;)
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Sorry to harp on, but just to be clear:
I don't begrudge anyone the right to disagree with me.
Nor do I, as I clearly state. There is, however, a distinct difference between disagreement and disapproval.
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Nor do I, as I clearly state. There is, however, a distinct difference between disagreement and disapproval.
Really? :-\
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Nor do I, as I clearly state. There is, however, a distinct difference between disagreement and disapproval.
Really? :-\
Sorry for butting in but I think it's all about connotations, for me "disagreeing" sounds like something equals do, "disapproving" sounds like something superiors do.
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Sorry for butting in but I think it's all about connotations, for me "disagreeing" sounds like something equals do, "disapproving" sounds like something superiors do.
Been debating whether to join in! I feel disagreeing is different to disapproving....but I do feel disapproving is done by some one superior. I felt like we were all being told off by the headmistress.
and I'm obviously very childish as it was the spindly legs and walnut whip willies that cracked me up and it even inspired me to write a poem.
Having said that all my old clients....despite maybe fitting that description are all lovely.
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I wish I got a penny every time someone got upset about being disagreed with and decided that they wanted to be banned so they could make a dramatic exit. ;)
I'm not upset or trying to make a dramatic exit! ;D See! Thats a genuine big smile! I'd quite like to stay! I just think its a shame that its turned into a bit of a soap here! Lets all chill the fudge out and start talking about cute little squirrels or something! :)
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I wish I got a penny every time someone got upset about being disagreed with and decided that they wanted to be banned so they could make a dramatic exit. ;)
I'm not upset or trying to make a dramatic exit! ;D See! Thats a genuine big smile! I'd quite like to stay! I just think its a shame that its turned into a bit of a soap here! Lets all chill the fudge out and start talking about cute little squirrels or something! :)
Agreed!
Here's something a bit different:
http://xkcd.com/685/
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Here's something a bit different:
http://xkcd.com/685/
;D
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Nor do I, as I clearly state. There is, however, a distinct difference between disagreement and disapproval.
Really? :-\
I don't understand what you're saying, Emily. Are you saying you think there isn't a difference? Or are you being ironic?
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I am seriously thinking of banning clients who are old enough to be my grandfather.
I had one yesterday who asked, midway through, whether I could give him more time (but, sorry, he didn't have any more money on him). I was like ::) 'Ooh yes, because I just like sucking your 80-year-old willy so much that I'll do it for free'. He went for a pee mid-punt :-X leaving the bathroom door open whilst he did so, faffed around at the end of the appointment, took about a million years to get dressed then asked as he was leaving if he could have a discount next time >:(
I've just got rid of another one who, when he arrived, asked me for a cup of coffee 'because I always have a cup of coffee at 11'. Fine, creature of habit, if you want to pay me for making you coffee, no problemo. But he had it strong and black - have you ever smelt someone's breath after they've been drinking strong black coffee??! Then he proceeded to 'kiss' me, which to him meant shoving his MASSIVE tongue in my mouth and slobbering all over me. Then - and this is making me feel queasy - LICKED me non-stop for the hour. I don't mean just oral, I mean licked my face, neck, boobs, arms and even at one point - when I sat up to reach for a condom - started licking my BACK. Using the whole length of his tongue to give me big long sloppy licks all over. Feel sick :-X Just scrubbed and scrubbed in the shower. Best of it was, when I asked him for the money at the beginning of the appointment, he said - only half jokily - 'Do I have to pay?'
Sorry for the moan, just had to vent. In both cases, I was lying there looking at their little spindly legs and walnut whip willies and just thinking 'I deserve more than what I've charged you for this.'
Oh Angela.
That is so horrible and I so empathise.
I just wish people who think we earn easy money
read your post as it's a perfect example of why the job is often anything but.
I have yummy clients, and so-so clients and I have clients who I just don't gel with.
When they french-kiss it is just so yucky, for me that is the worst bit of all.
The non-gelling ones are the jobs I end up closing up on myself, afterwards
always by having a long hot shower. My man is lovely and know not to make conversation with me
when my body language says I'm in that yucky place.
This is a job and we should be able to be professional and divorce ourselves from our emotions.
But the truth is that what we do, is so intimate, that separation can at times be so difficult or even impossible.
We are humans with feelings and after all, none of our clients want a hard assed bitch!
But along with our sensitivity comes our exposure to things, to people
where it just feels soooooo wrong.
And that is just the way it is. Yes we are all fluffy and lovable. But the flip side of this is vulnerability.
And our mental well-being has to take priority.
Sometimes in the gross-out sessions (for me those are few and far between) I find the time drags
and I just think to myself
"Oh god this is so wrong, please let it be over"
It really feels like a bad time at the dentist!
But of course, we have to go there every six months too!
I find that walking out of their place with a bundle of twenties helps put my feelings into perspective.
It is good to have a confidant be they an understanding partner, a close friend
or your internet friends, right here on SAAFE!
The nice thing about being our own boss is that we can pick and choose who we have sex with for money.
We can always change our mind at any point. Even when we are about to get down and dirty, so to speak.
Just say sorry, look apologetic and hand them the money back.
But be mindful of their feelings too. Its not their fault they gross us out unless it's BO >:(
Let them down as gently as possible.
I'm sure the others will have suggestions on tactful things to say to a client,
when killing an appointment.
Anyway, lots of hugs from me
I know exactly what you mean.
Jodie. xx
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If octogenarian clients cause too much distress to your life then you should get rid of them. Appointments that will ruin your whole day are not worth the money.
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The nice thing about being our own boss is that we can pick and choose who we have sex with for money.
We can always change our mind at any point. Even when we are about to get down and dirty, so to speak.
Just say sorry, look apologetic and hand them the money back.
But be mindful of their feelings too. Its not their fault they gross us out unless it's BO >:(
Let them down as gently as possible.
I'm sure the others will have suggestions on tactful things to say to a client,
when killing an appointment.
Anyway, lots of hugs from me
I know exactly what you mean.
Jodie. xx
Thank you, Jodie :-* Great post.
You are spot on. For the first time in absolutely ages (I can't remember the last time), I came *this* close to terminating the second appointment (the licky one) and I remember actually thinking how on earth I could tell him I just wanted him to stop and leave me alone right now! I hated feeling that way because it's certainly not the norm for me. I should have just gone with my gut and asked him to stop, refunded him the money and asked him to leave, but the truth is I didn't want to upset him! Because he was a nice man, just not a nice man to be intimate with. I'll not take any further bookings from that gent because it wouldn't be fair on either of us.
Ah well. We live and learn.
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Id be grossed out if that happened to me.
Ive had a few aged 70s, only 1 of them didnt want sex but just cuddles and social company during an evening/overnight, only thing sexual was he liked rubbing/fingering me. The others were ok though, one actually made me orgasm twice during sex! I couldnt believe it.
I just hate the smell of some of their homes, there was one i just couldnt step inside the door it smelt dire disgusting i couldve collapsed. But similar can be said about any other peoples homes really.
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I find some of the older clients (80+) really scary, I just keep thinking please don't die, please don't die.
I once had a client book me for a half hour appointment. When I opened the door there stood a gentleman who I swear must have been 90+. His first words where 'Is it okay to leave my mobility scooter here?' and 'Can I just have a couple of minutes rest? That was a long walk to your door' (7ft from pavement to door) and he pulled out a little tube and pumped a spray under his tongue. Turned out he had angina. (turned him away, once he had his breath back). Some men just don't realise their limitations.
But then again some 70+ are so fit and healthy you soon forget how old they are (apart from that strange old person smell that you get).
Jas x
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lol naughtyjes.
But yeah, ive only known one that seemed fit, the one id mentioned who made me orgasm twice, was like a mr motivator - seemed funny at first (i didnt show it), then the sex went really good.
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Sorry to bud in on this post. I am new to this forum :-\
I just have to say that after reading all the posts I guess I can count my self lucky!
I've been in the business of "cough" for around 2 years and the oldest client I had the luxury :) of meeting was... hmm I don't know maybe 60ish.
I am sure my time will come and at least after reading through the posts here I can be better prepared for when the time does come around.
That being said I "knew" what I was getting into when I started and after my first time I was completely "face palmed" I don't think anyone is really peppered (personal opinion) So I guess I didn't know "$%(%"
I would love to hear some more stories in hopes that somehow I can maybe know what to look for when clients are booking. It's not like I am going to ask if they are disabled or something... hmmm... on second thought It might be a good idea.
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I would love to hear some more stories in hopes that somehow I can maybe know what to look for when clients are booking. It's not like I am going to ask if they are disabled or something... hmmm... on second thought It might be a good idea.
Most men let you know if they are disabled or not. Last thing that they want is an escort arriving, then seeing them and just running a mile :o
On the odd occasion they might not... but it's rare and I don't think it's anything to worry yourself about.
xx
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I had a guy calling me once for a massage and informing me on the phone he was a bit "overweight". "no problem" I said.
So guy comes through the door. Oh. My. fuckin. God. He's not a bit overweight: he's the fattest man on the planet. As in morbidly obese. One of these guys that you only see in "the guinness book of records". I'm in shock. In awe. I feel like screaming and running to the hills. He lays in my massage table and all his flesh is just hanging on the sides like one giant blob. I need 2 massage tables for this! didn't know were to start cause it's just a mass of flesh with no human form. I mean, there's no muscles to massage, just giant rolls of fat. "Oh my good! What am I going to do now!" I think to myself while wanting to cry. "Were do I start?"
I don't remember how I made it through the session, all I remember is that I couldn't give him a hand job cause his dick was nowhere to be found. I'm sure he had one but it was hidding somewhere in between the giant rolls of fat.
Since then, anytime someone tells me "I'm slightly overweight" over the phone I start trembling and realize how my schedule is "fully booked".
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Sorry to bud in on this post. I am new to this forum :-\
I just have to say that after reading all the posts I guess I can count my self lucky!
I've been in the business of "cough" for around 2 years and the oldest client I had the luxury :) of meeting was... hmm I don't know maybe 60ish.
I am sure my time will come and at least after reading through the posts here I can be better prepared for when the time does come around.
That being said I "knew" what I was getting into when I started and after my first time I was completely "face palmed" I don't think anyone is really peppered (personal opinion) So I guess I didn't know "$%(%"
I would love to hear some more stories in hopes that somehow I can maybe know what to look for when clients are booking. It's not like I am going to ask if they are disabled or something... hmmm... on second thought It might be a good idea.
Jo, butting in is one thing but there's really no need to resurrect threads that have been dead and buried for a year, especially when they didn't exactly cover some of the members here in glory in the first place. If you want to discuss dealing with disabled punters, that isn't the topic of this discussion anyway so please start a new thread in Questions and Answers; there is an article on the main site too. The business you are in is prostitution, if that's any help.
Anyone wishing to moan about paying punters because they're unconventional for whatever reason, do it elsewhere please. Nobody has to see anybody they would rather not at the end of the day, and we've enough sad, pathetic trolls slagging the place off without providing them with even more reason to do exactly that.
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