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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: Nora batty on 02 August 2018, 06:51:59 am
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Anyone know of anything out there that would be safe to use on clients with nut allergies? Preferable non scented. Everything I have bought still contains a trace even when marketed for completely nut free.
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Mineral oil (unscented baby oil.) There's no reason it should ever come in contact with nuts as it's unrelated to food.
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I usually use grapeseed oil, and haven't had a problem yet, but if you want to be doubly sure then ID silicone lube is a good one, as it's condom friendly. Just incase you offer a massage as well as sex.
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Grapseed oil is the best I’ve tried too. You can order huge cartons of it on Amazon :-)
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I have bought grapeseed oil, it still says may contain trace of nuts. All of the seed based oils have the "may contain a trace of nuts" in the ingredients.
I was wondering if not using a premixed oil and going down the aromatherapy oils would be completely nut free, as the more I look into it all of the oils will have a trace of nuts.
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I have bought grapeseed oil, it still says may contain trace of nuts. All of the seed based oils have the "may contain a trace of nuts" in the ingredients.
I was wondering if not using a premixed oil and going down the aromatherapy oils would be completely nut free, as the more I look into it all of the oils will have a trace of nuts.
They probably don't have a trace of nuts: it's just a legal disclaimer because they can't 100% swear that somewhere along the supply line, they haven't been in the same warehouse or something as a nut oil.
But mineral oil, being non-food, would be incredibly unlikely to be in proximity of nuts.
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That's great o shall have a Google.
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Coconut oil should be good - coconuts are classified as fruits, not nuts.
The liquid form is fractionated coconut oil, it's fragrance free.
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After contacting the people selling these so called nut free oils, they cannot guarantee no trace of nuts because of the way the product is manufactured. So even if it's a fruit, seed whatever, it's not safe unless it clearly states it's suitable for nut allergies.
I hav contacted a lot of companies and they all giving the same response.
I won't take a risk with someone who's allergic so I will add a notice on my profile.
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Hm... How about using some cream instead, like Aqueous? Or a lotion?
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How about unperfumed talc? Helps the hands to glide, however I guess you'd have to double check ingredients with that, or any alternative really.
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I just going to not bother, but thanks ladies. Talc fucking hate the stuff and no doubt me and the client would end up looking like a porn scene in a Tony Montana kind of way 😃
I thought I had cracked it as there's one that's sold on eBay for nut allergies, until it arrived and stated may have trace of nuts, wtf! Reported them to eBay as they are misleading.
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Talc fucking hate the stuff and no doubt me and the client would end up looking like a porn scene in a Tony Montana kind of way
Haha :D
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A company I ordered some scented oil from does an unscented version.
It's made up from olive oil, wheatgerm and sunflower seed oil.
Google unscented organic oil..........should get you there.
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For that specific client I would just use body lotion instead.
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Just have a choice available - scented or un scented with or without nuts.
I always ask if they have a nut allergy and I find sweet almond oil the best and fairly cheap.
I also use expensive pre blended oils which did not contain anything nutty,
Baby oil is synthetic and is just vile.
I offer a professional massage as did the training years back and clients love it but with the pre blended oils!
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While sunflower oil or vegetable oil out of tesco does the trick if you’re on a budget or that’s all you can get there are still nicer alternatives.
Sally’s Salon services do a good range.
Holland and Barrett are good when they have a sale.
In my opinion Baby oil is just rank.
Found a really nice one by accident yesterday after going to Ann Summers and buying the pack of 10 boxes with the lube sachets. They included sandalwood massage oil and it smelled delicious. Though some guys do prefer no scent which is where the sunflower oil comes in.
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Bio oil
Almond oil
Rarely asked.
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I love using nivea range of lotions.
Smells so nice absorbs well into the skin and dosnt leave a oily residue.
Baby oil very rarly it is horrid oily and smells :-X :-X
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Almond or jojoba oil is best as the plain option or carrier for a few drops of scented essential oil. Coconut is nice, too. There's also some good preblended, scented massage oils.
I can't imagine massaging anyone with a Tesco cooking oil!
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Nice to know, as I like them for myself. I used regular supermarket grape seed oil on clients because it's odour free, light, a little goes far, and can be patted off with a bit of paper roll. The clients are paranoid of smellies so never used them.
But for the past 2 years I'm a 100% 'grease free establishment' GFE ;D
99% less laundry, 99% less showers.
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Bio oil
Almond oil
Rarely asked.
Thanks I completely forgot almond oil .
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I always just use baby oil... its fine for me, why would it be rank?
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I always just use baby oil... its fine for me, why would it be rank?
it's personal preference I guess just don't like the smell
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I always just use baby oil... its fine for me, why would it be rank?
It's got a something about it.
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I use organic grape seed oil. "Naissance" off amazon. I seem to get through 1 litre every 6 months, costs me around £1.30 a month.
Probably cheaper than baby oil. I don't like baby oil. Petro chemicles are too harsh IMO.
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I've got the baby oil with aloe vera, which has a different/nicer smell, but there is controversy over the safety of mineral oil.
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I like the bodyshop ones. Currently using their lemongrass scented. I keep some Wat Pho liniment and some namman thai boxer liniment handy for myself and for clients who want a sports massage. They heat up the muscles when rubbed in and have a strong smell like tiger balm. Just remember to wash your hands before touching any more delicate body parts.
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I hate the sandalwood one in Ann Somers!
I use Sanctuary massage oil which is great.
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I use organic grape seed oil. "Naissance" off amazon. I seem to get through 1 litre every 6 months, costs me around £1.30 a month.
Coconut oil (fractionated), also from Naissance. 5L (£60) every 6 months.
Zero fragrance whatsoever, all good.
But, have to say, that after using it so often, I developed dry skin and spots on the chest area. :-\
Now I'm moisturising with Body Shop body butters before every booking and my skin is back to normal.
I'm not entirely sure but think that the refined form of oil is stripped of all the natural 'goodies', hence the drying property (in the long term).
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Baby oil lavender one
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I make my own up. Got lots of books about oils! Can't go wrong with sweet almond oil, so long as they don't have a nut allergy of course.
Baby oil is a no no - for men or babies!
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Argon oil for head and scalp massages.
For the body I stock a range of 4 to target different skin types. For oily skin I would use Grapeseed oil, as this oil sits on the skin it doesn't absorb quickly. For normal and sensitive skins I use Sweet Almond Oil as thi is absorbed easily. I have others but find these two the most needed.
Essential oils and pre blended oils, they are great. But watch for the cheap ones on eBay as they are usually made from the crappest part of the plant/flower/weed or a lower strength. Essential oils can target and improve health conditions and give the client and you an instant uplifting or relaxing feeling,(off topic, but for those ladies suffering with menopause symptoms thers an oil that mimics Estrogen) but they also have contraindications and things sometimes need to be avoided afterwards as they can have a sedative effect or be phototoxic. There are quite a few oils I cannot use as it affects my kidney issue. I love this style of massage and so do clients.
Naissance have a really good range. I've tried others but much prefer this company.
If in emergency and you have no oil, talc is always an option. Still provides glide but messy.
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I've given up using oils, simply because they ruin the sheets >:(
Instead I use sorbelene cream or talcum powder, both seem to work fine for my short (ie less than half hour) massages.
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For any new people wanting advice on oils
I wanted to comment because:
1. My son has nut allergies so it's something I'm vary aware of, and I've seen clients with nut allergies.
2. I'm a qualified masseuse and have made a career of erotic massage since 2011.
Note: almond is classed as a nut for allergy purposes and some people are allerguc to almonds and to coconut. Some people are allergic to things , but not to the oil of those things. No one is allergic to grapeseed oil.
Best budget solution to all massage needs is Grapeseed oil - you can buy it in the supermarket next to olive oil etc.
I've never heard of anyone being allergic to it.
There is no nut warning on the bottle of grapeseed oil that I have here, and I can confirm those warnings are put on lots of things - just in case. - You can tell your client, show them the bottle, and give them the choice.
When we trained we learned Grapeseed was one of the 3 most popular base oils for "massage oil", and probably the most popular (due to low cost). When you buy "massage" oil you are probably buying mostly grapeseed oil.
It is ideal because - on its own - it does not smell.
The client will not need to shower afterwards.
And, like all vegetable based oils, it will sink into the skin.
Baby oil is not vegetable based. It has a roll in helping skin conditions but is not idea for massage at all - because of the smell and the fact that it doesn't absorb into the skin so clients need to wash it off.
Lubricants used by masseuses are these based in this order best/ most popular first:
1. Veg oil: Grapeseed, almond, coconut.
2. Other veg oils (yes supermarket cooking oil is perfectly good, it is only the smell of it that puts us off).
3. Creams - note creams are full of chemicals by default. They contain water and preservatives and fragrances. Therefore, people with very sensitive skin or allergies can have reactions to creams. The other downside is that creams are absorbed by the skin faster than veg oils.
4. Powders / talc
Note Baby oil is not on the list!
Finally. To keep oil clean & safe and uncontaminated I pour out what I intend to use into a separate bowl for each client. And unused oil from this bowl is thrown away. Bowls go in dishwasher afterwards.