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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: saturnspirit on 25 November 2013, 06:51:36 pm
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I am not sure where to put this
I have noticed there are a few newbies asking questions about working with escort agencies. Now i used to work with agencies and massage parlours before going completely independent and i just wanted to share some of these bad experiences when i was young and naive so other people may avoid my mistakes. Don't get me wrong i have also had great experiences with agencies but i am just highlighting some of the bad experiences.
Pedophile agency owner/ pimp - when i was just sweet 19 (really naive), i joined an entertainment agency in wales that offered strip - o- grams male and female, comedian acts, modelling and escorts. I originally told him i only wanted to do strip o gram jobs, so he took some photos for his "portfolio" in his house for the stripping/ modelling portfolio.
Well he convinced me to try escorting (when i look back it was real pimping!) I seen 5 clients at his house at ?120 an hour and all the time he was constantly trying to touch me up, get me to sleep with him, which i refused. He took 50% of my money at the end of the day and i never worked for him again as he was such a perv.
Well skip 2 years later and the police are knocking on my door. Asked if i had every worked for the agency and i told then no as it was years ago i couldn't remember. They left me their card and asked can I please come up the station for a chat (i wasn't in trouble). So i went for a chat and they basically told me they were investigating around 70 girls. They had raided this guys house, took his computer, mobile phones and were going through all the numbers. I registered my pay as you go phone with Vodafone for the top up a fiver and get unlimited weekend txts thing. That's how they had tracked me. Well they printed off these photos that were me (not nude just in schoolgirl outfit) my stripper photos that this guy had taken for the "stripping" portfolio. Now the police wanted someone to testify against him as he had thousands of child porn images and had taken on 13 and 14 year old girls and pimped them out and filmed them with the clients and sold to a peado ring. This guy had kept my number and my photos from 2 years and i only worked for him for one day! I told then what i knew which was limited and i had only done one day for him so i wasn't going to testify.
This agency guy ended up getting something like 12 years and he was all over the local papers. I thought to myself, i was so lucky that something bad didn't happen to me! And thinking back i wonder if those schoolgirl photos ended up any where else? I will never know.
Moral of the story - always use a unregistered mobile phone for agency work. Never let a agency owner take photos as you will never know where they end up!Get professional photos done yourself with a reputable photographer. And even though you aren't breaking the law working as an escort, you can end up tangled up with a police investigation, which is scary!
Another bad experience - aggressive/ blackmailing agency. Me and my friend went for an interview with a brand new agency. We met in a coffee shop. That's all the guy done was slag off all the established agencies. Then he said he wanted us to fill in forms with our name, address etc and wanted driving licence, forms of id etc. Now me and my friend refused blank.He said well none of the other girls have refused to give id. He didn't mention this on the phone. Then he's says your photos are rubbish, the agency needs to take some for you. I told him that was't necessary. Our working terms were we will get some new photos done ourselves and we are not giving any I'D. The guys like we will only use your id just to come and knock on your door if you owe us commission. What the F***?
Anyway he said he will be in touch and we couldn't work until we had professional photos taken. So we were off over the weekend then his "business partner" started sending aggressive and nasty emails to us saying that we owed her this much money as we weren't available. She had to turn bookings down that wanted to see us. And that we are lazy bitches and could have earned hundreds of pounds and she has lost customers and we owe her money!
I just ignored these emails. But thinking back what if i had been a naive and actually gave this "agency" my real details?
Would they have blackmailed me into giving them money and threatened to turn up at my house and expose me as a prostitute? I always wonder if any other escort had given their real details and had this abuse? Anyway the agency didn't last very long!
Moral of the story - Never give your real name. address etc to any agency. They can use it for blackmail.
Agency 3 -- a new business partner treating escorts like a piece of meat and seriously pimping them!
Now this was a well established agency that i had worked for a few years (i worked independently as well and used the agency to top up my bookings). The owner was an ex working girl and was lovely to work for. Her new boyfriend had a hotel/ B n B up in Blackpool and they were thinking of opening an agency in blackpool as well. So she asked for a couple of us girls to go up and work.Free accommodation at the hotel. And there was a big stag party that wanted bookings.
Anyway there were supposed to be three girls going and everyone else dropped out. So i went up on my own and because i had been working for this lady for years i trusted her and her new boyfriend! Big mistake!
So gets to the hotel, complete shit hole and i swear the room was haunted, had an awful feel to the place like some evil spirit was watching me. I know it sounds nuts but i just couldn't bear to be in my alloted room. It just felt evil!
So i assumed that the party was happening at this shithole of a hotel and the agency owners "boyfriend" lets call him "mark" told me the party was up a upmarket hotel and he would drive me there, i'd see the clients and then he'd pick me up when i had finished and that the percentage was 35%. It's normally 25%, but the agency owner did say the percentage would be more as she was splitting it with her boyfriend. So get to hotel, it's a black tie event and the hotel manager has allocated me a room.
Now all the horrible stuff happens. The hotel manager wanted a free service straight away and Mark had promised him this. Now i refuse and explain this to the manger and luckily he's a nice guy and actuality paid me full price and was a real gentleman. But imagine if i hadn't stuck to my guns! Would have done him for free!
So i ask Mark what time are the bookings. Oh there are no bookings. I have to go out and solicit for business and then they take a 35% cut! I'm feeling pretty vulnerable at this point! I was stuck at this hotel, been driven there by Mark, didn't have my car keys with me, didn't have hotel key with me as mark had this. What position had i put myself in!
So thought i'm going to try and do some clients, pay commission, earn my petrol money and then drive home tomorrow.
Now it gets even worse! I go and chat to some of the guys and they have already been informed that i am a hooker and that they are not prepared to pay more than ?50 for a quick service. My fees were ?150 an hour! Most of them had been taking coke, i seen 2 clients for quickies and both wanted bareback, which i declined. Then "Mark" gave all the drunk and coked up guys my room number. I had a queue of guys banging on my hotel door wanting services. Every guy i seen expected bareback. What the fuck had Mark promised!
I stopped after a couple told Mark i wanted to go back to the hotel. As i got in the car he made horrible remarks like "i suppose i will have to wipe my seat now! "I will also have to use dettle to clean the seats as well". Talking to me like i was a animal! He then had worked out how much i owed and wanted his 35%. So i threw the money at him, as soon as i got back to the hotel, i got straight in my car and drove home, this was 2am. I actually stopped in the services and slept in my car. I have never in my life felt so "pimped" and out of control. I was crying my eyes out all the way home back to wales and was really upset for a few days afterwards just crying and wanted to completely quit escorting. I immediately phoned the agency owner the next day and told her to stick her job!
Now the moral of the story is - Never Ever trust any agency owner. All they care about is making money. Never get yourself into a situation that you are stuck and feel you have no choice. Like i did. Always book your own hotel rooms to work from if working with an agency. Always have your car keys or money for a taxi on you incase you need to get out of a situation! Never feel pressured into seeing any clients you don't want to and stick to your prices!
This night really upset me. It only happened 2 1/2 years ago. I had been escorting for a few years and was experienced. The mistake i made was to trust the agency owner!
Some final tips
- Never give any I.D to an agency.
- Never give your real name/ address.
- I would advise against having the agency do your pictures. If you need professional photos be prepared to shell out a few hundred on a recommend glamour photographer. Photos are an investment and you can have the images blurred how you see fit.
- Never pay the agency via bank transfer from a personal account.
- Never sleep with an agency owner just to get work unless he is paying you the full rate!
- If doing incalls at an agency place, go and check the place out first before excepting any bookings.
- When having an interview, do so in a public place like a coffee shop.
Although i have written abut my bad experiences, i had worked for a few good agencies as well.
A good agency usually meets you for an initial interview and then you don't see them again! You will just email/ phone them with your availability and they should vet all the clients & bookings for you.
Then you just put the commission into their designated bank account and let them know commission has been paid.
I would never go back to agency or parlour work, but i don't regret it as it's a starting point for newbies to gain experience. But don't make the same mistakes that i did!
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Wow that was some read and an eye opener, I have never been in such a predicament and have a strict way in which I work thankfully learning from this site and other information I gathered. I am sure there will be many young, naive and inexperienced girls that hopefully benefit from the information on your post.
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Yes i was just thinking back to awful experiences i've had and thought i'd post.
I am so glad i'm an independent now. I feel so much more in control of my work and safety.
But i always think about newbies and hopefully they are going in with thier eyes wide open and not naive as when i started in this line of work.
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I've Stickied this for a bit, especially when we'll be getting the pre and post Christmas influx before long. We'll see about adding it onto the main site article too :).
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Wow Saturnspirit, thanks for sharing your experience, i also did agencies work and parlor work when i first started escorting, and god how many terrible experiences i had, Everything became so good as soon as i started independently
The agencies and Parlors normally dont care who you will see or if they are fucked up,all they want is the money.
I only meet one agency that was professional, but i might have just been unlucky.
I recommend to all girls to go independent and to have a good buddy. :)
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I don't have too horrible experience except for just one.
I went to an outcall, got raped and was left at the cheap motel, which turned out to be unpaid (was to be paid when checking out). And then agency got angry to me that I didn't bring them their cut. They were not thinking about that I was raped (he was brutal and aggressive), they were too busy to be angry at me. Agency boss was cursing and putting his anger towards me for a whole hour at the agency office. In front of everybody watching (drivers and IT techs for website).
It hurt me even more than rape itself.
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I went with a few different agencies when first starting out, they did fuck all to protect me and sent me to one guy in nottingham when they was supposed to of sent a different girl. The old fucker complained in the car I had to go with him to get his cash from a pub his friends were in. Then he gave me weed which I shouldnt of smoked but ended up shortchnaging me saying at the edn oh sorry thought I had more than that in my pocket. Then i ended up stranded n cause they was ringing me when I was still in there and I didnt answer it she rang me n said u need to pay ur last bit of muns to the agency tomorrow.. stupid bitchs expect u to give them half the money u have worked for while they just sit on their fat asses all day taking calls. n went mad at u if u couldnt make a call in the same 20 mins the called you in derby escorts this was as well I coudldnt see the site a while ago though so maybe they went bust or something or got reported as they were cunts
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This is an excellent post, very helpful and I hope others really do take note xx
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I've never worked for an agency per'se but i had a near miss with one who offered me an interview
Has been mentioned before somewhere on the site but this guy is definitely one to avoid [removed] his name his [removed].
He claims to be an agency but he really is just a perv with a phone and a computer.
He targets young girls, late teens and early twenties, and tells them that unless they sleep with him in the "interview" process, then they'll not get work. He tells the girls they'll earn at least ?500 per night yet sends them out at ?110 per hour and lets them keep only ?50 of that fee. He's also extremely verbally abusive and i myself have been on the receiving end of his threats for rejecting his not so appealing offer of working for his grotty "agency"
He's based in London and is at the top of the google search results for 'london escorts' but that's only because he's paid to be there. Avoid him at all costs ladies.
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I went to work for one agency 4 weeks ago. It was an incall flat, East Croydon or South Croydon. I had a bad feeling getting there but the woman on the phone sounded lovely.
I was lucky. I got there and almost had a heart attack. The other girl, and let's not talk about her looks, was completely coked or something, I can't tell I never did drugs. So I said since I must wait for the manager let me pop out get a soda.
And then I just started running!
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Thanks so much for sharing your stories Saturnspirit.
I was thinking of joining an agency, as I find adultwork too confusing. And because I dont have any field reports yet, I dont seem to get very many emails except some time wasters. I thought an agency could help me out finding the right clients for me, without making 'beginner mistakes'. But maybe I'm wrong.... So being an indie is the best, right?
Sounds so scary, you trust an agency with your details or photos... and god know what they do with them... completely playing with your trust!
I was contacted by a London agency on my AW profile... (Im not sure if names are allowed to be mentioned here..?) But I am unsure if they are a trustworthy agency... how will I know?
I will definitely take note and am thankful you shared this post.
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Wow Saturnspirit, thank you so much for sharing. Don't know what I would have done without you. I'm just starting out and would have made so many stupid mistakes. I have an interview scheduled with an Agency in Newcastle next week. I will definitely take your advice and story seriously and use it to judge how the agency is.
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Always be independent, but be very fussy who you meet and do as many checks on the guy as possible. Always, always, always speak to them on the phone first and never accept withheld numbers.
If you are ever in doubt or have that gut feeling - do NOT agree to meet.
Your gut instinct is always more reliable than any agency.
Am sure there are some good agencies out there. I worked for 3 agencies in the early days. Even the good one out of the three, could sometimes be bad (if that makes sense).
Please remember - your/our safety is more important than money. I had several lucky escapes when I was with an agency. x
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Always be independent, but be very fussy who you meet and do as many checks on the guy as possible. Always, always, always speak to them on the phone first and never accept withheld numbers.
If you are ever in doubt or have that gut feeling - do NOT agree to meet.
Your gut instinct is always more reliable than any agency.
Am sure there are some good agencies out there. I worked for 3 agencies in the early days. Even the good one out of the three, could sometimes be bad (if that makes sense).
Please remember - your/our safety is more important than money. I had several lucky escapes when I was with an agency. x
+1 million to this.
No amount of money is ever worth being in a dangerous situation or ending up in a situation you can't get out of. You won't die if you don't make that ?100.
And I don't think your gut instinct is ever far wrong.
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I have to give another point of view just for newbies sake.
There are many great agencies out there, often you'll find the best ones through word of mouth from other girls in the industry
30% is about average for commission I think, and of course you shouldn't ever do anything for free with agency owner or anyone for that matter. But if you use common sense and move around to see where you're happiest agencies can be a great place to start to get a client base.
Adultwork can be very complicated for anyone who's starting out, I couldn't have done it, mainly because I didn't have my own flat but 30% can be a bargain to have everything done for you, all you do is turn up and work
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I have to give another point of view just for newbies sake.
There are many great agencies out there, often you'll find the best ones through word of mouth from other girls in the industry
30% is about average for commission I think, and of course you shouldn't ever do anything for free with agency owner or anyone for that matter. But if you use common sense and move around to see where you're happiest agencies can be a great place to start to get a client base.
Adultwork can be very complicated for anyone who's starting out, I couldn't have done it, mainly because I didn't have my own flat but 30% can be a bargain to have everything done for you, all you do is turn up and work
I do agree that there are some good agencies out there as well. I worked for a fab agency for a few years until the recession hit and the agency closed down. But my post was to tell of mistakes I have made, to stop other girls making the same ones as me. There are far more bad agencies rather than good agencies.
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Completely agree with there being more bad than good, this sticky is vital for newbies. I didn't mean to come across as though I disagreed, I just saw some new girls comments thinking that it's either indie or nothing, it's just to give the reassurance to the ones that want to try agencies that's it's still a viable option as long as you have your wits about you is all I mean
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Completely agree with there being more bad than good, this sticky is vital for newbies. I didn't mean to come across as though I disagreed, I just saw some new girls comments thinking that it's either indie or nothing, it's just to give the reassurance to the ones that want to try agencies that's it's still a viable option as long as you have your wits about you is all I mean
The problem is that newbies don't generally know many (or any) 'other girls in the industry', and whilst (just like everything else) there are going to be better and worse, somebody with no idea how to spot the difference or what to look for is a sitting duck for the real scumbags, who often target their recruitment drives squarely towards them because they know that experienced prossies will have them rumbled in seconds. We've all seen the 'Join An Escort Agency And Make Thousands A Week - No Experience Necessary!!!' ads, even on here.
If there is an appropriate place for agencies, I'd say it was for those same experienced ladies who wanted a few extra bookings and to hand over some of the admin/advertising stuff to somebody else if they couldn't be bothered - although I can't imagine ever agreeing to see somebody I hadn't screened myself, I realise that others are OK with it. I can't for the life of me see how a fee for this would amount to a third of my earnings though, unless they were providing an incall place (which would make it brothel work rather than the sort of trad agency stuff the posts on this thread are generally about).
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Maybe it depends on your location. Right now I do both, indie and agency. For me, there's no way I could survive financially/mentally being indie, there's just not the volume of serious clients via independent means as there is when working through an agency.
I would much prefer to be indie of course, and as you say it is bloody hard parting with a third, but in Newcastle anyway there just doesn't seem to be a decent amount of clients seeking indies to make it viable
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Also to add, it's only through agencies I've met other wg's and probably become less naive far quicker than any indie could being so isolated
I don't run an agency! Promise, haha, I just know the upsides have been well worth it for me personally
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I don't see the point of working via a agency.
As there are few bisexual male escorts out there i do get enough work to keep me going.
But this does lead to me getting emails and phone calls wanting me to join up with them and they tell me there not a agency and are just trying to get me more work.
At first i was interested and asked them to explain there selves and then they reveal there true colors by asking for a lump sum of money up front,stuff that as there are better things i could be doing with my hard earned money,as i want to promote myself and don't need people doing it for me.
It is all a con as you'll probably not get any work or less than what you did by promoting yourself x :FF :FF :FF
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I like working both agency and indie, although the latter takes priority, they are nice filler! 8)
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I like working both agency and indie, although the latter takes priority, they are nice filler! 8)
Im currently working as Indie but in the process of joining an agency. Im not getting enough work by myself to pay the bills unfortunately. How do you manage your time between your own bookings and agency? xx
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I'm also seriously considering joining an agency. I was also wondering how you juggle your indie work plus agency work and which agencies are good ones in London? Also are you expected to do anyone n everyone? Cos as an indie I don't see Asian men. And how do they vet punters?
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I can only talk about one agency that I know the ins and outs of, and it is in Edinburgh - the ones in London may be different.
At this agency, yes you really have to go to whoever they send you to. You wouldn't be able to refuse because he's Asian. When a guy books they take his name and address or name and hotel room number. And a mobile number - they don't ask for landlines. No, this agency doesn't vet clients....they say they do, but they don't and the amount of jobs that are wind ups or don't answer the door, or just want a look are massive. They do have a driver, so you do have someone with you sometimes, but not always. You are also (and I think this is the case with most agencies) 'on call', so if you say you're working Saturday, that means if she phones with a job for you on Sunday morning at 3am, you will be expected to be ready and with the guy within half an hour, so really you either have to sleep with your make up on and just doze in the chair, or stay up. You can't really go to bed. If you miss a job because you're sleeping, you won't get any more jobs for a while in retaliation, that usually lasts 7-10 days, but if someone specifically wants you she might lift the ban quicker. This particular agency also checks viva st and adultwork looking for girls who work for her.
Funny when you think that they agency actually works for you, isn't it?
This is just one agency though, but I can only speak about the one that I know. I'm sure there are good ones out there.
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Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but if you do join an agency don't tell them you are advertising yourself anywhere. I called one yesterday with a view to get more outcall bookings whilst I build my website etc & she told me I'd have to take my adverts down. I'd already used my work number & photos on the application form.
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Ive only just gone independant after a long time working in parlours and for agencies!
Stay away ladies! These women who run these places are no better than pimps!
Here are some examples of how i was treated
I had a client who was quite rough and he accidently gave me a nose bleed. I phoned the "boss" and told her that i felt unwell i didnt want to work any more. considering id worked from 10 am and it was now 7pm, and id earnt her alot of money. she insisted i carried on till 10 pm.
I had a horrible client who talked about children during the session. I told him to get the f**k out. After speaking to other girls working for that agency who had experienced the same, i asked my boss, " why do you keep booking him?" she replied "its all money love"
At the end of the day, its your body. It wasnt until i went independent that i realised how shit i was treated and how much i could really earn.How can anyone justify taking phone calls from men they have never met and send them to other women? then to take a cut of the money.
At least if you are independent YOU call the shots. If you take a call and it doesnt sound right, dont book him. YOUR BODY YOUR DECiSIONS!!! please dont do it ladies.xxx Be your own boss, call your own shots xx
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First off I want to thank you SS for sharing this (and Amy for making it a sticky!)
I too have been trying to decide whether to go indie or with an agency. There seems to be benefits/disadvantages with both:
INDIE PRO'S
-100% income
-more flexibility
CON'S
-more effort to "hustle" (marketing, responding to messages etc)
PARLOUR/AGENCY PROS
-gain initial experience
-a management team "hustling" on your behalf
-more social experience
CONS
-a % taken from your earnings
-less flexible
-no screening process
- Never give any I.D to an agency.
- Never give your real name/ address.
Now, I can fully understand your reasons above, but on the other hand, if you dont provide an agency/parlour with your ID, how can they prove one is over the age/legal to work as as escort?
I know that on AW, theres a verification process and some girls choose to not verify themselves but surely it would raise red flags with potential if you are not verified?
Would be great if someone could elaborate on my above queries so I can fully understand :-\
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Now, I can fully understand your reasons above, but on the other hand, if you dont provide an agency/parlour with your ID, how can they prove one is over the age/legal to work as as escort?
As far as being over the age, not everyone is even remotely near their teens, so appearance alone would be enough in a lot of cases. I mean, I wish I could say that I look 18~ but I don't, and I'm only 25, so I'd imagine it gets even more clear cut the higher up you go. ;D
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Confirming you're 18+ still doesn't mean anybody needs to see your personal details - all that's relevant is your photograph and date of birth.
If you're really in the mood for pimp-appeasing, just cover everything else up (legal name, place of birth, passport number, the code along the bottom of the page) with tape and don't let it out of your sight. And don't forget to ask to see theirs too :D.
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just cover everything else up (legal name, place of birth, passport number, the code along the bottom of the page) with tape and don't let it out of your sight. And don't forget to ask to see theirs too :D.
Amazing, thanks!
I guess in my mind initially, I was thinking that its normal procedure for any employer to ask for personal details, thats why I was confused - but then again, this is a cash in hand job!
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Well it's nothing to do with how we get paid and everything to do with an agency pimp not being an employer - sex work is self employed, which is why agencies don't offer PAYE, proper holiday/sick pay, maternity leave and so forth. We employ them (to act as our agents and find us work) and we pay them, not the other way round.
It doesn't do any harm to have this reinforced again if for no reason other than to remind people that we're all responsible for our own recordkeeping, tax returns and so on whether we use agents or not. The fact that they're illegal operations is neither here nor there :).
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So glad this thread is here to warn newbies against being taken advantage of! I'm fairly new myself but went the agency route and I'm glad I did. I was really cautious when I looked for an agency because I knew about the potholes. It took me a long time to find a good one and it is a little difficult to part with the commission but there was no way I could start by going independent right off the bat. Maybe in the future when I've had a couple more years of experience and some regulars under my belt I will try indie ;)
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I never lasted in an agency too long ::)
1) I worked for a busy agency in Cardiff, the drove me for about an hour for an outcall... and when I opened the door I see 2 guys (not 1!) in a crappy hotel room... I run back to the driver and he says "you will be ok, they seem like nice guys" but I said NO and we came back to Cardiff
Why would they go so far for an outcall? :FF there was enough work in Cardiff
I'm independent and I never go very far for an outcall nor I travel to people based in "the middle of nowhere" , if something was about to go wrong I would be stuck, why would I put myself in vulnerable position?
2) I had phonecall interviews with "bosses" wanting to have freebie sex with me in order to get me some work
3) I worked for a day in crappy flat in Bethnal Green, I got sacked as I refused most of the services the client asked for, the girl on the phone promised everything apparently.... "girls" working there looked around 50, and not very attractive 50
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Some scary stories here on agency working. I have been indie only all the way apart from my first 6 months working and that was with an agency. I liked the way the work came in when I had no responsibility of advertising and answering calls and did both in and outcall but what began to bother me was clients who kept rebooking me. I became popular and could not complain at the amount of bookings but some of the men were really awful to spend time with. Not dirty or rough, just men I didn't want to see a second time. I found I could get away with the very occasional refusal to see one if I played on the agent and said he was unbearable etc. but constant refusal would have ruined it all and I probably would have been taken off the site.
I decided the only way was to brave it out and go independent then I could choose who I wanted to see again, within reason of course. The number of bookings I got was less but by no means worrying. I have managed well ever since and it is my sole income.
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I attempted to work for an agency several times..
1. "Agency" knew only Adultwork, they didn't have their own website because they want clients to think girls are independent, they lied about nearly everything
2. Agency put me on a night shift, all my clients were coked up and they tried to persuade me to take some too. Before I started, I told the agency I won't see drugged up clients but hey, why would they care... The girls had to sit in the car all night, if you don't do any drugs and you have to sit there with hyperactive girls on coke you know how it feels like
3. Agency abroad, "high class" style, apartment in the shitty building, the owner told me there would be only 2-3 girls in the flat, it was usually 6-7, they send girls anywhere without checking, they accepted clearly dodgy clients, one time they send a girl for an outcall in taxi and some nutter locked her up in the basement for all day, however the agency wasn't interested where she was and why she hasn't contacted them...
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I attempted to work for an agency several times..
1. "Agency" knew only Adultwork, they didn't have their own website because they want clients to think girls are independent, they lied about nearly everything
2. Agency put me on a night shift, all my clients were coked up and they tried to persuade me to take some too. Before I started, I told the agency I won't see drugged up clients but hey, why would they care... The girls had to sit in the car all night, if you don't do any drugs and you have to sit there with hyperactive girls on coke you know how it feels like
3. Agency abroad, "high class" style, apartment in the shitty building, the owner told me there would be only 2-3 girls in the flat, it was usually 6-7, they send girls anywhere without checking, they accepted clearly dodgy clients, one time they send a girl for an outcall in taxi and some nutter locked her up in the basement for all day, however the agency wasn't interested where she was and why she hasn't contacted them...
OMG That is shocking and its the kind of agency that needs 'shut' down if you get me? I used to work for an agency up in Edinburgh from 2009 - 2011 and I remember a client calling and he wanted to pick one of the girl's up in his cab & he didn't want anyone of us to see him barr the girl he went with, BIG FLASHING ALARM BELL'S started to go off here; his excuse was 'I'm shy, married etc etc' & the boss actually turned to us and asked which one of us wanted to go to this job & at this time there was only 2 of us W.G's in the office incl. me & I turned around and was like 'But he could take us ANYWHERE & DO ANYTHING'!! & My bosses answer was actually 'well we have his phone number'!! pfft like that meant anything, anyway the other girl; who had a heavy drug habit at the time, was stating that she'd do it as I clearly wouldn't have and I did have a word but I understand that drug habit's don't wait and they will make you do things that you wouldn't normally do but she insisted & the GREEDY GREEDY boss was encouraging her saying 'well it may be the only thing you make tonight' bla bla bla and thank god in the end the guy didn't call back BUT in my bosses defence if the girl didn't check out on the button then the boss wouldn't have let it go IF only for her agency fee but she would have hunted the guy down until she got the girl!!
That situation is more than enough to make anyone hang up their thongs for good; is the girl okay now? Did he assault her or is that a really stupid question?xx
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Wow I only been do it for about 1 year only use aw and got someone to look after me I think if that had happened to me I wouldn't still be doing it
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wow I never really thought twice of giving my ID to agencies - that is scary!
The agency I worked for required ID and professional photos from everyone - no ID or photos, no working and you won't be advertised until they are taken. Clients also - they have to bring ID to every booking, even if regulars. Their reasoning was if they were raided from law enforcement they have to prove every girl and client there is 18+ with their government IDs, or it gets shut down, and for photos they said they want everyone to use the same photographer so it is up to their standards and the photog is trusted to not share them anywhere else or show WG's face pics/personal traits like tattoos. For outcalls, a lot less strict but for any incall we had to have IDs on us and prove they were ours in case of raid
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wow I never really thought twice of giving my ID to agencies - that is scary!
The agency I worked for required ID and professional photos from everyone - no ID or photos, no working and you won't be advertised until they are taken. Clients also - they have to bring ID to every booking, even if regulars. Their reasoning was if they were raided from law enforcement they have to prove every girl and client there is 18+ with their government IDs, or it gets shut down, and for photos they said they want everyone to use the same photographer so it is up to their standards and the photog is trusted to not share them anywhere else or show WG's face pics/personal traits like tattoos. For outcalls, a lot less strict but for any incall we had to have IDs on us and prove they were ours in case of raid
That's a aload of bollocks though because if the agency got closed down it would be because basically running an agency is illegal.If an agency got raided it would be shut down regardless of ages of clients and the sex workers on their books if they were letting underage people be on their books that would be an added charge for the agency owner.
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".....The agency I worked for required ID and professional photos from everyone - no ID or photos, no working and you won't be advertised until they are taken. Clients also - they have to bring ID to every booking, even if regulars. Their reasoning was if they were raided from law enforcement they have to prove every girl and client there is 18+ with their government IDs, or it gets shut down..."
Yes, because nothing screams "underage" like a 50 year old investment banker ;D. plus he would be delighted to handle his ID to some dodgy pimps he just met over the internet. I'm sorry but this sounds bollocks to me as NO ONE in this business asks clients for an ID. An agency who does that has the word "blackmail" written all over them and would last 2 days.
I can understand their need to ask their employess for an ID (to check out if they're underage I guess) but clients? Please...
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Yes, because nothing screams "underage" like a 50 year old investment banker ;D. plus he would be delighted to handle his ID to some dodgy pimps he just met over the internet. I'm sorry but this sounds bollocks to me as NO ONE in this business asks clients for an ID. An agency who does that has the word "blackmail" written all over them and would last 2 days.
I can understand their need to ask their employess for an ID (to check out if they're underage I guess) but clients? Please...
I never really thought of it I guess, they had been an escort service with about 100-150 escorts for 30 or so years, and had been raided a few times (because some weirdo would come in with drugs, or a camera or something and if he wouldn't leave or was violent they would call police, who would then check everyone's ID) was never shut down.
Like I said before though this is only for incall and if we go into their office. If it was outcall, they would screen with the info the caller gave but otherwise it was supposedly up to us.
If I am freestyling I typically ask for a business card then give them mine (only name + cell number), which serves both the purpose of showing what I am there for and for quick screening.
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I think Silencieuse is in the US, so things a bit different?
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I don't have too horrible experience except for just one.
I went to an outcall, got raped and was left at the cheap motel, which turned out to be unpaid (was to be paid when checking out). And then agency got angry to me that I didn't bring them their cut. They were not thinking about that I was raped (he was brutal and aggressive), they were too busy to be angry at me. Agency boss was cursing and putting his anger towards me for a whole hour at the agency office. In front of everybody watching (drivers and IT techs for website).
It hurt me even more than rape itself.
this makes difficult reading, ruthless people.
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Agencies requesting ID are doing it to cover their own ass legally.
If I had an agency, I would request ID. And if it were a place with lots of raids, targeted investigation from the Police etc - I would request full proof of working rights in the UK.
There is no need not to trust a reputable agency with your identification. Many request bank transfer for fees rather than cash.
Them knowing who you are is a positive thing. When you get chopped up and put in a bin with an unidentifiable body and only blurred images you've photoshopped to the point of people not recognising it's you, or go missing and never return from a booking - you are probably going to wish that you gave them your ID so you could easily be identified as per a Police investigation. They are the first point of call for information if your safety is compromised, it's very stupid not to give them your real details if anything were to ever happen.
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Agencies requesting ID are doing it to cover their own ass legally.
If I had an agency, I would request ID. And if it were a place with lots of raids, targeted investigation from the Police etc - I would request full proof of working rights in the UK.
There is no need not to trust a reputable agency with your identification. Many request bank transfer for fees rather than cash.
Them knowing who you are is a positive thing. When you get chopped up and put in a bin with an unidentifiable body and only blurred images you've photoshopped to the point of people not recognising it's you, or go missing and never return from a booking - you are probably going to wish that you gave them your ID so you could easily be identified as per a Police investigation. They are the first point of call for information if your safety is compromised, it's very stupid not to give them your real details if anything were to ever happen.
I think your safety is past the stage of comprised if as you so elequantly put it "chopped up and put in the bin" I'd rather trust forensics or scooby do to solve the mystery of who killed the prossie than trust a pimp/agency with my personal details. I'd rather the client hand over their details to the agency when wanting to book.
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Like a lot of girls I started out with an agency - what a horrible way to operate! It was all night shift, they expected me to sit in a car and wait for bookings to come in until 5/6 in the morning. The problem was often there were no bookings coming in! I'd spend whole nights out and not take home a penny. The girls that worked the phones worked alternate weeks and one of them didn't like me for some reason so she'd never give me work, which meant a whole week with no income.
But by far the worst was how often they ripped me off. Clients who paid by bank transfer were a nightmare because the agency would always find a reason to not pay you the full amount.
Looking back it makes me so angry that the took advantage of my naivety, and no doubt are still taking advantage of newbies throughout the North West!
If only there were more reputable agencies that could be promoted here for new girls.
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I'm both agency and independent and although I actually really like my agency because they are extremely good, reading this makes me realise just how lucky I've been. On the one occasion a booking has gone seriously wrong for me, they were so helpful, gave me all the advice I needed, rang to ask if I was okay, gave me the details of my nearest REACH centre and asked me if I was okay to work and to take as much time as I needed if not. I even had a problem with a stalker after I went independent as well, so it was nothing to do with them, but when I told the owner she immediately rang me to ask if I was okay, despite her being away on holiday, and asked me to tell her everything that had happened and then gave me advice on what to do and even helped narrow down who could be causing all the issues for me by using her own knowledge and connections. But having read this thread I would definitely be extra vigilant if I ever changed agencies for whatever reason.
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I'm both agency and independent and although I actually really like my agency because they are extremely good, reading this makes me realise just how lucky I've been. On the one occasion a booking has gone seriously wrong for me, they were so helpful, gave me all the advice I needed, rang to ask if I was okay, gave me the details of my nearest REACH centre and asked me if I was okay to work and to take as much time as I needed if not. I even had a problem with a stalker after I went independent as well, so it was nothing to do with them, but when I told the owner she immediately rang me to ask if I was okay, despite her being away on holiday, and asked me to tell her everything that had happened and then gave me advice on what to do and even helped narrow down who could be causing all the issues for me by using her own knowledge and connections. But having read this thread I would definitely be extra vigilant if I ever changed agencies for whatever reason.
I should bloody think so too! Agent rings girl on books to check she is still alive and in one piece. Agents get a lot of bad press and often rightly so but any person running an agency has a duty to support and look after the escorts as it is the agent who has accepted the booking and the girl has little or no say in who she is booked with.
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I should bloody think so too! Agent rings girl on books to check she is still alive and in one piece. Agents get a lot of bad press and often rightly so but any person running an agency has a duty to support and look after the escorts as it is the agent who has accepted the booking and the girl has little or no say in who she is booked with.
Haha true! But I mean they reminded me of things I hadn't even thought of like to avoid washing until I'd had a chance to be seen at REACH (gross but necessary)
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I think most agency owners you cannot trust and in my time of working i have only come across a couple of agency owners that were fair but you would not always know this until later and by that time they could have all your details. I would not want an agency now days having my address and un blurred photos but i also have to spin it around to another angle if an agency takes you on with no id or address or anything then where is the safety if anything went wrong and they had to report you missing and if there running a business your banking the fees etc and there doing things a bit legit by them paying tax they should really also have a copy of your passport etc to check your above age and not illegal in the country and what happens if the escort robbed a customer he comes back saying he is going to police and you have no details for the escort.
I would not want to give my details to an agency because some owners are dodgy and criminals but i understand why they want your details but this is why i choose not to approach an agency for work because most will want your id.
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I had a terrible incident with an agency. I gave them a copy of my ID in good faith, and then when I left, they refused to take my pictures down and sent me threatening messages, where they threatened to contact my family, my university, etc and tell them what I was doing for a living. In the end, i had to contact the guys who made the website, and I also contacted the police (who were actually very understanding about it all). I also worked for another agency in London, where the owner demanded he 'test out' the goods. I shan't repeat what I said to him here, but it wasn't pretty. In my experiences, agencies are greedy, and very rarely give a damn about the girls.
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I did go to the police, and they said there was nothing they could do. I ended up contacting the website host and getting it removed through there, but it was a bloody stressful experience.
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When I first moved to London it was my first time working in the UK so I didn’t know what to expect. I joined two top agencies in London (the pretentious ones that don’t let you charge less than £300 an hour types) and because I was 20 at the time, young and “exotic” they both courted me. Turns out both agencies have grief amongst each other and both let me go because I wanted to be with two agencies. They just see us as commodities without considering us as actual humans. I would say to anyone agencies can be good to try when starting off but keep your personal best interests in mind.
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At the beginning of the year I worked for a popular local agency (I freelanced before) and to be honest they did nothing to protect me, had their favourite girls who got the lions share of the work and failed to pass information about clients (about what they were like). I'm now back to being fully independent and frankly it is difficult to get a name for yourself to start with but persevere the benefits more than outweigh the negatives. And I get to keep ALL of my hard earned cash, not just a third of it!
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Some of these experiences sound really terrible! When I was looking for an agency to join one thing I noticed was really bad photoshopping of escorts, like warped backgrounds and stuff! And some shocking web design! I guess that pales in comparison but wow such bad taste lol! The agency I joined have been good so far, don't take a third and pay for ads for the escorts. It's not as busy as I would like though, maybe only the cutthroat ones are busy, but at least I can do indie work too if and when.
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I just wouldn't work for an agency again. I also think agencies are a dying breed, because alot of people prefer going to independents now.
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When I started I worked for 2 local agencies. Turned out both were actually run by working girls. I barely got any bookings and the ones I did get were guys I would never have seen as an independent (all wanted services I did not provide). I would meet numerous guys after I'd gone independent who told me they'd tried to book me through these agencies, but were always told I was busy. I can only guess the women running these 'agencies' were using their websites to bring themselves bookings and only giving away the bookings they would not do themselves.
No way would I work for someone else again.
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I just wouldn't work for an agency again. I also think agencies are a dying breed, because alot of people prefer going to independents now.
This was about to be my post made!
I worked for an agency, and with that i ended up homeless, cocaine addict and when my 'boss' told me he would take care of me, he took complete advantage of me in my hardest times! I was young and vulnerable, agencies are the worst place for women like that i do believe!
Independant is hard to get used to i thought, coming from an agency i still had a lot of bad habits but working for myself has completely changed my life, attitude and personality!
Independants know what THEY want to do, at an agency you loose the choice to choose your clientelle. your working hours, and how much you charge.
I personally would be more than happy to offer any advice to anyone having been in the industry 5years, and having hit rock bottom and worked my way back up, i would be happy to help anyone who needs advice on this! PM me if you need any advice etc.
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Great post! Hopefully, others will take the time to read.
AG x
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I can only talk about one agency that I know the ins and outs of, and it is in Edinburgh - the ones in London may be different.
At this agency, yes you really have to go to whoever they send you to. You wouldn't be able to refuse because he's Asian. When a guy books they take his name and address or name and hotel room number. And a mobile number - they don't ask for landlines. No, this agency doesn't vet clients....they say they do, but they don't and the amount of jobs that are wind ups or don't answer the door, or just want a look are massive. They do have a driver, so you do have someone with you sometimes, but not always. You are also (and I think this is the case with most agencies) 'on call', so if you say you're working Saturday, that means if she phones with a job for you on Sunday morning at 3am, you will be expected to be ready and with the guy within half an hour, so really you either have to sleep with your make up on and just doze in the chair, or stay up. You can't really go to bed. If you miss a job because you're sleeping, you won't get any more jobs for a while in retaliation, that usually lasts 7-10 days, but if someone specifically wants you she might lift the ban quicker. This particular agency also checks viva st and adultwork looking for girls who work for her.
Funny when you think that they agency actually works for you, isn't it?
This is just one agency though, but I can only speak about the one that I know. I'm sure there are good ones out there.
I had a very similar experience with an agency. Obsessive controlling behaviour, paranoia, liked they owned you. It was like being stuck in a prison that you weren’t able to leave until you were “allowed” to go home.
When a couple of us finally got the courage to leave we experienced constant harassment for several months, unknown numbers blocking our phones, calls to the police, attempts to hack out AW accounts or get them pulled down and the final straw were text messages threatening to out us to friends and family on social media. In the end I was so exhausted (and scared to be honest) that I responded by saying I was going to the police as it was now blackmail. It pretty much slowed down from that point. It was a horrific experience and these were women who were running the agency. Women threatening other women no better than pimps.
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This was about to be my post made!
I worked for an agency, and with that i ended up homeless, cocaine addict and when my 'boss' told me he would take care of me, he took complete advantage of me in my hardest times! I was young and vulnerable, agencies are the worst place for women like that i do believe!
Independant is hard to get used to i thought, coming from an agency i still had a lot of bad habits but working for myself has completely changed my life, attitude and personality!
Independants know what THEY want to do, at an agency you loose the choice to choose your clientelle. your working hours, and how much you charge.
I personally would be more than happy to offer any advice to anyone having been in the industry 5years, and having hit rock bottom and worked my way back up, i would be happy to help anyone who needs advice on this! PM me if you need any advice etc.
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I have not in over 20 years of escorting been with and nor would I ever go with a agency.
They control, manipulate and destroy :'(
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Wouldn't you think that agencies run by ex working girls would understand everything there is to know, and offer help especially to a girl who has never done this before.
Look at the beauty industry and how salons treat their staff. It's the same.
Look after you staff and they will stay loyal and the trust is built up. Treat your staff like shit and they will leave.
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I had personal bad experiences with agencies because I don't have the qualities they wanted. That is, easily manipulated, able to tolerate smelly/rude/very demanding clients, and able to work at odd hours ::)
The agenda of the agency is to make as much money as possible. When the push comes to shove, they would choose money above the girl's comfort/even safety. From my experience, it has been this way -I was sent to bad clients who paid well.
Anyone reading this must decide if the money is worth it.
It used to be that agencies had all the best clients and introduced girls to them. The little black book of Johns - glamorous ideas of what an agency should be. No doubt, there are still some rare agencies worth joining. Nowadays, anyone can have a website and set up an agency. They may be clueless, or bad people, it doesn't matter. Why would any girl want to work with them if they're that dumb and careless.
Much easier now to be independent with the social media and self advertising. And the money made through an agency is not even that good...compared to clever indie advertising.
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I had personal bad experiences with agencies because I don't have the qualities they wanted. That is, easily manipulated, able to tolerate smelly/rude/very demanding clients, and able to work at odd hours ::)
The agenda of the agency is to make as much money as possible. When the push comes to shove, they would choose money above the girl's comfort/even safety. From my experience, it has been this way -I was sent to bad clients who paid well.
Anyone reading this must decide if the money is worth it.
It used to be that agencies had all the best clients and introduced girls to them. The little black book of Johns - glamorous ideas of what an agency should be. No doubt, there are still some rare agencies worth joining. Nowadays, anyone can have a website and set up an agency. They may be clueless, or bad people, it doesn't matter. Why would any girl want to work with them if they're that dumb and careless.
Much easier now to be independent with the social media and self advertising. And the money made through an agency is not even that good...compared to clever indie advertising.
There’s not a lot of nice people that make money from us, they’re not nice at all and they treat you like shit.
I have worked in parlours and agencies and I have since found out that a parlour I worked in had trafficked girls back in the day (not anymore) there from all over Eastern Europe and Thailand, if I had known this I never would have worked for them.
I could never take money from a hooker knowing how she got that money, it’s wrong and thankfully illegal.
Greedy fuckers is what they are, the parlour I worked in used to charge you £50 for a missed shift and this is regardless of you being unwell, if you showed a doctors line then this would stop the fine, ffs your self employed and they’re calling the shots in more ways than one.
That parlour also hated the girls getting friendly with each other and infact she stipulated that the reception staff weren’t allowed to socialise with the girls outside of work!! Can you fucking believe the cheek of this?! Telling grown women who to be friends with, this is the power they tried to wield over us.
God that manager was a nasty bitch and was so fake with her concern over us, this was after they got raided right enough.
Agencies that look after their girls aren’t as busy as the ones that put the clients first, says a lot about the men that use them and none of them good.
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I have worked in parlours and agencies and I have since found out that a parlour I worked in had trafficked girls back in the day (not anymore) there from all over Eastern Europe and Thailand, if I had known this I never would have worked for them.
Very inhumane. Lots of shady things like this still going on at some parlours.
Yes, bad client behaviour is overlooked by agencies. I have the feeling some clients go to agencies when they fail the screening by indies
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I'd get random calls from Thai pimps offered girls as you would a puppy. Maybe this is how they're provided for agencies and parlours?
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I'd get random calls from Thai pimps offered girls as you would a puppy. Maybe this is how they're provided for agencies and parlours?
Sad, and not surprising.
Why would any agency/parlour accept girls who are coerced to work/have a pimp to apply for work on their behalf. Unless they are complicit
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I have only ever worked for two agencies before deciding to go completely independent and here was my experience with both:
First agency i worked for this really bizarre woman Let's call her Sue. She would always push the fact i was 'independent' despite her taking 40%. She was literally never ever around. My first day i arrived at the apartment and sat for 6 hours with this girl who was working there that day untill she showed up to help me set up a profile (as i had never done it before and didnt know what to do, she knew i was coming she told me to come at that time). She was always very unreliable, addicted to cocaine, irrational and a massive compulsive liar. The girls that worked there were mainly problematic. There was this one girl who was super problematic and i complained to Sue about her and obviously, because i was very busy she didnt want me to leave, so she gave me this massive speech about how we've become such good friends etc etc and obvsiouly she is going to get rid of her. Cut to two weeks, she didn't know i was coming and when i got to the flat there guess who was there working with Sue (who constantly said she was an ex escort and doesn't do it anymore but all the only girls said she still did it just from her home address)... She also told me she was studying a degree in psychology, however when i questioned her (i had studied psychology for 4 years) on things such as what she wanted to do with her degree or what her degree entails she was very vague and didnt seem to know alot (ANYTHING) about psychology. Whenever i needed her assistance she would always tell me she was 'at the library'.... She would have to meet me sometimes to let me in, and then other girls would arrive on a 'don't tell Sue im here so i don't have to leave any money'. I would leave money and the other girls would often tell me not to put my 40% in (probably so they could tell Sue on me, i was very busy i guess cause i was new and i would have 5 clients for every 1 they had). This was a well established 'whore house' in the sense that she had the apartment for a long time. I can remember one time i was staying overnight because there was a new girl who was just NINETEEN and had come to London from Northern England and i didn't want her to stay on her own (as i knew the area had some dodgy clients) and a client shows up coked up, drunk at 4am demanding to see 'the black girl" (there were only black girls working in this flat, i was the only white girl) and the 19 year old ended up seeing him and after his time he refused to leave for ages. Stuff like this happened all the time. The police would often show up unannounced (we never answered the door, but we assume ex girls or salty clients reported. Anyway i hear that flat got raided by the police shortly after i left and blocked Sue on everything and changed my number.
The next and only agency was okay. It was run by a guy, let's call him Paul. Paul was actually a well alright guy, proper laugh, proper protective of us, had several apartments around kitted out with CCTV so always self safe working, would always surprise us with takeaways, More like a brother figure. Never pushed us to do anything; let us set our own rates and services, happy to talk about the ins and outs of his business and how he got there and what experiences he has, also about family life. Really nice guy. Really looks out for you and treated everyone with respect. Was never inappropriate with any girls He provided towels (which we had to wash a dry ourselves at the end of every day) Lube, condoms in every size, shower gels, toothpaste EVERYTHING. If we wanted anything which would benefit our service he would get it, such as costumes or toys. A girl i worked with asked for a massage table and diffusers and stuff because she studied massage therapy and wanted to include it as a service, and yep he got her one. He let me live at the flat for one month while i was in-between homes. However, he took 50% of my earnings and although i had a really good time working for him, always hanging around with a few girls so was never on my own. But yeah, would be gutted when i would be on a £1200 day and have too had over £600.
Overall i'd say my experiences with agencies haven't been too bad, the first one being worse and the second one i felt quite lucky, however i will never work for someone else again. Being independent means i can see half as many clients before and still make the same money; or even better see the same amount of clients for twice as much money. Being independent is much easier than is sounds and soooo worth it. I no longer feel pressured to take any client. If i even get a whif of bad vibes from a client i wont see them. Sometimes, i just want like an hour break so i wont see any clients. No pressure, all on my terms and no one taking 50% (apart from maybe boohoo.com and other clothing sites i am addicted too)
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I 'm appalled at what I read here. I first began escort work in London in 1990. That was long before the internet when all you had was newspapers or Independents in Central London advertising in phone boxes.
I worked safely for 3 different agencies in West London until I went independent with my own Newspaper advert in 1992. I only once had a guy who had an advert in the Ealing area newspapers promising £500 a client. You rang a number and got an answering machine and left your number.
2 weeks later he called and asked to come visit me and tell me all about it.
He came to my flat well dressed aged about 29, an Indian guy and told me that in order to join his agency I'd need to go to bed with him for 2 hours to show how good I was at sex!!!! I told him to get out and how dare he , some poor innocent girl would be taken in by him but not me. He knew I saw through him. I should have reported him to the police.
Then there was little abuse by agency owners but nowadays its all changed. Best advice is to work independent.
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I started out with agencies but my experience with them wasn't too bad. The owner of one of them even organised an STI test for any girls interested and used to arrange a Christmas party.
There was another that I didn't stay with for long and each week they would send a long winded message to all girls about procedures and giving good hours but also they seemed to feed off late night clients which of course were likely to be drunk/on drugs. The bookings were also further away and I couldn't be bothered with travel as well as doing late bookings.
With my regular agency, there was some favouritism amongst the agency's receptionists so certain girls would get more work and they would sometimes say a girl wasn't available even if they had been specifically requested by a client. Some of my clients have told me this now that they've seen me independently. A lot of the time you only get an hour's notice for bookings so are having to rush around to get there on time.
Although I have made some negative points, my experience was ok as far as agencies go but I much prefer independent and would prefer not to return to agency if I can help it.
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That's crazy, yeah majority of agencies are crap, they exploit you, they always sent me weird people, one agency I worked there for a day just like you I was invited for a duo with another girl and she screamed at me after the booking, because he liked me more than her I had just turned 18 and I was so close to tears keep in mind it was only 80 for the hr type of agency, the agency still had about 100 of my own money that they wouldn't let me collect until the end of the week and I told them I wanted to leave because the pay was bad, the girls were mean and the clientele was trash, the manager called me ugly and blocked me, I regret that whole experience.
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So I am new on SAAFE and have had Domme experience in the past, Ive been contacted by 3 agencies and unsure about them First one had no company name and wanted to pay me monthly... Second one wanted a registration fee. The 3rd one looks ok but is asking me for an ID. Can anyone advise? Im doing this part time and need help with bookings, screening etc hence considering them!
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So I am new on SAAFE and have had Domme experience in the past, Ive been contacted by 3 agencies and unsure about them First one had no company name and wanted to pay me monthly... Second one wanted a registration fee. The 3rd one looks ok but is asking me for an ID. Can anyone advise? Im doing this part time and need help with bookings, screening etc hence considering them!
1: No.
2: No.
3: No, but with the proviso that they may want to check your age, in which case ID with everything covered over bar your picture and DOB is plenty (electrical/masking tape is fine for this). Show them this in person and then put it away; don't let them take copies of it. They're breaking the law already, but they'll know if they're caught pimping out somebody underage then they'll really be up shit creek.
Bear in mind that agency pimps don't screen, because turning punters away means they make less money. They don't have to deal with the arseholes in person, so they have no reason to care.
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Thanks Amy... I've declined 1 and 2, not sure about 3rd but Im certainly not comfortable with the request. I appreciate your answer and any advice really! Obvs was told there's screening, blacklist etc...