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Jessica25

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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #60 on: 23 October 2018, 01:26:16 pm »
I just wouldn't work for an agency again. I also think agencies are a dying breed, because alot of people prefer going to independents now.

This was about to be my post made!
I worked for an agency, and with that i ended up homeless, cocaine addict and when my 'boss' told me he would take care of me, he took complete advantage of me in my hardest times! I was young and vulnerable, agencies are the worst place for women like that i do believe!

Independant is hard to get used to i thought, coming from an agency i still had a lot of bad habits but working for myself has completely changed my life, attitude and personality!
Independants know what THEY want to do, at an agency you loose the choice to choose your clientelle. your working hours, and how much you charge.

I personally would be more than happy to offer any advice to anyone having been in the industry 5years, and having hit rock bottom and worked my way back up, i would be happy to help anyone who needs advice on this! PM me if you need any advice etc.

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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #61 on: 07 June 2019, 12:26:14 pm »
Great post! Hopefully, others will take the time to read.

AG x
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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #62 on: 28 June 2019, 12:20:46 pm »
I can only talk about one agency that I know the ins and outs of, and it is in Edinburgh - the ones in London may be different.

At this agency, yes you really have to go to whoever they send you to.  You wouldn't be able to refuse because he's Asian.  When a guy books they take his name and address or name and hotel room number.  And a mobile number - they don't ask for landlines.  No, this agency doesn't vet clients....they say they do, but they don't and the amount of jobs that are wind ups or don't answer the door, or just want a look are massive.  They do have a driver, so you do have someone with you sometimes, but not always.  You are also (and I think this is the case with most agencies) 'on call', so if you say you're working Saturday, that means if she phones with a job for you on Sunday morning at 3am, you will be expected to be ready and with the guy within half an hour, so really you either have to sleep with your make up on and just doze in the chair, or stay up.  You can't really go to bed.  If you miss a job because you're sleeping, you won't get any more jobs for a while in retaliation, that usually lasts 7-10 days, but if someone specifically wants you she might lift the ban quicker.  This particular agency also checks viva st and adultwork looking for girls who work for her. 

Funny when you think that they agency actually works for you, isn't it?

This is just one agency though, but I can only speak about the one that I know.  I'm sure there are good ones out there.

I had a very similar experience with an agency. Obsessive controlling behaviour, paranoia, liked they owned you. It was like being stuck in a prison that you weren’t able to leave until you were “allowed” to go home.
When a couple of us finally got the courage to leave we experienced constant harassment for several months, unknown numbers blocking our phones, calls to the police, attempts to hack out AW accounts or get them pulled down and the final straw were text messages threatening to out us to friends and family on social media.  In the end I was so exhausted (and scared to be honest) that I responded by saying I was going to the police as it was now blackmail. It pretty much slowed down from that point.  It was a horrific experience and these were women who were running the agency. Women threatening other women no better than pimps.

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« Reply #63 on: 23 October 2019, 05:25:23 pm »
This was about to be my post made!
I worked for an agency, and with that i ended up homeless, cocaine addict and when my 'boss' told me he would take care of me, he took complete advantage of me in my hardest times! I was young and vulnerable, agencies are the worst place for women like that i do believe!

Independant is hard to get used to i thought, coming from an agency i still had a lot of bad habits but working for myself has completely changed my life, attitude and personality!
Independants know what THEY want to do, at an agency you loose the choice to choose your clientelle. your working hours, and how much you charge.

I personally would be more than happy to offer any advice to anyone having been in the industry 5years, and having hit rock bottom and worked my way back up, i would be happy to help anyone who needs advice on this! PM me if you need any advice etc.

x

I have not in over 20 years of escorting been with and nor would I ever go with a agency.

They control, manipulate and destroy  :'(

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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #64 on: 27 October 2019, 02:28:00 am »
Wouldn't you think that agencies run by ex working girls would understand everything there is to know, and offer help especially to a girl who has never done this before.

Look at the beauty industry and how salons treat their staff. It's the same.

Look after you staff and they will stay loyal and the trust is built up.  Treat your staff like shit and they will leave.

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« Reply #65 on: 10 January 2020, 01:50:00 am »
I had personal bad experiences with agencies because I don't have the qualities they wanted. That is, easily manipulated, able to tolerate smelly/rude/very demanding clients, and able to work at odd hours  ::)

The agenda of the agency is to make as much money as possible. When the push comes to shove, they would choose money above the girl's comfort/even safety. From my experience, it has been this way -I was sent to bad clients who paid well.
Anyone reading this must decide if the money is worth it.

It used to be that agencies had all the best clients and introduced girls to them. The little black book of Johns - glamorous ideas of what an agency should be. No doubt, there are still some rare agencies worth joining. Nowadays, anyone can have a website and set up an agency. They may be clueless, or bad people, it doesn't matter. Why would any girl want to work with them if they're that dumb and careless.

Much easier now to be independent with the social media and self advertising. And the money made through an agency is not even that good...compared to clever indie advertising.

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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #66 on: 10 January 2020, 02:17:48 am »
I had personal bad experiences with agencies because I don't have the qualities they wanted. That is, easily manipulated, able to tolerate smelly/rude/very demanding clients, and able to work at odd hours  ::)

The agenda of the agency is to make as much money as possible. When the push comes to shove, they would choose money above the girl's comfort/even safety. From my experience, it has been this way -I was sent to bad clients who paid well.
Anyone reading this must decide if the money is worth it.

It used to be that agencies had all the best clients and introduced girls to them. The little black book of Johns - glamorous ideas of what an agency should be. No doubt, there are still some rare agencies worth joining. Nowadays, anyone can have a website and set up an agency. They may be clueless, or bad people, it doesn't matter. Why would any girl want to work with them if they're that dumb and careless.

Much easier now to be independent with the social media and self advertising. And the money made through an agency is not even that good...compared to clever indie advertising.


 There’s not a lot of nice people that make money from us, they’re not nice at all and they treat you like shit.

I have worked in parlours and agencies and I have since found out that a parlour I worked in had trafficked girls back in the day (not anymore) there from all over Eastern Europe and Thailand, if I had known this I never would have worked for them.

I could never take money from a hooker knowing how she got that money, it’s wrong and thankfully illegal.

Greedy fuckers is what they are, the parlour I worked in used to charge you £50 for a missed shift and this is regardless of you being unwell, if you showed a doctors line then this would stop the fine, ffs your self employed and they’re calling the shots in more ways than one.

That parlour also hated the girls getting friendly with each other and infact she stipulated that the reception staff weren’t allowed to socialise with the girls outside of work!! Can you fucking believe the cheek of this?! Telling grown women who to be friends with, this is the power they tried to wield over us.

God that manager was a nasty bitch and was so fake with her concern over us, this was after they got raided right enough.

Agencies that look after their girls aren’t as busy as the ones that put the clients first, says a lot about the men that use them and none of them good.

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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #67 on: 11 January 2020, 12:03:47 am »

I have worked in parlours and agencies and I have since found out that a parlour I worked in had trafficked girls back in the day (not anymore) there from all over Eastern Europe and Thailand, if I had known this I never would have worked for them.


Very inhumane. Lots of shady things like this still going on at some parlours.
Yes, bad client behaviour is overlooked by agencies. I have the feeling some clients go to agencies when they fail the screening by indies

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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #68 on: 11 January 2020, 12:09:27 am »
I'd get random calls from Thai pimps offered girls as you would a puppy. Maybe this is how they're provided for agencies and parlours?
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Yeah like I'll let the human guineapigs have first dibbs at eating the food that's been sitting in those restaurant freezers for the past 4 months.

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« Reply #69 on: 11 January 2020, 12:39:15 am »
I'd get random calls from Thai pimps offered girls as you would a puppy. Maybe this is how they're provided for agencies and parlours?
Sad, and not surprising.
Why would any agency/parlour accept girls who are coerced to work/have a pimp to apply for work on their behalf. Unless they are complicit



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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #70 on: 12 November 2020, 10:16:51 pm »
I have only ever worked for two agencies before deciding to go completely independent and here was my experience with both:

First agency i worked for this really bizarre woman Let's call her Sue. She would always push the fact i was 'independent' despite her taking 40%. She was literally never ever around. My first day i arrived at the apartment and sat for 6 hours with this girl who was working there that day untill she showed up to help me set up a profile (as i had never done it before and didnt know what to do, she knew i was coming she told me to come at that time). She was always very unreliable, addicted to cocaine, irrational and a massive compulsive liar. The girls that worked there were mainly problematic. There was this one girl who was super problematic and i complained to Sue about her and obviously, because i was very busy she didnt want me to leave, so she gave me this massive speech about how we've become such good friends etc etc and obvsiouly she is going to get rid of her. Cut to two weeks, she didn't know i was coming and when i got to the flat there guess who was there working with Sue (who constantly said she was an ex escort and doesn't do it anymore but all the only girls said she still did it just from her home address)... She also told me she was studying a degree in psychology, however when i questioned her (i had studied psychology for 4 years) on things such as what she wanted to do with her degree or what her degree entails she was very vague and didnt seem to know alot (ANYTHING) about psychology. Whenever i needed her assistance she would always tell me she was 'at the library'....  She would have to meet me sometimes to let me in, and then other girls would arrive on a 'don't tell Sue im here so i don't have to leave any money'. I would leave money and the other girls would often tell me not to put my 40% in (probably so they could tell Sue on me, i was very busy i guess cause i was new and i would have 5 clients for every 1 they had). This was a well established 'whore house' in the sense that she had the apartment for a long time. I can remember one time i was staying overnight because there was a new girl who was just NINETEEN and had come to London from Northern England and i didn't want her to stay on her own (as i knew the area had some dodgy clients) and a client shows up coked up, drunk at 4am demanding to see 'the black girl" (there were only black girls working in this flat, i was the only white girl) and the 19 year old ended up seeing him and after his time he refused to leave for ages. Stuff like this happened all the time. The police would often show up unannounced (we never answered the door, but we assume ex girls or salty clients reported. Anyway i hear that flat got raided by the police shortly after i left and blocked Sue on everything and changed my number.

The next and only agency was okay. It was run by a guy, let's call him Paul. Paul was actually a well alright guy, proper laugh, proper protective of us, had several apartments around kitted out with CCTV so always self safe working, would always surprise us with takeaways, More like a brother figure. Never pushed us to do anything; let us set our own rates and services, happy to talk about the ins and outs of his business and how he got there and what experiences he has, also about family life. Really nice guy. Really looks out for you and treated everyone with respect.  Was never inappropriate with any girls He provided towels (which we had to wash a dry ourselves at the end of every day) Lube, condoms in every size, shower gels, toothpaste EVERYTHING. If we wanted anything which would benefit our service he would get it, such as costumes or toys. A girl i worked with asked for a massage table and diffusers and stuff because she studied massage therapy and wanted to include it as a service, and yep he got her one. He let me live at the flat for one month while i was in-between homes. However, he took 50% of my earnings and although i had a really good time working for him, always hanging around with a few girls so was never on my own. But yeah, would be gutted when i would be on a £1200 day and have too had over £600.

Overall i'd say my experiences with agencies haven't been too bad, the first one being worse and the second one i felt quite lucky, however i will never work for someone else again. Being independent means i can see half as many clients before and still make the same money; or even better see the same amount of clients for twice as much money. Being independent is much easier than is sounds and soooo worth it. I no longer feel pressured to take any client. If i even get a whif of bad vibes from a client i wont see them. Sometimes, i just want like an hour break so i wont see any clients. No pressure, all on my terms and no one taking 50% (apart from maybe boohoo.com and other clothing sites i am addicted too)

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Re: My personal bad experiences with agencies
« Reply #71 on: 02 May 2021, 08:31:53 pm »
I 'm appalled at what I read here. I first began escort work in London in 1990. That was long before the internet when all you had was newspapers or Independents in Central London advertising in phone boxes.
I worked safely for 3 different agencies in West London until I went independent with my own Newspaper advert in 1992. I only once had a guy who had an advert in the Ealing area newspapers promising £500 a client. You rang a number and got an answering machine and left your number.
2 weeks later he called and asked to come visit me and tell me all about it.
He came to my flat well dressed aged about 29, an  Indian guy and told me that in order to join his agency I'd need to go to bed with him for 2 hours to show how good I was at sex!!!! I told him to get out and how dare he , some poor innocent girl would be taken in by him but not me. He knew I saw through him. I should have reported him to the police.
Then there was little abuse by agency owners but nowadays its all changed. Best advice is to work independent.