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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: ParisB on 08 October 2011, 12:06:35 pm
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not that im a big mumsnet reader ( although i do like aibu) but i saw this on the relationships forums and found it quite interesting
you will need to put the http:// at the beginging of the link to get it to work as i didnt want mumsnet admin all of a sudden getting lots of hits from all of us
w ww.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1312232-How-many-of-the-men-in-your-life-have-used-prostitutes-compared-with-how-many-who-havent-Id-like-to-ask-for-help-or-perspectives-on-this
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im still reading this thread and its unreal that out of 630 posts i would say 98 percent of the women replying all are adament that there husbands, fathers, sons, brothers, would not use a escort, they all seem to think that the men that use escort treat them like a piece of meat ( is that why were all so quiet that men dont use us )
are the average women out there in society totally oblivious to the sex industry and all it is - i dont mean that in a patronising way either as i dont expect people who are not in this industry to really have any knowledge of it
but more so that how on earth can they be 100 percent certain that there husbands havnt slept with escort at any point in there life, its not as if they are going to admit it to them over a glass of wine one night
Reading it is rather sureal, i feel like i want to post bollocks to the lot of you, unless your doing this work how would you know, what guys visit us
i feel very sorry for the OP who seems very traumastised by working as a prostitute, she mentions that she watched bell de jour and thought that it would be like that ahhhhg i want to bloody scream i hated that bloody programe as it so sooooo glamourised this work never did it show the negatives all the clients were good payers lovely hotels and all good looking and even the ones that wernt were still ok guys and she always did loads of overnights in really swanky hotels and she managed to sleep as well
it seem that the OP had to deal with a lot of shitty clients, and that she had more bad clients than good whereas my experience of working has been the total opposite in that there are more good clients than bad
dont really know why im posting this just found the thread upsetting but strange at the same time
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im still reading this thread and its unreal that out of 630 posts i would say 98 percent of the women replying all are adament that there husbands, fathers, sons, brothers, would not use a escort, they all seem to think that the men that use escort treat them like a piece of meat ( is that why were all so quiet that men dont use us )
IMO a lot of women r in denial about their husbands etc using escorts; if this were true most of us would c no guys!
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i feel very sorry for the OP who seems very traumastised by working as a prostitute, she mentions that she watched bell de jour and thought that it would be like that ahhhhg i want to bloody scream i hated that bloody programe as it so sooooo glamourised this work never did it show the negatives all the clients were good payers lovely hotels and all good looking and even the ones that wernt were still ok guys and she always did loads of overnights in really swanky hotels and she managed to sleep as well
Are you able to somehow point her this way? I bet we'd be much more help than the internet equivalent of the Daily Mail....
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im still hooked on this - anyone know when bell de jour started as the OP mentions that she was working for 4 years and has been out for 18 months but that she was inspired by it - i didnt think bell de jour was around then
maybe she is a journo or am i just being sceptical ;D
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im still hooked on this - anyone know when bell de jour started as the OP mentions that she was working for 4 years and has been out for 18 months but that she was inspired by it - i didnt think bell de jour was around then
maybe she is a journo or am i just being sceptical ;D
Just checking on Google...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_de_Jour_(writer)
"The weblog Belle de Jour: Diary of a London call girl first appeared in October 2003 and won the Guardian newspaper's Best British Weblog 2003, in the second year of the award's existence."
and
"aired on ITV2 as Secret Diary of a Call Girl. The first series aired from 27 September 2007 to 15 November 2007"
You could be right about the OP being a journo though...
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Secret Diary started in 2007, so yes it would work, and the blog was already popular in 2004.
I haven't read the thread, but I'd assume that the vast majority of people in committed monogamous relationships assume their partner isn't shagging anyone else because if they couldn't believe that they wouldn't be getting into monogamous relationships. Even if you know that quite a lot of men do pay for sex on the side that's no reason to assume that your darling is breaking his vows, and if you're that suspicious all the time you're not likely to have any satisfying relationships.
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it seem that the OP had to deal with a lot of shitty clients, and that she had more bad clients than good whereas my experience of working has been the total opposite in that there are more good clients than bad
Yes, even allowing for the fact that she's had enough of the work, that's what struck me too.
I wonder if it's selective memory - there's a great chapter in one of the whore-lit books about how the average clients merge into one and what's left are the memorably good and bad ones - or Yet Another Reason Not To Trust An Agency With Looking After You.
Even if you know that quite a lot of men do pay for sex on the side that's no reason to assume that your darling is breaking his vows, and if you're that suspicious all the time you're not likely to have any satisfying relationships.
Throw in some 'what clients are doing is basically rape and my partner isn't like that' too, I suspect.
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I read the Belle du Jour books or blog in 2005 when they first came out. I remember that cause I was working in bookshop that year and it was getting mentioned a lot. So the dates would work I guess. Don't think it's a journo, but can't fathom how all those women are saying their husbands would NEVER do it :o
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I read the Belle du Jour books or blog in 2005 when they first came out. I remember that cause I was working in bookshop that year and it was getting mentioned a lot. So the dates would work I guess. Don't think it's a journo, but can't fathom how all those women are saying their husbands would NEVER do it :o
Yes they probably wouldn't entertain the idea of their hubbys having affairs, let alone, shock horror, seeing a WG!
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im still hooked on this - anyone know when bell de jour started as the OP mentions that she was working for 4 years and has been out for 18 months but that she was inspired by it - i didnt think bell de jour was around then
maybe she is a journo or am i just being sceptical ;D
Paris, I've been following that thread since it started :-[ ;D and I thought exactly the same thing re journo. There is also another thread re 'one night stands' .......... funny how there was a poll on tv of late asking for these figs. Really makes you suspicious. Time will tell if its journo.
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Maybe the more bad clients than good is an agency thing? I'd be scared if I got sent to guys homes without having first vetted them myself. A brothel set up with security is one thing but an outcall agency where only someone interested in a cut of my money is vetting / screening the clients would be my worst nightmare in this job .
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Yes, even allowing for the fact that she's had enough of the work, that's what struck me too.
I wonder if it's selective memory - there's a great chapter in one of the whore-lit books about how the average clients merge into one and what's left are the memorably good and bad ones - or Yet Another Reason Not To Trust An Agency With Looking After You.
that what i thought maybe selective memory in that she only remembers the bad ones now she is out of it, overall my experience hasnt been bad, i mean i can probably count those clients that i would NOT see again on both hands and still have one or two fingers left. i get where she is coming from about when your out and about you will look at guys and think potential client but i do the same with women if they are in a bar /nice car and dressed nicely ( very sad i know) and i sure as hell dont want to punch them
Of course there have had clients that will try to push boundaries weve all had them and we all have our own ways of dealing with them Because i have long hair its a bloody magnet for those guys that want to pull or hold on to when im giving them a bj
but i just move myself so that they cant do this or i remove there hand and if they try to do it again then i tell them that i dont like it and to stop but it dosnet traumastise me or make me hate me or myself, and yes there are those with bad hygiene and those that are just assholes but those guys are everywhere not just paying for sex and ive never been spat at or assulted ( not to say that it dosnt happen of course)
I think that maybe because she only ever worked for an agency and she was not able to vet her clients herself thats possibly one of the reasons she feel like she dose because she has had no or very little control over the clients that she met with which is why she feels the way she dose also feeling that bad but having to stick with it is even worse
i dont think that by asking on mumsnet she is going to get a very balancened view of it either, considering that virtually all of them are saying no their husbands have not slept with a escort and those that do are sick individuals or they have raped a girl by having sex with her because he is paying her
(fixed quote - a few months late :) )
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Paris, I've been following that thread since it started :-[ ;D and I thought exactly the same thing re journo. There is also another thread re 'one night stands' .......... funny how there was a poll on tv of late asking for these figs. Really makes you suspicious. Time will tell if its journo.
lol another secret mumsnetter - its so addictive i love aibu
(fixed quote)
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I could imagine maybe she feels so bad about herself for having done the work at all that yes the selective memory thing would make sense. I wish someone could point her in the direction of here but don't know if the mumnet people would allow that !
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That topic is strange... "No, my brother and father never used services of prostitute". Like this is something they are going to mention over the family dinner :D
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It's an interesting read, but wow it's 26 pages long. That'll take ages to even skim through. I still might do it as I have nothing better to do at the moment.
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Yes Jenny, its very good for a laugh if/when you are quiet and bored. :D
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It's an interesting read, but wow it's 26 pages long. That'll take ages to even skim through. I still might do it as I have nothing better to do at the moment.
Took me best part of an afternoon (and a fair bit of baccy), in between doing a few other things. I just want to know what the deleted posts said now! ;D
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It's an interesting read, but wow it's 26 pages long. That'll take ages to even skim through. I still might do it as I have nothing better to do at the moment.
Took me best part of an afternoon (and a fair bit of baccy), in between doing a few other things. I just want to know what the deleted posts said now! ;D
I'll carry on today, if I have time. Though many of the responses seemed similiar
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absolutely amazing! i defo think who started the thread is a journo, that or one of those sappy attention seekers, or maybe just downright unlucky and vulnerable!
the womens attitudes on there are crazily distorted, but i guess they wouldnt know.
my fave quote so far is
"Do you think that these men that pay for sex really and truly think that the women that they pay for sex really really enjoy it. I've read these laughable stories where the man talks about how many orgasms the girl has(oh really?)or the fantastic connection they have made"
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curvygrace
I was the mumsnetter whose quote you mentioned :)
I don't think I have a crazy, distorted attitude at all. I am not naive and I absolutely DO know how men work. Totally.
All i was trying to say is unless a prostitute really really loves sex with strange men of any age, shape, personality then I doubt she is loving every single meeting with a client. I am sure that women who enjoy sex with anyone at all are very few.
It was just a comment to highlight mens distorted views on having sex with prostitutes. It is clear that many completely forget that they are actually paying for it to believe that the woman is having a fantastic shag with lots of orgasms. While I am sure that this does in fact happen on occasion, I am sure it is not the norm.
Whilst, I am not trying to be rude to any escorts with my comments I am trying to say how thick some of these men are. Believing that they have made some fantastic connection. How fantastic a connection can you actually have if you have to pay a woman?!
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curvygrace
I was the mumsnetter whose quote you mentioned :)
I don't think I have a crazy, distorted attitude at all. I am not naive and I absolutely DO know how men work. Totally.
All i was trying to say is unless a prostitute really really loves sex with strange men of any age, shape, personality then I doubt she is loving every single meeting with a client. I am sure that women who enjoy sex with anyone at all are very few.
I'm not sure how valid your comments can be unless you have actually worked as a prostitute yourself I personally enjoy about 75% of my bookings very much, which I think is a great number. Its matters not a jot to me what shape or size they are.
It was just a comment to highlight mens distorted views on having sex with prostitutes. It is clear that many completely forget that they are actually paying for it to believe that the woman is having a fantastic shag with lots of orgasms. While I am sure that this does in fact happen on occasion, I am sure it is not the norm.
Of course some men have distorted views but again........if you havent been there you can't stereotype like that. For me it is most definately the norm and thats why guys love coming to see me. Its not about them forgetting they've paid for it, they want to have a good time, of course, and a little fantasy on their side does no harm at all, if thats what they want.
Whilst, I am not trying to be rude to any escorts with my comments I am trying to say how thick some of these men are. Believing that they have made some fantastic connection. How fantastic a connection can you actually have if you have to pay a woman?!
Just because a guy pays for it doesn't mean there can't be a connection. Also you make the classic error in thinking that the only guys who see prostitutes do it because they have no other option. Sometimes thats the case but often they want something different, an added extra, a fantasy, whatever, but many have no problems attracting women they just find it a thrill to pay for it, it adds to the excitement for them.
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No I hacven't worked as a prostitute, but I don't think I need to have experience of the work. I am a woman and I would most definitely NOT enjoy having sex with a man I did not not fancy physically, in the same way as a man I did fancy. I am not saying it could not be a pleasant enough encounter, but that's it. I do believe that it is a=only a small percentage of women(or men) or really do like having sex with anyone.
Unless working a a prostitute is you only sex life, and even then, I cannot believe that you can be that sexually attracted to these men.
And no, I don't believe that it is only men who have to pay for it that see escorts. What I meant was how ridiculous it sounds when a man states he has made a connection with a prostitute. Surely it can never be the same thrill as meeting a woman who actually wants to go out with you/have sex because she actually physically fancies you.
I am generalising and I know that some men like the thrill and are good looking and can pull, those who already have a good sex life at home. These will be in the minority though. I am guessing in the main, most clients are married men who are middle aged who could not pull a 20 yr old woman!
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Well it sounds like you don't want the opinions of those who have experienced working as a prostitute and that you just want some justification or validation of your own views.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but if I personally would not make blanket assumptions about a subject I know little about.
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Not at all. I am very interested in anyone's opinion on the subject :)
I just struggle to see how the majority(not all) of prostitutes really are having a fantastic time sexually with all of their clients. I may be wrong, but I imagine that this happens a fraction of the time.
Also, please correct me if I am wrong but again, surely the vast majority of men who see escorts are (probably) middle aged men. I would be very intrested to hear that in actual fact they are all fit, sexy 25 yr old men!!
My post is not a dig at prostitutes at all, more a bit of a dig at men, who are so blinkered that they totally buy into this fantasy that the girl that they have paid is having such a fantastic time that she would shag him for free. ;D
I know you girls have to be very careful what you say as I guess many clients read what you write!
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Well you have chosen to ignore the fact I have already answered your questions. As to shagging men for free - this is a job for us, we enjoy the time we have with them, then thats it. That is what a lot of guys love - excitement and no committment. I personally get a thrill out of being paid so why would I do it for free - I have a job on the whole that I love. Relationships outside of work are a whole another matter.
I really can't be any clearer than that.
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Sorry mellow, but I don't think you did answer my questions!
You make it sound like your clients are very varied, but are they not, usually middle aged men. Men, who might not necessarily HAVE to pay for sex in general, but pay to have sex with either much younger or more attractive women?
I am presuming by your posts that you are one of these escorts who does have orgasms very easily with clients? Again, I think you may be in the minority.
As for getting paid for it rather than for free, again, I am presuming that would normally want of variety and perhaps be one of the rarer women that would have sex with a whole host of men(i dont mean this in a bad way), in the way that a swinger might. In this instance, I can see why you may as well get paid.
I don't believe most escorts have this mindset though, although I would be interested to hear others responses.
As i said previously though, my post was more about some of the ludicrous comments from men that I have read regarding how the girls they have sex with are having a fantastic time, than why a prostitute does what does
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Carmey, I am a 59 year old prostitute and most of my clients aged 18 to 35, your idea of clients all being older is wrong. They range from 18 - 80.
I would like to go into this further but I dont have the time to waste on someone who is not willing to listen/doesnt want to hear, what we have to say. So ill wish you a good day and goodbye.
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Your presumumptions are breathtaking.
So a little straw poll, who thinks I answered carmey's questions?
Much as I'd love to stay and chat I have men to do and 'things to see' ;D
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Another busy day for you Mellow ? Don't take too much out of yourself. ::) 8)
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And it's goodbye 'carmey'. Can all members please look to the bottom rightish of this post, and note where the 'Report to Moderator' button is?
I've had a busy day so have only just seen it, but this should have not got anywhere near as far as it did. We don't know if somebody is breaking the rules unless we're alerted to it - please remember that SAAFE is for sex workers only, and if the ill-informed want to showcase their bigotry and ignorance regarding us and our work, there are plenty of other places online for them to do it. They are not wanted, needed or welcome here.
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Well said Amy I could not beleive what I was reading!!!!!!!!!
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I'm not the least bit surprised that heterosexual married women would have a very black and white view of prostitution, so I really don't see the value in arguing with them.
I guess their fear is that if the women genuinely do enjoy it occasionally, than the man (their boyfriend, son or husband) is genuinely cheating. Regardless of whether we enjoy it or not, I don't think any of us would do it for free.
Personally I always think it's hilarious when clients insinuate that we have a 'connection' and should go out on a 'date'. If I wanted to shag someone for free I'd much prefer a woman or my husband.
It is a shame that sex work is this big, black dirty secret between the sexes. I guess Mumsnet would be even more horrified if they knew the majority of gay, male porn stars are actually heterosexual men, some of them even have families!
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I got out on the wrong side of the bed and let her rile me. I get so mad sometimes when I've offered my opinion and it just goes into thin air, I did give up in the end when even my riled brain realised it was hopeless to try and reason with her :FF
I knew only SWs were allowed on here but for some reason brain didn't connect that with her.........doh and therefore didn't even think of the report to mod button.
I will remember that next time.
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I recently replied to that post on mumsnet and got totally slated like I was a criminal!.Sod you all judging narrow minded sly boring disrespectful ignorant wives/gfs.Its no wonder your partners look else where for some fun and loving!.I didn't respond to the slating I got as I am guessing thats what most of them on that website wanted ( infact one of the post was egging me on to respond,troll maybe,who knows,but am guessing more of a bored boring houswife secretly worrying their bored boring husband is seeing one of us ).Sorry for the rant but it put me in a bad mood for the whole day.I didn't realise they is still almost, a hatred towards us.GRRRRRRRR.Sod them x x x
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I recently replied to that post on mumsnet and got totally slated like I was a criminal!.Sod you all judging narrow minded sly boring disrespectful ignorant wives/gfs.Its no wonder your partners look else where for some fun and loving!.I didn't respond to the slating I got as I am guessing thats what most of them on that website wanted ( infact one of the post was egging me on to respond,troll maybe,who knows,but am guessing more of a bored boring houswife secretly worrying their bored boring husband is seeing one of us ).Sorry for the rant but it put me in a bad mood for the whole day.I didn't realise they is still almost, a hatred towards us.GRRRRRRRR.Sod them x x x
Yeh I know we can all get caught out sometimes, like me today, looking back at the posts it was almost like she was trying to wind me up but I didn't realise at the time.
If I'm in a bad mood anyway thats when I get mad and respond.
If she was for real then yeh its like they are looking for someone to blame, not themselves naturally!
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I got out on the wrong side of the bed and let her rile me. I get so mad sometimes when I've offered my opinion and it just goes into thin air, I did give up in the end when even my riled brain realised it was hopeless to try and reason with her :FF
I knew only SWs were allowed on here but for some reason brain didn't connect that with her.........doh and therefore didn't even think of the report to mod button.
I will remember that next time.
Don't worry - there's always the odd one will slip through the net and we can't be online twenty four hours a day.
That said, discussion is fine but slagging off or attempting to speak for/state the views of people who cannot join the board to participate in the discussion is not fair - we already know how irritating it is when it's done to us by those who claim they know what we think and feel better than we do. If anybody wants to get stuck into the Boden massive, I suggest they head over to their forum and do so there (those who aren't there already, anyway).
Do also bear in mind that it's precisely this sort of smug, bilious, rampant misanthropy that keeps most of us in chocolate biscuits :D.
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Do also bear in mind that it's precisely this sort of smug, bilious, rampant misanthropy that keeps most of us in chocolate biscuits :D.
I didn't mind the fact she was inaccurate, it was the smugness that I found hard to take. You are right though Amy, and the next time a Client brings me champagne, chocolates and a wedge of cash and tells me his wife doesn't understand him I shall drink a toast to Mumsnet as a 'thank you' - and then I'll shag him blind :)
R xx
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Do also bear in mind that it's precisely this sort of smug, bilious, rampant misanthropy that keeps most of us in chocolate biscuits :D.
I didn't mind the fact she was inaccurate, it was the smugness that I found hard to take. You are right though Amy, and the next time a Client brings me champagne, chocolates and a wedge of cash and tells me his wife doesn't understand him I shall drink a toast to Mumsnet as a 'thank you' - and then I'll shag him blind :)
R xx
Brilliant Amy and Roobyxx But I thought wanking made them blind!? lol! So the mumsnet crew should be gratefull :P
Axxx
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If anybody wants to get stuck into the Boden massive, I suggest they head over to their forum and do so there (those who aren't there already, anyway).
Did that.
No comments in the last 5 days so I guess they've been deleted.
Pity, I was gonna ask Carman to pass my number over to her hubby
as I suspect he could use my services. ;D
In truth, this is so dubious.
carmenelectra posts in the comments section of a thread on another site
on Wed 05-Oct-11
then it gets commented on here, 4+ months later
and Carman just happens to see it!
Yeah right.
Total fake.
Carman is a journo.
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the Boden massive
I'm sorry, but I have nearly wet myself laughing at that. It is the absolute definitive description of a typical mumsnet user....
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Isn't Boden some french, very plain clothing catalogue?
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Isn't Boden some french, very plain clothing catalogue?
You can Google Boden and view a range of tedious products for women with much time on their hands to dedicate to styling themselves, their home and their oh-so-darling offspring perfectly, yes.
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I guess their fear is that if the women genuinely do enjoy it occasionally, than the man (their boyfriend, son or husband) is genuinely cheating.
I think it's more that people who haven't had cough-hundred sexual partners don't realise that physical attraction often doesn't play much part in whether or not you can have a good time being sexual with someone.
You can Google Boden and view a range of tedious products for women with much time on their hands to dedicate to styling themselves, their home and their oh-so-darling offspring perfectly, yes.
Just wait :)
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I think it's more that people who haven't had cough-hundred sexual partners don't realise that physical attraction often doesn't play much part in whether or not you can have a good time being sexual with someone.
Particularly if they've bought into and heavily invested [their whole lives] in the idea that "all virtuous women need just one man to love and cherish forever and ever [cos otherwise you're a big slut who'll never get a husband or be invited to dinner parties!]".
There's nothing inherently wrong with following a traditional path, obviously - but it's probably not a good idea to assume that, as a person, you can necessarily just do one thing and then be done with it. Maybe if you're lucky to find the one thing that makes everything 100% perfect for you 100% of the time! But that's really, really unusual. I think most of us need a broad range of experiences in life to feel really satisfied and avoiding that because of the fear of being considered "bad/slutty" is a real shame.
Also, entertaining your bored self by coming along and poking at prossies like a scientist prodding rats in a lab is fairly absurd, too. We aren't indecipherable specimens; we're just people who feel a little more free to make our own choices in life than many others do. As indoor sex workers, we're very fortunate and privileged to be able to earn quite a lot of money [usually] safely in a relatively short amount of time. And I think being able to disengage from the "OMG women can't do teh sexx without being IN LUV" idea is just another huge advantage for us.
Just wait :)
Yeah, to be perfectly honest, I actually can't wait til I get myself a little housewife to dress herself and the children in matching Boden outfits - while doing all the cooking and cleaning for me, too, of course. ;D I expect she'll be deeply fulfilled from such an engaging life task!
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wow didnt think this thread was still going
unless you have walked a mile in my expensive jimmy choos, or stamped on a guys dick with them or made a guy lick them clean and get paid for it ;D, please dont state what we do and dont like as prostitutes, You might not enjoy sex with a guy you dont fancy, but thank fuck for us that do ie us prostitutes, if you did enjoy sex with guys you didnt fancy then we whores would be out of business pretty quick so thanks for keeping me in my jimmy choos and not boden
as i prostitute i can assure you ,were not all hard done by skanky crack head whores who are being exploited by men and need to be rescued and saved that have been abused by men or people in our lives
thats the ones that are shown on tv, or portrayed in the media, prositutes that have made a good living educated themselves, bought property privatly educated there children are more common than most fail to realise, i count myself in this category this sort of prostitute dosnt really sell newspapers as its pretty boring in fact its probably what i would call a boden sort of prostitute ::)
and ive met plenty of women that are like the op of the mumsnet thread , emotionally fucked up cant function in relationships ect need counsling beacause of men or people in there lives and they arent prostitutes often they are professional women with well paid jobs and careers you dont need to be a hooker to be fucked by men or fucked by anyone its just that we get paid for it
personally i would rather be fucked by a man physically with or without the cash than fucked by a man emotionally and mentally
No I hacven't worked as a prostitute, but I don't think I need to have experience of the work. I am a woman and I would most definitely NOT enjoy having sex with a man I did not not fancy physically, in the same way as a man I did fancy. I am not saying it could not be a pleasant enough encounter, but that's it. I do believe that it is a=only a small percentage of women(or men) or really do like having sex with anyone.
Unless working a a prostitute is you only sex life, and even then, I cannot believe that you can be that sexually attracted to these men.
And no, I don't believe that it is only men who have to pay for it that see escorts. What I meant was how ridiculous it sounds when a man states he has made a connection with a prostitute. Surely it can never be the same thrill as meeting a woman who actually wants to go out with you/have sex because she actually physically fancies you.
I am generalising and I know that some men like the thrill and are good looking and can pull, those who already have a good sex life at home. These will be in the minority though. I am guessing in the main, most clients are married men who are middle aged who could not pull a 20 yr old woman!
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wow didnt think this thread was still going
unless you have walked a mile in my expensive jimmy choos, or stamped on a guys dick with them or made a guy lick them clean and get paid for it ;D, please dont state what we do and dont like as prostitutes, You might not enjoy sex with a guy you dont fancy, but thank fuck for us that do ie us prostitutes, if you did enjoy sex with guys you didnt fancy then we whores would be out of business pretty quick so thanks for keeping me in my jimmy choos and not boden
as i prostitute i can assure you ,were not all hard done by skanky crack head whores who are being exploited by men and need to be rescued and saved that have been abused by men or people in our lives
thats the ones that are shown on tv, or portrayed in the media, prositutes that have made a good living educated themselves, bought property privatly educated there children are more common than most fail to realise, i count myself in this category this sort of prostitute dosnt really sell newspapers as its pretty boring in fact its probably what i would call a boden sort of prostitute ::)
and ive met plenty of women that are like the op of the mumsnet thread , emotionally fucked up cant function in relationships ect need counsling beacause of men or people in there lives and they arent prostitutes often they are professional women with well paid jobs and careers you dont need to be a hooker to be fucked by men or fucked by anyone its just that we get paid for it
personally i would rather be fucked by a man physically with or without the cash than fucked by a man emotionally and mentally
Well said Paris particularly like your last sentence ;D
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Fab post Paris,I could not agree with you more :D