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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: CurlsnCurves on 19 April 2017, 10:01:19 am
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I feel like lately I am getting one punter after another who either cannot come in the booking or takes so long that I get lockjaw, very tired wrists, and lose the will to live! They always seem to want oral too, I could handle it better if it was actual sex but endless oral is something I do state I do not offer in long bookings as I really can't abide bookings concentrating just on me giving a blowjob. I think this is what makes things worse, the fact that even though I make it clear that I don't offer it I get climax challenged men who once they have finished playing with my holes with their hands only want oral from me and know full well they will take over half the booking with me sucking and may or may not get close to coming. Is it just me or is this not fair? I feel it's not playing by my rules and sneaking in. Just be lovely to have a few clients who aren't challenged climax wise. How do you deal with these types? They are the ones who book for a long time so as much as I really don't look forward to the bookings I am loathe to turn the money away. I've been told my oral skills are fantastic by a lot of punters over the years and have had my fair share of men who come straight away or really struggle to not come within the first 5-10mins, it's just the last few months I am struggling with these guys who are so difficult that no matter what I try nothing works or it's taking an extremely long time to get them there. It's my number one dislike at the moment along with them putting the pressure on me to come. Sometimes I do but mostly I don't and I'd much prefer it if they came and stopped hassling me to. Any tips to get a guy who is extremely hard to climax, come? I'm starting to get a complex over it all. I think a lot of these guys expect us to be miracle workers at times!
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I feel like lately I am getting one punter after another who either cannot come in the booking or takes so long that I get lockjaw, very tired wrists, and lose the will to live! They always seem to want oral too, I could handle it better if it was actual sex but endless oral is something I do state I do not offer in long bookings as I really can't abide bookings concentrating just on me giving a blowjob. I think this is what makes things worse, the fact that even though I make it clear that I don't offer it I get climax challenged men who once they have finished playing with my holes with their hands only want oral from me and know full well they will take over half the booking with me sucking and may or may not get close to coming. Is it just me or is this not fair? I feel it's not playing by my rules and sneaking in. Just be lovely to have a few clients who aren't challenged climax wise. How do you deal with these types? They are the ones who book for a long time so as much as I really don't look forward to the bookings I am loathe to turn the money away. I've been told my oral skills are fantastic by a lot of punters over the years and have had my fair share of men who come straight away or really struggle to not come within the first 5-10mins, it's just the last few months I am struggling with these guys who are so difficult that no matter what I try nothing works or it's taking an extremely long time to get them there. It's my number one dislike at the moment along with them putting the pressure on me to come. Sometimes I do but mostly I don't and I'd much prefer it if they came and stopped hassling me to. Any tips to get a guy who is extremely hard to climax, come? I'm starting to get a complex over it all. I think a lot of these guys expect us to be miracle workers at times!
I make my advertising clear that I'm not interested in constant-going-at-it-shagging/sexual activity, and will make this clear on the phone to new clients. Result has been a mix wider mix, and fewer who want to focus on rubbing away like mad. Don't get me wrong I'll provide oral for a good length of time, and have some very passionate meets. I have found that being upfront, and not being afraid to say "I don't think we are suited/if you are looking for a porn star style performance please do not book me" means I get more of the type I prefer.
That's not to say the non-PSErs don't have issues climaxing, they simply aren't as focused on it and don't push it to the very end. They tend to sort of accept it, and opt for kissing and cuddling instead.
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If you think it's due to death grip wanking, I'd get the lube out and suggest they finish themselves off, while you play with their balls/perineum or kiss them etc.
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I used to get frustrated with this, had years of going OTT and getting neck strain, aching arms etc. I'm confident enough now not to let the punters take the mickey. Have you considered that some inconsiderates may have wanked before getting to you?
Don't give yourself repetitive strain injury, just be firm- I say things like, show me how its done, or help me, I need you to come on my face ::)
usually works lol. They may not come, but you've tried enough
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Id stop the long bookings with new punters.
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The odd time I get this I'll stop and ask them what exactly would do it for them and if needs be and they are the type who always struggles to come I'll explain that my mouth/hand is starting to hurt and we need to try something else or they could take over for abit and watch me play with myself while they wank.If none of that works or they just don't want to and just want me to continue sucking/wabking despite it starting to hurt me then I have cut the booking short and given some money back.
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I do wonder how they get themselves off when alone. I think for some it's porn with all the typical over the top rubbish made for men and they come to me thinking I'll talk the filth the actresses do and all that stuff but again it's clear on my profile I prefer to be the one being talked dirty too. I don't offer pse. Some will want themselves off for ages to no avail even with me sucking n licking their balls, tweaking their nipples, licking the head of their dick, on my knees mouth open telling them I want their cum in my mouth/ face, etc. Still they can't cum. And that's not even including my oral on them! Usually I would make a note to myself not to book again but the trouble is I've a few very reliable and very good payers who will even pay well in advance which is fantastic so I don't want to turn them away. I just wish I knew how the hell to make them climax without it taking a decade n wearing me right out. Needless to say I don't book anyone else on the days I see them. It's too exhausting!
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Oh yes n I do usually get the lube out to walk them. Sometimes I'll even do the death grip you mentioned. I know one guy said he'd not wanked for a couple of days. I think the issue with that one was being overly fanatical about girls and bukake and wanting what was on the porn he bought over. Well I'm not a pornstar, I don't act like one n I don't do bukake but he knew what I was like as it was a second booking. I've never thought to cut short a booking n refund some money. If I feel I've worked away hard in the booking and catered to all their needs and they haven't come then TBH I just think, well I did my bit as good as I usually do so why should I refund?Although I don't really want any punter to leave without blowing as then I don't feel I've done my job. Maybe if I feel halfway through its never going to happen I might really consider the part refund idea though. As if I keep getting these difficult punters I'd rather send them on their way than have all my time suffering with dealing with them. It sucks the fun right out of this work. It's like doing homework!
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I've never offered a refund because they haven't come.I've occiasionally offered to cut the booking short at minute 50 and given them 20 back because I have had enough,nothing to do with feeling guilty or whatever.I would rather give 20 back and not have an aching gob/hand/fanny and get another more fun client in.Each to their own and was only a suggestion.
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Another trick to try is to use your vibrator on their bell end.Use it gently around the balls and anus first to tease and then hold their knob against the vibrator end and sometimes it will be goodnight vienna in seconds with some of them.Works the best on guys who may be delibetately holding out to the very bitter end.
Or a gentle finger up their jacksie and massage their prostrate if you offer anal play while wanking/blowing and they are up for trying it can work.
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Luckily i don't get too many guys like this. I always do my best to give an excellent service and put a lot in and do my best to make them cum. So I would never refund them if they are unable to.
One of my regulars sometimes takes ages. For me that is anything over half an hour. One time he took longer than normal and I had tried everything. He was good about it and told me to take a breather.
We started kissing whilst I played with his cock slowly which he seemed to enjoy.
After about five minutes of this he came.
This is something we never did before so could be because it was something new. Also he said after a while his cock gets sensitive so he doesn't feel the sensation as much so it's best to go slower sometimes to feel the sensation otherwise difficult to cum.
I don't like anyone putting pressure on me to cum. I have to be fully relaxed and at ease with someone to climax. Pile on the pressure at it won't happen.
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I could handle it better if it was actual sex but endless oral is something I do state I do not offer in long bookings
Men don't read profiles.
Maybe, write a warning in a brief sentence in Bold letters:
NO PROLONGED ORAL GIVEN IN LONGER BOOKINGS.
No continuous oral longer than 10 minutes at a time. etc.
Or, charge extra. At least, you're getting more money.
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Another trick to try is to use your vibrator on their bell end.Use it gently around the balls and anus first to tease and then hold their knob against the vibrator end and sometimes it will be goodnight vienna in seconds with some of them.Works the best on guys who may be delibetately holding out to the very bitter end.
Or a gentle finger up their jacksie and massage their prostrate if you offer anal play while wanking/blowing and they are up for trying it can work.
Vibrator on gooch works too!
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Finger up the arse!
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Yes I know about the finger up the arse but it's not for everyone. I think they lose sensitivity after a while too, I'm glad someone pointed that out.
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Baby oil and the two handed twist motion. That or a knock to the head. Either does the trick ;D
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I have a 20 year old client (he sounded 28 on the phone) and he's very polite, respectful etc, etc & he has been to see me 3 times, twice for 2 hours with me & he never came and then I brought my friend in for a duo and he just took 1 hour and we tried everything; the death grip wank, finger up the bum, girl on girl whilst he wanked, sex, oral & yet still nothing but he is 20 so definitely wanks before he comes over and he's a pain of a customer and I'm only going to see him when I'm skint otherwise he just annoys me!!
I never give a discount if they don't come because its not my issue if he wanks first and with him only being 20 then I believe he does!!
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if I had a guy who had problems cumming then I would get a well charged vibrator out and put it at the tip of the cock and they were usually shooting within a minute or so.
My vibrator was a way of testing if I was going to have a bother in this department 🙄😀
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I might have to try Lady Lusts vibrator tip.
Had a new customer who has been twice and not able to cum both times. Seeing him tomorrow so might give it a go.
First time was a three some and he did cum with my partner so quite normal I suppose to not cum twice in an hour.
Second time I think he ran out of gas after shagging me for 25 mins then lost his erection. Was only 30 min booking.
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I gently hold the base of the penis if thing are delayed this usually does the trick think it acts like a cock ring lol.
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if I had a guy who had problems cumming then I would get a well charged vibrator out and put it at the tip of the cock and they were usually shooting within a minute or so.
My vibrator was a way of testing if I was going to have a bother in this department 🙄😀
I'm so going to try this!!
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Finger up the arse!
The only thing is not all men want a finger up thier bum. Especially the gayophobics.
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The only thing is not all men want a finger up thier bum. Especially the gayophobics.
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Exactly 😀
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Finger up the arse!
I'd be scared they'd shit all over my hand and just the idea of that would freak me out.
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I'd be scared they'd shit all over my hand and just the idea of that would freak me out.
This is why you wear gloves, put a towel under their bum with couch roll over the top ;D
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Call them by their name in a sexy voice & tell them you want them to cum for you, usually works for me, repeat it a few times if necessary. Get them to wank over the boobs helps too. Those guys who hold off until the last minute annoy me, I just tell them they only have a few minutes left so now is a good time to climax otherwise they'll leave without.
I have a 20 year old client (he sounded 28 on the phone) and he's very polite, respectful etc, etc & he has been to see me 3 times, twice for 2 hours with me & he never came and then I brought my friend in for a duo and he just took 1 hour and we tried everything; the death grip wank, finger up the bum, girl on girl whilst he wanked, sex, oral & yet still nothing but he is 20 so definitely wanks before he comes over and he's a pain of a customer and I'm only going to see him when I'm skint otherwise he just annoys me!!
I never give a discount if they don't come because its not my issue if he wanks first and with him only being 20 then I believe he does!!
This reminds me of a BF I had at age 20 who took forever to climax, that relationship didn't last long.
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I offer a 15minute oral only service and every now and then I get a client calling to ask if I can just do Oral in a 30minute service. I simply say NOOOO WAY! 15minute is the maximum time I will strain my neck on a Cock.
Also when they ask this, I actually prefer not to see them as its a major Flag that a client finds it difficult to cum.
Another observation I have had in my working history is that you will get the same type of client/energy between 2-5 days and then there is a merge change on the last day or so which leads to another pattern. ie, if I get the first 2 clients of the day climaxing easily, I know I will have an easy day as the rest of the clients will more than likely follow that pattern. Same for slow cummers or floppy cocks (Then I know I am in for a Fucked up day) Another example - Some weeks I have no calls requesting anal and or water sports, then all of a sudden the majority of clients ask for the same thing for the next day or so ... Same if its quiet etc
I'm sure if you ladies think about it, you can see it happens to all of us. Its simply the energy/vibe flowing around during those few days. Just as the Full moon effects behaviour, so do other planets that are emitting certain vibes at that time.
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Call them by their name in a sexy voice & tell them you want them to cum for you, usually works for me, repeat it a few times if necessary. Get them to wank over the boobs helps too. Those guys who hold off until the last minute annoy me, I just tell them they only have a few minutes left so now is a good time to climax otherwise they'll leave without.
This reminds me of a BF I had at age 20 who took forever to climax, that relationship didn't last long.
Well no wonder!! I actually thought he was 28 on the phone as I don't see guys under 25 & I didn't realise he was 20 until he came to the door but he's quite mature for his age, he actually told me that he likes a girl at his work and she won't be 18 until later in the year and so he'z going to ask her out then and I immediately thought 'well that relationship won't last long', I'd finish with a guy that never came tbh.
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Yes I agree n have been with guys who have never cum. Those relationships are just awful. Needless to say they have been few n far between. I will try the vibrator trick with my Hitachi wand if they can bare it!!! Haha....might be too much. I've never tried the two hand twist. Some of them aren't big enough for two hands! Had a nice easy booking earlier with no issues coming thank the lord.
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Is it a normal vibrator u put on the tip of the cock or a bullet?? Do u keep wanking them as you do this?? Some do put off cuming and the quicker they cum tbe quicker they are gone x
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With some clients when I tell them I'm about to cum they soon cum too. Must be a psychological thing
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Yes I agree n have been with guys who have never cum. Those relationships are just awful. Needless to say they have been few n far between. I will try the vibrator trick with my Hitachi wand if they can bare it!!! Haha....might be too much. I've never tried the two hand twist. Some of them aren't big enough for two hands! Had a nice easy booking earlier with no issues coming thank the lord.
That's making my eyes water lol I've only used mine on my neck ;) I like the idea of seeing a guys face with this, priceless. I like the 2 hand twist, got the idea from a Jenna Jameson porno. Not made my clients cum quicker though :-\
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I talk dirty to them and make them watch while I use the vibrator on myself. After a couple of mins I practically beg him to put his dick in my mouth as if I'd definitely die without it and that usually does the trick, they don't last long after that.
Some are very awkward and don't have any sensitivity coz they wank too much. They should leave themselves alone and they'd enjoy sex more :FF
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I get these guys are so after time up I tell them were done now and either you Cum or quit they stop apologise or finish as I stop my poor cramped hand by this point. :FF