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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: ladyofthemansion on 17 October 2012, 02:08:23 pm
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Grr. Just had one asshole use my loo then come out with the pathetic cash machine excuse and of course he didn't return.
Have let loads guys use my loo in the past before before handing me the money.
Now wondering if I have to change that and am I going to sound really petty for saying you can't have a wee till you've paid!
So annoyed! :-(
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If they say - could i nip to the loo first? just say - lets sort out the money first then you can nip anywhere you like.
As soon as they walk through the door ask for payment, dont feel cheeky about doing this.
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I have only had one of these and he had left the door open slightly and I could see him wanking in the toilet so when he came out and said he was leaving I told him straight as he had obviously had a service of sorts he could either pay me or I would call the police (I was bluffing as nothing they could have done about it) and he suddenly found my fee. I just wonder how many other ladies he had gone to see and wanked in the loo for his thrill of wanking in an escorts toilet and walked away without paying
What type of man gets his thril from wanking in a womans loo then walking away?? :FF :FF
Now I always take the money from them and then show them the bathroom to stop this type of thing. I also no longer get amazed or stunned/shocked by the actions of some
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Grr. Just had one asshole use my loo then come out with the pathetic cash machine excuse and of course he didn't return.
Have let loads guys use my loo in the past before before handing me the money.
Now wondering if I have to change that and am I going to sound really petty for saying you can't have a wee till you've paid!
So annoyed! :-(
Maybe that guy was looking an excuse to see you first...
to check whether it was convenient or not to be with you.
??? ??? ??? ???
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This is an odd one. If a new client asks to use the toilet as soon as he is in the front door I never refuse him. None
have decided not to stay though and I have just assumed they have a genuine need to pee or wash their hands.
Not getting into the subject of guys using the loo but not washing hands, that is for another thread ::)
I suppose some men will ask to go to the bathroom to make a quick decision whether they like you or not, to be honest
I have never really thought about it.
If a new man comes in and asks to use the bathroom as soon as I have closed the door then I would not feel right asking
him to pay me first, I always have a couple of minutes chat with a new one before asking for my fee. He has the right to look me
over in a discreet way and it is his decision to stay or leave. None have ever left but my opinion is they have the right to, the fee
is a lot of money to spend and men are entitled to be happy with what they see. Others may disagree with me.
I was shocked reading that you caught him wanking though!! I must be naive. Never imagined they might do this!
You learn something every day in this job ::)
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I have on odd occasion had walk outs and agree that is their right but I don't use a bog in a restaurant If I'm not spending money.
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I shall charge them ?1.00 to use the loo like they used to do in Harrods!!! ;)
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Happened to me once, work called him in. If it wasn't for the fact he had seen me several times previously, and had written some very good things about me online I'd have taken it personally. Never seen him again but suspect it's more to do with personal situation than anything else.
Did use the loo in a coffee shop yesterday without buying anything, result of local council closing all public conveniences and I wasn't going to go into McDonalds after the last time.
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I shall charge them ?1.00 to use the loo like they used to do in Harrods!!! ;)
;D ;D ;D
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Don't take it personally.
Not everybody is everyone's cup of tea and I'm sure at some point we will all get a client who doesn't find what they had envisaged. It is a lot of money that they are paying and I feel that if I wasn't what they expected then of course they have the right to leave in a courteous manner.
I do think some of them do it just so that they can see you in the flesh and had never had any intention of paying in the first place. Some do it because they genuinely get cold feet. Some do it 'for a laugh' and some do it because they have nothing better to do and are a bit pathetic. No point in letting it bother you, just another reason to pity some of these guys.
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Grr. Just had one asshole use my loo then come out with the pathetic cash machine excuse and of course he didn't return.
Have let loads guys use my loo in the past before before handing me the money.
Now wondering if I have to change that and am I going to sound really petty for saying you can't have a wee till you've paid!
So annoyed! :-(
what a cheeky cu......
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I would prefer them to say that I am not what they are looking for than the stupid excuses. Wish I had tried to get some money out of him for wasting my time. My toilet feels soiled now!
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I'm the same re guys not having the balls to say we are not what does it for them.
What you got to remember is that guys who are not 'allowed' to use your loo might simply go outside your main door wherever it is and pee there.
There have been guys known to wank and spunk all over a femmes door when something didnt go right, so if you refuse them your loo be prepared for a mess outside our door, it may not happen but then again it might. ::)
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If some guy spiked on my door I'd cause him untold shit with his DNA!
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I have only had one of these and he had left the door open slightly and I could see him wanking in the toilet so when he came out and said he was leaving I told him straight as he had obviously had a service of sorts he could either pay me or I would call the police (I was bluffing as nothing they could have done about it) and he suddenly found my fee. I just wonder how many other ladies he had gone to see and wanked in the loo for his thrill of wanking in an escorts toilet and walked away without paying
What type of man gets his thril from wanking in a womans loo then walking away?? :FF :FF
Now I always take the money from them and then show them the bathroom to stop this type of thing. I also no longer get amazed or stunned/shocked by the actions of some
I've had this happen to me. I couldn't see him but I could hear *icky*. I wish I'd walked in on him and frog marched him out sans pants, but I was to stunned at the sheer cheek.
But generally I find a lot of the guys ask to pee, even before we manage pleasantries, are really nervous. They get exam stress symptoms. I - like most people - have had walkers and usually they just walk asap. I've stopped conjecturing on the reasons why because it offers the potential of giving a subjective opinion, a particularly dubious form of subjective opinion (person looking for sex) too much validity. I just make sure I never wear anything too revealing when they book, if they've never met me before, so they don't get a free eye-full.
Of on a small tangent... I had one client once admit to me that he booked a couple of escorts sometimes whenever he wanted a service, and if he 'wasn't sure' about the first he'd go on to the second. If the first was 'adequate' he'd leave the other one tapping her fingers. I had to smile through bleeding gums when he told me that one... >:(
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I had a client the other week who spent *ages* in the toilet before coming out, and I remember thinking I wonder if hes getting himself off. Turns out he was- he couldn't come and he was a relatively young guy. It really annoyed me because he ended up going over time. Gah. Men.
xx
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I'm sure if you just politely ask for payment before they do so then that would be fine. As for making it a new 'rule' I'm sure that such a thing would be unlikely to happen again - you've just had a bit of bad luck :-\
Yes money first before using the loo that's my policy, happened to me once and now wiser lol.
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I used to allow them to use the loo first never again after tonight's incident. He pretended going toilet, I could here him wanking. The idiot then came up with the left credit card in car story.
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I used to allow them to use the loo first never again after tonight's incident. He pretended going toilet, I could here him wanking. The idiot then came up with the left credit card in car story.
What an idiot!
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Betty i want you to put a sign up on youre bathroom door, *a wank and a wee is not for free* !!! ;D
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After having this new system in place is working wonders. As thought that it would be awkward saying lets sort the money out first polity. To be honest if that is how they spend their time wanking in the toilet after so be it. I wouldn't mind at all.
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Betty i want you to put a sign up on youre bathroom door, *a wank and a wee is not for free* !!! ;D
Will do Orchid hahaha. ;D
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I've luckily never had this problem, I can't believe it! lol though the cheek some of them have never suprises me, anything for a freebie..
Did you leave feedback on his profile?
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I've luckily never had this problem, I can't believe it! lol though the cheek some of them have never suprises me, anything for a freebie..
Did you leave feedback on his profile?
Not sure who that was aimed at but....
As a rule no mater how bad the guy is never to leave them bad feedback. If the case I just ignore it. I have more to lose than a punter. I read on here once that the guy left negative after it was done to him. Any negatives may affect business, it's to bigger risk to take.
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REALLY? If that is the majority decision of my fellow working girls then it makes me despair a little. :(
I very rarely use AW, but if I do get a booking request I ALWAYS look for any negative feedback before I consider accepting. Even something as little as 'cancelled with notice' will help me prepare for the instance of him letting me down at least.
I have very little feedback on there and all of it is positive BUT.. if I was ever given a rough ride by anyone I would have no hesitation in warning other ladies about him.
I wouldn't give a fig if it was twisted by him in return as I think any decent bloke would see through it.
In my experience they all assume that all our other clients are smelly bug-eyed monsters who treat us badly anyway and will just pity even more perhaps? ;D
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REALLY? If that is the majority decision of my fellow working girls then it makes me despair a little. :(
I very rarely use AW, but if I do get a booking request I ALWAYS look for any negative feedback before I consider accepting. Even something as little as 'cancelled with notice' will help me prepare for the instance of him letting me down at least.
I have very little feedback on there and all of it is positive BUT.. if I was ever given a rough ride by anyone I would have no hesitation in warning other ladies about him.
I wouldn't give a fig if it was twisted by him in return as I think any decent bloke would see through it.
I know this is all going off topic but I completely agree. I think its really important if someone treats you badly/messes you around a lot its important to note this and also that its my duty to warn other girls. I couldn't give a toss if the guy tries to retaliate.
Actually one guy retaliated horribly (not with feedback) when I left neutral feedback but would I do it again, yes I would. I've only ever had to leave negative feedback once and it was well deserved. Obviously I would never leave bad or even neutral feedback for silly or petty reasons.
Going back to the bathroom issue, funnily enough the other week I allowed 2 guys to use the loo before their booking, and I had this thread in my head. However all was good - usually its not something I allow however.
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It's just how I operate.
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However all was good - usually its not something I allow however.
Forgive me if I am reading this wrong but Ive had a not so good day .... but it shall pass.
Are you saying if a guy asked to use your toilet/bathroom you would not allow it? Thats how I've read it. Am I wrong?
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I think you've misunderstood, I was just responding there to the thread title there which was money first, bathroom after.
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Thank goodness for that, I thought it was rather harsh.
I got to be honest sometimes I find it difficult to read posts if there is no punctuation (not in your case) as it all runs into one sentence and most of the time doesnt make sense.
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Thank goodness for that, I thought it was rather harsh.
Actually to be fair reading it back that last paragraph in my previous post does read slightly oddly, I blame brain and body fatigue from touring and travelling ;D
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If some guy spiked on my door I'd cause him untold shit with his DNA!
I would too!! People only do what you let them.
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Wow, that one's never happened to me (yet ;)), a guy using my toilet and THEN bolting with the "cashmachine" or any excuse..
That really is the height of cheek in my books!!
Mmm, I think I would feel rather awkward asking for the money first if the want to use the toilet, but then again you don't
expect that!!
I doubt it would happen a lot, and I don't eally hav a solution, but I'm still rather flabbergasted by the cheek of it..!!
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Grr. Just had one asshole use my loo then come out with the pathetic cash machine excuse and of course he didn't return.
Have let loads guys use my loo in the past before before handing me the money.
Now wondering if I have to change that and am I going to sound really petty for saying you can't have a wee till you've paid!
So annoyed! :-(
I don't rush for payment belongs it is before we start but if they rush asking for the toilet then quickly say my rates. It happened to me a few years back but ever since hasn't. If it did would say sorry no money back as used my toilet. They probably have a sneaky wank. Another freelancer strikes again.
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I offer them a towel and tell them that I'll go get them a drink while they're in there, then say "Could we get the paperwork out of the way, please?" If they have bad intentions regarding paying/timewasting, this should sort them out.
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I tell them it isn't working but once we've got the messy paperwork part sorted out they can use my main bathroom. Wanking in the toilet! Never had that and known about it but have had some pretty nasty smelly ones stink the place out >:( Always check after they've used it now so I can open a window or leave the fan on if needed.
In the case of real client not serial toilet wankers I wonder why they don't go elsewhere to do their business before getting to our place? Shit isn't sexy :-X
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I absolutely hate having to ask for the money, feels so awkward but it doesn't stop me doing it though.
If a client comes in and asks for the toilet straight away, I sometimes forget then suddenly it pops into my head mid whatever, I will stop and ask them as I don't know how many times clients have went to walk out without paying whether they have forgotten genuinely or not.
And the 2 times I have completely forgotten was once with a guy I had never met before who was young and had such a vile attitude, he turned up expecting a shit load of things I didn't do from lap dances to oral without so was pissed off at me because it's not the sort of service I offer when it was completely his fault (now I always, always ask on the phone if a new client has read my profile and is happy with what I offer) so when I asked for the money at the end when it popped into my head, he threw me ?50 which was ?80 less than my rates at the time and said that's all I was worth. If a man reads and accepts my profile then I'm worth every penny but to this ignorant arsehole thinking he could turn up and do whatever he wants and get tonnes of stuff I didn't do then obviously he was in for a disappointment through no fault of mine. The other was a client that I had seen many times and was always a 2 hour booking, never had any problems with him and I genuinely thought he was a decent guy but when he realised he managed to get away from my place without paying (took about an hour after he left before I realised) he blocked me on his iPhone and deleted his account on AW so I ended up having to threaten him using another number that obviously he hadn't blocked, he ended up paying the following day and came up with some excuse even although his actions with blocking me and deleting his AW profile were guilty as hell.
This is the sex industry and unfortunately, loads and loads of guys think we're vulnerable (which we are) so therefor think they can do whatever they like as most of the time they are an anonymous person with no come back. The industry is filled with chancers so you should never feel guilty about asking for the money first.
Some taxi drivers ask for the money up front (if it's ?20 fare and up) because they know themselves that people sometimes are a fucking joke so why can't we ask upfront and not feel bad about it?
Most guys though do pay without asking or leave it on the side which is the way it should be.
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Treat them like a dog if you catch them...Rub their noses in it!!!
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I've lost numerous jobs in the past where they
go for a pee, change their mind and leave.
Now, if they want the loo, it's money first or
they leave...without using my loo!
Since taking this approach I've lost a total of zero jobs.
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I never let them use the loo before paying.
Even if they're busting.
They are welcome to shit their
pants outside in Starbucks.
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They are welcome to shit their
pants outside in Starbucks.
You mean McDonalds
If staff stop them on the way in & they reply that they are going
to wash their hands before ordering, this is know as:
'McShit with Lies'.
A big dump = 'Go large with that?'
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Cheeky twats! Luckily I've never had the toilet trick that happened to the OP, but I've had a few attempts from chancers. I had one guy who arranged a 30 min incall at a hotel I was working from. He confirmed the price and time he was coming for over the phone, but when he arrived as soon as the door closed behind him he said "so how much is it again?" then he whipped his Cock out and started wanking it furiously whilst looking me up and down... I was so shocked that I just told him the price! But then he goes "so what do I get for that then babe?" to my tits. Luckily I managed to pull myself together and chucked him out. The cheeky fucker even had the audacity to say "Awww come on baby, I'll only be a minute! Don't be tight!" I literally pushed him back out into the hotel corridor with his Cock still in his hand lol! I couldn't believe he had the nerve to just stand in front of me and blatantly wank himself off over me without paying then call me tight for not letting him finish himself off!! I've had a few losers who've tried to get out of paying upfront but that particular occasion will always stick in my mind!
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Well an escort friend of mine let a client use the bathroom before paying. He quickly came out and was on his phone saying his wife was calling so he better go.
She didnt think anything of it and thought he had bottled it.
Then like 10 mins later she went to use the bathroom and walked in to find a big POOH ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR!
Obviousy this guy had intentionally got off on sh*tting on her bathrom floor then legging it! A sick fetish without even paying any money for the pelaasure of poohing on her floor!
She was very pissed off as you can imagine!
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Well an escort friend of mine let a client use the bathroom before paying. He quickly came out and was on his phone saying his wife was calling so he better go.
She didnt think anything of it and thought he had bottled it.
Then like 10 mins later she went to use the bathroom and walked in to find a big POOH ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR!
Obviousy this guy had intentionally got off on sh*tting on her bathrom floor then legging it! A sick fetish without even paying any money for the pelaasure of poohing on her floor!
She was very pissed off as you can imagine!
Revolting but nothing surprises me in the sex industry anymore x
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ive only had one jerk use the loo and then say he'd left the wallet in the car.
luckily most have paid up before or after then id told them to wash themselves if they want oral
no problems so far.
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I hate it when clients ask to use the loo the moment the arrive, I find it very rude. Also I have a ritual I like to follow and if something varies from it I feel a bit ruffled (sounds a bit odd I know). I invite them in my bedroom and sit on the bed exchanging a few pleasantries. If they don't volunteer to hand me my fee in the first minute I will ask for it, then I will offer them a shower. If they refuse the shower I ask them to wash their hands/offer mouthwash. When they are in the bathroom I check the money isn't fake with my money checking pen and them clean my hands after touching the money as I have mild ocd. If they ask for the loo before handing me the money I worry about germs.. Like what if they try to finger me after touching the money...(Money is supposed to have loads of germs)..Sounds like I'm in the wrong job I know, but I love sex!
I never even though that they might be going to the loo first so they can decide whether to stay or not. Anyway I will carry on asking for the money first now I know that might be the reason why they ask to use the loo. ;-)
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I get the money virtually as soon as they're through my front door... and have zero qualms about doing so! One man did say he needed to dash to the loo, but I still made him hand the cash over first.
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I always say ' Certainly after we've have got the formalities out of the way, then we can both make ourselves comfortable' I find that always shows who is genuine & whom is not!
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Wow your client was such a good actor! I never had anyone like that, but if it were happened to me I'd prob let him use anyway, I know it's not a pub let people use free loo all the time but I just don't have the balls to be even little mean lol, but of course I would ask the money before the session begins.
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Had one the other day that was definitely tossing himself off in the bog prior to session. But he still stayed. Took ages to come the second time though lol.
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I generally know when it’s ok to let a guy use the toilet before paying and when it’s not.
Tonight a guy asked if he could use the toilet and l said “let’s get the paperwork out of the way first”
He said if l was going to be like that he was going to leave it.
His previous report on client eye didn’t show up till l wrote mine. He did the same to another lady wanting to use loo first and did a dump 💩 Not establishes whether he stayed and paid for that lady but she said he was a coke head.
Out of curiosity do any of you insist on money before toilet?
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No use of my facilities till payment I'm not a public utility. Pay first or leave.
I don't want them to use my loo to be honest.
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And this got to four pages the last time it was posted...
I'm not bothered one way or the other (and like you I can spot the pisstakers) but I have to ask - leaving the wanking and gak aside, if they're caught short and need a poo where else would we rather they go than the toilet? Surely that's what the thing is for?
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Very good question Amy! It puts me right orf when they poo so I'd rather they leave. I can't factor it into the erotic encounter. The image of them pinching one out gives me the queeze. I don't poo in other people's cribs but that's just me. ???
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And this got to four pages the last time it was posted...
I'm not bothered one way or the other (and like you I can spot the pisstakers) but I have to ask - leaving the wanking and gak aside, if they're caught short and need a poo where else would we rather they go than the toilet? Surely that's what the thing is for?
Haha, I can usually spot the ones who really want to go because I'm also a wee wee-er and it takes one to know one :)
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Ah, well I can poo wherever the need arises but then I do eat some rum stuff ;D.
With so many of the public toilets shut and it being harder to just nip into a hotel to use the lobby one, I'm surprised it's not happening more often tbh. I had to cut what was going to be a long riverside walk short one nice afternoon a few months back when about twenty minutes in I remembered I'd had a pot of tea and half a bottle of water before I set off and all the South Bank hotels were closed :(
Plus if they really need to go, better the proper place than winding up with a shitty bed :-X
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That's my worst nightmare Amy! I've usually got all my toilet stops mapped out because my bladder is terrible. Having had the odd client leave me with brown modern art on my sheets I'm more than happy to let them go ;D
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I’m sorry it’s terrible but I giggled a bit when I seen this thread. I can’t believe there’s guys out there that used the toilet and then decide to do a runner. It’s not happened to me yet but it’s really strange alright. That being said I always ask for the money the minute they’re through the door. I think I’d get a bit annoyed if they wanted to use the toilet first and tell them you can use the toilet when you’ve paid the fee or you can jog the fuck on.
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I am one for the loo lmyself so I et them go and then make sure I take the money immediately after.
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It's like a really vile equivalent of the "look and walk" isn't it? The shit and walk.
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I've made had any problems with this.
One of my regulars probably goes to the loo each time we meet but also has a quick wash for me after.
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Grr. Just had one asshole use my loo then come out with the pathetic cash machine excuse and of course he didn't return.
Have let loads guys use my loo in the past before before handing me the money.
Now wondering if I have to change that and am I going to sound really petty for saying you can't have a wee till you've paid!
So annoyed! :-(
I've not read this thread but I had a guy visit me twice, use the loo and then leave. This was ages ago before I started saving their numbers. I worked out he was going in my loo for a quick wank. 👿
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I don't allow any client to use my bathroom till I've been paid. Like others have said some use loo or shower and then fuck off.
Money first.
Then bathroom second.
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It's like a really vile equivalent of the "look and walk" isn't it? The shit and walk.
;D you put a name to it!
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I do not like them trying to use the loo as soon as they enter. If they say just need to use the loo i say yes sure just pay first please.
I had 1 guy ages ago that went to go straight into the bathroom without saying anything, i said can you sort the fee please he actually had the nerve to say NO i won't i will do it later. I said No it needs to be now!! He still refused so i went into bathroom in front of him and said you need to leave right now i said it's obvious you are trying not to pay. He stormed off muttering something. There is no way he was going to pay anything. Either he would have had a wank and left or tried to get a free service without any payment.
Although there might be the odd genuine guy needing to use bathroom when they arrive but not worth letting them til they pay up.