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Title: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: northernstar on 14 May 2020, 07:10:43 pm
I’m just sat around family and friends on a birthday party. Of course topics drift from one to another but sometimes they talk about sex work. The usual - no self respect, full of std, mocking etc.

None of them  know of what I do. I love it and earn more than all of them. I just smile but I’m kinda pissed off.

How do you handle the situation - stay quiet or respond in some way? Have you ever called someone out or came up with some witty comeback?
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: amy on 14 May 2020, 07:20:38 pm
Not beyond 'don't be such a cunt, Dave' or whatever, no. People that stupid don't deserve my better efforts :).
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: northernstar on 14 May 2020, 08:30:41 pm
Not beyond 'don't be such a cunt, Dave' or whatever, no. People that stupid don't deserve my better efforts :).


Likewise, it’s just a rant thread and I’m interested in other girls experiences.

Thanks for moving the topic, I should’ve posted it over here.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: MWM on 14 May 2020, 08:39:20 pm
I’ve never been around people mocking sex workers - I’ve been around civvy work friends when the topic has come up and overheard them talking about how much you can charge and kinda joking how “maybe we should do that!”, another time one of my friends telling us how “there are sites where you charge guys and just go for dinner & stuff, you don’t actually have to do anything with them!” She’d even told her mum about it and was seriously under the impression you met for dinner, got paid and left, it was THAT easy and straight forward.
I did actually say to her in private how I could pretty much be 99% certain that something a little extra is expected on a paid dinner date, “don’t ask how I know, I just do” I only did that because she’s very young and I felt like I actually had to warn her!
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Gypsy on 15 May 2020, 09:09:35 am
It really doesn't bother me  :)

A lot of people only say stuff like this because they have no idea what our life is like - they've just been brainwashed by the media.

And everyone is entitled to their opinion. Doesn't make them right though  ;D
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: TantricTease on 15 May 2020, 09:10:41 am
I don’t really care what people who have no real experience of sex workers say about sex work, it’s the same as me judging people who are doing things I have zero knowledge in.  The only thing I will say is that when they talk about hookers like we are gold diggers (I have heard that a few time’s) then I will get them told, women hate hookers coz they’re threatened by us (I think anyway) and men hate us because we make them pay us for the one thing they need/want.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Jackiela on 15 May 2020, 10:13:02 am
I always throw in a sarcastic one like if there was no demand there won't be no  sex workers and it takes two to tango the look on their faces 😂😂 while I just smile inside.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Sexybaker on 15 May 2020, 09:21:22 pm
People are just judgmental anyway they can all get lost if they try to judge me. Most like to feel morally superior especially over work, education  and political views.

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Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: saltysweet on 16 May 2020, 07:38:12 pm
I don't have civvy friends.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: ana30 on 16 May 2020, 08:41:21 pm
I don’t really care what people who have no real experience of sex workers say about sex work, it’s the same as me judging people who are doing things I have zero knowledge in.  The only thing I will say is that when they talk about hookers like we are gold diggers (I have heard that a few time’s) then I will get them told, women hate hookers coz they’re threatened by us (I think anyway) and men hate us because we make them pay us for the one thing they need/want.

I agree, it's a no win situation. However... I have always noticed that gay men tend to be more understanding/open minded when it comes to sex work. I have a couple of civvie gay friends who have gay male escorts as close friends and they can't care less about their occupation. I wonder why the heterosexual crowd tends to be more judgemental and uptightl (?
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: TantricTease on 16 May 2020, 09:59:54 pm
I agree, it's a no win situation. However... I have always noticed that gay men tend to be more understanding/open minded when it comes to sex work. I have a couple of civvie gay friends who have gay male escorts as close friends and they can't care less about their occupation. I wonder why the heterosexual crowd tends to be more judgemental and uptightl (?

Perhaps because the male gay crowd have been judged themselves from day one about who they choose to have sex with so it’s the same sort of thing for us.

I have met a few jealous gay men that seem to be pissed off that men pay female hookers for sex, I have come across this before and there is nothing more scary than having a gay man hate on you, some gay men seem bitter that straight men even exist! A gay man, whom I’ve come to know lately from my area, said to me “all men want to try fucking a man whether they claim to be straight or not”, and this really pissed me off because he WISHES that all men were gay, he also said- (and I’ve heard this being said before on the tv or something) married straight men live a life of quiet desperation” and again, this irritated the fuck out of me! 🤬🤬 maybe him in general just pissed me off, who knows!!😂😂

So you are correct in saying that gay men are the most supportive/less judgmental in female sex workers existing and operating.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: TantricTease on 16 May 2020, 10:03:14 pm
People are just judgmental anyway they can all get lost if they try to judge me. Most like to feel morally superior especially over work, education  and political views.


It’s human nature for humans to judge others and so anyone that says they never judge anyone are telling porkies imo, I judge whether I consciously want to or not, I can’t help where my mind goes straight too when people tell me controversial info about themselves, I am judgmental and I admit it, but I am becoming less judgmental in subjects I have zero knowledge of because I know what that’s like.


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Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Snow Whitest on 16 May 2020, 10:38:59 pm
I seem to attract posh older men who can come across as pompous and entitled..


Hello,

My name is Edwin, but it's invariably truncated to Ed. I saw your AW profile and it is clear to me you are a real woman, which is what I like.
Me? Well I am still in good shape; six foot tall, well built but trim with a full head of silver hair, good teeth, but given travel is currently on hold a fading tan! I am educated and well travelled.

1. Why do I give a shiny shit what your name is, nevermind what it's abbreviated to?
2. In good shape, as opposed to what? WTF does in good shape mean? And why do I bloody care?
3. I'm a sucker for a full head of hair, not
4. Educated and well travelled? Pompous and condescending more like

Back in the day I would have seen him, but I've spent too many hours with these needy, intense types who insist on flogging me the whole booking. Fuck that..
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Lushblossom on 17 May 2020, 06:10:43 am
I always prefer the educated well travelled men.  I think when they write that they mean they prefer an interesting conversation during the booking.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Shewolf on 17 May 2020, 04:19:52 pm
A guy at work was talking about escorts saying they had a really easy time for so much money and enjoy the sex...I told him to go on believing that if it helps. It flummoxed him.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: ana30 on 17 May 2020, 04:59:54 pm
A guy at work was talking about escorts saying they had a really easy time for so much money and enjoy the sex...I told him to go on believing that if it helps. It flummoxed him.

He most probably pays prossies and doesn't know that part of the job is acting like you're having a great time. In his mind "prossies always have a great time" with him. Another deluded man.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Alex6705 on 17 May 2020, 07:40:34 pm
Any of my friends who know what I do wouldn’t speak badly of sex workers in front of me. I’d hope not at all or they shouldn’t be my friend

As for strangers I would tell them maybe to not speak of things they don’t know anything about because they sound like a stupid cunt🙃
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: peaches_xx on 19 May 2020, 01:23:45 am
Arguing with people is generally pointless, people rarely change their views. Either ignore it or get new friends.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Snow Whitest on 21 May 2020, 11:01:39 pm
Honestly, I couldn't give a shiny shit what ppl say or think. I have an aquaintance who I see periodically who always asks what I'm doing work wise, when I say same old, she's like oh I thought you'd be doing something better by now. You sell blinds love, piss off!
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Lushblossom on 22 May 2020, 04:05:55 am
I don't find the people I know spend their time discussing sexworkers.
Title: Why are most people so ignorant about us?
Post by: northernstar on 18 February 2023, 03:54:28 pm
 :FF

More a rant than a question
Title: Re: Why are most people so ignorant about us?
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 18 February 2023, 04:24:30 pm
:FF

More a rant than a question

Because so few of us are open about what we do. So the narrative about sex workers is controlled by people who aren't sex workers.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: amy on 18 February 2023, 05:27:05 pm
I've merged this with one of your existing threads on the subject, NS.

The answer is as VC says; most people are ignorant about things they know nothing about, or at least think they know nothing about. I don't find this at all, because the people around me see me going about my day to day business like every other person, and so as far as they're concerned that's what sex workers do.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: northernstar on 18 February 2023, 05:40:44 pm
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Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: amy on 18 February 2023, 05:51:29 pm
Yeah, he sounds like a cunt, and there are plenty of them. But there are also of plenty of people who are not, and at least you've wasted a relatively small amount of your life finding him out rather than having it take years to do so :)
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: KK on 08 March 2023, 08:00:20 pm
I usually respond with the academic arguments against their points of view, but without pushing it too much.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: roseanna on 01 April 2023, 02:04:03 pm
Arguing with people is generally pointless, people rarely change their views. Either ignore it or get new friends.

The classic Mark Twain quote comes to mind - Never argue with stupid people, because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Title: Re: How do you act around civvy friends talking judgmentally about sex work?
Post by: Missizzy on 01 April 2023, 04:07:23 pm
I think the best way is to pretend to be totally indifferent. The best opinion is no opinion.