yes he did slag the competition, but that was after the heaps of abuse he got....

Actually, his attack and accusations on the other websites, which still remain unsubstantiated I might add, came because Ani-Mae deleted his link, which Amy backed up. His attack was unprovoked and came from out of the blue. Up until then he got no abuse other than to be told not to post his link.

Benny you can be in it. Its Saafe, it dont mind what gender, size or race you are. Its a haven for anybody as far as I can see.

Since I am (still) a member here ? why should I be stopped from posting?  The OP gets to have her say and so does anyone else who might agree or disagree or simply has an opinion.  Luckily, the mental level on this forum is mature with very few exceptions so that people don?t feel like they have to choose a camp.  Posters just express their own individual opinions which happen to be similar.  As the OP asked before everyone ought to take responsibility for their actions and words.  Please do so!  If the OP wants a fair debate then please don?t try to enforce censorship to manipulate a debate in her favour. 

The OP is upset that I am according to her drag up personal matters.  I feel I have a right to be very distressed that she has made a personal accusation and still feel so.  On the relevant thread regarding this web guy only AnnikaMae and Amy posted initially who were both very fair.  And as mentioned multiple times although the OP seems incapable of taking on board than her web mate made some really uncalled for scandalous accusations which are still unproven hence represent slander.   Then I was immediately the next person to add a post and then ?someone? pounced and made her wild accusations.  So where does this not become an obvious personal attack given that my link on her site was also removed?  Adding to that the OP?s nefarious insinuations about a couple of people would be feeling this would be aimed at them and confirming this was the case.  Not that many people actually posted on the entire thread so isn?t rocket science at whom the attack by the OP is aimed at.  The very least she ought to do is concede that it is not surprising I feel personally and unfairly picked on!   

There is a very unfair balance in favour of the OP who comes on here all guns blazing making accusations she still has not substantiated or in the slighted credibly explained yet hides along with her multi nic mate behind an anonymous identity.  She is presenting herself as a victim too scared to post yet immediately belies this victim status by effing and blinding and being as bullish and harsh as those she accuses.  Yet her web guy instead of apologising or at least retracting his slanderous comments now has added something on his website about SAAFE bullying one of its members.  I am walking a really super fine tight rope here because I respect the anonymity of the OP who is trying to manipulate everyone with some vague rant about gang mentality in general yet uses only one totally inappropriate example and still has failed to back up her attack on this forum.  Just to add I had no unresolved issue or any conflict with the OP prior to her vindictive outburst on this thread and was stunned by such an unwarranted public attack! 

The OP is right that it isn?t my show although I just had the guts to say with my full working identity that I am not happy about being unfairly accused to be a gang member and bully.  I am even more annoyed that she slanders an entire board and most of its members in this way.  I am also exasperated that the OP repeats her usual behaviour patter by trying to get her own way on whatever matter and when it does not happen she twists a situation into trying to present herself as the poor victim and resorts to really immature behaviour.  We are all trying to engage in a debate yet the OP resorts to childlike rants how it is so unfair and that I ought not to be allowed to add further to this thread.  The OP needs to learn to take some responsibility for her actions, i.e. when you rant and attack a whole group or individual you then should have the good grace to allow them to have their say too!     

Luckily, there is no cyber waterworks but very much the same pattern of trying to silence others who don?t agree.  If you say anything the OP does not like, i.e. the truth/common sense or god forbid point out that she is trying to manipulate you to get her own way then you are mean and your words are harsh.  I stand by my personality both online and offline I have both a big gob and heart.  But I will be dammed if I let an anonymous someone sniper and cast me as the villain.  I am so glad that in her posts the OP is beginning to unravel more and more and shows what her mental state of mind is.  Not every forum suits everyone but on most boards it is normal to have some debate and disagreement.  That happens when adults exchange their views.  Either the OP accepts this and learns to integrate into an adult environment or she needs to find another venue en par with her immature level.

What has been completely ignored so and left out is how both the people at Mira Design or 69design feel about being so unfairly attacked and a total nobody trying to undermine and besmirch their impeccable reputations!  So when will they get an apology?         

i still do not feel that the thread re webmaster has been properly addressed....has anyone really read it?

I wasn?t going to post as im getting to old for all this, but as you have asked, I have spent the last hour in between finding a new exhaust and drinking coffee to do just that.

So
The webmaster in question, posted a link to his site which contains a lot of spin about how male escorting will make you rich
One of the admins, removed the link and pointed out, that he was selling nothing more than snake oil
Im guessing here that because there are numerous posts on safe pointing out male escorts will not get rich, it would be wrong for saafe to then carry his advert leading to that nonsense
He then posted explaining he knows nothing about the popularity of male escorts, which is interesting when a quick search of this site would answer that, and doesn?t exactly inspire confidence for customers.
And then he made his so far unfounded attack on other webmasters deciding that because of the above, somebody sees him as a scam, nobody actually said or inferred that though apart from the webmaster himself
That is when it appears some ladies took offence and decided to speak out. And you decided to jump in to his defence, and it has all carried on from there

I seem to have missed this, probably due to my absence from the forum. I would like to form my own opinion on this thread, so could someone (I don't mean the poster someone, just a general someone) please post the link to the thread or pm it to me?

ok this is my absolute last post on this forum...question why do people keep saying i'm hiding behind an anonymous nickname? how bizarre! i have a nickname that i chose and it's 'someone'...you all have chosen nicknames and some are hidden details and some are not! very odd thing to go on about! anyway, i wont bother answering bh as she's off on her usual bs ....

the original thread was about how people express themselves on here and its a forum wide issue by other members inclusive of bh,  on many posts over a long period of time....i am not going to go thru every single post ever written to justify my opinion of the behaviour (name-calling/labelling/insulting/sarcasm/humiliating/hurtful/denigrating shit) that goes on here.  My opinion has already been proven in living action right before your very eyes. 

i think yes its time to put this baby to rest before you lose even more ladies from this forum....(which by the way is more than the 2 of us since this post began)

This thread relates to the following thread
 
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1904.0

Oh FFS, is THIS it? no wonder I forgot about it and then couldn't find it; i was expecting fireworks and major slagging off.

From what I can see until the webperson started slagging off other webdesign sites everything was extremely civil from both sides and after that it got a bit heated, but still nothing that extreme.


IMHO and in Shakespear's words: Much ado about nothing!