Gang mentality? 

I see none of the gang mentality that you speak of.  This site and forum has given a lot of ladies support, networking and some giggles.

When someone posts about a potentially dangerous situation, then its right that other members speak out about it, from their own view points and their own experiences.  If you regard that as being bullies and having a gang mentality, then thats your viewpoint.  The moderation on this board is fair and allows a freedom of speech.  Yes we can be bruitally honest on this board, but then the focus of this board is to keep us safe in the industry we work in, and sometimes that is needed.

Im sorry that you dont like that but I do feel at times that is needed.

Penny

Well im sorry you feel this way but on many forums its a good idea to lurk  and observe general etiquette firstly. Unless you are in any imediate distress or about to part with large wads cash.
I must confess I felt nervous about posting at first, but I must say the whole "gang" here try to advise on  a subject they KNOW about. They come across to you as bullies? I would say think about it. They appear to be some of the most generous spirited people I have come across. Or would you want them simply to ignore your post and not attempt to help?  Saafe rocks!

Someone, welcome, and hope you stick around to get to know us.

What you have on Saafe are strong willed ladies who do speak our minds, and can smell bullshit a mile off. Plus, we don't suffer fools lightly. But to say we have a gang mentality, is coming it on a bit strong. If someone genuinely does have a problem, they can come and seek help, but if they have a hidden agenda and are trying to work some angle, welllll, you have witnessed what the results can be. And even when the ladies do get wind in their sails, there is still level of civility that pervades the put down. Unlike, a few other sites, both beginning with P, where a serious viral kind of gang mentality does reign, and sometimes I think the inmates are running the asylum.

But that being said, I too am sure this thread will pan out and take on a life of its own.

most topics everyone is fine and helpful but there are many posts where i have found this to be the case...as for the few who have so far responded i have not felt any of the bullying and mean behaviour i mention coming from them! i have been here before in another guise so i know of what i speak.  Also, maybe 2 people will think 'oh she's talking about me, how dare she!' actually, i AM speaking about them, but a whole lot of others too...saafe does rock its just sometimes the posts get out of hand and people just go off on one without thinking about how their remarks impact on others...its not just me who thinks this way either!

If you dont want advice or dont like it then dont read. Simples. At least read the info on the main board though. There is nothing here to read other than workers here having a place to read warnings, ask questions, come home ready to vent about TWs and have the odd giggle.
Welcome to Saafe.

The ladies on this site are intelligent, have strong personalities and opinions and don't tolerate any  BS.

Sometimes I don't like what they have to say, sometimes they don't like what I have to say and  sometimes they are saying exactly what I am thinking - most importantly they don't mince their words and can agree to disagree.

Someone, if you read at the  posts you are talking about again you should see a communality between them. They fall into a few groups such as:
1) people who are asking for help, but have not made the slightest effort to research things for themselves and want their hand held step by step - if that is their mentality they wouldn't survive in this industry anyway as often you survive on your wits.
2) men who think they are gods gift and want their egos massaged - we have to deal with too many of them in everyday life - why should we put up with them here too?
3) people who try to endear themselves with the hidden agenda to make money out of us - well, same reason as for 2

If it seems like gang mentality then it is only because we happen to have the same opinion and we are not just jumping on the band wagon, but are expressing how we feel .

I apologise if I have treated you or anyone else undeservedly harsh, but I have just said what I think and feel.

Really?  Maybe you and I have been reading a different saafe then because I beg to differ.  Sometimes I find some of the personal attacks on here more than harsh and totally unecessary and it seems there are many who fear to stand up for being the centre of such attacks.  Seems also at times that once one starts then others like to jump in quickly and add insult to injury. 

Well Blossom, either you or the OP are welcome to post links to these 'personal attacks', in fact I wish you would because I can't think of any either. There is a world of difference between drawing attention to and commenting on a poster's prejudice, ignorance or otherwise stinking attitude and attacking them personally; as most of you will have seen, the latest wannabe gigolo got a flea in his ear the other day from me not because he was asking the ever present straight-male-escort question, but because he came bowling onto the forum without reading any of the other threads, posted a totally inappropriate picture of himself with another person and wrote possibly the twattiest first post I have ever seen. A few days beforehand there was another bloke posting about escorting in the Seeking and Offering section who got a totally different response, not because his question had any different an answer, but because he wasn't acting like a complete arsehole.

As far as the webdesign bloke goes, I was writing my last post on that thread as Brandy was locking it and I didn't realise it had been locked until I went back to the general menu, but if anyone can find anything that constitutes a personal attack on there or any of the content which is factually incorrect, by all means point it out although since the OP of that thread is a grown man, I'm surprised he needs others to fight his corner for him. Perhaps his defender would feel differently if she was a straight man who had read all the blurb on his site and lashed out nigh on ?400 on a website - and I notice the issue of his disgraceful comments about the other designers are being conveniently ignored (as is his ever more childish and petulant displays towards this site, as anyone who has seen the new edit to his website's SAAFE link will know).

No-one is on a high horse here, and anyone is free to make whatever comments, suggestions and remarks they like. That includes me, and I will continue to do so. To be honest, if the thought of what an anonymous person on an internet message board thought of or said about me was bothering me that much, I probably shouldn't be shagging strangers for a living (which is what I've been doing all afternoon, and why I'm only responding to this now). I also agree with Honey that the only real reason behind this thread (which I suggested 'Someone' started in a effort to try and clear up any misunderstandings) does indeed appear to be as an opportunity to further rant about the treatment of her friend, not for the general good of the forum or it's members.

Anybody who feels they have been personally singled out, attacked or unfairly criticised, is welcome to say so either here or via PM. But we are not here to pat each other on the back and go on about how great everything is, and anybody who joins a lively forum expecting everyone to agree all the time is not only extremely naive, but on a hiding to nothing. Moreover, if our website-designing member wants to (and thinks he can) defend his slanderous comments he should be here doing it himself.