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Escorting seem to have become popular...
« on: 07 July 2013, 01:09:58 pm »

Over the years, it seem the media have in a way made escorting glamorous, in the sense of you can loads of money, and there seems to be less stigma surrounding it. It seems much more people see it as  a way of avoiding getting full time work or education. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But I don't think everyone is cut out for this kinda of work because emotionally and health wise, it can damage you seriously if you are strong and prepared.

But the more and more it becomes popular, what effect does it have on the younger generation and the country? Just like the way everyone want to be a pop star now, but fewer people seems skilled for jobs like doctors e.t.c

Yes, I do it it will have to decline at some point because of too much supply = less demand = less prices...

How do you feel with the market being over saturated?

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Re: Escorting seem to have become popular...
« Reply #1 on: 07 July 2013, 02:06:46 pm »
Do you mean escorting as in social companions or escorting as a cover for prostitution?

 If you mean there is a rise in prostitution then I would say there are less prostitutes statistically in this country than ever before in history.

Throughout the dark,middle ages onto the Victorian and Edwardians time prostitution was rife as there were no other means for women to make money it was wasn't looked down on at all. In fact many woman went onto many into wealth and even royalty or as mistresses produce children with title.

The word scrubber for example which mean tart is taken from maid is is a female servant who would have to supplement her income by prostitution or by sleeping with (sadly sometimes by force) with the master of the household.

The sexual offences act 1959 was really put in place to end a very common practice of street prostitution, and it was a very common as in usual thing to see in public.
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« Reply #2 on: 07 July 2013, 02:54:27 pm »
Well, there's never been a huge stigma on the gay scene, either for escorts or clients, and yes there are more people escorting. But for established escorts, I suspect that much of the drop in work is more a demand side thing though - clients have less money to spend.

I wonder if there's an equivalent board for drug dealers, with complaints that men on the scene aren't buying like they were a few years ago...
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« Reply #3 on: 07 July 2013, 03:00:38 pm »
Well, there's never been a huge stigma on the gay scene, either for escorts or clients, and yes there are more people escorting. But for established escorts, I suspect that much of the drop in work is more a demand side thing though - clients have less money to spend.

I wonder if there's an equivalent board for drug dealers, with complaints that men on the scene aren't buying like they were a few years ago...

If there were such a thing I guess the police would be onto them like flies on cake ???
« Last Edit: 07 July 2013, 03:11:46 pm by Chanel »
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« Reply #4 on: 07 July 2013, 03:37:25 pm »
(The business may be too cut-throat, but otherwise I would be amazed if there isn't one somewhere. There are online drugs markets, after all.)
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« Reply #5 on: 07 July 2013, 04:14:01 pm »
Maybe but as the legal high market is quite new and I wonder if they would would have the problem of over sautration already.

As selling drugs is illegal Im abit confused why any one would compare something thats legal to something thats not?

 ;) Ohhhh by typing it out I think I see what I think I see what you mean...
 
Old time prostuition and the other thing was done on the the street.
Modern time escorting and legal highs are now done online?

So maybe its not that the market is saturated it maybe that times have changed with the advent of technology?
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« Reply #6 on: 07 July 2013, 08:22:22 pm »

Over the years, it seem the media have in a way made escorting glamorous, in the sense of you can loads of money, and there seems to be less stigma surrounding it. It seems much more people see it as  a way of avoiding getting full time work or education. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But I don't think everyone is cut out for this kinda of work because emotionally and health wise, it can damage you seriously if you are strong and prepared.

But the more and more it becomes popular, what effect does it have on the younger generation and the country? Just like the way everyone want to be a pop star now, but fewer people seems skilled for jobs like doctors e.t.c

Yes, I do it it will have to decline at some point because of too much supply = less demand = less prices...

How do you feel with the market being over saturated?

Opinions?

I don't think it will decline  - not massively     what will happen is for the uk is that  some girls they will look outside of the uk/England  to make more money  others will decide that its not worth the risk anymore in terms of what its being paid  Most of us have a minimum price that we want to earn and for me if i felt that i had to go below that then i would stop working as i wouldn't see it as being worth it


happend in Spain and many other countries when the prices dropped they go to another country  to work 
However  what tends to happens is that because the prices are so much higher in the new country  than at home they will often  drop there prices to a more realistic price as its always going to be 3time more than what they charged at home   Which in ireland case was virtually half of what it used to be in the past   

      Sadly with the event of so many girls flocking to Ireland and the recession  prices plummeted virtually overnight  You have 80 euros service which is ?60 which was unheard  of for Ireland

Ive watched the prices on average come down from 250 200 150 to on some escorts 100 euros an hour which means its no longer profitable to tour to ireland anymore for many 

A good friend of mine is in Dubai at the moment where the prices used to be 2000 /2500aed   so   ?300  ?350 per hour but now you have loads of girls that are charging 500 -800  So approx.  100 -150  in the clubs /bars and guys will get them  for all night often  so its no where near as good as what it used to be like  when you factor in the risk and the laws and the price of going there   


No way will i go somewhere and charge less than what i do at home and to take all the risk   Not fucking worth it -   rather be plodding along at home with no overheads than stressing myself out somewhere in a hotel for the same amount or 20quid more
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Re: Escorting seem to have become popular...
« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2013, 08:41:26 pm »
Media portrayals of escorting might inspire some girls to give it a try but I doubt they'd last long if they were expecting secret diaries of a call girl and were suddenly faced with the reality. I'd agree with xw5 that the state of the economy has a bigger impact.
http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21578434-old-industry-deep-recession-sex-doesnt-sell
The economist says we're suffering from the recession.. Some interesting stuff in the article but I started just before 2008 and the only difference has been that I need to spend more on advertising to get the same number of clients.
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« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2013, 09:03:25 pm »
One thing that deeply worries me, is human trafficking. I think it is heart breaking that women are locked in rooms, forced to sell their bodies, worst of all, many men know that something isn't right and don't report it to the police. I think this has taken a big chunk of profits for independent escorts and will continue to do so. This government seriously needs to sort out the immigration issues and how easy it is to get in without no papers, plus it need to do more to stop human trafficking whilst protecting sex workers. Just feel this government hasn't done enough to invest in the younger generations future by cutting funding for learning e.t.c

Britain still is the number one destination in Europe for immigrants. I only see it getting worse the more different countries join the E.U.

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« Reply #9 on: 07 July 2013, 09:55:28 pm »
You've been reading the Daily Mail/Express again :)

Trafficking exists, but less than you think. The vast majority of clients are not interested in raping someone.

Per 1,000 inhabitants, the UK had fewer immigrants in 2011 than Denmark, Greece, Spain, Sweden, Ireland, Austria, Belgium, and a handful of the tiny states.
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« Reply #10 on: 08 July 2013, 12:17:14 am »
Well as student who is only planning on escorting/whoring/hooking/prostituting for 2 more years, I got into this life though a friend I met at university. I don't think I would have ever got into it any other way and this was well before the credit crunch/recession. I was broke and I have no family or partner to support me financially. I personally have never watched an episode of belle de jour as its just silly tv. 
Students both male and female have used sex work to supplement their income for years. Just as nurses, secretaries, maids even self employed business people also do. I have heard of professionals doing it to fund "bad" habits or just for the kick of being paid for sex.

I wont lie there were times I lay in bed at night and cried at a world where a girl had to do such things just to strive for a higher education. But I am also glad that I am able to reach for my dreams and that one day the sacrifice will be worth it so that when I have my children, they would not have to do what I had to do.

 I didn't have to do this though. I could have sat on benefits or in a low paying job. I chose to study as by by getting into a profession one day things will hopefully be better. If not then I will have a comfortable life by continuing to this on a full time basis with the goal of buying my own property and setting up a business in the future.

This is the oldest profession in the world as they say isn't it? People will enter into it regardless for whatever reason but what is new is that its never been so easy to set up on your own and all you need is a laptop and internet connection That's what I was trying to say in my previous posts.

It is worrying re student cuts and what not but life is what you make it and its still possible but we just have to work abit harder to accomplish our dreams. 

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« Reply #11 on: 08 July 2013, 09:37:51 am »
I haven't watched Belle de Jour either for the same reasons, but I've read one of the books and it's so far removed from the daily reality for most people that I think it's done us a disservice, because it has raised expectations. I read a book when I was quite young and I became fascinated and always wanted to do it, but the book I read was much more down to earth. What I've noticed in the last few years is the influx of girls from other countries who take clients away with their lower prices and then disappear only to be replaced by new ones. Clients have become more mobile, visiting more girls, and they have become resentful as well because they get conned by false advertising, and I think this is the main reason why there are so many time wasters now. I have several steady regulars, but I used to have a lot more. It's generally the younger ones that have drifted away. They definitely don't have as much to spend, and they book less often and for a shorter time. The only good thing Belle did for us was increase the numbers of men who decided to become clients. I shan't give it up because it fits my lifestyle and I enjoy it too much, but the scene is changing all the time and not for the better.

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« Reply #12 on: 08 July 2013, 10:20:40 am »
I can see why students are getting into , wow have you seen the tuition fees. I know in Australia, international education is it third biggest export. Just shows how much governments, are making from it. I remember labour complaining that there weren't enough skilled people in the U.K, because no one was training. Yep it's too expensive if you aint getting a loan, even then cost of living when people can't get jobs.

On the human trafficking thing, just meant in general, world wide I guess. I don't know if anyone has watched Lucy Liu human trafficking documentary, it's very educational,and just as upsetting.

I do admit, I do read the Daily Mail, but lately getting annoyed by it, as it just puts down women. One day, they say saying women shouldn't wear make and be proud of their curvy figures. Then another article on the same day, rips apart a female celebrity for not wearing make up and putting on weight o_0. Any other entertaining online newspaper :P

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« Reply #13 on: 08 July 2013, 10:29:02 am »
I don't think it will decline  - not massively     what will happen is for the uk is that  some girls they will look outside of the uk/England  to make more money  others will decide that its not worth the risk anymore in terms of what its being paid  Most of us have a minimum price that we want to earn and for me if i felt that i had to go below that then i would stop working as i wouldn't see it as being worth it
 
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No way will i go somewhere and charge less than what i do at home and to take all the risk   Not fucking worth it -   rather be plodding along at home with no overheads than stressing myself out somewhere in a hotel for the same amount or 20quid more

I don't think it will get any easier, I think as more people are made unemployed more females (males too I suppose but not so many) will turn to prostitution thinking it is an easy buck, which anyone working now knows its not.  I think things are just going to get harder and harder for each and every one of us.

Im like Paris, unless there is going to be a decent profit return I wont tour, Im not going to be inconvenienced for a small amount.  Anyone who would would be crazy IMO.

I don't know if it happens as much now as it used to but on AW females who worked together and had friends coming and going, also agencies used to 'sell' or 're-use' previous profiles with feedback for new girls, and they would live off the back of previous workers.  Its a false security for guys and doesn't help the long term girls who have been honest from the beginning.
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« Reply #14 on: 08 July 2013, 12:05:25 pm »
Like another poster above said the percentage of prostitutes has never been so low in history than nowadays in the UK. And it makes total sense as women entered the workforce and are slowly aquiring  financial, political and social power so there's no need to sell our pussy anymore. In the old patriarchal days getting laid was a very difficult thing for a young man as a lady could not give away her "virtue" (and if she did it had enormous consequences). Nowadays it's pretty easy for a man as women are giving it for free "left and right". I have many straight male friends who get laid regularly on a drunken night out or through the casual encounters on craigslist. And it's all pretty much "no strings attached" (I see my neighbour with a different girl every weekend, and the guy is not even good looking).

Of course you always have the married men who don't go on drunken nights out and have no time for affairs or cruising craigslist. Those are the ones who will keep us on business (god bless them).

My point is that as pussy becomes "free" and the economy shifts (for worse) prices will go down. Its inevitable. Then you get  inmigrants working for a very low amount while thinking they hit they lotto. (sadly this applies to any job not only prostitution)

Sorry for sounding so pesimitic but things are never going to get better (to the contrary).  ???

I have a very strong feeling that in the future sex work will be finally accepted, a branch of "social work", with very low pay and like all social workers you will need a council license.
« Last Edit: 08 July 2013, 12:09:06 pm by Ana30 »
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