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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: MISS RUBY on 06 February 2012, 06:26:47 pm
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I am very stressed and low every call today has been from a waste of space male who cancelled within hours of their booking. can some of you ladies let me know what is going wrong ! please check out my aw profile if you have time and feedback welcome. SECRET MISS RUBY .
hope thinks improve by Tuesday...
Ruby x
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You are not doing anything wrong. It happens to me too and I tend to get them all on the same day as well unfortunately.
The minute I get two in one day I ditch the appointment system completely and just tell them all to come. x
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Don't panic Ruby. February for escorts is notoriously known as the worst month of the year so just bear with it and once we are thru february things will start taking off again.
I agree with what LOTM says too.
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Always make sure you have something constructive lined up to do should any bookings fall through. I find it really helps.
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I think the best thing to do is to make a conscious choice to NOT give them any of your energy. They are not worth it, hard as it may be sometimes to let it go - I try to think to myself 'well it says much more about them than it does about me'. I get days like that too, and like LOTM says if I am struggling financially (ie paid out on a room) then I will also ditch the appointment system so I'll at least then get a booking to cover costs.
I second the above advice about having something nice lined up to do after work, even just something small you enjoy x
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Amazing how my takings go up when I ditch the appointment system and do a first come first served. x
If things got really bad I would go as far as double or treble booking. x
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I used to accept telephone bookings but nearly every one was a time waster or turnt up and they were proper foul.
So now i only accept bookings from members of adultwork with regular positive feedback and i am not short of work.
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Had my first no show today so fuck it. I am double booking, even treble booking from now on. I am never turning away customers for those idiots again.
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Had my first no show today so fuck it. I am double booking, even treble booking from now on. I am never turning away customers for those idiots again.
But what if two genuine clients book you and show up and you have double booked them?
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I just put the mobile number on the profile and often can tell quite quickly these days who is a tw or not.
sadly the block list on the phone is getting longer.
If after 4 bookings have not turned up i just quit for the day as i can become irritable and dispondant!
O xx
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with every phone call i say im not sure if im availble at the moment ( for the time that they want ) and i ask them to call back in say 10 mins as i will know by then if i am going to be free
the genuine clients will call back those that are going to mess you about wont
also i dont take bookings hours in advance not more than 1hr generally unless it a regular client that i know well
its not 100 percent fool proof but i dont get loads of timewaster and in ireland for the past two weeks i had no more than 6 nowshows which for ireland is like getting 100 percent in alevel maths as its notorious for timewasters
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Well I've said it before and I'll say it again. Make them book online. I hardly ever get a Timewaster actually book me online. Had a guy ring up yesterday 'when are you avalible please' I said either 3.30 or 7.30 but you need to book online for me to take the booking seriously. 'No problem, yes I'll do it now' 30mins later and no booking and I know I have saved myself from another timewasting prick! Yay!
LOTM- I know you get pissed of with no shows but I really don't think it's fair to double let alone triple book them! If they are genuine then it's not fair on the client at all. Can't you find another way?
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Well I've said it before and I'll say it again. Make them book online. I hardly ever get a Timewaster actually book me online. Had a guy ring up yesterday 'when are you avalible please' I said either 3.30 or 7.30 but you need to book online for me to take the booking seriously. 'No problem, yes I'll do it now' 30mins later and no booking and I know I have saved myself from another timewasting prick! Yay!
Ok what would be your tip for girls who don?t live by AW? :)
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with every phone call i say im not sure if im availble at the moment ( for the time that they want ) and i ask them to call back in say 10 mins as i will know by then if i am going to be free
the genuine clients will call back those that are going to mess you about wont
I think that?s a really good tip Paris. My TW senses are normally spot on but occasionally one or two still get through the net. I?m going to try it!
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I had checked in at 2. Guy booked 230. I got ready. He didn't show. After 2 hours of no calls I asked hotel if I could leave as wasn't well and their air con wasn't working. The heat got to me a bit as well and I sat outside for a bit really depressed that I could spend a day making nothing rather than spend with my gorgeus grandson.
I wouldn't double book. I just said it because I was angry. I keep thinking of doing it though.x
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Well I've said it before and I'll say it again. Make them book online. I hardly ever get a Timewaster actually book me online. Had a guy ring up yesterday 'when are you avalible please' I said either 3.30 or 7.30 but you need to book online for me to take the booking seriously. 'No problem, yes I'll do it now' 30mins later and no booking and I know I have saved myself from another timewasting prick! Yay!
Ok what would be your tip for girls who don?t live by AW? :)
I don't live by AW. I advertise on punternet and other sites and still get those guys to book me through AW.
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i think i remember you saying that you only see a few clients a week on one of threads so doing it that way could be ok if you only want to see a few clients a day you can sort of get rid of the tw
however if your touring somewhere like Ireland or other parts of the uk where adultwork isnt that well used or well known then it wont work in Ireland you can get 100+++ calls a day easy and easily do 10+ clients there is only one major site in ireland and its not adultwork
lots of girls use the Sports paper for the North and also in Scotland a high percentage of escorts use the sports newspaper and those guys wont have access to the net and those client wont book on line
Well I've said it before and I'll say it again. Make them book online. I hardly ever get a Timewaster actually book me online. Had a guy ring up yesterday 'when are you avalible please' I said either 3.30 or 7.30 but you need to book online for me to take the booking seriously. 'No problem, yes I'll do it now' 30mins later and no booking and I know I have saved myself from another timewasting prick! Yay!
LOTM- I know you get pissed of with no shows but I really don't think it's fair to double let alone triple book them! If they are genuine then it's not fair on the client at all. Can't you find another way?
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with every phone call i say im not sure if im availble at the moment ( for the time that they want ) and i ask them to call back in say 10 mins as i will know by then if i am going to be free
the genuine clients will call back those that are going to mess you about wont
A confirmation system, you say...? Why, yes, I've found they work wonders, too! :D
Obviously my working methods are really different because I'm the opposite in terms of my overall time/energy commitment to escorting but, at the end of the day, you've GOT to have a confirmation system. I might state a particular time on the day of the pre-arranged booking that I would require a confirmation call (early enough that, if I don't get the call, I can either take a same-day appointment instead or just go off and do something else entirely), while Paris' method is far better for those who do a full 'shift' of work with 99% same-day jobs, but requiring a confirmation of any kind really helps weed out the pillocks who are just ringing round making a bunch of bookings while sitting at home, probably pants-less & with willy in hand.
It's fairly common that guys will fail to confirm but at least then your time isn't wasted; you can get right on with seeing the guy who DOES want to confirm because he really DOES want a booking. You don't even waste a single thought on Mr WillyHand, too, which is nice because it's annoying when some numpty puts you in a bad mood and you obviously don't want that to affect your genuine clients.
I could put a little list here of about five or so escorts who I know implement a confirmation system of some sort and - not-very-surprisingly - they are also five or so escorts who you'll never hear complain about timewasters. We all get calls from idiots and we can't do anything about that, but you can choose to implement a system that saves your sanity and allows you to focus energy on only the men who've indicated some actual, genuine interest in meeting you.
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as you said Emily timewasters rarely bother me because it rare that i get them because i filter them out pretty quickly
at home i dont mind them booking several hours in advance as i might only see 2 -3 maybe 4 clients a day so i get them to confirm in the morning before a certain time and if they are coming to see me in the evening i will get them to confirm twice once in the morning and then again 1 hr before the appointment but its mostly lots of regulars that i see at home so i dont worry to much
but when im touring and im stuck in a hotel room and its costing me a min of 100 pounds a day to work and the phone is going non stop then getting rid of timwaster is essential in order to work and to keep sane if you get 10 tw in a day its bad for your moral you wont keep working and probably just think fuck it and go home or switch off the phone
i find to filter out the timewaster buy telling them that i wont know if im free at xxx time but if they would like to call me back in 10mins really dose work its not 100 percent foolproof but its always worked well for me which is why timewaster dont get on my nerves
anyone who has worked in ireland in particular dublin and belfast will know what i mean when i say you can have 10 booking and none of them turn up
take 100 calls and only 1 turn up so i find my method of gettting them to ring back again weeds out the timewasters because they will have 9time out of 10 moved on to the next girl to ring and book its almost like its a national pastime their
with every phone call i say im not sure if im availble at the moment ( for the time that they want ) and i ask them to call back in say 10 mins as i will know by then if i am going to be free
the genuine clients will call back those that are going to mess you about wont
A confirmation system, you say...? Why, yes, I've found they work wonders, too! :D
Obviously my working methods are really different because I'm the opposite in terms of my overall time/energy commitment to escorting but, at the end of the day, you've GOT to have a confirmation system. I might state a particular time on the day of the pre-arranged booking that I would require a confirmation call (early enough that, if I don't get the call, I can either take a same-day appointment instead or just go off and do something else entirely), while Paris' method is far better for those who do a full 'shift' of work with 99% same-day jobs, but requiring a confirmation of any kind really helps weed out the pillocks who are just ringing round making a bunch of bookings while sitting at home, probably pants-less & with willy in hand.
It's fairly common that guys will fail to confirm but at least then your time isn't wasted; you can get right on with seeing the guy who DOES want to confirm because he really DOES want a booking. You don't even waste a single thought on Mr WillyHand, too, which is nice because it's annoying when some numpty puts you in a bad mood and you obviously don't want that to affect your genuine clients.
I could put a little list here of about five or so escorts who I know implement a confirmation system of some sort and - not-very-surprisingly - they are also five or so escorts who you'll never hear complain about timewasters. We all get calls from idiots and we can't do anything about that, but you can choose to implement a system that saves your sanity and allows you to focus energy on only the men who've indicated some actual, genuine interest in meeting you.
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as you said Emily timewasters rarely bother me because it rare that i get them because i filter them out pretty quickly
You were definitely in my little list! ;D
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Paris, as ever - I bow down to your genius!
I've been going 3 years now and it has NEVER crossed my mind to ask them to call back in a few minutes!
Fabulous, thanks! :)
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Thanks Paris, I'm going to try that out too on days where the phone is ringing like mad, to sort the wheat from the chaffe.
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It's a good idea but what if they still ring back after 10mins?
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the timewasters tend not to ring back as i said its not 100 percent but when working in ireland which is notorious for timewasters ( one girl mentioned on EI she has 27 no shows in one day) i cut mine down to 5 for two weeks and of those 3 of them were booking in the morning ie for 10am so they didnt really waste my time as much as they could of done
its not foolproof but the timewasters often cant be bothered to ring you back they are busy wasting someone elses time
It's a good idea but what if they still ring back after 10mins?
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the timewasters tend not to ring back as i said its not 100 percent but when working in ireland which is notorious for timewasters ( one girl mentioned on EI she has 27 no shows in one day) i cut mine down to 5 for two weeks and of those 3 of them were booking in the morning ie for 10am so they didnt really waste my time as much as they could of done
its not foolproof but the timewasters often cant be bothered to ring you back they are busy wasting someone elses time
It's a good idea but what if they still ring back after 10mins?
Any confirmation system isn't foolproof, or 100% accurate but it tends to work the majority of the time. Have had the odd grumpy person who genuinely forgot to phone at the agreed time, and I've decided to make other arrangements but most of the time it does weed out those who really do want to come see you.
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I was touring in Leeds last week. I've been before and mostly saw guys I already knew and they all turned up, but my friend had 6 or 7 no shows!
Really it was unbelievable and thoroughly demoralising and I'm not sure what she could have done to weed them out as there was nothing at all to suggest they wouldn't turn up. Two of them even contacted her to say they were delayed in traffic but were on their way. Neither appeared.
I just don't know why they do it.
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your right sometime there is bugger all you can do to stop them but that many i would be thinking maybe agency or another girl ect trying to fuck her about or something
but timewaster are a real pain in the ass
I was touring in Leeds last week. I've been before and mostly saw guys I already knew and they all turned up, but my friend had 6 or 7 no shows!
Really it was unbelievable and thoroughly demoralising and I'm not sure what she could have done to weed them out as there was nothing at all to suggest they wouldn't turn up. Two of them even contacted her to say they were delayed in traffic but were on their way. Neither appeared.
I just don't know why they do it.
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Amazing how my takings go up when I ditch the appointment system and do a first come first served. x
totally. i dont even do advanced bookings anymore. i say 'yeh yeh wednesday is fine, call me on the day to confirm'.
defo first come first served. coz my plans will change as much as the punters.
also - punters dont get the horn in advanced. yeh their horny on monday when theyre on the internet scouting for a f**k but when wednesday comes they've gone cold.
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Amazing how my takings go up when I ditch the appointment system and do a first come first served. x
totally. i dont even do advanced bookings anymore. i say 'yeh yeh wednesday is fine, call me on the day to confirm'.
defo first come first served. coz my plans will change as much as the punters.
also - punters dont get the horn in advanced. yeh their horny on monday when theyre on the internet scouting for a f**k but when wednesday comes they've gone cold.
Funny you say that because I don't find that at all. I much prefer advance bookings and they are usually the ones that are much more reliable. I have one particular client who always books me about 3 months in advance!