Author Topic: Dearest Lord up above, please send me some cute clients! (Read 10263 times)

Anika Mae · « **Reply #15 on:** 13 March 2010, 12:33:09 am »

Quote from: BurlesqueHoney on 12 March 2010, 02:49:17 pm

Och Cassie, please do not waste your great caring advice, energy not to mention good will on someone so narcissistic and wrapped up with himself. It is time to ignore the ungracious constant ?knit yourself a drama? merchant.

Still one got to laugh at the unintentional irony of the ?needy? one pointing out I am not using my own image as an avatar that from a man that used a palm. Mind you the tree seems to have a nicer personality....

Reign it in, BH. You're as capable as anyone of ignoring posts that annoy you.

BurlesqueHoney · « **Reply #16 on:** 13 March 2010, 12:45:08 am »

Quote from: Anika Mae on 13 March 2010, 12:33:09 am

Quote from: BurlesqueHoney on 12 March 2010, 02:49:17 pm
Och Cassie, please do not waste your great caring advice, energy not to mention good will on someone so narcissistic and wrapped up with himself. It is time to ignore the ungracious constant ?knit yourself a drama? merchant.

Still one got to laugh at the unintentional irony of the ?needy? one pointing out I am not using my own image as an avatar that from a man that used a palm. Mind you the tree seems to have a nicer personality....

Reign it in, BH. You're as capable as anyone of ignoring posts that annoy you.

Absolutely - I think that is a good idea

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onagainoffagainGFE · « **Reply #17 on:** 14 March 2010, 10:20:09 pm »

I'm always hoping that my next client will be clean, discreet, kind and respectful of boundaries. That my client should be physically attractive has always been very far off my list of concerns...

...if anything, the satisfying, sometimes explosive, sessions I have had with men of generous girth has obliterated any fat-phobia that I may have once harboured prior to becoming an escort...

SnakeLady · « **Reply #18 on:** 15 March 2010, 12:55:08 am »

I actually do have some sympathy for the OP. As according to some documentaries I've seen on telly, Texas has a huge problem with obesity. And I don't mean with people who are a bit pudgy, but with people who no longer can lead normal lives due to their obesity.

People who can barely walk (with some even using wheelchairs), who suffer obese related illnesses, can't breathe normally but have a very heavy, asthmatic breathing and basically risk a very early grave. And yet despite all this still don't manage to loose weight. Personally, I don't see it so much a weight issue but as a refined carb addiction spiralling out of control.

As from an Escort's perspective, I'd draw the attention not to their weight, as to the fact that their personal hygiene so often suffers as a result of it. Now, I'm not saying all obese clients smell and pudgy/average sized don't. Only that IME most heavily obese clients have had smelly privates, as I'm sure layers of bellies can get in the way of reaching them. Add asthma and mobility issues to it, and cleaning yourself could sure get tricky.

A way round it is to maybe insist on a proper soak in the bathtub first, or assisted shower. Or if you still want to go ahead with the booking, use loads of talcum powder where it matters.

I know this isn't easy (and I'm trying to reset some of my own boundaries here from when I was last working in brothels) but I don't think an Escort needs to go ahead with bookings with clients who won't/aren't able to wash themselves properly. So by stressing cleanliness as a strict boundary and even be prepared to turn down guys who can't comply with it - you could reduce those clients whose obesity levels prevents them from getting themselves properly clean.

Unless of course they are happy to take better care of their personal hygiene.

SnakeLady

cassie · « **Reply #19 on:** 15 March 2010, 02:43:48 am »

That would be fine SL if the OP was referring to his clients hygiene issues, but he was clearly talking about the distaste the clients looks raised.

I have a dislike of unhygienic clients too and have come across that problem in slim and fat people and generally find fat people are often more concious about hygiene and smell issues due to prejustices held against them.

Anyway I should better hold my tongue before I go to far.

BH, if you are reading this - thanks for your comment, I think you and I are singing from the same hymn sheet and I did type a response to Joey a couple of days ago, but knew it would just get ugly, so deleted it all.

Anika Mae · « **Reply #20 on:** 15 March 2010, 09:51:29 am »

(With the mod hat off I'm not impressed with Joey's sentiments either, but we've had a few discussions in recent months that devolved into name calling, and I want that to stop.)

Mango · « **Reply #21 on:** 15 March 2010, 10:05:48 am »

I used to be one of those people that Joey finds so disgusting (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2178.0) and other people seem to think are unhygienic. I was seventeen and had never been overweight, but I went abroad, a friend got shot in the head and things went wrong from there. A year later I was not just obese but morbidly obese (BMI 40+/ 100lbs overweight). I still ran 5k three times a week, so the suggestion that these people can't wash properly is ridiculous and media fed. I don't think these problems come till much higher BMI's and I doubt Joey has any clients that are at that point.

I lost the weight, and it was the hardest thing ever. I used to eat whatever I wanted, now I have to watch my diet constantly, I work out twice what I used to and I still have an extra 15lbs on me. People are not fat because they want to be, changing is hard and diets have a 95% failure rate, which means only 1 in 20 people who start diet and exercise will actually be able to keep any weight of.

But the biggest change was how people treated me. I was suddenly ignored/ passed over for jobs /etc. It is very much like racism, only legal. The idea that you pay somebody to be with you, and that person lets me know they are disgusted seems horrific.

I do understand your feelings about this, Joey, you can not help who you are attracted to, but it does mean you are in the wrong profession. (Faking) attraction is a big part of the job, and if you can't feel empathy toward different kinds of people, I cant imagine how you can be happy doing what you do. I also can't imagine these people are happy with the service you provide.

/rant

Ella T · « **Reply #22 on:** 15 March 2010, 12:06:57 pm »

I'm late to this, but I also don't agree with the OP's sentiments, and didn't read it as humourous.

BH if you're still around, I'd just like to say that I'm sorry you felt you had to go away because of this. I will miss your sharp wit, intelligence and the sound advice you have given to so many people on this forum over the years.

Claudia · « **Reply #23 on:** 15 March 2010, 05:39:54 pm »

As I said before I was offended by the "different species" thing but other than that, it's his life, his clients, his decision, it's not worth a drama

I'm very sorry too that BurlesqueHoney left I loved her posts and learned a lot from her!

Trafford · « **Reply #24 on:** 15 March 2010, 06:45:28 pm »

I very much agree with Snake Lady.

And seeing as others have commentated on BH v AJ, I have to say I find both contributors can be overbearingly negative and judgmental and not very SAAFE like but at least AJ doesn't tend to blast into other posters who are looking for help/someone to talk to. I wouldn't be surprised if between them they have put a few people off posting so good on the mods for stepping in as this place needs to keep on with the friendly and constructive advice for which its known and admired.

UrbaneAspects · « **Reply #25 on:** 23 March 2010, 02:52:05 am »

I been so caught up lately that I've had to avoid this topic, fearing the 'claws' would be too sharp to bear. But now...I went in, fully amoured and ready to explain myself..

Quote from: cassie on 15 March 2010, 02:43:48 am

Anyway I should better hold my tongue before I go to far. I did type a response to Joey a couple of days ago, but knew it would just get ugly, so deleted it all.

Mrs. Thang...there's no reason to hold your tounge or delete messages. Say whats on your mind. I can backup everything I have to say. Or else, I wouldnt say it

Quote from: Mango on 15 March 2010, 10:05:48 am

I do understand your feelings about this, Joey, you can not help who you are attracted to, but it does mean you are in the wrong profession. (Faking) attraction is a big part of the job, and if you can't feel empathy toward different kinds of people, I cant imagine how you can be happy doing what you do.

Baby girl, I know we on the same team here, but like I told Cassie...thats not your place to tell me what I should, or shouldn't do with my body

I do whatever the F**K I wanna do. Who are you to tell me Im in the wrong profession? If I was in the wrong profession, then I would not been able to survive the 2 years that I've been doing so.

In addition, your post is contradicting. You say this job is about being 'fake' with attraction, well the hell...what difference does it make if I voice my opinion about it, and you hiding it? If you have to fake to every client, well YOU, are in the wrong profession

And FYI, I AM happy with what I do

Quote from: SnakeLady on 15 March 2010, 12:55:08 am

I actually do have some sympathy for the OP. As according to some documentaries I've seen on telly, Texas has a huge problem with obesity.

They have no idea. America is a fat country. Come to Texas, where food falls from the fucking sky! European are thin, and some of the BBW's I've seen here would be considered 'pleasingly plump' here in America.

Quote from: Claudia on 15 March 2010, 05:39:54 pm

As I said before I was offended by the "different species" thing but other than that, it's his life, his clients, his decision, it's not worth a drama

Exactly. I can see whoever the f**k I want to f**king see. Everyone can control their f**king weight. No excuse! It starts from childhood. I know everyone's genes are different, but there's thing you can do about it.

Quote from: Mango on 15 March 2010, 10:05:48 am

I don't think these problems come till much higher BMI's and I doubt Joey has any clients that are at that point.

You have no idea...Not too long ago, I met a client who had to breathe thru a respirator because he was so...fat. I know that sounds mean, but there's no other way to say it. Rephrasing it to, "because he was overweight" is the same as saying, "he was too fat!"

So dont tell me, that its not that bad!

Claudia · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 March 2010, 09:31:20 am »

Quote from: American Joey on 23 March 2010, 02:52:05 am

Everyone can control their f**king weight. No excuse! It starts from childhood. I know everyone's genes are different, but there's thing you can do about it.

Actually that is so true! One of my best friends was overweight all his life (he is 33 now) and I don't mean that he was a little chubby but dangerously overweight, he started to exercise regularly and sticked to a diet, it was hard work for him but now for more than 5 years he is a nice average gentleman! And he's not the only one I know. So it is true that it IS a matter of choice to some extent. [offtopic] In my case, too, when I exercise and diet, I always drop several pounds, it's the yoyo effect that is hard afterwards! I find it very hard to lose weight now because of a health problem I had not long ago but I'm definately not in "my weight" now, as a former gymnast I don't really like this, but I have to wait, and until then I'm a proud BBW and I can understand why many people feel comfortable being a BBW. [/offtopic]

Quote from: American Joey on 23 March 2010, 02:52:05 am

You have no idea...Not too long ago, I met a client who had to breathe thru a respirator because he was so...fat. I know that sounds mean, but there's no other way to say it. Rephrasing it to, "because he was overweight" is the same as saying, "he was too fat!"

So dont tell me, that its not that bad!

That's exactly what I said, we can't judge you and your decisions from here just like you couldn't judge ours. Personally I've never been to the USA before and I have no idea how the clients are there.

Anyway, thank you for "explaining yourself"

Anika Mae · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 March 2010, 10:32:34 am »

Quote from: Claudia on 23 March 2010, 09:31:20 am

Actually that is so true! One of my best friends was overweight all his life (he is 33 now) and I don't mean that he was a little chubby but dangerously overweight, he started to exercise regularly and sticked to a diet, it was hard work for him but now for more than 5 years he is a nice average gentleman! And he's not the only one I know. So it is true that it IS a matter of choice to some extent.

Anecdote is not the singular of data. If it's harder for some people to maintain a low weight than it is for others, than surely there are some who are so far on the "hard to keep the weight off" end of the scale that it becomes practically impossible.

As for the people who can keep themselves at a "healthy" weight as long as they never ever eat as much food as their bodies are asking for, fuck I'm not going to judge them if they decide it's better to face the stigma and complications of being overweight than to deal with the pain of being hungry all their life.

anonymoussw · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 March 2010, 12:27:09 pm »

Bless you Joey. You are a dear, but you are also a drama queen!

Quote from: Anika Mae on 23 March 2010, 10:32:34 am

Anecdote is not the singular of data. If it's harder for some people to maintain a low weight than it is for others, than surely there are some who are so far on the "hard to keep the weight off" end of the scale that it becomes practically impossible.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Also, does not the following statement:

Quote from: American Joey on 23 March 2010, 02:52:05 am

thats not your place to tell me what I should, or shouldn't do with my body

Seem a little hypocritical in the light of:

Quote from: American Joey on 23 March 2010, 02:52:05 am

Everyone can control their f**king weight. No excuse! It starts from childhood. I know everyone's genes are different, but there's thing you can do about it.

Even if it is a matter of choice, it is still their choice. If someone wants to have rich food every day of his life, that is completely his prerogative, even if it leads to him having a significantly shorter life, or indeed people not wanting to have sex with him. You are well within your rights to see whomsoever you like. But don't criticise them for the choices they make, as after all - there are many that would criticise you for the choices you have made...

PS - Must you yell all the time?

UrbaneAspects · « **Reply #29 on:** 23 March 2010, 04:10:24 pm »

Quote from: bennyboywonder on 23 March 2010, 12:27:09 pm

Seem a little hypocritical in the light of:

Quote from: bennyboywonder on 23 March 2010, 12:27:09 pm

Even if it is a matter of choice, it is still their choice. If someone wants to have rich food every day of his life, that is completely his prerogative, even if it leads to him having a significantly shorter life, or indeed people not wanting to have sex with him. You are well within your rights to see whomsoever you like. But don't criticise them for the choices they make, as after all - there are many that would criticise you for the choices you have made...

PS - Must you yell all the time?

If I whisper, I dont think my point would get across $:-\$

Now...in the same vein, If its their choice to get fat...its my choice to say not to certain things. What a concept!

If your statement holds true, that automatically disqualifies the comment, "I'm in the wrong profession" just because I choose to feel a certain way about someone who weighs a certain amount.

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Anika Mae

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Anika Mae

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