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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: linglau on 27 January 2020, 09:30:59 am
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Work in Thai massage parlour have had customers calling about new virus and are we Chinese.
Tell them we all are Thai but they decide not to book. Worried now that this virus might affect us as already it has gone quiet.
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Work in Thai massage parlour have had customers calling about new virus and are we Chinese.
Tell them we all are Thai but they decide not to book. Worried now that this virus might affect us as already it has gone quiet.
Although it's so easy to connect 2 things, I have heard the chinese jokes/assumptions and have a suspicion some will or may use it as a reason not to book. However I've a good idea it's just a quiet Monday for many reasons. I also suspect many will just carry on as usual, there's always a reason to tie in with the guilt and provide justification not to go ahead. I have the start of a cold, just a few sneezes I am as usual telling clients, whether they suddenly assume I've picked up coronavirus is up to them.
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People are stupid.
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Ridiculous what some people think.
It's like them saying - Oh, you're a bird you must have bird flu ::) ::)
I agree with Mirror, it's just another excuse. Unless you're actually in China in the affected area ...
I have a regular who is so paranoid about catching things that when he does a slight cold is the flu, despite only having it for 3 days ::) and a slight cough is pneumonia.
Brings a whole new meaning to 'man flu.' ::) ::) ::)
I've had the flu a couple of times and believe me you're in bed for about two weeks unable to move. I've also had other serious illnesses where I've become completely bed bound and it just annoys me how people seem to want to dramatise everything.
Anyway, back on topic. Yes, just another excuse.
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Tell them we all are Thai but they decide not to book. Worried now that this virus might affect us as already it has gone quiet.
People are just ignorant. It's the end of the month, which is a bit slow anyways
I have a few expat clients from China and Malaysia, that I will continue to see
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Work in Thai massage parlour have had customers calling about new virus and are we Chinese.
Tell them we all are Thai but they decide not to book.
People are stupid. I bumped into my young female healthy as an apple neighbour last night and asked her: "How are you?" (small polite neighbour talk), she them proceeded to go into drama queen mode about me how she had sneezed a couple of times last night and she was 100% sure for a fact she had the corona virus. Keep in mind this woman lives in central London and hasn't set foot in china in her whole life. ???
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According to the news, no corona virus in The UK.
But you can get Corona beer ;D
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It is in the UK now.
I'm worried about this. I had a client this week who teaches Chinese students & he had a cold type virus. It wasn't a full service booking but I'm paranoid now. I used alcohol gel a few times during & after & used my sanitising water on everything that came into contact with him.
I'll be upping my l-lysine supplements to double dose.
Had a guy yesterday say he would avoid Chinese escorts just incase. I think that's a little ignorant IMO.
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Banger, I'm worried as well.
It's impossible to get accurate information as the Chinese communist party obviously is not a reliable source.
This virus seems to be very contagious and spreading exponentially, maybe even without symptoms, so in a couple of weeks time, it might not matter if someone travelled from China or not.
It might be a good idea to stock up on essentials, just in case.
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I have just received a text message from my GP that if you have recently returned from China and have flu symptoms, don't visit the surgery and call 111.
I'll take my chances and will keep on working until the first London case.
Folks, if you think that the government is not doing enough, do email the Department of Health via gov.uk, email your MP, tweet and email.
I think it's clear now that sooner or later there will be a lockdown in London, there is no way of avoiding the epidemic, it's just a matter of minimising the consequences.
When the crematoriums will be working 24/7 it will be too late to email and complain.
If all international travel will be stopped and all travel within the country restricted, no public transport and gatherings, I hope there is a chance of minimising this.
If it sounds extreme, well I'd rather be called a lunatic to my face than have written 'remained calm' on my tombstone, except wait, there will be no tombstones as all bodies will have to be cremated immediately to get rid of the virus, just as it's happening in China.
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I believe you;re going a lil bit overboard with this 80's... So far the corona virus has killed 450 people, however the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates the influenza in 2018-2019 was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses and a staggering 34,200 deaths in the United States. This season alone has already sickened an estimated 19 million Americans, hospitalized 140,000 and killed 10,000. And that's just your regular flu in the US. There has been two people diagnosed with corona virus in the UK so far... I think we need to calm down a bit.
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I really wish I'm going overboard with this, Ana.
450 is the official figure given by the Chinese Communist Party. If there was a 450 death toll, they wouldn't shut 3 cities down and build hospitals with thousands of beds.
The 'regular flu is more deadly than coronavirus' narrative peddled by some media is something I would love to believe.
I have never heard of people wearing hazmat suits when dealing with the flu though.
There are 3 cases now in the UK, with the latest in Brighton (transported to a London hospital).
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I think you're blowing things WAY out of proportion, 80s. We had nothing like you're imagining with SARS, for example, or swine flu.
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I think you're blowing things WAY out of proportion, 80s. We had nothing like you're imagining with SARS, for example, or swine flu.
Or ebola or bird flu :)
The media love to scare people. Fear is what sells news.
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The thing with the flu virus is that it mutates every year or so, and that's why flu vaccines don;t work that well. Last years virus flu is different from this years virus. The danger of the corona virus (and that's why people are so scared) is that it mutates every week, hence the reason it's being so difficult to find a vaccine or quick cure to it. Or so I've been told by a doctor who is doing his phd in the subject. SARS and bird flu virus didn't mutate so it was easier to find a cure it seems.
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This needs to get back to sex work, please. If anybody wants to read previous similar threads (the one somebody started with something like 'if there's an Ebola epidemic, will it be quiet?' is my favourite) then searches for swine flu, Aussie flu, Ebola and so on will find them (although I don't remember any about actual flu, the one that kills north of 60,000 people a year and which I've had once; it would have certainly have put me out of action for at least two weeks had I been whoring at the time). There are plenty of general/news discussion boards elsewhere :).
EDIT: I will say that there's a very good article about it in this weeks' New Scientist for anybody who wants to bite the bullet and take their chances with the paper shop :).
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Another New Scientist reader! One of the few publications left worth reading. The other papers and news outlets all steal their stories.
Very quiet here in Gloucester this month, lots of texts and calls but few actual meets. January was quite busy for me.
I put it down to:
February being a slow month anyway
Possible Brexit uncertainty, firms having to face the reality of leaving the EU. Maybe saving cash just in case?
Bad weather. It's cold out.
Coronavirus being at the back of people's minds makes them think more about the general health risks of close contact with another human being (illogical I know but then guys are still asking for bareback)
So lots of factors, let's hope it is all over by Easter ;D Might start camming again, no infection risk there
Lisa x
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It might also be good to read history books.
Trusting figures from Chinese Communist Party is like believing that Stalin was a lovely uncle who cared about his citizens.
According to the latest updates, the incubation period is 24 days. It's extremely contagious, also via aerosolisation and stays on surfaces (like doorknobs for example) for days.
If you think that this country is ready for an epidemic, think of the last time there was a bit of snow here.
How long are you planning to work?
Are you still using the tube and doing outcalls?
Do you have enough food and toilet paper in case of emergency?
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I've had guys cancel as they are paranoid about this virus.
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Yes I'm very concerned as it's very quiet and wondering if I should stop working as it's very contagious and will it be worth it anyway economy's all over the world will be in a melt down.
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We have the first London case.
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I've got slightly busy today.
Corona could be a good thing for work.
Loads of business conventions have been called off so thousands of blokes now at loose end when they thought they'd be in Europe and USA being wined and 69ed!
One monster convention which is 100 thousand capacity just been cancelled in spain.Yes that's a city's new year's income down the plughole.
My mate sees ladies and they're usually booked up theres due to the mass of punters, so he normally has to travel to the burbs for appointments.
He's been to China already and had the death gun ray treatment from a lady in a mask... so if I was gonna catch shit I would have caught it by now. Life's too short for what ifs....
Hope they spend it at home on us! Yayy!
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I find people's reactions to this fascinating.
Folks, if you still think that these useless cunts from the government will help you, think twice and most of all think for yourself.
There is enough leaked information from China to give you an idea of things to come.
I'll take my last booking tomorrow and I'll stop leaving the house unless I absolutely have to.
NHS will not cope with so many cases of pneumonia. The safest bet is to try to avoid getting infected.
But considering how contagious it is, it ultimately it will boil down to your immune system and sheer luck, I think.
Yes I'm very concerned as it's very quiet and wondering if I should stop working as it's very contagious and will it be worth it anyway economy's all over the world will be in a melt down.
The world as we know it is already gone. At the moment it's like watching the Titanic sink.
Will it be as bad as the 1930 depression? Maybe not. But it definitely will be very different.
This virus can act fast, there are cases of people who got better and then just collapsed, so it's time to prepare.
I'll have handy a piece of paper with my movements and people that I came in contact with since 1st of January, just in case it will be needed.
It's best to have such things sorted now.
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Slightly off point but a highly educated friend has found sources of information about this virus actually been predicted one year ahead of its arrival. In addition certain medical/scientific people developed this virus deliberately to reduce some of the Chinese population. This deliberate act of manslaughter has apparently been done in the past in China. He has sent me some links on facebook which are proving most interesting reading.
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I'll PM you for links, Lushblossom.
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Unpleasant, unhelpful post removed. Any more.for.any more?
This needs to get back to sex work, please.
One more time and it's locked.
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Getting busy again today. The blokes still need to get their end away. And of course I am hugely desirable ;D
I think the doomsday scenarios are rather unlikely but the fact that two GPs in Sussex were acting as carriers shows that it is a good idea to avoid hospitals and doctors surgeries if you can.
Stay well xx
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So far I only had 1 guy who has messaged me for a few weeks trying to make a booking and his last enquiry was if I have Chinese clients and if so when was my last one because he is worried that I might get infected from one and pass it to him if he makes a booking ::). Otherwise I wouldn't say that it affected any of my other bookings, I've actually been quite busy.
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This is ridiculous, and far too much scaremongering, as sex workers we come into close contact with people who have colds and so on just as in civvy life, their are so many other things to worry about in life.
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A client recently told me that he did worry whether he should do it (see an escort) but then he saw that Londoners didn't seem all that bothered so it went ahead.
That is just one guy but....you don't know do you? The tabloids have a lot of influence.
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Fear definitely sells more newspapers. It's ridiculous. Although I have been a little anxious about working in London because of it, but I'm also angry at myself for worrying about it... :FF
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Yes it has affected the work, I notice it calmer than usual
and from the clients that come I see that they are more careful not to make contact with body fluids,
I not do FK and the OWO I do it very discreetly with very few clients, but I have noticed a low work ....
On TV and everywhere there is much talk about the virus crown and men are being very cautious and afraid, I had already talked about this with several WG friends and we have all complained about the same ...
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Not worked because of half term. Boss of parlour rang me yesterday and told me not to come in this week as hardly any clients. Only work 3 days a week and suggest next week I only do 2 days.
She think it because of virus and guys are not booking.
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We had the first UK case here in Brighton with our 'super spreader', who is now recovered and back at home. His local is 10 minutes from me and although he was drinking there inbetween his Singapore and French Alp trip, taking yoga classes and attending running groups, no one
in this area has yet become ill.
I think the media are doing more damage to businesses and our paranoia than the virus itself.
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We had the first UK case here in Brighton with our 'super spreader', who is now recovered and back at home. His local is 10 minutes from me and although he was drinking there inbetween his Singapore and French Alp trip, taking yoga classes and attending running groups, no one
in this area has yet become ill.
I think the media are doing more damage to businesses and our paranoia than the virus itself.
Agreed. The media are making it a nightmare for us.
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Work is always slow coming up to February pay day. This virus like any other Flu is passed via the usually means. Looking at stats unless you are old or have a compromised immune system you should be fine. When you think about it we may come into close contact with people but if we are working and holed up in our 'caves' we will actually come across less people than your average 9 to 5 worker. If you are concerned just make every guy shower or shower them yourself. I have seen a lot of posts on Twitter from SW's about this and we are just losing business for ourselves.
Things should pick up this week like it always does after February pay day and if you are originally from one of the countries where there as been a big outbreak maybe try telling the guys that you have not been in that country for a long time x
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Update from Spain:
Authorities found that a woman working at the "La Selva Negra" brothel had tested positive for coronavirus. The findings forced authorities to quarantine the premises and the 86 customers that were inside.
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Update from Spain:
Authorities found that a woman working at the "La Selva Negra" brothel had tested positive for coronavirus. The findings forced authorities to quarantine the premises and the 86 customers that were inside.
Bugger!
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Update from Spain:
Authorities found that a woman working at the "La Selva Negra" brothel had tested positive for coronavirus. The findings forced authorities to quarantine the premises and the 86 customers that were inside.
It was a hoax.
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It was a hoax.
Do you have a source regarding the hoax?
I got this quote from Zero Hedge, which usually is reliable.
Edit: On a second read, it does sound like 'The Onion' though... ::)
Edit (2): It was a hoax. Zero Hedge threw in 'The Onion' style article. Sorry, ladies and thanks for correcting, Moonlight.
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I am currently on a two week tour and I’m getting mortgage money and car finance for three months and putting it away in case this gets worse before it gets better. If we have to isolate or if our schools close for 3 months some of us won’t be able to work. So even though everyone thinks it’s being exaggerated surely it’s better to prepare now so we aren’t all bankrupt by the end of it. I hate financial worries. We have enough warning now to get saving.
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Anybody who has decided to be self employed should have made provision for what they would live on if some event or circumstances meant they couldn't work or earn money for any length of time, or at least given it some serious thought. We could all fall ill, have some sort or accident or household disaster, be called upon to support somebody close to us or unexpectedly lose our place of work, and that was no different a month, a year or ten years ago.
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Anybody who has decided to be self employed should have made provision for what they would live on if some event or circumstances meant they couldn't work or earn money for any length of time, or at least given it some serious thought. We could all fall ill, have some sort or accident or household disaster, be called upon to support somebody close to us or unexpectedly lose our place of work, and that was no different a month, a year or ten years ago.
Great to be prepared. Good stuff!
Do you have a plan what happens to Saafe in case you and Ian die in the epidemic?
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The thing with the flu virus is that it mutates every year or so, and that's why flu vaccines don;t work that well. Last years virus flu is different from this years virus. The danger of the corona virus (and that's why people are so scared) is that it mutates every week, hence the reason it's being so difficult to find a vaccine or quick cure to it. Or so I've been told by a doctor who is doing his phd in the subject. SARS and bird flu virus didn't mutate so it was easier to find a cure it seems.
The thing to remember is if your young and healthy you will ride the storm. But if you have elderly parents and grandparents you regularly see or use for childcare they will not. So it’s worth perhaps baring this in mind when working in areas with lots of people infected.
I do believe it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. And I think the punters aren’t going to risk seeing us as they will think we are high risk.
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I've got some funds set aside for a rainy day anyway, and I'm not working a huge amount at the moment either.
I do have interest but my focus and interest isn't there as much. It's just as well really.
I mean I am really trying to take the hysteria with a pinch of salt though, mind saying that there is something to consider when thinking about the dangers and the concerns.
And it doesn't help when you have clients who drip their runny noses over you. That happened to me last week, that's pretty gross.
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I do have funds set aside, but it's not always easy to save, especially when work is so quiet.
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If you have been in this industry a long time and earnt some good money and have no savings something is very wrong.
If you have been in the industry a long time and do not earn enough to save anything then no point doing this job in my view anyway with the risks and hassle it brings.
Coronavirus or not anything can happen at any time to put you out of work for a period of time so saving when you earn ok or good is the only way to protect yourself if you need time off when self employed.
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If you have been in this industry a long time and earnt some good money and have no savings something is very wrong.
I agree with this, but still feel bad for those who send their savings to family in another country, or dependents to take care of. I cannot imagine how stressful it must be for them.
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If you have been in this industry a long time and earnt some good money and have no savings something is very wrong.
If you have been in the industry a long time and do not earn enough to save anything then no point doing this job in my view anyway with the risks and hassle it brings.
Coronavirus or not anything can happen at any time to put you out of work for a period of time so saving when you earn ok or good is the only way to protect yourself if you need time off when self employed.
I have been working in this industry for ten years, ans I have always made alot. However, I also have children and debts, so no, I haven't put savings aside. I wish it was as easy as you're making it out.
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I have been working in this industry for ten years, ans I have always made alot. However, I also have children and debts, so no, I haven't put savings aside. I wish it was as easy as you're making it out.
Right exactly this. I made decent money for years, had a lot of savings; but then followed 2 yrs of ill health I could not have foreseen, which meant I couldn’t work for long long periods; and bang no savings any more, having to start from scratch.
But to get back on topic I don’t think it is affecting bookings, it is just the usual slow February and springtime. I’ve only had maybe two clients mention it at all.
There’s a lot of panic and misinformation in the media which I think I already mentioned. Unless you have a compromised immune system, are very young, old, or in an at risk group (ie. pregnant) then it will affect you as all mild viruses do.
The best thing to do to avoid catching or spreading ANY virus is to practise good hand hygiene which you should be doing anyway.
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Exactly THE LAST TIME spot on.
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A regular mentioned it in an enquiry, someone else declined on basis that I had a cold which if he caught it could cause CV suspicion issues because of his activities in the next few weeks. Another who cancelled due to my cold would have done the same a year ago. Others have gone ahead as normal, yes they knew about my cold.
I am washing hands more often and paying attention when I am in contact with people in my every day life. On outcalls I usually use the bathroom on arrival including washing my hands, will be more rigorous and ask any incall visitors to do the same. Probably a good practice to carry forward.
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I have been working in this industry for ten years, ans I have always made alot. However, I also have children and debts, so no, I haven't put savings aside. I wish it was as easy as you're making it out.
I have debts too and thousands on bad previous business shut down so i know all about debts. But everyone is different and some people are just not good with saving. I have had past working escort friends that have earnt a lot of money over a long period of time and wasted most of it even though they could have saved lots i do think there is a lot of escorts that do struggle with managing there money it is just the way it is, seen lots who have earned more then me have less pay out then me but still cannot save money and then ask to borrow money off me because they have spent it all even though they earnt more and worked more then me.
I am not making out it is easy for everyone, it would only be easy for people that earnt enough to pay all living costs and whatever they had left they save some of that and do not touch it unless emergency but i understand that everyone is different and a lot just struggle to do that.
I have a working girl friend that makes about 1500 a week and her outgoings are low and she just cannot save more then a £100 from it as soon as it is in her hand it must be spent then when has a bad week is panicking so that is how she chooses to live.
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the last time. That situation is similar to mine i had a lot of time off due to illness and used lots on savings it happens and you have to start again.
But to do with Coronavirus nobody knows how bad it will get so probably as a general rule if you do earn more then living outgoings try to put something away just incase. So far i do not think too many clients are worried about it but if someone was to catch it as there put in quarantine and they want to know where you been who have you mixed with. Cannot see many clients wanting to say they visited a woman for paid sex.
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i do think there is a lot of escorts that do struggle with managing there money it is just the way it is, seen lots who have earned more then me have less pay out then me but still cannot save money and then ask to borrow money off me because they have spent it all even though they earnt more and worked more then me.
I am not making out it is easy for everyone, it would only be easy for people that earnt enough to pay all living costs and whatever they had left they save some of that and do not touch it unless emergency but i understand that everyone is different and a lot just struggle to do that.
I have a working girl friend that makes about 1500 a week and her outgoings are low and she just cannot save more then a £100 from it as soon as it is in her hand it must be spent then when has a bad week is panicking so that is how she chooses to live.
With the best will in the world EG, the above applies to everybody with an income of any kind and not just sex workers; as others have taken up their time to point out, everybody's circumstances are different and some people have outgoings which they've been stuck with through no fault of their own - illness, being dropped in the shit by an partner, or whatever. And plenty of people in civvy jobs just piss their money away too, which is their choice and no-one elses.
It's also nothing to do with this thread, so we'll get back on topic now. I ought to point out that my post was more to do with things are are realistic for everybody, like adding a couple of cheap tins or a bag of pasta to the shopping each week, not setting up some giant slush fund so we can all put our feet up and take a month off whenever we like :).
EDIT: cross posted with post that was finally back on topic :D
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I think sooner or later people will be in a state of panic.
I am thinking about how I can protect myself while escorting? Are any others taking precautions?
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I think sooner or later people will be in a state of panic.
I am thinking about how I can protect myself while escorting? Are any others taking precautions?
The only way to protect yourself is to isolate yourself. Otherwise, handwashing and general good hygiene. No panic here until a few million have it and/or the fatality rate increases, and even then it will be more the practical/social aspects that would worry me.
Of the circa 100,000 people globally who've had it, about half have already recovered.
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I'm more worried on how the effect of the corona has hit the financial markets this week, I just had a finance city type client telling despair how the markets have gone bust and he was freaking out. I'm blaming this on my slow week ???
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I do think however that the human condition doesn't change irrespective of pandemics there will always be clients who are solvent and there will always be those who are in need of our service to cheer themselves along. There are also those clients who won't be swayed by the pandemic at all and will act quite rational. In addition some clients will always take more risks especially the younger ones.
Given we have those four types above I don't think we should be majorly affected if we have a positive outlook and keep our blogs ratings and photos up to date and our availability is good.
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5 out of 6 clients in the last week have not washed their hands before leaving my place after very intimate contact with me. I can only conclude there is little evidence of a panic going on in my little town. ::)
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I did actually turn down a client yesterday because he'd flown in from Asia. I was a bit worried, and decided against it. Can't decide if i was being stupid and overly-cautious or not... :FF
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I know a lot of businesses are issuing staff with thermometers and told they must take their temperature before coming into work, if its raised to stay at home. Is this something anyone would consider doing to a client on arrival?
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I know a lot of businesses are issuing staff with thermometers and told they must take their temperature before coming into work, if its raised to stay at home. Is this something anyone would consider doing to a client on arrival?
People are contagious while being asymptomatic, so measuring temperature will only catch people at the later stage when they start to show symptoms.
I am thinking about how I can protect myself while escorting? Are any others taking precautions?
I stopped working mid-February. The way I assessed the risk was:
a) Keep on working and make some money.
If you get infected, you possibly will pass the virus to the people you live with and meet.
It can have an effect on your health such as: not being able to work for a month, having lung problems for the rest of your life, not finding a hospital bed when you develop pneumonia, or dead.
We don't know enough about the virus to be able to fully assess the health risk.
The money will be gone anyway and possibly your health and those you live with.
b) Stop working, prepare for the financial ruin but keep your health and a functioning pair of lungs.
I don't think that utility providers will hound people for unpaid bills during the outbreak.
My bet is that the peak of this wave here will be April-May-June and hopefully a bit more stable situation from July.
But I don't see anything coming back to normal until there is a vaccine, so probably summer next year.
I don't think I'll work as a sex worker this year, personally.
Most of the people will struggle during the economic depression but my bet is that you have a better chance of surviving with a functioning pair of lungs.
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5 out of 6 clients in the last week have not washed their hands before leaving my place after very intimate contact with me. I can only conclude there is little evidence of a panic going on in my little town. ::)
Same, upon entering my flat I had to remind some of my clients to wash their hands. I’m in London and after a few conversations with some of them, most don’t seem too worried about it at the moment, but know it’ll get worse...
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I stopped working mid-February. The way I assessed the risk was:
I wish I could afford that, unfortunately financial ruin is not an option for me. ???
I live and work in central London and to be honest I fear more being run over by a double decker than death by corvid. I believe extreme capitalism creates mass hysteria as a need to feed its (monster) self and we all just buy into it. Capitalism continuously creates excuses for people run to the stores to buy stuff, and now we're running out of toilet paper and dried food in tesco. When the SEARS virus broke years ago the hysteria wasn;t half as bad, and that's because we didn't had social media.
Seriously people... there's been 2 deaths of corona virus so far in the uk, 2 DEATHS! and they were folks in their mid 80's. Can we stop the apocalyptic thinking for now?
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It’s all well and good saying oh it’s the media making it look worse etc, it’s just the same as the flu blah blah, how does anyone really know this? There’s a really good article that I found comparing the two, don’t know if we can posts links to articles? I’ll post it below and if it’s not allowed please remove. It’s spreading rapidly and for older people it’s very worrying, the majority of people that have died have been over 60. My partner is older and I just can’t be risking it as of now. I would never forgive myself.
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I thought I’d give some information on masks because people are so misinformed about them. I brought mine a week ago, I’ll start wearing them out and about once there are any confirmed cases in my area.
I did loads of research on all the types of masks. The masks you see surgeons wear on the have next to no protection for airborne virus. They are for splattered blood etc. The mask you need for airborne virus is the N95 Mask with minimum protection FF2 and FF3 is the most protective. There are registered companies on eBay etc still selling them, but they are going fast and I’d advice people to get their masks now so they aren’t in a panic if/when it’s all over their town.
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People are contagious while being asymptomatic, so measuring temperature will only catch people at the later stage when they start to show symptoms.
I stopped working mid-February. The way I assessed the risk was:
a) Keep on working and make some money.
If you get infected, you possibly will pass the virus to the people you live with and meet.
It can have an effect on your health such as: not being able to work for a month, having lung problems for the rest of your life, not finding a hospital bed when you develop pneumonia, or dead.
We don't know enough about the virus to be able to fully assess the health risk.
The money will be gone anyway and possibly your health and those you live with.
b) Stop working, prepare for the financial ruin but keep your health and a functioning pair of lungs.
I don't think that utility providers will hound people for unpaid bills during the outbreak.
My bet is that the peak of this wave here will be April-May-June and hopefully a bit more stable situation from July.
But I don't see anything coming back to normal until there is a vaccine, so probably summer next year.
I don't think I'll work as a sex worker this year, personally.
Most of the people will struggle during the economic depression but my bet is that you have a better chance of surviving with a functioning pair of lungs.
Hate to tell you but energy providers WILL hound you for unpaid bills, same as council tax. I am having issues now with SSE. Its business as usual for them.
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5 out of 6 clients in the last week have not washed their hands before leaving my place after very intimate contact with me. I can only conclude there is little evidence of a panic going on in my little town. ::)
I dont understand how they can be so vile but have had them try & do this with me.
What I now do is to insist they wash their hands at the end of the session & if they protest, I just get my sanitiser out & spritz them. I have a large spray bottle, that should last a couple of months. I also make them use it at the start of the booking.
I'm now considering refusing RO & OWO because one guy last week admitted to having a dry cough a couple of weeks ago. Then after he climaxed he coughed all over the bed :FF He also said he was booked to go to Italy next week & was hesitant to cancel his holiday ::) He's now in my high risk avoid group folder in my phone.
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Honestly, it's all scaremongering in the press!
We should all be washing our hands properly and regularly anyway regardless!
The markets will righten themselves in time, when they plummet they always rise again, often higher, this summer will be an excellent time to invest, there will be loads of cheap funds about.
There are no more cases of coronavirus about than any other flu bug that goes around and those with low or suppressed immunity are most at risk, but mostly also know how to keep themselves safe.
Apply the same good hygiene standards you should always be doing and chances are you will be fine!
This will go away in the same way bird flu, SARs and so on will and in the meantime, the government will be burying bad news in it!
I haven't been any quieter than usual, though I am pretty low volume these days - I sometimes think the dips and falls in business have no rhyme or reason anyway!
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Honestly, it's all scaremongering in the press!
We should all be washing our hands properly and regularly anyway regardless!
The markets will righten themselves in time, when they plummet they always rise again, often higher, this summer will be an excellent time to invest, there will be loads of cheap funds about.
There are no more cases of coronavirus about than any other flu bug that goes around and those with low or suppressed immunity are most at risk, but mostly also know how to keep themselves safe.
Apply the same good hygiene standards you should always be doing and chances are you will be fine!
This will go away in the same way bird flu, SARs and so on will and in the meantime, the government will be burying bad news in it!
I haven't been any quieter than usual, though I am pretty low volume these days - I sometimes think the dips and falls in business have no rhyme or reason anyway!
Please read my post above. This is simply not true and becoming very annoying that people are just passing it off as scaremongering ::)
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Please read my post above. This is simply not true and becoming very annoying that people are just passing it off as scaremongering ::)
With the best will in the world MU, you are an anonymous internet poster on a sex work forum and your post carries no more or less weight than anybody else's. It is however completely off topic and belongs on a general discussion forum, and as I've said already more than once, this thread is going to stay on topic.
I do agree that WB's post is flippant if nothing else, though - it's easy and entirely appropriate to dismiss the hysterical shite in the gutter press as the dross that it is, but to suggest that no sex workers are going to experience problems in the event that people's movements (and therefore the movement of goods and services) are restricted is not helpful at all. We've had a few borderline smug posts recently from people who can't get their heads around the idea that not everybody is fortunate enough to have a rainy day fund to fall back on if they're not earning for whatever reason.
As a fit, healthy, solvent adult without dependents in any vulnerable groups I'm not personally concerned about either picking up a bug nor having a few quiet weeks, but plenty of people are not in the same position and depend on their bookings to feed themselves and their families - they need money coming in regularly. If schools are closed (for example) many won't be able to work at all, and I doubt they're thinking much about which cheap funds they ought to invest in in a few months' time.
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Some people here are quite close to vulnerable group members, also there could be assumptions, stigma, finger pointing.
I am worried from a range of different perspectives, both sex work and non-sex work related. It's not simple.
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My only concern is that as a rather long in the tooth s.w ( and personal preference ) my clients tend to be mature with a large proportion of over 60 ... I am worried of unwittingly passing the virus to vulnerable guys and am seriously considering taking time off despite the financial implication and feeling perfectly fine .
That or starting reversing my screening to " Sorry I don't meet men over the age of ..." instead of " sorry I don't meet men under the age of ... ;D
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With the best will in the world MU, you are an anonymous internet poster on a sex work forum and your post carries no more or less weight than anybody else's. It is however completely off topic and belongs on a general discussion forum, and as I've said already more than once, this thread is going to stay on topic.
I do agree that WB's post is flippant if nothing else, though - it's easy and entirely appropriate to dismiss the hysterical shite in the gutter press as the dross that it is, but to suggest that no sex workers are going to experience problems in the event that people's movements (and therefore the movement of goods and services) are restricted is not helpful at all. We've had a few borderline smug posts recently from people who can't get their heads around the idea that not everybody is fortunate enough to have a rainy day fund to fall back on if they're not earning for whatever reason.
As a fit, healthy, solvent adult without dependents in any vulnerable groups I'm not personally concerned about either picking up a bug nor having a few quiet weeks, but plenty of people are not in the same position and depend on their bookings to feed themselves and their families - they need money coming in regularly. If schools are closed (for example) many won't be able to work at all, and I doubt they're thinking much about which cheap funds they ought to invest in in a few months' time.
Yeah I just wish people would understand how much it is affect the over 60s :( They are the ones dying from serious complications. Just because a younger generally fit person will probably be okay and recover fine, it doesn’t mean people should be so flippant :(
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Misunderstood you are scaremongering and there is enough of that all over the news at the moment, some people absolutely love drama, people are not being flippant or downplaying it and yes we do have to take extra special precautions especially as we are in a job that requires extra close (well you can't get any closer) contact, I think in the back of our minds we would all be a bit worried but if we let it start ruling our lives none of us will go out the door for how ever long all this crap is in the news and a lot of us will end up in financial ruin. All we can do is take precautions as in good hygiene and so on and carry on, your posts are not helping so maybe quit being a drama queen (or king as the case maybe) and get on with life.
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Misunderstood you are scaremongering and there is enough of that all over the news at the moment
The phrase 'Shoot the messanger' was coined for a reason.
If anything, I'd say there was a media blackout on the coronavirus news, especially in February.
RBS has today announced it will defer mortgage and loan repayments for up to three months for customers impacted by coronavirus.
Debts will not go away but I don't think electricity will be switched off during the outbreak. Unless the infrastructure collapses.
I would be extremely happy to be alive and healthy in the middle of July. If I'll have to file for bankruptcy then, fuck it.
If somebody didn't grasp the idea of exponential growth at school, this epidemic will give an opportunity to learn.
It's awful to see otherwise intelligent people believing lies from the government criminals and being led to slaughter.
I made a decision for myself based on my situation and what I think is the most probable scenario.
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Some people are going to look at this type of thing different from each other. It is only scaremongering if you get scared by it. There is plenty of people that are still carrying on as normal and not letting it affect there daily life and there is some that are panicking i just accept people will look at things different.
I would say though if it does spread a lot more then it has so far then sex work in general is very intimate so i would put it at a higher risk of spreading. I do not offer as many services as some do but i have already had a couple of clients say to me there not interested in any form of kissing or face touching with the Coronavirus and that is perfect for me but everyone has washed there hands and when service if finished the ones i saw recent anyway.
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And since I'm sick of repeating myself, posts unrelated to sex work removed.
It's also worth remembering that while some people are understandably feeling defensive, dismissing others as stupid, deluded or wrong because they don't think exactly the same as you is not acceptable here either. The people here are adults who can, will and are assessing their approach based on their level of personal risk (including that of their families and personal contacts) which only they know, not the rest of us.
Those of us (including me) who remember SARS, bird flu, swine flu, Ebola and probably a couple I've forgotten will also remember doing the same then. What we can do here is try to support the posters who for whatever reason have decided that they are at higher/exceptional risk and will as a result have to turn away work, and they don't have to explain the reasons for that belief on a public message board.
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This has seriously impacted on me now. Since my last post I haven't worked in parlour and had no outcalls either. Ive had to apply for Universal Credit, no idea when or if I get something.
Been given chit for Food Bank. I have to childs under 12.
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Just Skype with my father in Thailand, he tell not to worry. Logic he thinks good. Virus will become weaker eventually for it survive. He said not a brilliant survival strategy to kill off the host they live off.
All humans dead, all virus dead. He cheered me and make happy.
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I can understand how this can worry some folk, especially the ability to earn.
I cant say if the lull is due to the virus outbreak or if still carrying on from Christmas; if I remember correctly things didnt really start moving again until March last year. My regulars certainly havent been put off and I have met a couple of new clients in this past month, but I also dont offer full service now so my business levels may be slightly lower that those who appeal to a larger market.
I did have one client try and cancel his booking concerned that if he caught coronavirus from me then he wouldn't have a good excuse for his wife as to where he got it 🙄 after I told him his deposit was non refundable anyway, he quickly realised he was being paranoid and daft, more to the point.
I'm not panicking over it, I'm not bulk buying toilet paper and thankfully dont use social media or else I would have lost the plot by now. The sex work industry will pick back up but in the meantime time for those who are struggling to get enough work, it could be an idea to start other money making things that dont require personal contact, such as cam, chat and content. It wont make as much as escorting but it's better to be proactive than sit about all day worrying.
Really hope things pick up for everyone.
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It seems likely to start peaking in the next couple of weeks, and the fact is, regardless of how many people are infected, or how high (or low) the fatality rate is, people are probably quite rightly going to try and limit their exposure, especially if they have health conditions themselves or close contact with elderly relatives (and the elderly appear to be more vulnerable than children).
I agree with Veggiegal that the sensible course of action for anyone who currently escorts full-time, i.e. doesn't have another source of income, would be to set themselves up for camming, and at least try and do a few hours a day if no bookings come in?
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I'm pretty much with Linglau on this...hopefully it will soon burn itself out, change and pass.
Just like to say if you're work is effected by Cory, or personal sickness like any other self employed person you're entitled to Universal Bennies as Linglau says. Done this several times. Citizens Advice is my god.
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Work is dead for me now too, but cam is still going well. Plus the financial market has crashed, so I seem to be getting more pounds to the dollar atm. Not sure if this is a good thing longterm or not... :'(
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Work is dead for me now too, but cam is still going well. Plus the financial market has crashed, so I seem to be getting more pounds to the dollar atm. Not sure if this is a good thing longterm or not... :'(
Some people ( I know one ) are paid in dollars, convert to sterling = more ££ however all depends on the rate on the day they are paid which is only a few times each year.
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For anyone who is worried that you have coronavirus, remind them that sharing is caring. They'll share their money, you share your time and virus.
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Ok I told myself I wouldn't feed into it and just carry on as normal, but I must admit I am starting to wonder about the next few months.
I know they are completely different viruses but does anyone who worked during the Swine flu pandemic remember how business was?
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I’m in south west Swindon Bristol Bath all dead as a dodo surviving on one job a day at the moment. I’ve managed to pay enough rent and bills to cover me for a month off but after that who knows. It needs to hurry up and Fuck off. I’ve definitely seen a drop this week from 4/5 jobs a day down to 1.
Very worried about this and then three weeks Easter holidays stuck in the house with child no money. It’s very doom and gloom but let’s stick together girls we will weather this storm.
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Ok I told myself I wouldn't feed into it and just carry on as normal, but I must admit I am starting to wonder about the next few months.
I know they are completely different viruses but does anyone who worked during the Swine flu pandemic remember how business was?
Swine flu was absolutely fine, I think one client caught it (international traveller)...........that was all.
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I know they are completely different viruses but does anyone who worked during the Swine flu pandemic remember how business was?
I never got it, but a few posters here had swine flu I remember - the posts will be kicking about somewhere. Some of my regulars had it too and a handful had to rearrange, but apart from that I don't remember it being that different to normal. But there wasn't really the constant stream of press/Twatter/newsfeed stuff back in 2009, so it's slightly different :).
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But there wasn't really the constant stream of press/Twatter/newsfeed stuff back in 2009, so it's slightly different
Hmm good point. I just keep hearing pandemic this, recession that, economic depression and I’m like :-\
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I actually caught swine flu from a client, and lost three weeks of my life :'( Stuck in bed, sweating profusely, high fever, slept continuously. Wasn't pleasant at all, but I don't remember it affecting business up to when it took me out...
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:o Woah! I honestly barely remember it, that sounds awful didn’t realise it was so severe! Worst thing I caught was a stomach flu last year for 10 days or so. I looked like I was dying lol I cannot handle being ill. Don’t know how you coped for 3 weeks
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I remember the Swine flew period but i do not think it has had as much panic as with this new virus. Obviously being quiet a lot might think it is this affecting men buying sex but i think it is too soon to see whether it is really affecting it over all but i have had 2 clients cancel over it, 2 who was worried about kissing etc and only wanted very basic services and 1 client who never wanted me to touch him he wanted me to lay down and touch myself he kept a distance and relieved himself but that is only a very small amount being worried after all there is thousands who pay for sex.
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Dead in Sydney. I'm sure you've all seen the videos of toilet paper fight matches circulating. Crazy, I think I am going to come back home to the UK, enrol in uni for my second degree just to get student finance for survival as I don't have savings to last me very long
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Can’t say I’ve read a huge amount of this feed but would say the same. Only been doing this a year, so I don’t know the trends well enough. Regulars haven’t been put off, new business is a little down, but nothing to compare to unfortunately.
I can understand how this can worry some folk, especially the ability to earn.
I cant say if the lull is due to the virus outbreak or if still carrying on from Christmas; if I remember correctly things didnt really start moving again until March last year. My regulars certainly havent been put off and I have met a couple of new clients in this past month, but I also dont offer full service now so my business levels may be slightly lower that those who appeal to a larger market.
I did have one client try and cancel his booking concerned that if he caught coronavirus from me then he wouldn't have a good excuse for his wife as to where he got it 🙄 after I told him his deposit was non refundable anyway, he quickly realised he was being paranoid and daft, more to the point.
I'm not panicking over it, I'm not bulk buying toilet paper and thankfully dont use social media or else I would have lost the plot by now. The sex work industry will pick back up but in the meantime time for those who are struggling to get enough work, it could be an idea to start other money making things that dont require personal contact, such as cam, chat and content. It wont make as much as escorting but it's better to be proactive than sit about all day worrying.
Really hope things pick up for everyone.
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Ok I told myself I wouldn't feed into it and just carry on as normal, but I must admit I am starting to wonder about the next few months.
I know they are completely different viruses but does anyone who worked during the Swine flu pandemic remember how business was?
I wasn't working in this industry then (started a couple of months later), but I do know that I had swine flu, the "authorities" wanted me to have the Tamiflu antidote but I - cos I had swine flu! - couldn't get out to collect it and I couldn't get anyone to collect it for me...
AND It was the shortest flu I have ever had. 3 and a half days of being in bed with a fever and body aches. The Tamiflu would have apparently given me one half a day less than that. When my fever broke, I was just NORMAL! from then on, no convalescence etc. Yet at the time we were told how terrible this would be and how we MUST have the Tamiflu etc etc.
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As a general safeguard I am going to take vit c high strength 1 g daily when I take my morning daily meds and vitamins and supplements. Can't be too careful.
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Dead in Sydney. I'm sure you've all seen the videos of toilet paper fight matches circulating. Crazy, I think I am going to come back home to the UK, enrol in uni for my second degree just to get student finance for survival as I don't have savings to last me very long
Before you do that I would check whether you're entitled to the money. Uni's used to provide financial help for second degrees, but they've recently changed that to stop at the first degree.
You might be best just to sit tight and weather out the storm.
I've had a very quiet week but so far I've only had one very, very paranoid client.
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Before you do that I would check whether you're entitled to the money. Uni's used to provide financial help for second degrees, but they've recently changed that to stop at the first degree.
You might be best just to sit tight and weather out the storm.
I've had a very quiet week but so far I've only had one very, very paranoid client.
I had always been under the impression there was only help for the first degree.
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Dead in Sydney. I'm sure you've all seen the videos of toilet paper fight matches circulating. Crazy, I think I am going to come back home to the UK, enrol in uni for my second degree just to get student finance for survival as I don't have savings to last me very long
I’m in Sydney too studying but I’m going to ride it out as going back to the UK will cost so much with flights new work pad etc
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Before you do that I would check whether you're entitled to the money. Uni's used to provide financial help for second degrees, but they've recently changed that to stop at the first degree.
They do provide funding for a second degree only if it's in the healthcare/medical field, which is my field so I should be ok
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I’m in Sydney too studying but I’m going to ride it out as going back to the UK will cost so much with flights new work pad etc
Flights are so cheap right now. Only £200 from Sydney to Heathrow. Can we PM Kelly?
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Love sex dreams, wheir are you finding flights that cheap? ;)
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I am definitely starting to worry now... :'(
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Me too, we’re about to go into phase 2. The media really is freaking people out. I have a friend who finally admitted he had it after randomly going quiet, he said day 5 was horrible he was struggling to breath etc and it hurt but by day 7 much better and now he’s doing fine. And basically said not to worry. Even with the breathing and lung thing he described it as mild.
Thing is I’m not worried about getting it, more about the business side of it
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I’m also more worried about how this will continue to affect business
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I have a few bookings confirmed for today but with schools & nurseries closing in Ireland, if that happens in the UK now too, many of us with children will struggle to work. I know I won’t be able to if that happens.
I’m considering making today my final day for a while, I’m more concerned about potentially catching it and passing it on to my elderly parents.
If schools close here, that decision will have been made for me anyway.
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I think if its ramped up to stage 2 I'll stop escorting for a while.
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With a noticeable increase in time wasting calls/texts/emails over the last few days I am coming to the conclusion that because of the virus scare, some men are still horny (obviously!!) and want some kind of relief but dare not do a physical meeting (which they would normally arrange and turn up to complete) so are chancing their luck with a phone or email quick wank. They are so out of luck with me on that one but it is becoming more of a possibility that is what they are attempting.
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What's stage 2? :-\
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Lol I’ve had 2 Timewaster/cancellations today amid the possibility of phase 2 and Ireland’s lockdown.
Phase 2 - cancel mass public gatherings/events and closedown schools /universities.
On that note I hear China is apparently slowly going back to business as usual after their lockdown but need to continue reading up on it.
FFS :FF
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The dodgy and TW enquiries I've been receiving are historical TW, nothing to do with CoronaV.
Yes there's instability, yes plans are being affected however there also seems to be a bit of 'pre-holiday/pre-Christmas' type booking happening too.
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I’m just waiting for the “Uhhhh....you don’t have the Corona virus, do you?” after the booking’s been arranged, time set, I’ve given him the hotel 🏨info etc🤦🏼♀️.
“Sure do, but it’s business as usual!”
I swear to GOD, 1st guy that asks that?
Coughing all over him😡.
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I’m supposed to be touring Friday to Monday will it be okay?
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Just expect things to be very up and down work wise until we ride out the storm. I know hand washing on arrival and leaving will help a bit. I certainly will not be kissing any though with that being a higher risk is anyone else refusing that?
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If we end up with a lock down like in Italy then it will definitely affect business. Also people will be worse off by not earning money, or just getting statutory sick pay, businesses struggling etc
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I have never known business this quiet! Barely any work at all. I've dropped my rates and I'm really struggling to get by now.
And yes I've stopped the kissing too since yesterday.
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I have never known business this quiet! Barely any work at all. I've dropped my rates and I'm really struggling to get by now.
And yes I've stopped the kissing too since yesterday.
If you think it is Coronvirus making you quiet i doubt price dropping will do much plus clients could see the panic by doing that but obviously totally up to you with what you think is best.
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My last few weeks have been good .. not fantastic or as much as I would like but I’m comfortable. However I think from next week I either won’t work (I’m result scared of catching it) and save what I have for bills or just book hotels one day at a time - as I only Tour . I’m going to take off kissing and OWO- if clients don’t understand then they can just fuck off . I’m quite busy today thank god but after today I really think everything will go quiet until everyone stops being scared.
Good luck girls and let’s hope this blows over soon ! X
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Zara sounds like a good idea reducing services there is risks on those services even without Coronavirus so i wonder if any caught STI's with catching Corona Virus put certain people in a worst health situation, i would have thought so.
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Noticed a massive increase in time wasters as well.
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If you think it is Coronvirus making you quiet i doubt price dropping will do much plus clients could see the panic by doing that but obviously totally up to you with what you think is best.
I agree, dropping rates has never reversed slow business. Just encourages timewasters.
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I will be tempting fate here, but I am busy and not one of my clients has even mentioned it.
I like a good chat, but I suppose it isn't really sexy talk though :-\
I'm thrilled that the machines at my gym are the cleanest I have ever seen them (usually have to wipe away the last guy's person's hot sweat firstly.
Apart from that, no one here 'oop North seems bothered in the slightest.
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I'm in London and I'm v v v worried. Had all my bookings but one cancelled, all of them mentioning coronavirus :( if it carries on like this then I won't be able make my rent. Looking into camming but I can't go face out...maybe I can capitalise on balaclava fetishists?!
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There is more cases in London and it is over populated anywhere and tubes and trains will be a nightmare not surprised more men will think of the risks in London i suppose.
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There is more cases in London and it is over populated anywhere and tubes and trains will be a nightmare not surprised more men will think of the risks in London i suppose.
I'm in central London and companies have sent everyone to work from home, the only clients I got were the self employed working for themselves. The stores and off licences around me are empty. This morning felt like a sunday, no cars in the streets, so weird. My business has been reduced to a third of clients, but I'm hanging in there... My last client told me his company has sent all empoyees home and said to come back end of May. Worrying. What was the name of that British zombie movie "28 days later"? It feels a bit like that lol
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How are you all coping with this corona pandemic? , are any of the sex workers /escorts on here still working ?
escorts still escorting or have they stopped for now ?
i am increasingly concerned about where to draw the line
any response welcome
best wishes and health to all
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I'm in Central London too and it is dead, super dead. Absolutely nothing much at all except a few enquiries about incalls.
The hotel and gym was pretty dead too.
We are on the upswing, not the down too so who knows what will happen in the next couple of weeks.
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My last few weeks have been good .. not fantastic or as much as I would like but I’m comfortable. However I think from next week I either won’t work (I’m result scared of catching it) and save what I have for bills or just book hotels one day at a time - as I only Tour . I’m going to take off kissing and OWO- if clients don’t understand then they can just fuck off . I’m quite busy today thank god but after today I really think everything will go quiet until everyone stops being scared.
Good luck girls and let’s hope this blows over soon ! X
I think taking off kissing and OWO is a really good idea actually, although I reckon that'll put more people off and make them less inclined to visit. We can't win, can we? :-[
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No OWO kills business :(
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Yeah I’ve decided tomorrow will be the last day I work for the next 2-3 weeks.
Rather isolate than pay out to tour and it be dead.
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No OWO kills business :(
I’ve never offered OWO, I’m usually busy :)
(In fact have a few clients who see me specifically because all my services are protected - they feel less at risk of catching all these STI’s us WG’s have, apparently) ::)
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OWO vs OW will make no difference re. catching coronavirus.
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i think its terrifying
and i think the best way is to stop seeing people for a while
until this thing shows signs of retreating
always webcamming and phone chat
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I’m learning Coronavirus lasts on hard surfaces for 72 hours and less (nobody knows how much less) time on bank notes.
I’ll be mindful to wash hands after handling cash.
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Yes exactly I booked hotels 2 weeks running and lost the money didn’t even make the money back on hotels it’s hopeless
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OWO vs OW will make no difference re. catching coronavirus.
You are right but risking STI and catching Coronavirus could be a big problem maybe especially for some maybe with weakened immune systems.
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i think its terrifying
and i think the best way is to stop seeing people for a while
until this thing shows signs of retreating
always webcamming and phone chat
100% agree.
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Kay from what I've read, the medical experts don't know yet if you can catch it via semen? My thinking is if you can catch it by inhaling cough droplets from someone who's infected, there's a chance?
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Catching an STI at anytime is a concern, Covid or not.
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Back to thread. I'm expecting it to be quiet today. Especially with today's date.
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OWO vs OW will make no difference re. catching coronavirus.
True ...I'm just carrying on working you can catch it without kissing or oral sex anyway . If someone does turn up coughing and has breathing difficulty with temperature they can go .
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I have noticed an increase in my video and private gallery sales today, time to create some online content girls.
I keep hearing May. By May things will have begun to settle. Get as much credit on AW account through videos & private galleries then use that for heavy advertising for May & June. There’ll be a lot of sexually frustrated men ;D
May/June is when "they" expect the numbers of infected to peak (be at it's highest), so it will be a few more months after that before it even gets back to the level that it's currently at.
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Yeah I’ve decided tomorrow will be the last day I work for the next 2-3 weeks.
Rather isolate than pay out to tour and it be dead.
The peak (highest number of infections) isn't predicted to hit until May/June, so if you self isolate now for just 2/3 weeks, you'll be coming back still in the midst of climbing infection rates.
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The peak (highest number of infections) isn't predicted to hit until May/June, so if you self isolate now for just 2/3 weeks, you'll be coming back still in the midst of climbing infection rates.
Whatever action taken needs to be sustainable, only my opinion but based on life experiences.
So easy to panic.
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The peak (highest number of infections) isn't predicted to hit until May/June, so if you self isolate now for just 2/3 weeks, you'll be coming back still in the midst of climbing infection rates.
Can i have the source of that information_ Hope itąs not from the news ::)
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I’m really worried about the corona virus, work has been so quiet and I’m also scared of catching it myself. I haven’t even been saving and I have rent to pay I’m scared it’s going to affect work so much that I’ll literally get no clients which means no income and can’t afford my rent 😭 does anyone have any other ideas on how to make money? I live in Birmingham and this is where I work I’m thinking to do webcam but dunno where to start? How’s everyone else getting on with work and this virus going around
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The peak (highest number of infections) isn't predicted to hit until May/June, so if you self isolate now for just 2/3 weeks, you'll be coming back still in the midst of climbing infection rates.
I’m taking time off for medical reasons so will just see how it goes.
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London and Heathrow are dead so I’ll be going home for
A few months now. Be interesting to see how this affects the industry as a whole. I was even thinking about going back to a civi job and doing this as a side thing in the future. I get fed up with the stress of it being the main earn. This isn’t a joke when you have kids to feed and entertain on Easter holidays.
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Kay from what I've read, the medical experts don't know yet if you can catch it via semen? My thinking is if you can catch it by inhaling cough droplets from someone who's infected, there's a chance?
I wouldn't have thought semen was a major risk, but also OWO does not always equal CIM (I do the former but never the latter). I just meant you're far more likely to get it from kissing or being in close proximity to an infected man.
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We just need to sanitize our apartments and get our men to wash their hands and sanitize. Could go a step further and have them put their clothes in a bag you destroy once they have gone.
I have one regular booked in later but yep, quiet.
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For anyone who's really concerned but still wants to work, the best thing would be to check all clients with a thermometer (obviously not an under the tongue one). If their temperature is over about 37.2 C, no booking.
I'd also advise everyone to have at least 24 tablets of each ibuprofen and paracetamol in the house, in case you do get it, as keeping your temperature down will be important.
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Can i have the source of that information_ Hope itąs not from the news ::)
I watched Professor Chris Whitty yesterday saying the peak is most likely 10 to 14 weeks away and then I did the maths.
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I’m really worried about the corona virus, work has been so quiet and I’m also scared of catching it myself. I haven’t even been saving and I have rent to pay I’m scared it’s going to affect work so much that I’ll literally get no clients which means no income and can’t afford my rent 😭 does anyone have any other ideas on how to make money? I live in Birmingham and this is where I work I’m thinking to do webcam but dunno where to start? How’s everyone else getting on with work and this virus going around
Hi Megan
There is a thread about webcamming on this forum. You can certainly try camming if you feel work is affected.
However, because the global economy is taking a hit (cam clients are more careful with spending), new girls on cam might not be making much money right now.
Have you thought about applying for Universal credit online? Have some items you can sell quickly on Ebay?
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For those who are thinking of touring or want to check the local area there is a gov dashboard that shows the impact. I’m using the desktop version on my phone and it shows the area, plus infections vs residents.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-track-coronavirus-cases
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Hope it's ok to start this thread as there's another CV one on the go but not to do with my title here.
I'm concerned about CV and these are the things I'm doing to lessen the chances of catching it. (And as far as I'm aware, if you are fit and healthy, your chances of beating it are high.)
Clients have to wash their hands before touching anything in my apartment. No shared towels, they dry their hands on kitchen roll.
I'm now going to be asking them to put their clothes on a plastic sheet and not scattered around willy nilly.
I'll be using Dettol wipes to wipe that sheet down after use.
OWO is at my discretion but I'm stopping that for now.
No kissing my face.
I'm regularly wiping things down with Dettol wipes (on the back it says they kill CV).
I'm going to trial a wipe down bed sheet. If that doesn't work, I have some disposable massage sheets.
Hope I don't sound alarmist but we all have a responsibility to keep ourselves and others safe.
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One thread per subject will be fine :)
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The clients who’ve seen me are more upset about the fact they can’t go to Spain or wherever for half term with the kids lol. They aren’t really bothered about the virus itself ...
Maybe that's good news for all of us after all and we might have a busy half term? Who knows ;D
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We just need to sanitize our apartments and get our men to wash their hands and sanitize. Could go a step further and have them put their clothes in a bag you destroy once they have gone.
I have one regular booked in later but yep, quiet.
Oops I read that all wrong... ;D
I'm hoping a client will give it to me so I generate antibodies. So will now offer french kissing and face licking. Joking
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No wonder sex workers get a bad name when it comes to this sort of thing. It's all about the money apparently.
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No wonder sex workers get a bad name when it comes to this sort of thing. It's all about the money apparently.
You're lucky to have a fix check at the end of the month (assuming), unfortunately I'm part of all the greedy self employed who are freaking out at the moment because three months of pandemic will send me to financial ruin. I would love to be able to quit for a few months but I can't afford it. Unfortunately council tax, landlord, energy bills and mortgage don't care about pandemics, so I have to continue working, but it seems I'm the bad one. It's not a matter of "sex workers are bad", it's a matter of "self employed have to survive". I'm priviledged to be single and childfree, but yesterday I had a self employed client with three kids who was having a full blown panic attack because he has three kids to feed. Like me he's going to his office too *despite of*
Sex workers are stigmatized and frown upon enough already by society, we really don't need more of that by our own , thank you.
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One moment. Don't accuse me of something I haven't said. I haven't said don't work. I'm continuing myself.
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Will anyone still be touring? I’m going to carry on working (because I have bills to pay and I can’t afford to take months off work) but I’m wondering if I should stay close to home or if I should tour
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One moment. Don't accuse me of something I haven't said. I haven't said don't work. I'm continuing myself.
So why are we getting a bad name? For wanting to continue working and pay our bills?
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Nope. My last post on this now. Of course we carry on working but we also in my view have to take precautions due to this CV.
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Nope. My last post on this now. Of course we carry on working but we also in my view have to take precautions due to this CV.
Nobody here is saying we don't need to take precautions Amy, of course we have to!
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I worked yesterday i was new to the area it was quiet but made profit after hotel and travel thank god.
Im not sure if i will be touring to london as my costs are high and don't want to risk being out of pocket atm.
Im going to get back into web camming to again cos i have no out goings as such and only working close to home.
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No wonder sex workers get a bad name when it comes to this sort of thing. It's all about the money apparently.
Interesting comment. Yes indeed, historically sex workers have been blamed and abused for 'this sort of thing'. It's called a witch hunt. Nothing new.
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I was lucky Thursday I did two one hours which are a current discount as a sweetener over the winter. One returnee and one new client. I took the rest of the week off but I did have a handful of what sounded like genuine enquiries both email and by text. Friday even though I wasn't working I kept my 'phone on in the morning and a returnee tried to ring.
I needed some time off but next week I will work the usual 3/4 days It did seem a lot quieter Thursday though i.e. not even timewasters were bothering me!
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People are stupid.
1000% this and i add sheep!
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i m positive by nature but realistic. the panic even unrealistic is going to affect everyone. not just our business. many even are not worried about the virus, going to be worried for the financial crisis.
many events are cancelled, business trip, restriction to travel, estate agent, hotels, ....
in my other job is highly affected too
even in uk is not as in Europe people absorb the panic regardless...
now i got some job interview and i am not sure if i will take it because it is self employed based.
maybe i will not attend too, lol i went for several lately and the potential outcome are really low expectations anyway.
i do not think that will be a long things, really hope so but i was surprised that some events on may was cancelled due to it. may is far lol
i am doing cam anyway which do not give me enough to live...
and maybe can go down a bit too due to the general panic.
i mean anyway everything pass, the only thing that i am doing is do not give a fuck...to be a bit gross. do not overthink to it, live everyday happy because we still in life.
i do not know about tour, i do not like anyway but i do think it is not the moment to invest in it.
even to have strict contact with somebody. i will meet a regular today that it is a friend now so i even do not have sex with him but i will get paid in some way.
say to not panic, yes but being honest you panic anyway more for the money that virus, sadly but yes... if you are kind healthy the virus will go away.
money are a mare! lol crazy to say but yes we think sometimes more to them than health
i slept well anyway tonight...but deeply worried and lot of negative vibes around it
freaking me out! specially the sheep, media and the over panic!
so to end my post, go out enjoy your day and make of it the most you can lol
everything pass! cheers :)
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If you think it is Coronvirus making you quiet i doubt price dropping will do much plus clients could see the panic by doing that but obviously totally up to you with what you think is best.
I have to agree. price dropping has never helped me. when its quiet its quiet don't think price has anything to do with it
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No wonder sex workers get a bad name when it comes to this sort of thing. It's all about the money apparently.
it is all about the money when it’s your job and means of living ...
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Morning all yes work will never be the same we just need to be more careful and take precautions.
One thing here in the UK we can still work and it’s up to each and every individual if they want to carry on or stop working.In Germany the government has put a stop to whoring. People there have got no choice. I have a cousin she confirmed it to me so there you go. So let’s just stay calm and carry on. Good luck to everyone 💋
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Imagine that... a job.. being about the money... whoa.
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The thread has moved on, folks. Keep up, please.
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I’ve been on tour in Bristol and still been busy.
There aren’t many precautions you can take, if a client has corona - they will probably pass it on to you, no matter how clean you both are and even if you don’t kiss as it’s an airborne virus - you only need to be within 2 metres of them.
Also there’s lots of cases where people with the virus have had no symptoms at all, have felt fine and have tested positive.
From a sales point of view - don’t mention Coronavirus on your profile, it’ll only stop people from coming to you. We all know about it, guys don’t need reminding and I very highly doubt a guy will come and see you if he’s feeling unwell.
The only few suggestions i’d make would be to shower throughly after every booking (which I hope you do anyway) brush teeth and use alcohol mouthwash - gargle it. Also burn sage once a day in the room you are working from, it kills 94% of airborne bacteria and cleanses the room for up to 24 hours.
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I do like your suggestions Glowstick but as I am outcall only, I have no chance with the Sage but I am going to do what I can. My bookings are down to like one a week at the moment, really rough and I think the punters are beginning to catch on that we are struggling, I have had one haggler already trying me today and I think more will come.
I am not having that just on principle though.
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I do like your suggestions Glowstick but as I am outcall only, I have no chance with the Sage but I am going to do what I can. My bookings are down to like one a week at the moment, really rough and I think the punters are beginning to catch on that we are struggling, I have had one haggler already trying me today and I think more will come.
I am not having that just on principle though.
I'm similar not down to one per week, and still as good as an average week but definitely fewer enquiries. However it can be normal for me to not receive phone calls or emails for a few days. I am more exposed to the 15 minute / see me out of hours / drunk-or-drugged / last minute / waiive deposit requests but as far as I see it more clients ups my risk, so I will be sticking to my rules and rates. If I miss out I miss out and spend that time researching for another form of income.
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I received a lovely message from a client - wishing me to keep safe during the outbreak.
Nice chap! :)
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I have not done too bad considering. I have also had more wanting outcall this week but next week might be totally different depends where you are and what clients are about.
I do think major cities like London will suffer more at the moment as a lot have been like ghost towns and in rush hour.
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Luckily things have picked up for me now. The problem is that there are probably thousands who have it with no symptoms and we still need to get on with our lives. Keep positive and have no fear. As long as we take precautions. The good thing to come out of this is that everyone is focused on hygiene which is a good thing.
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Sadly every shop has run out of hand sanitizer etc :FF
Shall make my way to the alcohol section and buy pure stuff to clean my surfaces :)
Plus have a drink or two that might kill a few foreign bodies inside me that are lurking !
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My maths isn’t great but out of a population of 60 million in the UK only around 0.00001% of the population have known cases of coronavirus at the moment
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Please note that the virus isn’t airborne it’s from skin to skin contact
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Please note that the virus isn’t airborne it’s from skin to skin contact
I'm no expert but I thought it was if someone coughed or sneezed near you? God help them if they do...
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Please note that the virus isn’t airborne it’s from skin to skin contact
Great news!
Why don't you publish your findings in The Lancet, VenusStar193?
Surely they would be grateful for this contribution as it contradicts the articles they have published so far.
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Please note that the virus isn’t airborne it’s from skin to skin contact
Why are people stopping kissing then? You don't think men touch their todger, thighs, chest and anyone else you will touch and they will touch you? There really is no way to avoid a skin to skin communicable virus if that was the case.
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Corona can stays"live" in air up to 3 hours, it is now said.
If it's in the "air", what difference would it make to keep washing "surfaces"
after each punter left the room.
Masks make no difference so why people buying and wearing it??
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Great news!
Why don't you publish your findings in The Lancet, VenusStar193?
I'm quietly impressed (and slightly envious) of anybody who has managed to so wholly and completely avoid every single available source of news and information for what must be the best part of a month. I'd also suggest that there may be a place for our Venus in the White House :).
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Please note that the virus isn’t airborne it’s from skin to skin contact
Venus, you really need to read, comprehend and digest news from reliable sources! It's spread just like colds and flu: aerosols from sneezing, coughing etc. and can survive on surfaces for a while.
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Venus, you really need to read, comprehend and digest news from reliable sources! It's spread just like colds and flu: aerosols from sneezing, coughing etc. and can survive on surfaces for a while.
Not the first person I've heard believe that the hand thing is the 'catching' bit.
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Will anyone still be touring? I’m going to carry on working (because I have bills to pay and I can’t afford to take months off work) but I’m wondering if I should stay close to home or if I should tour
No because I’ve been all around the country averaging 2 jobs a day rather than 6. I have taken to working local to where I live which is rubbish cause it’s south West. But I would rather not have the hotel costs for now. I am subsidising by working on 3 diff cam sights and selling lingerie on Aw and advertising Skype shows. Then if you still don’t have enough for rent and bills you go and get working tax credit top ups. The government is very aware of self employment being hit and have measures to help us through this year.
This last tour I did last week was the worst ever and it was affecting my anxiety. Plus I have elderly relatives to think of I’m in a real state worrying about it all.
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The government is very aware of self employment being hit and have measures to help us through this year.
As in how? Would you mind elaborating?
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No because I’ve been all around the country averaging 2 jobs a day rather than 6. I have taken to working local to where I live which is rubbish cause it’s south West. But I would rather not have the hotel costs for now. I am subsidising by working on 3 diff cam sights and selling lingerie on Aw and advertising Skype shows. Then if you still don’t have enough for rent and bills you go and get working tax credit top ups. The government is very aware of self employment being hit and have measures to help us through this year.
This last tour I did last week was the worst ever and it was affecting my anxiety. Plus I have elderly relatives to think of I’m in a real state worrying about it all.
I started to look into Skype, noticed they don't allow pornography or have I read it wrong?
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I’ve been advised to self isolate until next Thursday so I imagine my bookings are going to be dreadful, on account of me not being able to see anyone. Nightmare. I was hoping to try and get a good few in before it really hits the fan!
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I started to look into Skype, noticed they don't allow pornography or have I read it wrong?
You're correct. They don't. That doesn't stop people using it for that though! Just be careful regarding profile wording and photo etc.
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I’ve been advised to self isolate until next Thursday so I imagine my bookings are going to be dreadful, on account of me not being able to see anyone. Nightmare. I was hoping to try and get a good few in before it really hits the fan!
Just a few days? The current government advice is 2 weeks.
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Just a few days? The current government advice is 2 weeks.
If symptomatic 7 days is the current advice.
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No because I’ve been all around the country averaging 2 jobs a day rather than 6. I have taken to working local to where I live which is rubbish cause it’s south West. But I would rather not have the hotel costs for now. I am subsidising by working on 3 diff cam sights and selling lingerie on Aw and advertising Skype shows. Then if you still don’t have enough for rent and bills you go and get working tax credit top ups. The government is very aware of self employment being hit and have measures to help us through this year.
This last tour I did last week was the worst ever and it was affecting my anxiety. Plus I have elderly relatives to think of I’m in a real state worrying about it all.
tax credit is something that should be done by my accountant?
i was refused for universal credit because of my low income and want that i am a job seeker
which finally i do not think i am, right now i do not think even to get a job with corona panic attack
already difficult to get it in normal condition anyway
thank you
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Is anyone lowering their rates or thinking about dropping their rates under the current circumstances?
From reading the "slow at the minute" thread I have noticed some ladies haven't noticed a drop in clients yet but if you do notice a drop, would you?
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One thread per subject, please :)
Anybody can change their rates to whatever they like, but I can't see what this has to do with it? If a punter is that worried about being ill, are they suddenly going to be less worried because they'll save twenty quid? Meanwhile, getting less money for doing the same amount of work if things are tight doesn't sound like the way forward to me.
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Is anyone lowering their rates or thinking about dropping their rates under the current circumstances?
An alternative idea for those who decided to keep working could be raising the rates and calling it a 'biohazard tax'.
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Is anyone lowering their rates or thinking about dropping their rates under the current circumstances?
From reading the "slow at the minute" thread I have noticed some ladies haven't noticed a drop in clients yet but if you do notice a drop, would you?
No no no if there not coming because of CV that is not going to help and looks desperate. That is the last thing i would do but that is just my view.
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An alternative idea for those who decided to keep working could be raising the rates and calling it a 'biohazard tax'.
Well as far as I'm concerned, danger money for potential illness is and has always been included in my rates. As far as I'm aware, every single other health condition that can possibly be caught from other people via intimate contact or otherwise hasn't magically been eradicated overnight, although anybody using the crapper news sources would be forgiven for thinking it had ::)
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Just watch the change in the next week or so with what the government will do then the decision will be taken away from us.
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Well as far as I'm concerned, danger money for potential illness is and has always been included in my rates. As far as I'm aware, every single other health condition that can possibly be caught from other people via intimate contact or otherwise hasn't magically been eradicated overnight, although anybody using the crapper news sources would be forgiven for thinking it had ::)
True for those that offer risky services anything unprotected. OWO, unprotected intercourse, Rimming are already taking a risk with there health even before the Coronavirus popped up.
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This is why I need this forum!! ;D... My question seemed perfectly reasonable in my own head intially, thanks for knocking some sense into me ;D Silly question really haha.
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True for those that offer risky services anything unprotected. OWO, unprotected intercourse, Rimming are already taking a risk with there health even before the Coronavirus popped up.
No, true for everybody. I give you herpes, genital warts, shingles, scabies, TB, chicken pox, measles, mumps, yellow fever, rubella, ringworm, diptheria, staphylococcus and good old fashioned colds. Shall I go on?
Edited to add glandular fever, because not only have I had it and it was fucking horrible, but I know at least two sex workers who caught it from punters.
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No, true for everybody. I give you herpes, genital warts, shingles, scabies, TB, chicken pox, measles, mumps, yellow fever, rubella, ringworm, diptheria, staphylococcus and good old fashioned colds. Shall I go on?
Yes i get that but i have never caught any of those things apart from colds which anyone can get anywhere. I thought your post was actually more referring to STI's. But yes there is other things to catch i know a few that have caught crabs too.
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If I don’t continue working through this virus shit then guess who’s not eating through this virus shit? ... guess who’s getting on the very wrong side of her landlord? ... guess who’s going to end up in debt from not being able to pay their car insurance, council tax, bills? ... guess who’ll be living in darkness due to having no electric?
Yep, hi!
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I do think the crisis will be over by the end of June. And the panic. Just read since CV was first detected ten times more people have died from flu. I'm slightly less panicked now but still concerned.
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If people are self isolating like in some countries I’m worried we won’t be able to work soon. In Amsterdam cafes etc are closing
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If symptomatic 7 days is the current advice.
Ah. The situ and advice is moving so fast it's difficult to keep up! And I watch all the press conferences as well /slaps head
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Ah. The situ and advice is moving so fast it's difficult to keep up! And I watch all the press conferences as well /slaps head
I tend to keep to the BBC Website, sometimes local press sites but interestingly enough a few of those all went down for a day after starting a live coverage feed on CV-19. They are known to be a bit slow, this and the attention must have tipped them over the edge.
Also NHS website too.
For an entire day their 111 line was giving out-dated information for travellers returning from Italy.
I think the idea is that it takes up to 5-14 days to become symptomatic, another 7 days to get over it - so no symptoms but contact including travel to certain areas requires that initial week. Symptomatic you've gotten that out of the way.
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I do think the crisis will be over by the end of June. And the panic. Just read since CV was first detected ten times more people have died from flu. I'm slightly less panicked now but still concerned.
Exactly, it’s more about the fear of CV as it’s a new illness, rather than the reality. The same groups who are vulnerable to flu will be vulnerable to this.
As for clients. I’m asking all of them to shower on arrival, or if they’ve showered very recently to wash hands thoroughly. They’ve all been fine with this. If anyone refuses or turns up obviously unwell I plan to turn them away.
I refuse to panic about this, just take what precautions I can and be sensible about things.
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If I don’t continue working through this virus shit then guess who’s not eating through this virus shit? ... guess who’s getting on the very wrong side of her landlord? ... guess who’s going to end up in debt from not being able to pay their car insurance, council tax, bills? ... guess who’ll be living in darkness due to having no electric?
Yep, hi!
Right exactly this.. I had 2 yrs of ill health, lost all my savings, so unless things get horrendous I will be continuing, taking appropriate precautions of course.
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TheLastTime I think that's sensible. I'm asking them to wash their hands (and get between those fingers) and also telling them if they feel a sneeze or a cough coming on, to use tissues provided. I'd like to give them face masks but maybe that's a bit too much.
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I too have been insisting on handwashing but i have noticed some trying to just sprinkle water over there hands and not actually properly wash them but if there like that with there cock and arsehole which a lot are not good at cleaning themselves ( had somebody recent have a shower and his arse stunk and noticed shit stains on the towel and i told him too and his response was oh sorry i must have forgotten to wipe my bum when i did a shit. Disgusting) no surprise they can be like it with hand washing.
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No wonder this thing is spreading so fast. You'd think general hygiene is common knowledge amongst everyone (especially with all the advice going round at the moment!!!) this job opens your eyes to a lot!
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This current situation (Cvirus) has brought out some of the dubious men who email questions like this to me -
"I guess you will be feeling the pinch and quite desparate for work so will you consider a good discount for me today?"
He is still waiting for his reply.
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This current situation (Cvirus) has brought out some of the dubious men who email questions like this to me -
"I guess you will be feeling the pinch and quite desparate for work so will you consider a good discount for me today?"
He is still waiting for his reply.
Jesus if i get anything like that he will be told actually the price has just gone up for you and staying up for the near future. Absolute Cretins!
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Jesus if i get anything like that he will be told actually the price has just gone up for you and staying up for the near future. Absolute Cretins!
What an idiot ..where do these men come from clueless
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"I guess you will be feeling the pinch and quite desparate for work so will you consider a good discount for me today?"
Words of a true predator. I'm always grateful when "bad apples" show their true colours on my phone screen, so much better/safer than them showing their true colours in person...
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People are really taking the p*ss right now. I've actually turned off the escorting option on my Adultwork, because I'm bored of people trying to get discounted rates.
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People are really taking the p*ss right now. I've actually turned off the escorting option on my Adultwork, because I'm bored of people trying to get discounted rates.
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On the other hand I haven't heard of other lines of self employment where customers are predating on, I mean... I have my plumber coming on Wednesday to fix my sink and I wouldn't dream of asking him for a discount or telling him that "now that you're here would you mind fixing my lightbulbs too for the same price because you must be so happy I called you"
There some scary people out there is all I have to say.
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It is absolutely predatory. I can't stand men who think they can negotiate usually, but now there are many who are taking complete advantage. It says alot about them as people.
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This current situation (Cvirus) has brought out some of the dubious men who email questions like this to me -
"I guess you will be feeling the pinch and quite desparate for work so will you consider a good discount for me today?"
He is still waiting for his reply.
That is exactly what I said yesterday.
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I've seen three regulars today. I told one I was expecting it to be quiet and he said I'd probably be busier now more men were working from home so it might ght be the same for all of us.
In my county there are 9 (that we know of) cases of CV with a population of 750,000. So I think if we are careful things might pick up. Unless today is a blip for me.
I might put my prices up seeing the amount of kitchen roll and anti bac wipes etc I'm having to buy now. 🤔😁
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I've seen three regulars today. I told one I was expecting it to be quiet and he said I'd probably be busier now more men were working from home so it might ght be the same for all of us.
I'm fully booked today too (weird). There's toilet paper and anti-bacterial lotion in my closet for a regiment ;D
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How do we all feel about the work at the moment? One of my regulars works in Canary Wharf, and I'm actually kinda worried about him coming to see me tonight in the UK. I feel stupid for being anxious about it too... :FF
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I'm actually busier, maybe the mentality up North is more relaxed. Think people are just wanting to get it so they can have 2 weeks off work ;D
Had 3 bookings so far and 3 booked in this evening.
My mentality is we're probably all going to get it eventually, I'd rather get it now than when the second stronger wave of it hits (my guess would be winter next year) because our immune system will be built up more to defend any future attacks. Just google the spanish flu of 1918, the first strain was weaker than the next but we've all had it - it's just the common flu now and its killed way more than the coronavirus, yet we're not panicking about that.
Plus if anything ..sex is another way of building up your immune system - I have to say sleeping with multiple men over the past 4 years, I've only been ill once and before escorting I seemed to be ill all the time... well it's a good excuse anyway ;)
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I have been surprisingly busy too today
I best keep going as I have no idea what's going to happen next !
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This situation will bring the worst out of some people.
Of course, every crisis brings out the opportunists. Just look at the price gougers
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Not stopping yet, CERTAINLY not lowering my prices. But will probably stop around this coming weekend.
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How do we all feel about the work at the moment? One of my regulars works in Canary Wharf, and I'm actually kinda worried about him coming to see me tonight in the UK. I feel stupid for being anxious about it too... :FF
I’m not taking bookings for a few days and keeping an eye on the news.
I’ve developed the dreaded thrush anyway ::)
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I'm actually busier, maybe the mentality up North is more relaxed. Think people are just wanting to get it so they can have 2 weeks off work ;D
Had 3 bookings so far and 3 booked in this evening.
My mentality is we're probably all going to get it eventually, I'd rather get it now than when the second stronger wave of it hits (my guess would be winter next year) because our immune system will be built up more to defend any future attacks. Just google the spanish flu of 1918, the first strain was weaker than the next but we've all had it - it's just the common flu now and its killed way more than the coronavirus, yet we're not panicking about that.
Plus if anything ..sex is another way of building up your immune system - I have to say sleeping with multiple men over the past 4 years, I've only been ill once and before escorting I seemed to be ill all the time... well it's a good excuse anyway ;)
Busier because a lots of ladies are not working. You may be just the only one girl in your town. Good luck to everyone and keep strong.
I have mortgage savings and not working. I have no plans to work.
Keep safe xx
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I noticed today on AW local search, there was only 1 and a half pages of ladies where as usually it’s 3.
I was quiet, only two bookings so I’ve decided to not work now for a little while and see how things progress.
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Well lockdown if officially starting up like i knew it would this week. If anybody seen Boris Johnson talks today.
Question is what is everyone doing risking working or taking advice and stopping for now?
Boris made it clear he wants people to do what he says he doesn't want to start enforcing it by punishment or police yet?
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Well lockdown if officially starting up like i knew it would this week. If anybody seen Boris Johnson talks today.
Question is what is everyone doing risking working or taking advice and stopping for now?
Boris made it clear he wants people to do what he says he doesn't want to start enforcing it by punishment or police yet?
I’m with you EG.
At this moment not interested how corona can affect my business but worried about those who are vunerable.
Also doing xyz bookings a day is silly. I have offered my 78 yearl old Reg to bring his weekly shopping and hoping for the best.
Anyone who is working...good luck and keep safe x
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Just thinking are hotels going to close?
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Just thinking are hotels going to close?
Some might but some have been contacted about being used as temporary hospital beds for treatment if needed.
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Well lockdown if officially starting up like i knew it would this week. If anybody seen Boris Johnson talks today.
You believed it would, you didn't know it would (and nor did anybody else).
The speech I saw 'advised' that some groups of people take some actions and 'suggested' that other groups took others - businesses and schools are still open and it would be enormously helpful if you could stop making it sound like martial law has been declared. There are people here who for whatever reason are going to find the least-brief press briefing in history difficult to make sense of as it is.
I've tidied this thread of off topic posts once already today, and I'm getting fairly fed up of it. There are general discussion boards all over the internet and I doubt there is a dearth of posts on the topic; I'm not locking this one for those concerned members who need advice and support, so from now on anybody making posts unrelated to sex work will find themselves on premod with immediate effect.
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Just thinking are hotels going to close?
I did receive an email from dayuse cancelling my booking for this week (they beat me to it tbh lol) but then a couple hours later they retracted the email and said I still had a reservation.
So I think a lot of hotels/businesses don’t really know they the hell to do. But yes I’ll be cancelling that.
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Question is what is everyone doing risking working or taking advice and stopping for now?
I'm going to play it by ear.
There's a regular who lives down the road, he's more concerned about neighbours seeing me than this coronavirus. I'll be seeing him tomorrow.
Tonight I've cancelled a booking because he asked for bareback last minute(don't know if this extra boundary pushing is due to coronavirus)
I've stopped seeing a 70 year old client because he has several underlying health issues. I'm not showing any symptoms of the virus but can't rule out I'm an asymptomatic carrier.
In my bag, I carry antiseptic wipes, hand gel, throat lozenges and disposable gloves Will reduce working hours (camming too) to give my body more rest =better immunity.
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I was intending on taking a decent sized break this year anyway, although it was to go travelling.. so even though I’ll be doing the exact opposite of travelling, I’m just thinking of it as I’m just taking the time I was intending to have off anyway.
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Whatever is happening I'm not involved wondering how adultwork website owner? Are they going to realise we have gone and web ladies won't give them enough source of income?
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Whatever is happening I'm not involved wondering how adultwork website owner? Are they going to realise we have gone and web ladies won't give them enough source of income?
AW sent an email out containing information on moving to online services.
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AW sent an email out containing information on moving to online services.
Yep, I got the email too. It started with something in the lines of "due to the decline of bookings we're trying to promote webcam etc..".
Another smarty pants taking advantage of the current situation.
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Yep, I got the email too. It started with something in the lines of "due to the decline of bookings we're trying to promote webcam etc..".
Another smarty pants taking advantage of the current situation.
I didn't mind it it's something I am making moves to do, and any help will be appreciated.
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I am doing outcalls only until now. But because of this corona crisis I am very slow. Does it make sense to offer incalls instead of outcalls? I am a bit nervous because of my privacy and neighbours.
What are your thoughts? Do you are working as an Escort and thinking about offering incalls too or are there any other possibilities?
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Regardless of it being an in or outcall then the risks are all the same, face to face meetings are happening and this is the issue, plus Boris did day work from home if you can and we must listen to the PM!! Lol
I am going to take kissing right off of the menu and infact may just offer 15 min oral appointments for the foreseeable, I don’t really fancy getting oral sex because you never know if the man has any mild symptoms or not, I know that I don’t have any and I haven’t been around anyone in the past few days but knowing how desperate some of these men are for sexual stuff etc then I don’t trust a word they say, it’s unfortunate but true.
To all the escorts that are with AW, did you all get the email from them last night about doing other forms of sex work?
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Certain posts on this thread have made me feel really guilty and worried about continuing, I always try to have a positive outlook on things and not let things worry me or get me down but this all has so I won't be escorting for a while and maybe never again, the thing is I gave up my career a while ago to concentrate on my little online business and escorting has always been there to back me up as in I always knew I could do a couple of days touring here and there if I needed to if things were a bit quiet with my business, so now I am probably completely fucked, I don't really care about me getting it as I am fit and healthy BUT I'm now worried if I see clients and pass it from one to another without knowing it could have a knock on affect if they pass it on to vulnerable people around them. Sorry for the long winded post guys but basically I feel to guilty now to escort :(.
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I'm continuing to work very low volume and just my regulars. I was thinking about offering a no contact service where they can sit away from me while I put on a show. I don't think you should feel guilty. I'm toning it down but right now, I'm not stopping.
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It‘a not a bad thing that we continue to escort, some of us have literally no choice but to escort as otherwise we would lose our homes and we would starve, I have no savings and lots of us don’t, plus some of us have kids so what can we do but work.
I think we just have to minimise the risks as much as possible and that’s all we can do, I sure can it sit at home for the next few months and do nothing, I will go stir crazy if this was to happen.
If your not in the vulnerable group and risks are minimised then I think, and pray, that we will be okay.
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I would work but diversifying. I did a phone session and trying to promote some cam work. I am looking into some adult cleaning work. Faffing about doing some light cleaning whilst a bloke wanks on the sofa might not be as lucrative but it is something. I have only two future bookings and those are from travellers, chances are they won't come so I need to be able to keep my head above water financially.
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I normally do outcalls but had booked some incalls to try.
Last week wasn’t great however this morning it’s been quite busy. Just waiting on 1st booking 30 mins, then 1 hour and a 2 hour.
I work full time too but just been told if schools shut I can only take unpaid leave or annual leave with is difficult as I’m trying to save for my son’s operation if it goes ahead.
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I wasn’t sure what to do about working (I only escort one day a week) but coming here think I’ll not bother working. I’m working from home in my normal job so I can carry on with that. Doesn’t look like I’ll be missing many bookings. With more people working from home, fewer excuses for their wives!
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I think if you're sensible there's no need to feel guilt. If a client comes for a booking, he's making an adult decision for himself. I'm taking my temperature regularly and obviously wouldn't work if it went up or I developed a cough. I've been on a break anyway, and haven't done any bookings since Christmas, but I have had a few enquiries and would do one if the client passed my screening and I had the time.
One of my (many, conflicted) views is that a lot of us are going to get it at some point, and it might as well be from a booking as opposed to being on a bus or train with someone infected.
It boils down to applying common sense for me.
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I’m not going to escort for 3 months I think. I have enough savings to take the time off but once those 3 months are up I’ll be out of money and needing to desperately work again. I pray things get a bit better by then for us all
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To all the escorts that are with AW, did you all get the email from them last night about doing other forms of sex work?
I haven't received anything. Would be interesting to see if they are contacting only green available lights girls or everyone gets their email at some point.
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I haven't received anything. Would be interesting to see if they are contacting only green available lights girls or everyone gets their email at some point.
I got it and i didnt have my green light on, havent for a week x
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I haven't received anything. Would be interesting to see if they are contacting only green available lights girls or everyone gets their email at some point.
Do you offer other services already ?
The mail mentions something like " we are writing to you as you currently set up to offer escort services only "
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I normally do outcalls but had booked some incalls to try.
Last week wasn’t great however this morning it’s been quite busy. Just waiting on 1st booking 30 mins, then 1 hour and a 2 hour.
I work full time too but just been told if schools shut I can only take unpaid leave or annual leave with is difficult as I’m trying to save for my son’s operation if it goes ahead.
Ignore me I had 3 back to back no shows. Really hacked off
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Do you offer other services already ?
The mail mentions something like " we are writing to you as you currently set up to offer escort services only "
Yes that's probably why. I'm offering webcam too. I wont be camming full time during coronavirus outbreak. Thanks god for good clients. I'm sorted with a civvy job from monday. Not bad pay but it's not what I used to get.
Hope everyone keeping strong
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Ignore me I had 3 back to back no shows. Really hacked off
If you are still working it may be worth it to ask for deposits. There will be plenty of wankers and idiots with no intention to see you.
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One of my regulars i see once a week said he needs to cut back as the place he works is struggling financially due to coronavirus and could be out of a job in a few weeks unless things change for the better. This will have a knock on effect with other businesses too plus people self isolating will affect our business too.
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I got it and i didnt have my green light on, havent for a week x
No green light for me either and I do not offer other services but I received the email from AWork today too. It could be that it is sent to everyone as AW revenue must be dropping rapidly with sps taking long breaks from real life meets so not needing to pay so much for advertising.
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I haven't recieved an email and I escort and cam x
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I haven't recieved an email and I escort and cam x
They could be sending them in groups or alphabetically (areas or cities etc) who knows but I doubt just a few are getting them. You may still find yours any day now. Those sps who already do cam and/or phone chat don't really need to be reminded to ramp up those services though do they?
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I haven’t received the email but my friend had so I knew about it from them. I offer escort and other services, my friend is escort only
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I am escort only but my light wasn’t on yesterday so it may be an escort only that gets them.
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I am escort only but my light wasn’t on yesterday so it may be an escort only that gets them.
Mine too, and I got one. We can't blame them for wanting to try and get those of us who don't pay them a cut for this other stuff to give it a go - I daresay at least some people who would never have wanted to do webcamming will be thinking about giving it a go even if I'm not one of them.
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Hey Ladies,
I am feeling really stressed right now. I know some of you have civvy jobs but if we go into lockdown will you still be able to go? As a massage therapist my work is dead and I really don’t want to escort right now aside the virus I think it will be very quiet and not worth the hotel money etc plus I think clients will think “how many guys has she seen today” ugh!
I’m all set up for camming and was on AW earlier but with 500+ girls online at the time (around 4pm-6pm) I didn’t even have one single call and I don’t think I’m changing over the odds for group and private - it’s just my profile is lost and then AW cash in and make you bid to be seen and pay more just to get your profile to the top. It really is so frustrating and unfair and they have the monopoly AND waiting two weeks to be paid out is ridiculous.
If anyone has any tips to boost cam clients or any other good sites or a way to play AW in your favour please please let me know.
I have zero patience as it is.
I sat in underwear for over 30 mins - gave up, put joggers on over the top and watched TV and waited for the cam to ring but literally nada. :'(
Ill give it another try now ::)
Stay safe, sane and sensible
Xxx
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Mine too, and I got one. We can't blame them for wanting to try and get those of us who don't pay them a cut for this other stuff to give it a go - I daresay at least some people who would never have wanted to do webcamming will be thinking about giving it a go even if I'm not one of them.
I don’t want to webcam, or do anything else sex related, and I am happy just doing the escorting, as long as I make at least £300 a week then I can manage and it’s totally doable even just now, plus I have signed up with a cleaning company and you download their app and when the jobs come in then you take it or not, it’s very similar to how a taxi company works with their app.
Someone else said here that up North then folks don’t care as much and it’s the same in Scotland, though they care so little that it’s bordering on ignorant and annoying but hey, it’s their choice if they want to book an escort with all this going on.
We all just want this to end though, what if this is how it’s going to be for the next year or so, or are these things strictly seasonal?
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hi girls i just wanna tell you...i was suppose to be in paris till end of march but people now cant even go out with shitty paper what for (means you need to be close to your home when u walk the dog or so)or paper from your boss...so no clients from today nor 1 sms. I hope I will be able to fly to birmingham tomorrow ....u think one day will be the same in UK? rent to pay, bill to pay...i have no idea what to do...i am not panicking, i just see this for looooong way to be here...and i dont even have resident status....asked for that month ago and still no answer...
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When I started escorting I swore I would never do webcaming I am one of those people who are so impatient. Even if I thought of doing it now I am fucked as I have two sons who live with me as a single parent one goes to work and one in a boarding school all are home as from this week. Will just have to survive on savings cut right down on all the luxuries for now am afraid.
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I just hope that the government start making changes for those of us who need to pay rent. I'm struggling.
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I just hope that the government start making changes for those of us who need to pay rent. I'm struggling.
I am up to date (I think) with the info on mortgage holidays for 3 months but private renters are not included and individual landlords could prove difficult to deal with.
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Apparently the government are going to be telling us about help for renters also in the next couple of days. I've noticed a significant drop in my income particularly over the last couple of weeks. I put this down to the majority of my clients being 60+, the uncertainty about finances for people who have to isolate themselves doesn't help either.
Just have to ride it out
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It is a very scary time to be alive. I've stopped seeing clients, because I've developed a cough and temperature :'( I'm hoping the UK government will announce a plan to help those of us who are now going to struggle...
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Me too. Camming is going alright at the moment, but it's only a matter of time, right? :'(
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I would advise all self employed to arrange a interview at the job centre. I have mine next week. There will be funding for you to get you through this. It may be that we all have to go on universal credit for 2-4 months to get us through. But at least your rent or mortgage will be covered. Don’t leave it to late to talk to the benefit office get in now while the funding is there. Good luck girls.
I’m isolating no way I’m booking hotels to sit in it alone all day. And I’m not letting clients into my house to spread it to me and my family.
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Me too. Camming is going alright at the moment, but it's only a matter of time, right? :'(
I was wondering this as well. For those of us that cam regularly I wonder if the sheer influx of girls will change that also. Only time will tell.
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I have the same concerns, Blondie. I think everyone will go on cam, and then there's the issue of men losing their jobs. I've already had a few camming regulars who say they won't buy tokens because they know they're going to lose their jobs. It is a huge worry.
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I am not scared by the virus. It's everyone's overreaction to it that worries me. Although I appreciate there are some that are more vulnerable and won't want to risk it.
I think the country needs to be all or nothing about this. There is no point some people being told to WFH and isolate while others are still going about a normal life.
Like you say MKX, there'll hopefully be an influx to make up for it when this is over.
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I'm trying to keep posts to the relevant threads so there's some switching about between this and the Slow one, but I'm fighting a losing battle, I know. For now, if we're talking about anything that could fall under the title of this one can we post it here rather than there, even if it means the long thread drops out for a bit? Then we haven't got two current threads about the same thing and people's replies won't get lost :)
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It is a very scary time to be alive. I've stopped seeing clients, because I've developed a cough and temperature :'( I'm hoping the UK government will announce a plan to help those of us who are now going to struggle...
I hope that you recover quickly take care of yourself
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I have remained calm and did get busy Monday I'm relying on clients to be sensible with their health as I'm sure they expect the same from me
I found corner shops had stocks of stuff the big supermarket had run out of I guess no one thinks they will . Got a few antibacterial things and cleaning after each client properly .
That's all I can do for the moment.
I have to go to my other job also so many staff rang in sick already with temperature.
So keep well and safe ladies xx
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Business Secretary Alok Sharma says the Housing Secretary will be making a statement shortly about how to protect millions of renters in the UK that could be affected by
coronavirus. I'm tuning into pmq's at noon, if it's still on. There is an argument that if people with mortgages get a three month holiday, that should be passed down to tenants.
I still think we will be over the worst of this by the end of June, we just st need to survive the next few months. But definitely get down to job centre as Blondie says.
I work three days a week usually seeing four people. Thankfully my regulars are still contacting me but I'll find out tomorrow when I intend to work. Could be sat there like a spare lemon all day.
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I have the same concerns, Blondie. I think everyone will go on cam, and then there's the issue of men losing their jobs. I've already had a few camming regulars who say they won't buy tokens because they know they're going to lose their jobs. It is a huge worry.
I’ve been on all morning and done £2.50 oh my god panic starting to rise.
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People are shocked and still cannot believe what has been happening. Most of us (men and women)!are trying to do future arrangements and have been busy to prepare themselves for home office or buying essentials.i cannot see webcam or escorting being reliable source of income for the next few weeks. When everything settles down and people changes their routines men will come back. Everyone is busy with planning future and their kids. Some schools are already closed and some parents decided not to send them back to school. I have no plans to go on webcam unless arranged with regular or someone who I seen on there before. Sitting on cam and not making any money would make me even more anxious. Hope everyone keeping strong. I believe it meant to happen and those of us who wanted to leave sex industry can make their final decision.
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I have the same concerns, Blondie. I think everyone will go on cam, and then there's the issue of men losing their jobs. I've already had a few camming regulars who say they won't buy tokens because they know they're going to lose their jobs. It is a huge worry.
Get better soon!
Must be a queue of girls waiting to get verified on the cam sites. Yes, there will be a big influx of new models and the men being more careful with their spending. On cam sites, it is only 10% of girls making 90% of all the money now, the rest are going to experience great loss in income
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I disagree with the 'only 10% of women on cam sites make the money.' I've been making a good income from it for years, alongside the escorting. I actually make a couple of hundred on cam a day, but am expecting that to stop when men run out of money...or become more hesitant about spending because of this.
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Coronavirus has totally affected business down south. I've gone from turning down conflicting bookings to picking up my phone to check it's working. Mind you mon to wed is normally quieter than thurs to sun. If it wasnt for my very loyal good hearted friend also client I would be up shit street.
I also cam usually at weekends and that appears unaffected so far but likes been said it relies of men having secure jobs.
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I'm down South too, Cherry. it's a nightmare, isn't it? :FF
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Hi all
Obviously things are going to get considerably quiet in out like of work.
What have you guys done in preparation? Are you going to try and see people where possible?
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I am in Hertfordshire it’s dead most men are worried sick about how they are going to pay their mortgages feed their families pay bills so am sure the last thing in their mind is seeing us girls we just have to carry on as much as we can like anybody else but this coming weeks will be a big challenge.
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I’m hoping this “had it test” appears soon. Would make it a lot easier to be able to say you’ve been there and are safe to work again. Though it will only those who have the higher income.
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If everywhere stays locked down too long the economy will crash and loads of men will lose their jobs, we'll be fighting over scraps :(
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If everywhere stays locked down too long the economy will crash and loads of men will lose their jobs, we'll be fighting over scraps :(
Yes. Let's hope the "I've had CV" tests get here soon then they at least can go back to work. Not sure how the closing down of schools from next week will pan out, but I'm planning on doing just two or three, three days a week for now. Not sure if I'll get them though but shall see tomorrow.
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I'm worried I can get it from someone's breath but just read if someone coughs or sneezes on you and you touch the droplets and then touch your face, that gives CV an entry point. Or if you touch a surface such as their clothes and they have it and then you touch your face with the CV on your hands, that's a way to get it. So definitely no touching my neck or face and plenty of hand washing. I keep catching myself touching my face but I'm not at work today. Habit I need to stop.
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It's been so quite for me this week , I am thinking of starting a proper job until the coronavirus crisis is finish. Had some bookings for this week but almost all have cancelled, I start to feel a bit panicking because things may get worst rather than better and no one knows for how long this going to be
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Same here.
I genuinely think that we are all going to have to accept this is really going to bring a downturn to our line of work.
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I'm worried I can get it from someone's breath but just read if someone coughs or sneezes on you and you touch the droplets and then touch your face, that gives CV an entry point. Or if you touch a surface such as their clothes and they have it and then you touch your face with the CV on your hands, that's a way to get it. So definitely no touching my neck or face and plenty of hand washing. I keep catching myself touching my face but I'm not at work today. Habit I need to stop.
I am kinaa convinced that you can catch it just by being around someone who has it - the government are saying it's airbourne. I just don't feel safe offering escort services at the min. The general hygiene of men is usually awful when there ISN'T a pandemic - let alone when there is! :FF
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Chances are we will go on lockdown so make sure you are well prepared to take a break from work.
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Today was my last day for the time being.
I’m terrified of catching it , thank god I have been putting money aside for a rainy days .
I don’t have a lot , but should be ok for a few months.
Some regulars offered to help financially if I struggle.
Be careful ladies and stay safe x
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I am kinaa convinced that you can catch it just by being around someone who has it - the government are saying it's airbourne. I just don't feel safe offering escort services at the min. The general hygiene of men is usually awful when there ISN'T a pandemic - let alone when there is! :FF
Within six feet of someone with CV who coughs or sneezes without a tissue to catch it. Although I'm paranoid about someone breathing over me. I know most people survive but still worrying.
I'm going to work for two weeks then take a break.
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Today I closed shop, no more bookings for me. The risk has become too high.
I have applied for Universal Credit - the initial interview will be held over the phone if you tell them you are self-isolating. And they don't actually expect you to get a job, everything has been relaxed. It's a pain in the arse to apply for, but we need all the support we can get right now.
If you have been paying your National Insurance for a number of years (from what I know) you will be able to claim contributory ESA, or Universal Credit.
I might try webcamming/selling online content... It's really not for me but I guess I've got a lot of spare time on my hands now. :-\
At least the Gov is saying that renters will be protected from eviction. That's been my main concern financially, I have some savings, but unfortunately I squandered my escorting money for far too long to have decent savings behind me.
Now more than ever we need to support ourselves, our loved ones and our communities. <3 Look after yourselves ladies. xx
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i agree its getting worse and worse by day but i dont expect this to last more than a month,hopefully
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Tidied again.
There are general discussion boards all over the internet and I doubt there is a dearth of posts on the topic; I'm not locking this one for those concerned members who need advice and support, so from now on anybody making posts unrelated to sex work will find themselves on premod with immediate effect.
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It is a very scary time to be alive. I've stopped seeing clients, because I've developed a cough and temperature :'( I'm hoping the UK government will announce a plan to help those of us who are now going to struggle...
Not really, because there's the 'flu' from, according to my doctor from Australia, that kills a lot more people than this virus that seems to. And then being self employed as escorts we charge the high hourly rates to cover for time off, illness and a myriad of other reasons to not be able to work. That means saving for these times. Anyone with savings will have to dip into them, hey ho such is life, for the rest who spend their earnings soon as they get them well there's a thing called the benefit system here in the UK so nobody is going to starve...Or be evicted.
Saying that though, we don't know how bad it's going to get, the scavenging toilet roll stock pilers are one thing, wait til the looting starts.... ::)
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School close is last straw for me, have no work for weeks anyway but no chance now as kids home.
Bright note though is I live in small university city and have had some regulars offer to help money against future booking. I think I do not to do this but might have to soon.
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I absolutely feel for the people in other countries where they're already struggling, it will now be a case of either eating or not :'(
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My regular client confirmed he's facing redundancy. Can see this happening more over the next few months which will have a knock on effect on us. I'm worried now
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I won’t work for the foreseeable future now. The exchanging of bodily fluids for me the risk is just too high. Hygiene is so important in this work and you’ll still get the clients with vile hygiene who won’t ever change their habits.
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Not really, because there's the 'flu' from, according to my doctor from Australia, that kills a lot more people than this virus that seems to. And then being self employed as escorts we charge the high hourly rates to cover for time off, illness and a myriad of other reasons to not be able to work. That means saving for these times. Anyone with savings will have to dip into them, hey ho such is life, for the rest who spend their earnings soon as they get them well there's a thing called the benefit system here in the UK so nobody is going to starve...Or be evicted.
Saying that though, we don't know how bad it's going to get, the scavenging toilet roll stock pilers are one thing, wait til the looting starts.... ::)
It is very bad for people like me who already suffer from autoimmune diseases. I don't think we need patronising right now. I am aware of the benefits system, and I think everyone else is too.
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I think all us girls need to support each other in this crisis. No one knows anyone else's financial position, reasons for working or how much they work. Lots of us have school age children and much the same as the rest of the world we are facing financial ruin, we are no different to workers losing jobs everywhere. Boris is certainly not handing out money to every citizen who needs help but not you girls because you should have saved. Let's support each other.
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When having listed your mobile number on AW, do you also get unsolicited text messages from drug dealers?
Well, I just received one of these messages and even the drug dealer now said to 'Stay safe'. :D
Have to say, it felt strangely reassuring. ;D
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anyone reasonably busy atm? im showing available today but so far no bookings or calls. nothing.
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What we need are some sexy hazmat suits.
I've done one regular and my other regular text for 7 tonight. He has type 1 diabetes so I asked if he was sure and he said yes, he's fit and healthy.
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When having listed your mobile number on AW, do you also get unsolicited text messages from drug dealers?
So many of them I'd be concerned that my profile hd been dumped if I didn't :D
What we need are some sexy hazmat suits.
I have a respirator at home that I use for DIY jobs (sanding and suchlike), and whilst it's no use whatsoever against germs, it did cross my mind to start opening the door in it ;D
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Had the same message this morning from the dealer also told him that every one is suffering financially at the moment and he still wanna sell the shit to people. Fucking idiot
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Well, I just received one of these messages and even the drug dealer now said to 'Stay safe'. :D
Have to say, it felt strangely reassuring. ;D
Yes because nothing screams "safety" more than taking hard drugs.
Seriously, the world is gone mad ???
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How many ladies are still working?
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Even the texts from the local drug dealers have stopped. Christ, things must be bad...
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How many ladies are still working?
im set as available today and i got zero calls today.
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Hi I stopped last week my worst fears were confirmed just couldn't put myself or others at risk.i had a very bad feeling about this and now here we are the worst flu iv ever experienced in my life time.its so frightening but I just have to accept it.
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Hi I stopped last week my worst fears were confirmed just couldn't put myself or others at risk.i had a very bad feeling about this and now here we are the worst flu iv ever experienced in my life time.its so frightening but I just have to accept it.
Oh no, are you sick? Do you have food, anyone to help you out? Did you manage to get tested? xx
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Hi no I'm fine still getting out to the shops and finding food how about you?
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Hi no I'm fine still getting out to the shops and finding food how about you?
Edit (as I think I misread the post earlier, sorry!):
Are you feeling a bit better now?
I'm good, thanks!, not working at all and have been on food rations for a month now.
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are you guys planning to show as available tomorrow on aw? i dont know what to do? i dont wanna miss out on bookings but at the same time dont wanna waste all my credits.
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Hi I stopped last week my worst fears were confirmed just couldn't put myself or others at risk.i had a very bad feeling about this and now here we are the worst flu iv ever experienced in my life time.its so frightening but I just have to accept it.
GG do you have flu like symptoms?
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are you guys planning to show as available tomorrow on aw? i dont know what to do? i dont wanna miss out on bookings but at the same time dont wanna waste all my credits.
Same. Il pay for featured and see what happens :-\
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I had featured today, local escorts aswell as available today, I had zero calls, not even from Timewasters. None, nada, zilch :-\ i think it’s time to focus on creating content to get my credits up for when this thing is over because I suspect we will be quite busy
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Same. Il pay for featured and see what happens :-\
I'm pretty sure the Featured slots will have sold out a month ago, GG - I have one for Tuesday even though I'm likely packing up tomorrow unless regulars get in touch.
Can the people posting personal messages to individuals on the thread please use the PM system? It's working fine :)
EDIT: And we have our first week in premod for off topic posting on this thread, despite every single warning I've given above. Any more for any more?
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I had featured today, local escorts aswell as available today, I had zero calls, not even from Timewasters. None, nada, zilch :-\ i think it’s time to focus on creating content to get my credits up for when this thing is over because I suspect we will be quite busy
where are you based
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Can the people posting personal messages to individuals on the thread please use the PM system? It's working fine :)
Why can't we support individuals who are not well and worried on the main thread? :(
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Why can't we support individuals who are not well and worried on the main thread? :(
We can! But a private conversation that doesn't include and isn't of interest to anyone else and doesn't continue the discussion belongs in a private message, because it's exactly that. A little like the Warning section not allowing the sort if endless 'hope u OK sending hugs' type posts that people.still occasionally try, which add nothing and mean useful stuff gets lost :).
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Btw I was surprised but I saw three regulars today. I'm not on AW, but I got zero calls from my adverts elsewhere.
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where are you based
London, but who knows maybe you might have better luck but I’m done for 2-4 weeks. It’s a sign when even my regular Timewasters are too busy to pester me ::) x
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Btw I was surprised but I saw three regulars today. I'm not on AW, but I got zero calls from my adverts elsewhere.
I think everybody I've seen in the last couple of weeks bar two noobs have been either regulars or at least returnees. I've had my phone number on AW, but to be honest the amount of genuine callers compared with the dickheads has dropped enough that I'm taking it down and just sticking with those I know (and the two I mentioned both came via other ads anyway).
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Anyone else had the ‘Corona’ excuse yet?
Meant to have 2 bookings yesterday, both didn’t confirm and contacted me around the time of the booking to say they’d been in urgent meetings about Corona.
Both asked to reschedule, one even gave a time, but didn’t confirm, the other just didn’t get back with an alternative date.
Now I appreciate that there are urgent meetings going on, but seriously? Not following through like this is a big red flag!
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No I'm healthy and want it to stay that way.thanks for your concern.
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I'm pretty sure the Featured slots will have sold out a month ago, GG - I have one for Tuesday even though I'm likely packing up tomorrow unless regulars get in touch.
Can the people posting personal messages to individuals on the thread please use the PM system? It's working fine :)
EDIT: And we have our first week in premod for off topic posting on this thread, despite every single warning I've given above. Any more for any more?
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I'm pretty sure the Featured slots will have sold out a month ago, GG - I have one for Tuesday even though I'm likely packing up tomorrow unless regulars get in touch.
Can the people posting personal messages to individuals on the thread please use the PM system? It's working fine :)
EDIT: And we have our first week in premod for off topic posting on this thread, despite every single warning I've given above. Any more for any more?
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I've had a booking for today - yay!
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Ive just taken 3 weeks off for a house renovation.
Desperately need to get back to work as my savings are almost gone, due to the work I've had done.
Couldn't have come at a worst time.
I'm still undecided what to do.
Thinking of just seeing 3/4 a week, spraying our hands at the door and no kissing.
Not perfect, but trying to lower the risk a little.
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Ive just taken 3 weeks off for a house renovation.
Desperately need to get back to work as my savings are almost gone, due to the work I've had done.
Couldn't have come at a worst time.
I'm still undecided what to do.
Thinking of just seeing 3/4 a week, spraying our hands at the door and no kissing.
Not perfect, but trying to lower the risk a little.
Another girl recommended avoiding kissing and owo earlier in the thread, and that's what I've done. I have an interview for universal credit on Monday to keep me going...
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Just saw the chancellors update on helping self employed people but I’m still a bit confused.
As an escort who is fully registered with HMRC and been paying my taxes, am I entitled to apply for universal credit to claim statutory sick pay at £95 per week, along with not having to pay my tax due in July until next year now? Thanks
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Just saw the chancellors update on helping self employed people but I’m still a bit confused.
As an escort who is fully registered with HMRC and been paying my taxes, am I entitled to apply for universal credit to claim statutory sick pay at £95 per week, along with not having to pay my tax due in July until next year now? Thanks
Yes. Well sort of, you aren't getting SSP, but UC up to the level of SSP
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Just saw the chancellors update on helping self employed people but I’m still a bit confused.
As an escort who is fully registered with HMRC and been paying my taxes, am I entitled to apply for universal credit to claim statutory sick pay at £95 per week, along with not having to pay my tax due in July until next year now? Thanks
Yeh I'm confused by this too. Some odd weeks I will have credits to withdraw from people viewing videos/gallery so not sure how it would work with universal credit.
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absolutely zero calls or bookings today besides showing as available today on aw.
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I just had one regular today and a call from someone I didn't like the sound of so didn't see. I'm going to be taking a break I think because I am getting worried I'll get this thing.
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Whilst my period of self isolation is over, I’ve decided to only take very minimal bookings to tide me over during this outbreak and try to remain as isolated as possible - I am very concerned and I don’t think I could work at normal capacity for my own well being.
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I'm no longer working as of two days ago. It isn't worth the risk to me. Of course, now that schools are closed I have my child until further notice anyway as his dad is in the at risk category so unable to do our usual shared childcare, so wouldn't be able to even if I thought I'd risk it. Things will be tight for a while but the positive side is more time with my child, time to get things around the house done that I've been putting off and more time to get new pictures done and working on blogs. Been meaning to for months but never got around to them - if they earn a few credits then it's a plus and will pay for advertising when I do return - and I do think once this settles down we will be busy again.
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This has affected my business this week certainly. I've had regs cancel at the last minute because of it and people that I've seen before have text me to say Oh, I was going to come and see you blah, blah, but this virus I'd better stay at home ::) ::)
They'd no intention of seeing me ... it's just an excuse to get some communication ::)
It really angers me to think that they can use this serious situation to their advantage and messing me about is fine :FF
If you don't wanna see me that's fine but don't make contact in the first place :FF I have better things to do or not do than pander to them.
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I'm having to isolate for 12 weeks, due to an underlying health issue. This means no work for 12 weeks. There is financial help out there however. You can apply for universal credit and get fast tracked. You must be hmrc registered however, for them to help you out using the covid-19 special programme. Just apply online via the government website. Explain you can not work at all because of the outbreak. They'll get you the money asap. This applies to UK residents only. Hope this helps some of you out!
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I'm having to isolate for 12 weeks, due to an underlying health issue. This means no work for 12 weeks. There is financial help out there however. You can apply for universal credit and get fast tracked. You must be hmrc registered however, for them to help you out using the covid-19 special programme. Just apply online via the government website. Explain you can not work at a because of the outbreak. They'll get you the money asap. This applies to UK residents only. Hope this helps some of you out!
Yes, I am in the same situation as my daughter is in the serious risk category. I can't work for 12 weeks. UC were great. I got an advance loan and will get enough on a monthly basis to pay my rent.
I can probably stay afloat with savings for 4 months but after that I will need to return in some capacity.
They didn't mention HMRC to me, even though I told them I was self employed. I think everyone's circumstances will be different.
I have had a few local enquiries for work but obviously can't take them plus I think social distancing is important to combat this pandemic faster. I'm really hoping we can go back to work in July.
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I'm having to isolate for 12 weeks, due to an underlying health issue. This means no work for 12 weeks. There is financial help out there however. You can apply for universal credit and get fast tracked. You must be hmrc registered however, for them to help you out using the covid-19 special programme. Just apply online via the government website. Explain you can not work at a because of the outbreak. They'll get you the money asap. This applies to UK residents only. Hope this helps some of you out!
Don't let the fact you have not registered yet as self employed with HMRC stop you from claiming as their rules are:
legally you need to register by 5 October after the end of the tax year in which you became self-employed. For example, if you started your business in after 5th April 2019, you'd need to register with HMRC by 5 October 2020.
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I have had a few local enquiries for work but obviously can't take them plus I think social distancing is important to combat this pandemic faster. I'm really hoping we can go back to work in July.
My friend in Spain said that fit, healthy people are bringing the virus home to their more vulnerable family members. It's grave situation over there. This made me feel very conflicted now about working in the UK :-\. I know for a fact that my clients still socialise with vulnerable family members.
In London, massage parlours will be closing. Restaurants, gyms, spas and pubs. Maybe its a sign for me to social distance from today, until the worst is over.
I do camming -as long as I hit my daily target of £40 a day, I can pay my rent and expenses no problem.
I know not everyone can cam. Hope they can get loans and financial help in other ways.
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This has affected my business this week certainly. I've had regs cancel at the last minute because of it and people that I've seen before have text me to say Oh, I was going to come and see you blah, blah, but this virus I'd better stay at home ::) ::)
They'd no intention of seeing me ... it's just an excuse to get some communication ::)
Some assume I am ill already,
One regular client suggested he will take me to dinner instead and pay my full rate. When I reminded him that restaurants are closing, he replied he can't let me into his house anymore.
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I have lowered my prices, my friend thinks I should put them up (she used to work but hasn’t for years) and I know where she is coming from but I can’t as so many men have lost their jobs and it’s not fair.
One guy wanted me to lower my 15 min from £40 and add kissing and said that he came too quickly, I told him that it wasn’t my issue and that £40 is cheap enough!
This is definitely bringing out all the wrong ones that’s for sure, I am insisting on them having AW profiles with decent feedback as i have had a couple if calls where as soon as they speak my intuition is saying “no way”, I had so many calls yesterday and 2 wanted my postcode and I had a feeling they wouldn’t turn up so I gave them the wrong postcode on purpose and none of them turned up, so many address collectors too, it’s scary, there was also one guy who asked if I did bareback and anal, as if I’m going to risk my sexual health because things are quiet, told him if he did bareback with sex workers then I won’t see him.
I am going to try and get a loan to cover me as I don’t want to work just now but I absolutely have too.
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I'm basically down to one regular, so I'm not even a sex worker anymore but basically a sort of unofficial mistress who gets slipped cash.
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I've just briefly skimmed over the HMRC website on self employment and the only thing that's potentially helpful to us is the 10K grant scheme.
It says you have to work from a property though.
I work from home in most cases, but I don't know whether that will affect council tax cos the council don't know I work from home. Someone once told me that you have to pay a different band if you let them know what you do. I don't know whether that's true or not.
On the website it did say if you're eligible you would have a letter from your local authority. So we will just have to wait and see.
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Just curious to know if anyone is still working through the coronavirus and how busy it is for you at the minute?
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I've stopped offering bookings at all for the time being. I just don't think it's worth the risk, but I am in the 'at-risk' group. I'll be sticking to camming for a while. Hope you're all staying safe, ladies :-*
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After reading what my accountant has just sent me, I think it's SSP or UC that applies more to us ::)
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After reading what my accountant has just sent me, I think it's SSP or UC that applies more to us ::)
Ive put in an application for UC, so fingers crossed :-X
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Ive put in an application for UC, so fingers crossed :-X
Good luck!
I'm hoping against all odds I am entitled to the 10K grant.
My accountant claims tax relief for the running costs of my home ... heating bills, internet connection, panic alarm security costs etc.
Fingers crossed!
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I’ve had my number shown most of the week. I’ve not paid for local featuring or available today. I’ve done 3 half hours - 2 we’re returning clients. It’s super quiet for me and I’m in the East Midlands.
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I’ve had my number shown most of the week. I’ve not paid for local featuring or available today. I’ve done 3 half hours - 2 we’re returning clients. It’s super quiet for me and I’m in the East Midlands.
what city are you in? still very good compared to others. iv'e done nothing today and im showing my number and available today. got a few enquiries but none of them turned into bookings
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what city are you in? still very good compared to others. iv'e done nothing today and im showing my number and available today. got a few enquiries but none of them turned into bookings
DL, not everybody wants to post their exact location on the public board in case they're identified, or for any other reason they like. Please stop it.
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DL, not everybody wants to post their exact location on the public board in case they're identified, or for any other reason they like. Please stop it.
whats the problem? its not about being nosey but comparing between areas of the country to see if my area is the only one affected. lol i didn't ask anybody to identify themselves
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I've stopped offering bookings at all for the time being. I just don't think it's worth the risk, but I am in the 'at-risk' group. I'll be sticking to camming for a while. Hope you're all staying safe, ladies :-*
Please everyone do not work. Italy are reporting cases of people in the age bracket 30-40 coming into intensive care now. I’ve been watching the reports all day on bbc news. The medical staff were begging people if we don’t want the death rate they have we must stay at home.
Also some people that have the virus have no symptoms at all and those are the worry spreading it to the vulnerable.
The simple message is if you want this over fast we must all follow their advice or it’s going to go on and on.
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whats the problem? its not about being nosey but comparing between areas of the country to see if my area is the only one affected. lol i didn't ask anybody to identify themselves
Surely East Mids is enough?
I'm not sure geography makes much difference, except that London is possibly different to the rest of the country in terms of the effect of the WFH for a lot of people (i.e. business men now have no opportunity for a booking).
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whats the problem? its not about being nosey but comparing between areas of the country to see if my area is the only one affected. lol i didn't ask anybody to identify themselves
The problem is exactly what I said, and I'm not repeating myself. Stop demanding people post their location on the board, and if you're that desperate to know then send them a PM. They might even tell you.
As for thinking your area might be the only one affected that's not even stupid, it's downright bizarre. Have you been hiding under the settee for the last week?
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Have you been hiding under the settee for the last week?
I wish I was :-\
I agree with blondie. Most of us are not working. We are on the same boat as anyone else.
Hope time will pass quickly and we can go back to work :-*
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I agree with blondie. Most of us are not working. We are on the same boat as anyone else.
Hope time will pass quickly and we can go back to work :-*
I packed away my work stuff at my flat yesterday, stuck the lingerie and clothes in a bag out of the way and the rest in a box on a shelf in the living room. My bedside now has my books and knitting on it, and the drawer has handcream and a sleep mask and the TV remote in rather than condoms and lube and nappy bags. It's a very small thing, but it's nice for a change :).
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As for thinking your area might be the only one affected that's not even stupid, it's downright bizarre. Have you been hiding under the settee for the last week?
i hv 2 acquaintances who are doing very well in manchester TODAY AND YESTERDAY. while in my area and i assume in most areas its been dead. the reason to know what areas are doing well right now is to identify possible touring opportunities as im running low on money and i need to tour asap or i will go bankrupt. lol its not like im gonna identify anyone here i mean there're hundreds of profiles in every city. so as said, im trying to figore out where its busy for now thats why i asked, no other motives lol.
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*still completely ignoring the fact that the PM system exists*
Did I stutter?
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i hv 2 acquaintances who are doing very well in manchester TODAY AND YESTERDAY. while in my area and i assume in most areas its been dead. the reason to know what areas are doing well right now is to identify possible touring opportunities as im running low on money and i need to tour asap or i will go bankrupt. lol its not like im gonna identify anyone here i mean there're hundreds of profiles in every city. so as said, im trying to figore out where its busy for now thats why i asked, no other motives lol.
ALL of us running out of money. Girls are not working and staying at home for the right reason. I don’t think anyone can advice you on busy area fully packed with horny men. We are all worried so it’s not only about you.
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I’d love not to be working, but I don’t like the tone I’m hearing here. We don’t all have savings to fall back on. I had two years of ill health which swallowed them up, and literally this February was the first time I’ve been properly available.
I’m taking a lot of additional precautions, and obviously I know that can’t mitigate all risks, but if I’m to retain a home, I have no choice.
I’m noticing a big downturn in bookings which was fairly obvious tbh, I’m hardly getting any, a huge increase in timewasters too.
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I’m taking a lot of additional precautions, and obviously I know that can’t mitigate all risks, but if I’m to retain a home, I have no choice.
Hang in there, LT. I'm avoiding the endless news reports, but I do know that there's been some considerable outcry about self employed sole traders being left out of the government provisions, so hopefully they'll get to us sooner or later :).
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I’d love not to be working, but I don’t like the tone I’m hearing here. We don’t all have savings to fall back on. I had two years of ill health which swallowed them up, and literally this February was the first time I’ve been properly available.
I haven't had a chance to start saving yet, I only started working in November and after saving for Xmas and clearing the credit card has been so little work since it has only just kept us going. Was really banking on things picking up this month as so many more experienced ladies advised.
And now has come the gamechanger, there will be no March pick up, it is just back to the basics, living on the breadline again. We will just about cope I should think, but there will be luxuries and no treats, just very basic food.
When I noticed the rats in the city I said 'Welcome to the new Victorian era' now I believe that stronger than ever.
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i hv 2 acquaintances who are doing very well in manchester TODAY AND YESTERDAY. while in my area and i assume in most areas its been dead. the reason to know what areas are doing well right now is to identify possible touring opportunities as im running low on money and i need to tour asap or i will go bankrupt. lol its not like im gonna identify anyone here i mean there're hundreds of profiles in every city. so as said, im trying to figore out where its busy for now thats why i asked, no other motives lol.
I would not base a tour on only that, just because your 2 friends in Manchester are doing well it doesn't mean the rest of us in Manchester are and that its some sort of boom town. I am not just talking about myself I am a member of a Manchester screening group on whats app and I guarantee that not one of us is doing well. In fact I would be highly surprised that anyone is doing well at the moment unless they only usually work minimum hours anyway.
P.s you would be surprised how easy it is to figure some ones ID just by a few things, after someone knows they are in the right location they can then dig a little deeper so always be careful about giving to much info out over the internet at least thats what children are told it should come to adults naturally
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Was really banking on things picking up this month as so many more experienced ladies advised
If it makes you feel any better I've never found March a good month, or even April particularly (at the start, anyway) :)
I forgot to post this earlier but it might be useful for anybody who doesn't book train tickets online and might not know - a lot of train timetables have been reduced and altered from Monday so if you have a ticket booked please check it's running, especially if you're trying to get home. What it also means is that some of the companies are relaxing their restrictions on refunds even for the advance tickets so it's worth a look - I just did some LNER ones :).
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I just finished my last brief 2 day tour on Thursday and although I did do well I am feeling a bit worried about paying for a place and organising anything else because I am concerned that we might be banned from going out and travelling. I can't afford to lose the money or get stranded in an AirBnB.
I am very worried because, having just moved house I have zero money and a fair bit of debt.
Ive tried to apply for a bit of Universal Credit until we are able to work again but I'm freaking out because I'm not sure that I am entitled to anything plus, even if I am, I believe it's only 90 odd quid a week. That's not going to touch even my basic bills and expenses.
Worrying times. There seems to be no option but to keep trying to work for so many of us.
I know from experience that clients often don't care about your health and will turn up even if they aren't feeling well. I seem to always be down with some kind of bug.
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I'm avoiding the endless news reports, but I do know that there's been some considerable outcry about self employed sole traders being left out of the government provisions, so hopefully they'll get to us sooner or later :).
I also hope they will review the plan!
Overall, I don't think that the government's plan is great. They are pumping money in businesses that might not even be needed in the next year's market.
The market is a dynamic structure based on factors like demand and supply - these might be drastically different in the near future.
The government is freezing businesses as they are now and trying to impose this old structure on a very new reality.
It doesn't make sense.
I was hoping they would temporarily introduce Universal Basic Income, which would give all a similar footing.
I'm very unhappy with the difference in how self-employed are treated. Also, they didn't freeze bills so far.
I have no idea how one could survive on Universal Credit alone, so I think it will push more people into debt.
The world might be quite different in the near future.
It would make more sense if the government introduced support in gaining new skills and qualifications.
I'll try to use this time to learn a new skill that would help me to adapt to the new circumstances.
I have to say though, it's difficult to concentrate when worried and scared. :-\
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I also hope they will review the plan!
Overall, I don't think that the government's plan is great. They are pumping money in businesses that might not even be needed in the next year's market.
The market is a dynamic structure based on factors like demand and supply - these might be drastically different in the near future.
The government is freezing businesses as they are now and trying to impose this old structure on a very new reality.
It doesn't make sense.
I was hoping they would temporarily introduce Universal Basic Income, which would give all a similar footing.
I'm very unhappy with the difference in how self-employed are treated. Also, they didn't freeze bills so far.
I have no idea how one could survive on Universal Credit alone, so I think it will push more people into debt.
The world might be quite different in the near future.
It would make more sense if the government introduced support in gaining new skills and qualifications.
I'll try to use this time to learn a new skill that would help me to adapt to the new circumstances.
I have to say though, it's difficult to concentrate when worried and scared. :-\
The way in which quite a few people work is changing, as well as travel.
I'm in an area shielded to some extent however fear and judgement is on display, but right across the country on social media it looks similar. I've had a few try it on regards rates but no more than usual and many who have just stayed calm. As ever the variation is refreshing.
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After reading what my accountant has just sent me, I think it's SSP or UC that applies more to us ::)
I'll be applying for benefits next week - Universal Credit and Employment and Support Allowance.
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To be fair i do know a lot of sex workers that have no savings and have phoned UC and got immediate same day emergency money anything from £400 to £710 to survive as they are following government advice to not have close contact or spread it and til they get there decided benefit money and the government will announce soon more info on helping sole traders they can only do so much on each situation daily all needs to be worked out.
So i know it will not cover everybody's loans, Credit cards and other debts but if it covers food and gas and electricity that is all we mainly need just to survive. They know everybody cannot pay every bill we are all in it together and there are measures and help coming into place so companies are not all expecting everyone to pay all bills at the moment.
We are all adults so if sex workers and punters want to carry on for now that is down to them if they catch it or pass it on well there choice. Just like so many went out last night to the pub on the last night to get drunk all mixing together no care for government authority asking us not to do it.
For the sex workers that are still working though my thoughts are with you and i hope you stay healthy.
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To be fair i do know a lot of sex workers that have no savings and have phoned UC and got immediate same day emergency money anything from £400 to £710 to survive as they are following government advice to not have close contact or spread it and til they get there decided benefit money and the government will announce soon more info on helping sole traders they can only do so much on each situation daily all needs to be worked out.
So i know it will not cover everybody's loans, Credit cards and other debts but if it covers food and gas and electricity that is all we mainly need just to survive. They know everybody cannot pay every bill we are all in it together and there are measures and help coming into place so companies are not all expecting everyone to pay all bills at the moment.
We are all adults so if sex workers and punters want to carry on for now that is down to them if they catch it or pass it on well there choice. Just like so many went out last night to the pub on the last night to get drunk all mixing together no care for government authority asking us not to do it.
For the sex workers that are still working though my thoughts are with you and i hope you stay healthy.
Perfectly said x
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Yes, thank you for this post, EG!
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Quite a few people on this thread have mentioned applying for UC, but there seem to be lots of supermarket/online delivery jobs coming up, which might be a preferable short-term alternative?
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Quite a few people on this thread have mentioned applying for UC, but there seem to be lots of supermarket/online delivery jobs coming up, which might be a preferable short-term alternative?
I think I’m gonna go down this route. I already had another customer service job but that’s quiet too atm. I’m lucky I have a kinda of sugar daddy that has helped me tremendously at the moment with stuff!!
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At the moment there is no landlord or landlady who is going to evict you. Call your utility companies and explain your situation about not earning much like everyone due to the virus. If you manage to apply for UC it’s not much but will feed you and your family for the time being. I have stopped working for now it’s hard time for everyone but health is more important than anything.
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Quite a few people on this thread have mentioned applying for UC, but there seem to be lots of supermarket/online delivery jobs coming up, which might be a preferable short-term alternative?
In normal circumstances, I would say it's a great idea, but now I think it's too risky.
Delivery drivers should be given proper PPE and double pay.
But now even the NHS staff do not have PPE to protect themselves and already there are reports of medics ill, some critically.
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In normal circumstances, I would say it's a great idea, but now I think it's too risky.
Well it may be too risky for some and certainly anybody in a vulnerable group, but others amongst us want to be productive and pay some bills as well as.contributing whatever we can to help - people need food and cleaning products and without the wherewithal to get it the NHS will be flattened even more. I spent yesterday doing exactly what Kay suggests and I'll spend tomorrow doing likewise.
That said, it's wandering away from sex work again. It was ticking over fine, so let's get back to the thread title please :).
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I just don't want to be responsible for putting someone in intensive care, or making them lose loved ones. There are men who still want to see me, but I'm not doing it. I can't complain about the system and then be part of the problem. I'm not a hypocrite.
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In normal circumstances, I would say it's a great idea, but now I think it's too risky.
Delivery drivers should be given proper PPE and double pay.
But now even the NHS staff do not have PPE to protect themselves and already there are reports of medics ill, some critically.
Plus many sex workers who are applying for UC are single mums and it's not easy to get childcare at this moment. It's too risky to get job in supermarket when you have underlying health conditions and living with elederly parents.
I won't be starting civvy job till all gets clear and we are safe to go out. Sugar daddies and webcam can help to go through this without being hit financially. Let's see how government can help to self employed people. It may take some time but we will be fine :)
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I just don't want to be responsible for putting someone in intensive care, or making them lose loved ones. There are men who still want to see me, but I'm not doing it. I can't complain about the system and then be part of the problem. I'm not a hypocrite.
Unless you're dragging punters in off the street against their will, you're not responsible for any such thing. Adults can and will make their own choices.
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Unless you're dragging punters in off the street against their will, you're not responsible for any such thing. Adults can and will make their own choices.
This is an interesting dilemma.
I would compare it to keeping the pubs open while advising not to use them.
Is it allowing adults to make their choices? Or is it facilitating "covidiots" to spread the disease further?
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What it is is a matter of not making judgemental comments about other sex workers, who really don't need to hear it when they're probably.feeling torn enough as it is. We are not responsible for endangering some punters' silver haired grandmother any more than a pub landlord is responsible for a drunk bloke going home and beating his partner after he's served him a few pints. The consequences are for the punters' conscience, just as they are not responsible for anybody we might have who could suffer as a result.
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For those of us who are desperate and feel that they may have no choice over the coming months to do a small amount of work to survive, I do wonder if the upshot of cabin fever may be that in a couple of weeks all of the men are dying to escape for an hour.
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I do wonder if the upshot of cabin fever may be that in a couple of weeks all of the men are dying to escape for an hour.
Probably.
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Probably.
Indeed. I suspect the divorce lawyers of the land and possibly the patio building supply places are gearing up for a busy time too.
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For those of us who are desperate and feel that they may have no choice over the coming months to do a small amount of work to survive, I do wonder if the upshot of cabin fever may be that in a couple of weeks all of the men are dying to escape for an hour.
Let’s hope so! This time last year it was pretty steady so this year would be the same if it wasn’t the way it was, although perhaps Brexit would have caused some issues.
Are parlours and saunas open does anyone know? If so then will they made to shut? Who would make them shut if they had to, the local council from the area that parkour is in? Just curious.
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Are parlours and saunas open does anyone know? If so then will they made to shut? Who would make them shut if they had to, the local council from the area that parkour is in? Just curious.
I imagine they would fall under the same definition as pubs, gyms and so on - places where people might gather unnecessarily. They'd be shut in England and Wales (although being brothels they're illegal anyway) but Scotland is different, although since they seem to have been pretty proactive so far and I'd be amazed if the licensed saunas had any kind of exemption.
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I would certainly suggest to get ready for this being around for many, many months.
Some of us can perhaps take a step back for a couple of weeks, others for a couple of months. But if this goes on for the rest of the year, nearly all of us cannot escape what that would lead to.
I've decided to keep going on a very limited basis of clients who show no symptoms and who use any bacterial gel etc when they arrive.
It's not full proof but its lowering the risk.
Also worth bearing in mind that in a couple of months there will be people who have already had it and cannot catch it again and so will feel there is no risk for them. So its important we are ready for that.
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Indeed. I suspect the divorce lawyers of the land and possibly the patio building supply places are gearing up for a busy time too.
Paaaahahahaaaa!
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I think parlours and saunas have to shut, or at least they definitely should. A few escorting agencies are also shutting up shop for a while.
Although it's a hypothetical question at the moment, I would be up for doing the odd booking - it might be my only human contact for a few days, so on an odds basis the risk is lower than e.g. a trip to the supermarket.
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Also worth bearing in mind that in a couple of months there will be people who have already had it and cannot catch it again and so will feel there is no risk for them. So its important we are ready for that.
I have read many times over the last week or so that this is not guaranteed. It has not been around long enough for a definitive answer as to whether it can be contracted a second time.
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Every parlour I know is shut down.
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I'm working tomorrow as I've paid for the flat. I'm offering (don't laugh) a no contact service.
I will probably do the full personal too but I'm only doing doggy style as I'm worried about droplets from breath. From what I've read, CV is contacted (contracted?) through inhaling droplets of a sneeze/cough of someone infected. But you can inhale someone's breath surely.
Got a feeling it will be a tad better tomorrow because the sun's out. 🤔
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A no contact service could be an idea if people need to work but are worried, you can offer a toy show, striptease, they watch you wank in the shower... I guess a reduced rate may come into play but it's a great option. Distance can be kept from start to finish and a lot of guys might appreciate they can still see someone and keep as 'safe' as possible.
Maybe ideas here for similar things may help some ladies who need to work but don't perhaps want to?
I do appreciate that most guys will want f/s or bj's of course but these are not normal times and you could actually gain customers that wouldn't have risked it otherwise.
And I know any close contact will never be 'safe' right now but offering a service that keeps a distance could help?
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Hi ladies, I'm just curious to know your thoughts on working during the coronavirus outbreak. Are u still taking bookings, taking extra precautions or have u given up the job for now?
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I won't work this week I feel sick no temperature no coughing. Chest pains so mild nasea since Monday last week :-[
I do hope none of the ladies here have contracted covid
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Every parlour I know is shut down.
Parlour I worked from closed 2 week ago, most seem closed now.
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I was working in a well being center I Austria, it wasn't very busy before the outbreak but the last week was dead. we were ordered to close
I am not gong to work until it blows over.
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I imagine they would fall under the same definition as pubs, gyms and so on - places where people might gather unnecessarily. They'd be shut in England and Wales (although being brothels they're illegal anyway) but Scotland is different, although since they seem to have been pretty proactive so far and I'd be amazed if the licensed saunas had any kind of exemption.
Im sure they come under health or leisure centers its something along those lines so they should be shut x
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Except my local shops, garages, dentists(?), bus drivers, etc most of which are still handling money.
Yes ideally all of us would shut up shop. There is help out there but not for everyone right now.
As far as I'm aware the government guidelines do not say not to touch hands (if that hand has CV on it and you touch your face, you are likely to get it, so wash hands thoroughly). You can't catch CV by contact, it's caught by touching a surface that has been touched by an infected person, and even then the way it enters your body is via eyes mouth and nose. And of course you can catch it via inhaling someone's infected droplets.
I personally am working today and then taking a break indefinitely.
But we are all able to make our own decisions.
Edited to add my post in response to one that's been deleted.
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I wouldn't mind working if I had some sort of assurance that some of these punters had a modicum of awareness that this is risky and it isn't just 'business as usual' but they don't, some of them are just clueless, had one such idiot contact me today who didn't even notice my update from over a week ago, he just thinks the standard from before will hold true now and I haven't got time for people like that because it is exactly the type who will turn with symptoms and not tell you.
I am a higher risk so as is one of my sproglets, I can't take that risk so I have decided to go cyber if possible or otherwise rely on the benefits, no it isn't really enough but I have an overdraft and a credit card with nothing on it (I WAS able to pay that off at least) we will be ok, but no judgement to the women who are taking the risk, I honestly considered it but with my lungs deciding to give me fair warning of their delicacy right now, I have decided to listen to my body.
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Something important to add. I understand why some sex workers might still be trying to work now as none of us know every single persons situation and why they need to take the risk but we know they really need the money and are worried not because they miss sex and need it well i don't think so anyway.
But the worry is the small percentage of punters that are ignoring government advice and still wanting to get there penis serviced which is not a vital need whatsoever so i would be concerned with those types i doubt there following advice on health and hygiene outside of there orgasm visit. We already deal with some men before this that do not like washing when there visting a sex worker, we see shitty arses, smelly penis, piss smells and that is sometimes after they have supposed to have showered. Just cannot see these types staying 2 meters away from people if going supermarket and washing hands regularly. I just can see them breaking other guideline advice if there booking sex workers.
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I wouldn't mind working if I had some sort of assurance that some of these punters had a modicum of awareness that this is risky and it isn't just 'business as usual' but they don't, some of them are just clueless, had one such idiot contact me today who didn't even notice my update from over a week ago, he just thinks the standard from before will hold true now and I haven't got time for people like that because it is exactly the type who will turn with symptoms and not tell you.
I am a higher risk so as is one of my sproglets, I can't take that risk so I have decided to go cyber if possible or otherwise rely on the benefits, no it isn't really enough but I have an overdraft and a credit card with nothing on it (I WAS able to pay that off at least) we will be ok, but no judgement to the women who are taking the risk, I honestly considered it but with my lungs deciding to give me fair warning of their delicacy right now, I have decided to listen to my body.
Someone who I've yet to meet (no booking yet) told me he was going to the pub when I declined his booking Friday night (had a personal event arranged(online)), then texted me in the early hours asking if I was available.
Has sent various messages over the last ten days saying he thinks I am wonderful, have spoken on the phone, but one of those only wants to book at short notice (no partner, lives alone), is a significant distance away and middle of the night pub or no pub isn't going to work.
BUT in light of what actually was put in place on Friday, just a little bit shocking.
Always interesting the things that guys who say "Really want to see you, think you are really nice, I'm really keen, respectful etc" go on to actually do.
BUT it's being done right across all areas of life.
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Something important to add. I understand why some sex workers might still be trying to work now as none of us know every single persons situation and why they need to take the risk but we know they really need the money and are worried not because they miss sex and need it well i don't think so anyway.
But the worry is the small percentage of punters that are ignoring government advice and still wanting to get there penis serviced which is not a vital need whatsoever so i would be concerned with those types i doubt there following advice on health and hygiene outside of there orgasm visit. We already deal with some men before this that do not like washing when there visting a sex worker, we see shitty arses, smelly penis, piss smells and that is sometimes after they have supposed to have showered. Just cannot see these types staying 2 meters away from people if going supermarket and washing hands regularly. I just can see them breaking other guideline advice if there booking sex workers.
The few clients/punters I have seen in recent weeks have been incredibly clean, incredibly respectful, apart from punting appear to be adhering to everything else. Whether the drunk, high, daft enquiries would be like that I do not know, considering the state of someone I spoke two weekend but last I would say he definitely was not in a state to respect himself nor anyone else. I won't ordinarily see someone like that, so no change there.
A regular who has been ok in the past but a handful in other ways, part a health condition which I have a lot of patience for, did have a pooey bum a few weeks ago. Also had been lax with something else, so a word was had and I know he got the message. Had a lot of time for him, but there has to be a point where I cannot just say it's his illness/disability. Actually was really sad about it.
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Except my local shops, garages, dentists(?), bus drivers, etc most of which are still handling money.
Yes ideally all of us would shut up shop. There is help out there but not for everyone right now.
As far as I'm aware the government guidelines do not say not to touch hands (if that hand has CV on it and you touch your face, you are likely to get it, so wash hands thoroughly). You can't catch CV by contact, it's caught by touching a surface that has been touched by an infected person, and even then the way it enters your body is via eyes mouth and nose. And of course you can catch it via inhaling someone's infected droplets.
I personally am working today and then taking a break indefinitely.
But we are all able to make our own decisions.
Edited to add my post in response to one that's been deleted.
How great would it be to have a pot of money in the bank and be able to take a 3 month break but unfortunately until they sort out a decent finance package for the self employed we will be forced to work x
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Hi BL. It might be worth a shot to call UC maybe for now?
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Hi BL. It might be worth a shot to call UC maybe for now?
I already have done thanks, hopefully they will announce some help soon enough after all we pay our tax and nat ins as well. Being self employed is already scary enough but with this added pressure :o
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I have just received some bad news. An acquaintance has just passed 2 days after testing positive, he was only 30 and recently travelled to New York. I am not going to take any chances with work, I was going to initially but his death has made me realise that this is way more dangerous than I was thinking.... :'( :'( :'( tough times
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I have just received some bad news. An acquaintance has just passed 2 days after testing positive, he was only 30 and recently travelled to New York. I am not going to take any chances with work, I was going to initially but his death has made me realise that this is way more dangerous than I was thinking.... :'( :'( :'( tough times
Really sorry to hear this, I hear individual reactions to the virus is quite variable.
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I have just received some bad news. An acquaintance has just passed 2 days after testing positive, he was only 30 and recently travelled to New York. I am not going to take any chances with work, I was going to initially but his death has made me realise that this is way more dangerous than I was thinking.... :'( :'( :'( tough times
What awful news, I am sorry.
As a parent I am now absolutely freaked out. I am not taking any chances though my inbox has been off the CHARTS today, with clear timewasters and genuine punters alike. I don't think women continuing to work should find it all that hard to find work, the punters are coming back already, didn't take long for them to get desperate.
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I too have been insisting on handwashing but i have noticed some trying to just sprinkle water over there hands and not actually properly wash them but if there like that with there cock and arsehole which a lot are not good at cleaning themselves ( had somebody recent have a shower and his arse stunk and noticed shit stains on the towel and i told him too and his response was oh sorry i must have forgotten to wipe my bum when i did a shit. Disgusting) no surprise they can be like it with hand washing.
:-X how vile
I insist they wash after a wee if they want owo.
I've had one shit on a chair cushion basically I threw that cushion out I couldn't keep it.
Some guys are very unhygienic and have a strange concept of cleanliness , hygiene these worry me more as they wouldn't take precautions reg hand sanitising before visiting or after. If they contracted cov they would pass it on without a care .
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In perfect Time , 2 months ago , ive started different job , still continued taking bookings . Since one month I’m after 23 years out of business . Still having some calls ::) , and make me sick . I’m now going out to work only , and back home . Working in care industry now , have first hand news and informations , and ladies, it’s not worth it . Please stop at least for while . One of my ex clients- doctor, told me to stop immediately , and if I still will decide to take bookings, not washing hands , but proper hot shower they need to take . But the best thing is to stop ASAP . I wish you all good health. Keep yourself safe and don’t risk your life .
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Sorry to hear that LSD. 😟
I had one visitor today, a newbie and we did the no contact thing. Apart from that it was quiet. Couple of calls from guys I wouldn't see and a regular asking if I'm about Friday.
I'm not. I'm hanging up my drawers for a while. I know Johnson is making a statement at half eight probably announcing more measures to get people to stay at home, and I'm really not sure how that will affect those of you still working. 🤔.
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Sorry for your sad news LSD, this is fucking horrible, stay safe everyone x.
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For the next three weeks, at least:
people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes:
* shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible
* one form of exercise a day – for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household;
* any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and
* travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.
Still no word about help for the self-employed, but it's inevitable that it will happen and it's extremely likely to be based on what was declared to HMRC for the past couple of years.
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Anyone know if the closures include hotels ??
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Indeed. I suspect the divorce lawyers of the land and possibly the patio building supply places are gearing up for a busy time too.
Hooray for a sense of humour ;D
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Anyone know if the closures include hotels ??
No..
we will immediately:
* close all shops selling non-essential goods, including clothing and electronic stores and other premises including libraries, playgrounds and outdoor gyms, and places of worship;
* we will stop all gatherings of more than two people in public – excluding people you live with;
* and we’ll stop all social events, including weddings, baptisms and other ceremonies, but excluding funerals.
But the bits about..
You should not be meeting friends. If your friends ask you to meet, you should say No.
You should not be meeting family members who do not live in your home.
.. mean that they really don't think providing an incall location is on the list of permitted activities.
(It has been fascinating seeing places like Germany and Greece go '.. and brothels' in the list of closures.)
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For the next three weeks, at least:
Still no word about help for the self-employed, but it's inevitable that it will happen and it's extremely likely to be based on what was declared to HMRC for the past couple of years.
Been self employed for many years and know how it feels to be unsecured and having financial worry. Another few days won’t kill me. Fingers crossed they will start to do something about us and finally give us some answers.
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whats eveyone doing about work after this announcement tonight ?
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I think our clients may have a tough time explaining why they feel seeing us is essential, when they are stopped from roaming around.
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It's to be reviewed in three weeks. I'm not working, but then I have a buffer and can survive.
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Anyone know if the closures include hotels ??
Ah, it's in the full guidance that's just been published. Closures include:
hotels, hostels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, caravan parks, and boarding houses for
commercial/leisure use (excluding permanent residents and key workers).
Applies for at least three weeks from now.
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Ah, it's in the full guidance that's just been published. Closures include:
Applies for at least three weeks from now.
Thank you xw5 :-*
Very useful info. Personally not for work purposes but had something coming up next week and will be cancelling.
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Got to look on the brightside, the punters can't spend any money on pubs, bookies, sporting events etc so when the virus is over/ under control, we will all be super busy as they'll have money in their pockets and purple balls!!!
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I have been inadvertently stockpiling webcams over the past few years, I'll be ok ;D
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Okay great im fucked. Can’t live in £95 sick pay that’s ridiculous.
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whats eveyone doing about work after this announcement tonight ?
Nothing to think about. Nobody should be seeing clients.
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Okay great im fucked. Can’t live in £95 sick pay that’s ridiculous.
I'd be pretty happy to get £95 a week even just to put a small dent in things, but then I'm not eligible for anything (in common with a fair few self employed people who own property that counts as capital, despite it being neither edible nor legal tender for paying bills with, I would suspect).
There are still people advertising rooms/incall places in Seeking/Offering here including some that have been posted pretty recently. I would say that anybody planning to continue after this evening might want to bear in mind that you're not exactly going to be hard to track down, and we as yet have no idea how the fines discussed will be applied.
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Okay great im fucked. Can’t live in £95 sick pay that’s ridiculous.
If you get your rent paid through the DWP on top of the £95 then it’s really not that bad, you just have to be extremely thrifty! I have lived on less believe me.
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Okay great im fucked. Can’t live in £95 sick pay that’s ridiculous.
I would be happy to get that tbh at the moment. We only need to buy food gas/ electricity everything else like loans /credit cards/ mortgages can be put on hold if you cannot pay it and nobody needs spending money for going out or getting hair done or nails done or going cinema as everything is closed.
Just being able to survive and eat is enough for now with how things are. I feel sorry for the NHS staff, police, supermarket workers, chemists, probably the army and anyone putting there lives at risk that i have not mentioned that cannot just stay in the house and avoid this.
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I'd be pretty happy to get £95 a week even just to put a small dent in things, but then I'm not eligible for anything (in common with a fair few self employed people who own property that counts as capital, despite it being neither edible nor legal tender for paying bills with, I would suspect).
There are still people advertising rooms/incall places in Seeking/Offering here including some that have been posted pretty recently. I would say that anybody planning to continue after this evening might want to bear in mind that you're not exactly going to be hard to track down, and we as yet have no idea how the fines discussed will be applied.
Amy aren’t you able to get anything from UC because you own your home?
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I'd be pretty happy to get £95 a week even just to put a small dent in things, but then I'm not eligible for anything (in common with a fair few self employed people who own property that counts as capital, despite it being neither edible nor legal tender for paying bills with, I would suspect).
There are still people advertising rooms/incall places in Seeking/Offering here including some that have been posted pretty recently. I would say that anybody planning to continue after this evening might want to bear in mind that you're not exactly going to be hard to track down, and we as yet have no idea how the fines discussed will be applied.
I'm not so sure that owning the property you live in affects the income part of UC, only that there'd be no rent component - but I could be wrong. Obviously a check with the relevant organisations, and DWP/UC websites would confirm that.
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Until the announcement I was up for working, but now definitely not. What would scare me is if an undercover reporter were to book and do a sensationalist tabloid story about hookers disobeying the isolation rules and ending up with my mug splashed all over the gutter press! Yep a bit dramatic, but could happen :-\
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I'm not so sure that owning the property you live in affects the income part of UC, only that there'd be no rent component - but I could be wrong. Obviously a check with the relevant organisations, and DWP/UC websites would confirm that.
I'm not talking about my home though, I'm talking about my work flat. The one I own in my home town, rather than the one I rent in a lovely part of Central London, which obviously is also very sensibly priced ;D (and for which I'll sell a bastard kidney before I give it up). Oh, and I do own my home as well, so three lots each of bills and Council Tax for me. But moaning like fuck about it won't help, and lots of people are far worse off.
Until the announcement I was up for working, but now definitely not. What would scare me is if an undercover reporter were to book and do a sensationalist tabloid story about hookers disobeying the isolation rules and ending up with my mug splashed all over the gutter press! Yep a bit dramatic, but could happen :-\
I considered the authorities poking through ads, but not this. That is a truly horrendous thought indeed and I don't think it's dramatic at all.
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Oh I hadn’t even thought of journalists making fake appointments! Very possible indeed, journalists love to shame us as it is and we would start getting the blame for all CV cases if they did this, I could see that happening. Well that’s me unavailable until the foreseeable. :'(
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Got to look on the brightside, the punters can't spend any money on pubs, bookies, sporting events etc so when the virus is over/ under control, we will all be super busy as they'll have money in their pockets and purple balls!!!
I am not too optimistic. Where will punters get that money? Businesses are shutting down everyday and going bankrupt, people getting laid off everywhere. Stocks have plunged. It will take some time for things to go back to a "normal" state, I estimate a year at least. The global economy is in a dire state. Fed is printing trillions of dollars to keep the ship afloat but that money will go to corporations not the average Joe. The dollar will most likely be devalued in the process. They estimate unemployment will be at 30% very soon in the US. That can't be good for us. 4 of my regulars are out of work since last week and scrambling for Centrelink right now, there are probably loads more of my clients in the same situation but I won't know as I am the last thing on their mind.
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Just read all your messages, so very reassuring as I was worried what to do as I keep getting booking requests still!! Hate letting people down but this is a very serious situation we are in just now and we all need to be safe as frustrating as it is. Thank you ladies for your very helpful comments. A x
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I'd be pretty happy to get £95 a week even just to put a small dent in things, but then I'm not eligible for anything (in common with a fair few self employed people who own property that counts as capital, despite it being neither edible nor legal tender for paying bills with, I would suspect).
There are still people advertising rooms/incall places in Seeking/Offering here including some that have been posted pretty recently. I would say that anybody planning to continue after this evening might want to bear in mind that you're not exactly going to be hard to track down, and we as yet have no idea how the fines discussed will be applied.
Thanks for the heads up I did not even think of this. I will put a note on my AW advert and I have edited the one here to say long term live in accommodation only. I am sure this keeps me within the new rules but if anyone knows/thinks different please let me know thanks x
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Thanks for the heads up I did not even think of this. I will put a note on my AW advert and I have edited the one here to say long term live in accommodation only. I am sure this keeps me within the new rules but if anyone knows/thinks different please let me know thanks x
I didn't think of that either. I was talking about the people who still want to continue working in the event the hotels shut and how they might find places to do so - the people who will likely now be lining up to take full advantage will be getting very short shrift if they decide to take the piss on here, at least. Either way, helping people rent places out is not what the forum is for.
What is dwp? Xx is rent going to be put on hold like what’s going to happen if we can’t make rent ? Xx
Legislation to protect renters from being evicted if they can't pay due to loss of income was one of the first things that was announced.
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I didn't think of that either. I was talking about the people who still want to continue working in the event the hotels shut and how they might find places to do so - the people who will likely now be lining up to take full advantage will be getting very short shrift if they decide to take the piss on here, at least. Either way, helping people rent places out is not what the forum is for.
Legislation to protect renters from being evicted if they can't pay due to loss of income was one of the first things that was announced.
I have put a note on to say its not available for short term let but if you want to delete the whole advert off work away.. The only reason its being let in the first place is because the escort is pregnant with leukaemia and i was helping her out looking after it while she recovered so she had an incall place to come back to and not lose everything while in recovery. I am certainly not some rich landlord with numerous properties taking the piss. I have been helping her out by letting a room from her myself occasionally and while she is ill I am trying my best to help in what ever way i can because to have the stress on losing her incall on top of everything else is not what she needs. I thought this was a place to help and support sex workers. Everything was going back to pay her rent and help with bills. Not everyone is in it to make a quick ££££ on the back of someone else but thanks for the heads up anyway it was appreciated.
A lot of normal escorts will be struggling to pay the rent on their incall places so renting a room out a few days a week does not automatically shift them into being a Greedy landlord. Times like this we should be offering each other as much support as possible
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What is dwp? Xx is rent going to be put on hold like what’s going to happen if we can’t make rent ? Xx
The DWP is the department of work and pensions. You can claim benefits from them if you are sick or not working. Depending on what part of the country you are in you may be able to claim universal credit from them which will have an housing element in which will help with your rent otherwise you can claim housing benefit through your local council along side council tax support. This link may help you https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/how-to-claim
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who is going to carry on now ?
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who is going to carry on now ?
I'm sure some people will and that is their choice as far as I'm concerned. Safer having one on one sex than standing in the middle of a busy supermarket where people ignoring the two meter rule....maybe. Ideally no one will but different people different situations.
Edited to add. Mind you, just looked online and quite a lot available today which isn't good. I've just put Currently Unavailable on my profile.
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I reckon once this is over and the media are looking for angles to stretch cv stories out "how CV changed my life" etc, they might write about sex workers. I said this to someone a week ago. I bet some are browsing this thread.
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I’ve received text messages which doesn’t seem fake and comes from Uk_Gov (that sort of message when you cannot see the number). Message says:
GOV.UK CORONAVIRUS ALERT
New rules in force now: you must stay at home. More info & exemptions at gov dot uk/coronavirus Stay at home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.
Anyone who is still working, thinking about ways to work is pure ignorant.
who is going to carry on now ?
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[ople rent places out is not what the forum is for.
Legislation to protect renters from being evicted if they can't pay due to loss of income was one of the first things that was announced.
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Ah okay so do we just message our landlord and say we can’t make rent because of loss of income as I’m self employed and he just can’t do anything about it ?
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I didn't think of that either. I was talking about the people who still want to continue working in the event the hotels shut and how they might find places to do so - the people who will likely now be lining up to take full advantage will be getting very short shrift if they decide to take the piss on here, at least. Either way, helping people rent places out is not what the forum is for.
Legislation to protect renters from being evicted if they can't pay due to loss of income was one of the first things that was announced.
The DWP is the department of work and pensions. You can claim benefits from them if you are sick or not working. Depending on what part of the country you are in you may be able to claim universal credit from them which will have an housing element in which will help with your rent otherwise you can claim housing benefit through your local council along side council tax support. This link may help you https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/how-to-claim
[ople rent places out is not what the forum is for.
Legislation to protect renters from being evicted if they can't pay due to loss of income was one of the first things that was announced.
Ah okay so do we just message our landlord and say we can’t make rent because of loss of income as I’m self employed and he just can’t do anything about it ?
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I’ve received text messages which doesn’t seem fake and comes from Uk_Gov (that sort of message when you cannot see the number). Message says:
GOV.UK CORONAVIRUS ALERT
New rules in force now: you must stay at home. More info & exemptions at gov dot uk/coronavirus Stay at home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.
Anyone who is still working, thinking about ways to work is pure ignorant.
I received it too this morning.
There’s 952 girls with their ‘available today’ light on Adultwork! :FF
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The gov.uk text is genuine it's on the BBC news website.
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Ladies I have just had my telephone interview with universal credit. I was given £1200 crisis loan (in my bank immediately) to get me to the first payment date.
I now have a second phone interview by the self employed team on Monday. They are paying self employed up to £2900 a month depending on the last years tax return.
So in short if your paying your taxes you will be looked after.
If you were on a low self employed tax return that will also be looked at and they will make up your payments there to what ever the basic rates of universal credit are.
I am a single mum of one child who has been self employed all my life. They told me if the holiday clubs re open before the schools in September they will pay 80 percent of that as well.
So ladies don’t delay go to the government web sight and get what your owed then you will not need to work until it’s safe to do so.
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Ladies I have just had my telephone interview with universal credit. I was given £1200 crisis loan (in my bank immediately) to get me to the first payment date.
I now have a second phone interview by the self employed team on Monday. They are paying self employed up to £2900 a month depending on the last years tax return.
So in short if your paying your taxes you will be looked after.
If you were on a low self employed tax return that will also be looked at and they will make up your payments there to what ever the basic rates of universal credit are.
I am a single mum of one child who has been self employed all my life. They told me if the holiday clubs re open before the schools in September they will pay 80 percent of that as well.
So ladies don’t delay go to the government web sight and get what your owed then you will not need to work until it’s safe to do so.
Did you explain that you’re a sex workers ? Or did you say you’re whatever you’ve put on your tax details.
Loan meaning you’ll have to pay it back?
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Emergency loan means they just take a small amount out of whatever benefit you will get per month to be paid back in 12 months.
So sex workers should get some self employed money depending on earnings declared. So anyone not been declaring will be in the shit but most of us will get some help.
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Ive rang re UC this morning and it's cutting me off. But I've filled in the online information which was easy and I'm now having to verify with a site they sent me to. I'm in a queue of over 30816 but they will email me once I'm nearing the top.
Edited to add correct number.
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I just read an interesting medical article relating to viral load, it is pertinent to those who are still working regarding being exposed to shedding from various people.
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We don't allow links, and if people want general medical information there are plenty of useful sites where they can find it themselves. Once again (and for the first time in a few pages), please keep posts related to sex work.
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So sex workers should get some self employed money depending on earnings declared. So anyone not been declaring will be in the shit but most of us will get some help.
Most/some will, yes. Those of us who don't fit the bill for reasons already mentioned can get to fuck, at least until they come up with some proper measures for self employed people.
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I would like to know too if anyone talking to universal credit are saying that they are sex workers or something else? I have my telephone interview tomorrow and am very nervous
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I would like to know too if anyone talking to universal credit are saying that they are sex workers or something else? I have my telephone interview tomorrow and am very nervous
Why would you not say you're a sex worker - surely there can't be many jobs where it's more obvious why you can't work? That said, provided they get the information they need I doubt they're even interested :)
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I would like to know too if anyone talking to universal credit are saying that they are sex workers or something else? I have my telephone interview tomorrow and am very nervous
I spoke to my accountant and he will do it on my behalf. If you do have accountant it may be worth it to give him call and he will help you to go through it. Something what may be hard for us is very easy for accountant and he won’t charge you much.
He advised me to apply for UC and lets see how legislation change. We may be eligible to get more then 90 odd a week but it’s in early stages.
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If you are worried about saying you're a sex worker, just say you work in porn. That's what I've been saying, and they didn't probe further. I've been approved UC too. I have my second interview today x
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Everybody's circumstances are different and nobody should be judging others in this awful pandemic. We do what we can and what we have to do.
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You say whatever you have registered on your tax return whether that be sex worker/ escort/ massage therapist etc
Now you cannot even do it by phone all has to be online and some of the waiting time could be 8 hrs to verify the i.d so what happens then if the internet cuts out or the device freezes you lose your place?. What a huge mess.
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You say whatever you have registered on your tax return whether that be sex worker/ escort/ massage therapist etc
Now you cannot even do it by phone all has to be online and some of the waiting time could be 8 hrs to verify the i.d so what happens then if the internet cuts out or the device freezes you lose your place?. What a huge mess.
I agree. The system is under immense pressure though. Hopefully it'll improve over the coming weeks, once people are sorted.
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I would like to know too if anyone talking to universal credit are saying that they are sex workers or something else? I have my telephone interview tomorrow and am very nervous
Universal credit are not concerned with your job title. This is about what you earn and what your rent is and children you have in your household. It’s worked out on those figures alone.
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I agree. The system is under immense pressure though. Hopefully it'll improve over the coming weeks, once people are sorted.
I know it may be a little bit OT but after chatting to my accountant there is 74.200 in the queue.
I dont think anyone is interested if you're sex worker or plumber. They are trying to deal with all enquiries as quickly as they can.
Anyone who is filling up application, keep saving it. Website is overloaded and yes it keeps cutting off.
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My return says Escort and that is what I'll be telling whomever needs to know, if they need to know if I need or want to make any claims. Have done so on last foray into DWP which was actually enough to put me off going anywhere near them again.
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Everybody's circumstances are different and nobody should be judging others in this awful pandemic. We do what we can and what we have to do.
Good to see you pop up, LB (my brain is trying to keep track of who hasn't been on and posting for a bit that normally is ;)).
It's maybe not a bad time to suggest that if anybody is concerned about another member who they might have been in occasional contact with and haven't spotted for a bit, do let me know and I can possibly check some of the stuff only we can see that might indicate if they've been about :)
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So basically any sex worker that is financially not too bad for next few weeks should hold off doing this online til it calms down as the website cannot handle it.
I already know somebody who got near the end yesterday got given a pin and it cut her off so she was locked out and you cannot try again til another 24hrs.
What an absolute mess and the system badly designed to wait that long to upload the i.d. Would be better you get the go ahead for funds to go in your account and if there is a problem with the i.d they contact you when they can.
The system cannot handle this amount of people.
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They are paying self employed up to £2900 a month depending on the last years tax return.
So in short if your paying your taxes you will be looked after.
This is not correct! An amendment was proposed to this effect but was voted down. The government is going to announce something by Friday
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Hi ladies,
Wow with everything going on!!
How is everyone surviving financially!?
It’s not as if I can do webcam with partner working from home now!!! :FF
All well known branded hotels are literally being closed now and this is what I rely on really to earn money to be honest.
Really starting to panic, I know I’m not the only escort out there worrying about this but the girls that do just work from hotels, what are you all planning on doing now?
Loads of love xx
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Hi ladies,
Wow with everything going on!!
How is everyone surviving financially!?
It’s not as if I can do webcam with partner working from home now!!! :FF
All well known branded hotels are literally being closed now and this is what I rely on really to earn money to be honest.
Really starting to panic, I know I’m not the only escort out there worrying about this but the girls that do just work from hotels, what are you all planning on doing now?
Loads of love xx
Hi, i am a fellow touring (only) escort. I am stuck at home and have applied for universal credit. I have 2 kids. They let me have an advance instantly into my bank of up to £800. After that I will receive about 825 per mth( minus 69 a mth to pay back the advance over next 12 mths). I also phoned my mortgage lender and have taken up the 3 mth payment break.
Apart from that I can't do much at all right now. A lovely client sent me some email vouchers for supermarket shops today. I am just hoping the government will give us more help in the next few days as I won't manage on 760 quid for long when my mortgage is 600.
I was told I can't get benefit assistance to help pay the mortgage until I have been claiming universal credits for 9 months.
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Yup, similar news for me too today, my twin!
Rent is £800pcm and I'm getting £722 for rent and all of my expenses combined, they also said I have to see how much council tax I can get in addition to this... not all of it!!?
I'm also touring only, living in a very small and close knit community, working from home is impossible for me.
Sort it out Boris!!!!!!
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Praying that in 3 weeks things should start changing for the best
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Is it still legal to escort during restriction/
Lockdown?
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This is not correct! An amendment was proposed to this effect but was voted down. The government is going to announce something by Friday
Red, interesting! I missed that could you clarify please thanks :)
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Red, interesting! I missed that could you clarify please thanks :)
Not sure what you mean. The self employed proposal was put forward by the Lib Dems but parliament didn't get a chance to vote on it. The government are yet to announce any support for the self employed apart from Universal Credit
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I wasn't aware of the proposal. Thanks for clarifying, gosh.
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A lot of hotels in London are closed to the public
They plan house the homeless and key workers
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Is it still legal to escort during restriction/
Lockdown?
Technically yes but the government guidelines are not to visit anyone who does not live with you, and to keep 2m away from anyone who isn't in your household if you do have to go out/meet anyone else. Not to visit anyone's house, or accept visitors to yours.
Police will have powers to warn from tomorrow once the bill goes through. For me explaining why I am driving to a client would be just too much, also conscience now. I saw the hoards out at the weekend, totally taking the P. Also know of younger family members (not in my family) visiting, staying with their parents then off out doing their own stuff going back to their houses and lives. If we all mess around this will get worse.
I saw my family last week we knew we might not see each other again for a long time, that's it all over for a bit.
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Has anyone else had the scene from the Titanic where the ship has sank and Jack and Rose are both clinging to a piece of wood? Jack is shivering 'cos he's in the water, but he's desperately urging Rose not to give up and to hang on in there 'cos the boats will come back for them ...
This is exactly what it's like being self employed at the moment! We're still waiting and waiting for something sensible to be announced. I've got hope and faith at the moment that everything will be okay but I can feel my cynical nature slowly eroding that belief >:(
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Mirror
Thank you.
Confusing times. . .
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This is not correct! An amendment was proposed to this effect but was voted down. The government is going to announce something by Friday
I was told on my universal credit interview that a member of the self employed team is calling me on Monday to put through a completely separate claim to assess my self employed income. They said the interview takes about an hour on the phone. So Im sure the job centres are doing this with everyone once the government have decided this week how much of that income we will get.
I was also told it will be assessed on your most recent tax return.
I am simply relaying what I’ve been told. I’m sure the self employed team at a job centre wouldn’t be able to lie about such things.
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I was told on my universal credit interview that a member of the self employed team is calling me on Monday to put through a completely separate claim to assess my self employed income. They said the interview takes about an hour on the phone. So Im sure the job centres are doing this with everyone once the government have decided this week how much of that income we will get.
I was also told it will be assessed on your most recent tax return.
I am simply relaying what I’ve been told. I’m sure the self employed team at a job centre wouldn’t be able to lie about such things.
When I had my appt with the job centre yesterday and asked about the self employed they knew absolutely nothing about any plan and I don't have any other appointments now,just for the credit to start coming into my bank monthly at the end of April. She said they were as much in the dark as we are.
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Mirror
Thank you.
Confusing times. . .
I'm no angel however there's nothing confusing about not being within 2m of anyone else, although the guidelines say travel to work only if essential (ie work cannot be done at home) it's the bits about not getting close to anyone who doesn't live in your household and the potentially being asked 'where are you going' that have stopped me.
Interesting thing is that due to queues, and unavailability, and staff training going probably re Covid, other people going out for walks for exercise I've been outside yesterday for longer than pre-restrictions and probably spoken to more people than usual. Yes I have kept my distance, however others aren't so good.
Today I have to go try again at a place I couldn't get to because the spread-out-queue was too long, and yes it is medical need.
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That is hugely worrying I have an elderly father I must shop for I don't want him being alone .I've stopped escorting for the time being
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I know it's technically illegal at the minute but is anyone actually still escorting?
I have had an enquiry for Friday but paranoid about doing it incase it's a trap
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I know it's technically illegal at the minute but is anyone actually still escorting?
I have had an enquiry for Friday but paranoid about doing it incase it's a trap
I heard yesterday somebody got thrown out of a hotel yesterday and hotel are passing her details on to the police.
Hotels are only supposed to be used for where people have no where to go and key workers now.
I had 2 enquiries too for outcall i ignored one and sent the other one back loads of hahahahaha
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For reasons too complicated to go into I don’t have a permanent base, which is hellish tricky atm obviously. Mainly I want to know if I can still claim Universal Credit, as I don’t have a permanent address.
Thanks
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I know it's technically illegal at the minute but is anyone actually still escorting?
Had a look at the "A....site".
No mention of Corona situation (yet),
the site looking as if it's running, normally.
News comment on construction workers,
tube over-crowding. . .
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So people are still doing the close contact thing and spreading it around :FF.
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So people are still doing the close contact thing and spreading it around :FF.
It's not possible for everyone to comply, because people are just people.
Also different perceptions of reality and those who just don't access the news, as well as misunderstand the information.
People went to the pub when told they were closing :-\ :'( some are still using' flu and road death comparisons.
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I know it's technically illegal at the minute but is anyone actually still escorting?
Nothing is 'technically' (or untechnically) illegal until you can be arrested and charged for doing it, and since the police have not been given any extra powers yet then like everything else on the Do Not Do list, it remains legal. That does not mean it's a good idea, for lots of reasons already mentioned (journalists being one).
Had a look at the "A....site".
I don't think anybody knows what the 'A....site' is, Regieee - can you please say what you mean and not post in riddles?
So people are still doing the close contact thing and spreading it around :FF.
People who need to get to work are yes, until more trains can be made available, employers stop.forcing people to come in and some provision is made made for the self.employed/freelance.
Now we're going to get back on topic. The twenty million or so online general discussion forums are that way ---->
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im available today on aw, and haven't stopped since the corona started. just now i checked out of curiosity today there are 1008 girls showing as available today including myself.
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im available today on aw, and haven't stopped since the corona started. just now i checked out of curiosity today there are 1008 girls showing as available today including myself.
I daresay at least a proportion will have been hoping to stand out a bit and score some private gallery hits. My profile had featuring on yesterday from booking it a month ago, and I have it again one day next week because I can't find any way to switch it off. I didn't add anything else and my number isn't up, but I still got an extra few picture sales :).
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I daresay at least a proportion will have been hoping to stand out a bit and score some private gallery hits. My profile had featuring on yesterday from booking it a month ago, and I have it again one day next week because I can't find any way to switch it off. I didn't add anything else and my number isn't up, but I still got an extra few picture sales :).
I'm similar too I am declining the few enquiries I receive, often with my now 'standard' Covid-19 text!!
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I've had a couple clownish enquiries last week and ignored, my shop's closed for now.
Today I switched to incredibly happy for this free time and freedom to do what I like within the guidelines. It's priceless. Am enjoying every moment now.
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I've had a couple drippy enquiries and ignored them as bored wasters.
Yep, still getting enquiries mostly wasters! I tell the genuine sounding ones to save my number and book when the situation is better.
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To be honest I'm embracing the quietness and the break from it all so guess I should say no, never mind anything else
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To be honest I'm embracing the quietness and the break from it all so guess I should say no, never mind anything else
I don't know if this is any help to anyone but had this sent to me
https://www.swarmcollective.org/hardship-fund
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I was told on my universal credit interview that a member of the self employed team is calling me on Monday to put through a completely separate claim to assess my self employed income. They said the interview takes about an hour on the phone. So Im sure the job centres are doing this with everyone once the government have decided this week how much of that income we will get.
I was also told it will be assessed on your most recent tax return.
I am simply relaying what I’ve been told. I’m sure the self employed team at a job centre wouldn’t be able to lie about such things.
That's to do with you UC claim, it's nothing to do with any additional support outside of the UC system
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That's to do with you UC claim, it's nothing to do with any additional support outside of the UC system
I thought so too - that would be because there isn't any, at least not yet. Fingers crossed for tomorrow (or Friday, or whenever they finally pull their bloody fingers out) :).
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UC is pretty much useless if you have some savings. This is the first and last time in my life I've applied for this crap.
Scraping my application and waiting for "big news" and self employment package or whatever they going to call it. Fingers crossed x
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Hi guys and been lurking and checking how other girls are coping with the lockdown. I'm in Essex and stopped working immediately when lockdown was announced, I rent two places, Two kids to support and no financial help from ex husband family. Iuckily I saved a bit but going to make a loss on my high monthly rent on work flat. Any opinions on how this is going to affect future work? [off topic content redacted] this lockdown is going to cause massive financial difficulties. I feel for everyone struggling and the unknown for our future.
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How has anyone managed to get through to UC I’ve tried a dozen time just today and it keeps cutting me off ...
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How has anyone managed to get through to UC I’ve tried a dozen time just today and it keeps cutting me off ...
Can’t you apply online and they may call you back?
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Any opinions on how this is going to affect future work?...this lockdown is going to cause massive financial difficulties. I feel for everyone struggling and the unknown for our future.
Hi Bettyboo29,
I think you answered your own question. This is going to cause massive financial difficulties. Even when the covid19 travel/lockdown restrictions are lifted, the virus will still be around. There's no vaccine until 12-18 months from now, which means many clients will not want to take the risk.
In the most optimistic scenario, our regular clients will be back after lockdown. But I don't think clients have the money to book as much as they did before. As others have mentioned, the economy need time to recover. It will be like working through a recession for us. For how long, I don't know. I am mentally prepared for 18 months of the coronavirus affecting bookings and the recession.
I cope by working online to cover rent and food. Maybe a self employment package will help escorts denied UC, but I don't rely on that.
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Can’t you apply online and they may call you back?
Doesn’t seem so? I have to call to set up a phone call interview.
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Doesn’t seem so? I have to call to set up a phone call interview.
You normally can I think but obviously things are different now.
I have just applied for 3 supermarket jobs as they’re hiring just now so chances of me getting a job right now are quite high, hopefully I’ll get kept on afterward as I want out of this game, for a least a year anyway as I’m burnt out.
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Hi philippa and it is going to be hard times ahead and I crept up my rates over a year and will now have to go down. Annoyingly I know a group of undesirable men that wont pay the rates I charge will love the fact that out of this us girls will be cheaper. But our rents and family financial commitments will not be less and I predict everything will go up.
Anyone tried webcamming yet, I tried it once and failed at it. Would this be a way to make money now?
I have a agreement on my work flat until May and although I managed with regulars to make the rent for next week and just. I may need to share my flat in the future.
Us girls need to stick together now. Last year I had trouble with a stalker which cost me 3 grand loss from work and blackmail. My ex stopped paying any money for our kids and if I go to the csa will tell them and others I'm a "Whore" in his words.
I'm hoping that guys, Regulars will stick with us. Not to judge but I know many of my regulars will look at the fact I stopped working with outbreak as a reason to come back.
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Hi philippa and it is going to be hard times ahead and I crept up my rates over a year and will now have to go down. Annoyingly I know a group of undesirable men that wont pay the rates I charge will love the fact that out of this us girls will be cheaper. But our rents and family financial commitments will not be less and I predict everything will go up.
Anyone tried webcamming yet, I tried it once and failed at it. Would this be a way to make money now?
I have a agreement on my work flat until May and although I managed with regulars to make the rent for next week and just. I may need to share my flat in the future.
Us girls need to stick together now. Last year I had trouble with a stalker which cost me 3 grand loss from work and blackmail. My ex stopped paying any money for our kids and if I go to the csa will tell them and others I'm a "Whore" in his words.
I'm hoping that guys, Regulars will stick with us. Not to judge but I know many of my regulars will look at the fact I stopped working with outbreak as a reason to come back.
Sadly there are many men out there who are going to take advantage of us lowering rates, which is very frustrating and off-putting. I've stopped offering escorting now, and am giving webcam a go. It seems to be working out really well though - and long may it continue!
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Too many and I have had to get rid of my work phone WhatsApp now guys think that now I'm not having sex often that they need to sext me and send walking and penis pics lol
I will give camming a go
Can it be done silent. I live with two teenagers and I can lock myself in my room but no naughty talk.
Is it easy to set up webcamming on AW. I got a laptop bit suppose I need a webcam.
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Sadly there are many men out there who are going to take advantage of us lowering rates, which is very frustrating and off-putting. I've stopped offering escorting now, and am giving webcam a go. It seems to be working out really well though - and long may it continue!
There only take advantage of lower prices if you lower the prices in the first place. When i go back i will not be lowering any prices they get too much as it is in my opinion for what they pay.
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There only take advantage of lower prices if you lower the prices in the first place. When i go back i will not be lowering any prices they get too much as it is in my opinion for what they pay.
Totally agree. My services gets limited and I won’t be offering as much as I did before corona. My health comes first then money.
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You normally can I think but obviously things are different now.
I have just applied for 3 supermarket jobs as they’re hiring just now so chances of me getting a job right now are quite high, hopefully I’ll get kept on afterward as I want out of this game, for a least a year anyway as I’m burnt out.
With all due respect I wouldn’t get your hopes up too high, supermarkets are obvious going to be inundated with applicants and there won’t be jobs for everybody. I hope you get lucky, but need to just be realistic it won’t be a given
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How has anyone managed to get through to UC I’ve tried a dozen time just today and it keeps cutting me off ...
Hi Eve,
I've been in the queue for two hours this afternoon and just gave up. There's no message telling you where you are in the queue do no idea how long we have to wait. I might try tomorrow morning.
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Hi Eve,
I've been in the queue for two hours this afternoon and just gave up. There's no message telling you where you are in the queue do no idea how long we have to wait. I might try tomorrow morning.
Half a million people have made claims. No ones getting through. Ridiculous. And a 5 weeks wait til any payment, apart from advance payments if you can explain your situation - having no kids etc I doubt I’ll get that tho.
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I applied through the website, and then they gave me two phone interviews with the JC. I think I must have got in before the mad rush, but I won't get paid till the 14th of next month.
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For anyone that has to wait on the UC payments for 5 weeks; people in Scotland can get a Scottish Welfare Fund payment and it’s paid in a crisis and I count now as a crisis, your entitled to 3 a year and it’s not to be paid back, it replaces the old crisis loan that the DWP used to give out but it’s the councils in the area that you call for it now, of course the DWP don’t tell you about it.
I am unsure about the rest of the UK though.
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I've moved posts about the announcement of the 'Self-Employed Income Support Scheme' to their own thread - https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/help-for-(some-of)-the-self-employed-announcement-at-last-uk/ (https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/help-for-(some-of)-the-self-employed-announcement-at-last-uk/) - because it's definitely a different topic.
The other benefits ones may end up in their own thread too, depending on how much work that is, but we can keep 'effect on bookings' posts here and 'benefits' posts there from now on.
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Anyway I wanted to bring up the discussion of rates. Wide opinion is that due to financial difficulties, Job loss and ongoing fear that even after we get all clear to resume work, We will struggle. Will we have to lower prices due to the financial problems family guys will have from job cutbacks and panic buying on credit. Obviously we are all taking massive loss financially so to put up prices makes sense for us. I'm sure restaurants, Pubs and most companies will raise prices to make up for the loss of closing for business.
Just something that is playing on my mind. I first started at £100 and hour being nieve and not knowing anything about pricing. Then went to £120 and was having 50 calls a day. Then a reg8said I was too cheap for being a British girl so went to £150 an hour. Recently this year I was at £190 and doing ok and I found at that price better clients and my regulars did not complain.
So now I'm thinking the smart thing is to go back down to £150. [off.topicncontemt removed]. But still us girls put ourselves at a higher risk and we don't all get to work hours a day with family to care for. I myself have 2 kids with mental health problems and a ex who will not pay a penny.
I don't think webcam is going to be lucrative now so many have had to turn to it. And direct chat is dead.
Thoughts on future rates, Will we have to drop?
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And hope it's ok to add long posts. I been escorting alone for so long and if I had been given advice from experience ladies in the beginning, I don't think I would of ended up in some of the bad situations I did.
Thanks Betty x
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Anyway I wanted to bring up the discussion of rates. Wide opinion is that due to financial difficulties, Job loss and ongoing fear that even after we get all clear to resume work, We will struggle. Will we have to lower prices due to the financial problems family guys will have from job cutbacks and panic buying on credit. Obviously we are all taking massive loss financially so to put up prices makes sense for us. I'm sure restaurants, Pubs and most companies will raise prices to make up for the loss of closing for business.
Just something that is playing on my mind. I first started at £100 and hour being nieve and not knowing anything about pricing. Then went to £120 and was having 50 calls a day. Then a reg8said I was too cheap for being a British girl so went to £150 an hour. Recently this year I was at £190 and doing ok and I found at that price better clients and my regulars did not complain.
So now I'm thinking the smart thing is to go back down to £150. [off.topicncontemt removed]. But still us girls put ourselves at a higher risk and we don't all get to work hours a day with family to care for. I myself have 2 kids with mental health problems and a ex who will not pay a penny.
I don't think webcam is going to be lucrative now so many have had to turn to it. And direct chat is dead.
Thoughts on future rates, Will we have to drop?
Some say there may be an increase, I would guess just as ever I'll find out by trial and error.
Some punters will be on the same wage, I have clients who are on pensions and or benefits some of which won't change. Also some may change jobs into priority sectors. Less eating out, less going to the pub could result in reduced outgoings of course these may be made up by the panic buying ::)
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My profile clearly shows I’m not available, yet I had a query for today.
My first thought - it’s a journalist.
My second thought - no a dumbass punter!
What BettyBoo says - yes I figured that there would be a blacklist going on not just in the punting forum community but generally. Well I’m taking note of any queries I get during lockdown too!
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Anyway I wanted to bring up the discussion of rates. Wide opinion is that due to financial difficulties, Job loss and ongoing fear that even after we get all clear to resume work, We will struggle. Will we have to lower prices due to the financial problems family guys will have from job cutbacks and panic buying on credit. Obviously we are all taking massive loss financially so to put up prices makes sense for us. I'm sure restaurants, Pubs and most companies will raise prices to make up for the loss of closing for business.
Just something that is playing on my mind. I first started at £100 and hour being nieve and not knowing anything about pricing. Then went to £120 and was having 50 calls a day. Then a reg8said I was too cheap for being a British girl so went to £150 an hour. Recently this year I was at £190 and doing ok and I found at that price better clients and my regulars did not complain.
So now I'm thinking the smart thing is to go back down to £150. [off.topicncontemt removed]. But still us girls put ourselves at a higher risk and we don't all get to work hours a day with family to care for. I myself have 2 kids with mental health problems and a ex who will not pay a penny.
I don't think webcam is going to be lucrative now so many have had to turn to it. And direct chat is dead.
Thoughts on future rates, Will we have to drop?
I too have had loads of clients texting me to say well done for not working and putting that clearly on your profile.
And it’s true what you say the clients are making lists of ladies who are still working and won’t be seeing them first after this goes away.
I think there will he less girls for a while when we go back to work lots have flown home some won’t be able to afford to tour due to being low on funds. I would say we would have the upper hand.
What’s the point in starting your rates low and then going up they won’t like that. Better to start high see the demand for a week or two then reduce if you need too.
It’s all supply and demand if there are less girls then before, prices would stick at a higher rate. And if there are loads of girls going cheap it will tip the scale the other way.
We won’t know until the virus has gone and that could be after Xmas if they sat there is a second wave coming in the winter time.
I hope to god this virus burns itself out and we can get back to normal very soon.
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My profile clearly shows I’m not available, yet I had a query for today.
My first thought - it’s a journalist.
My second thought - no a dumbass punter!
What BettyBoo says - yes I figured that there would be a blacklist going on not just in the punting forum community but generally. Well I’m taking note of any queries I get during lockdown too!
I have removed escorting and my phone number from my profile and put a blog and explained it's for the entire time of the virus situation, I am still getting asked for bookings. Some are being very sneaky saying they researching, they are clearly not, they are kerb crawling the Internet and hoping someone says yes.
What I have also said in my profile is I will name and shame every client who asks for a booking and expose their details, phone numbers and AW usernames and they are banned for life in blogs that Are not on AW that they cannot complain about and get removed. I am also already sharing these details with several colleagues.
This isn't like a bad strain of an STD going around that you can choose to limit work or change this is a life threatening plague. I personally feel anyone floun in the not stay at home rules, shouldn't be fined, they should be put on a list and refused medical attention should have they catch the virus. That goes for clients and the many people who still have their green lights on and are working. Although I am would be happier if the police who are going around shutting pubs down and removing licenses would also book these people and remove them from working too.
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I've already had my regulars comment on how happy they are to see I have stated not available while CV lockdown is on.
Will AW take "escort" off and make us reverify if we mention this on our profiles? I want to untick the option but I don't want to have to faff about reverifying
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Very sneaky but punters are testing girls and asking if available. I have had a few text and tell them straight that it's a big NO. Now stated on my profile and blog that i will not be available and if anyone ask me they will be blocked.
But right now quite a few girls in my local area are still available either young girls early twenties or non british. And instead of those disgruntled punters who normally slag off high rates are now outing and slagging off girls who they text to test if available. Unfortunately and I feel for, But many ladies really do need the money. And I am lucky to off put emergency money to one side but I will be down 3 grand on rent and Bill's.
But I agree with the posts, Need to see how things pan out. And the smart and sensible ladies who are not available should find a respect from regulars and possible new clients. Definitely going to be hard this year.
I may share my flat to help with rent as it may be quiet anyway and in the past I have shared with another girl but prefer to Normally work alone, Very discreet and no drama.
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I think it's ok to mention you will not be working during this virus. AW should encourage responsible behaviour. Obviously they must be feeling the loss with no one spending on feature page, Available and taking phone numbers off profiles.
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Alien
I think it's ok to mention you will not be working during this virus. AW should encourage responsible behaviour. Obviously they must be feeling the loss with no one spending on feature page, Available and taking phone numbers off profiles.
I have already put up notices i am not working at the moment. But no full on details as it is obvious why i am not working anytime soon.
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Hi there all - been on the forum in the past but decided to join back up now that I am bored from not working and social distancing. I also understand that there are some punters contacting women to see if they'll agree to bookings in ordered to 'catch them out'. I've stopped working but I know there are some women who have particular situations, such as only working part time and have debts or what have you, and so have no savings and feel like they have to work. Its not their fault that the benefits system is not fit for purpose, has this ridiculous wait on getting funds all designed to dissuade people from sticking with their application. And yes you can get a loan if you get through but I have to wait until the end of the first week of April for my interview, there are that many people waiting. I hate all this social surveillance behaviour as well, its not healthy or helpful.
I'm still worried because even though I get all my income from escorting I am a full time student who wasn't entitled to grants or anything and so I have to wait to hear if Universal Credit will accept me, because under normal circumstances they wouldn't and if so I am going to have to hope that camming is at least profitable (which I doubt as more people offering it and lots of married men will be at home with wives and kids so difficulty in getting online, plus money worries for some people) because my savings are limited as I only escort part time around my studies. Trying times.
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On top of which some of the women on adultwork will be being coerced and pimped or trafficked and won't have much say in whether they continue to work or not, judging those women or even refusing them and other vulnerable people (like homeless people who have little choice but to break lockdown) medical attention would be diabolical.
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Can we move on, please? I can see I'ce already got some tidying to do and slagging off other sex workers is (as mentioned countless times) not what we're here for..As ever, 'I would...' is fine. 'You/they should...' is not.
As for speculating about what punters might be doing and why somebody might have an 'available' sign on their AW profile (maybe to make their profile more visible and drum up some PG sales as has already been mentioned, or maybe because - clutches pearls - they're taking bookings) we can stick to first hand experiences rather than gossip :).
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I've stopped working but I know there are some women who have particular situations, such as only working part time and have debts or what have you, and so have no savings and feel like they have to work. Its not their fault that the benefits system is not fit for purpose, has this ridiculous wait on getting funds all designed to dissuade people from sticking with their application. And yes you can get a loan if you get through but I have to wait until the end of the first week of April for my interview, there are that many people waiting. I hate all this social surveillance behaviour as well, its not healthy or helpful.
Amen to this. The virtue signalling not just here but everywhere generally (and that's bearing in mind I don't use facebook or Twatter, so God knows what the full extent is like) is making me boak. It seems one thing that's still in endless supply is halo polish.
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Anybody else noticed a decline in private gallery sales? I have so thinking camming might also be quiet. Well I'm now only having to wear my M&S comfortable undies lol and make up free days and to hell with shaving and waxing too.
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Some of these men need to get a life if they are simply just checking AW to “catch escorts out”, who the hell do they think they are?! Seeking an appointment with an escort as man and accepting bookings as an escort, are for 2 completely different reasons, the former isn’t a necessity yet the latter is.
I think these men need to find a different hobby for the foreseeable, honestly...
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Will AW take "escort" off and make us reverify if we mention this on our profiles? I want to untick the option but I don't want to have to faff about reverifying
I have unticked/reticked/unticked etc multiple times over the last few years and have never been asked to reverify.
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Yes I am avoiding a lot of social media on this, can't cope with the curtain twitching, calls for the police to drag people about for being perceived to break the rules (how liberals quickly become authoritarians under conditions of anxiety contagion!) and general mud slinging.
I've had a few nice regs contact me to check I'm OK and say they'll schedule in once lockdown is lifted, other than that a few missed calls in the early hours of the morning but I'm not displaying my phone on AW at the mo so. I have a mild cough at present which might be 'it' and so I hope when those retrospective tests come out I can think about getting back to a semblance of normality, if that is how this is going to work.
MY PG sales are non existent at the mo seeing as I don't have much in the way of nudes in there or anything so I think they mostly only get looked at my potential clients so that isn't really happen at the mo.
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I have had a few clients whom I have never met in my life email me about how bored they are whilst on lockdown and hinting at me giving them some ‘naughty’ (hate that word) texts free of charge! I emailed one back and told him “I’m not a fucking sex Samaritan”, I can’t believe they think any sw would actually do this!
One guy asked for a face pic to have so that he can book me when all this is over and I said I had them in my pg and he wrote “well the thing is is that if I pay for your pg then it will show up on my statement as aw” and I wrote back “what the fuck do you expect me to do about it? Why not buy a pay safe card if you really need to see my face for a future booking”, again I have never met him in my life! I also said “what would be in for me if I sent you a pic” and he said “my money when I book you”, I replied that he would be getting a service in exchange for the money and he replied “oh yeah right enough” :FF
It’s so insulting when they think we are stupid, it’s actually them that are stupid for assuming that we are! I shouldn’t have swore at them but I couldn’t help it, can’t be bothered with their shite.
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Thank God for regulars, I have also had some nice messages too. I have nudes in my PG and still a 80 % drop.
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Thank God for regulars, I have also had some nice messages too. I have nudes in my PG and still a 80 % drop.
I don’t think I even want to see regulars in all honesty, I don’t truly know them and some of them are so desperate for sex that they would lie to me just to get a shag. I already have one regular that is gonna get dropped once all of this is over (I mean I’m going to tell him to do one, in a nice way of course😬) due to his texting me every fucking day, yesterday it was “take care please” and I just ignored him like I usually do, I am sick of him thinking we are pals, every night this week around the back of 9pm then he texts me “goodnight xxx” and it’s doing my fucking head right in! He is the type of guy that I suspect has many pals and work colleagues that he gets along with so why can’t he fucking text his pals or colleagues rather than me, he is another deluded one that pays an escort for sex and then thinks that they’re buddies with her after that, it’s almost like they think they have the right to do so as if they just give us money for nothing...god they are so annoying.
He also hinted at a booking a few days ago and I told him no way (I was working at first but deffo not now) and he didn’t reply which makes me think he was very pissed off, we all have that one client that acts like Mr Nice yet you just instinctively know they’re hiding a Mr Horrible underneath...well me thinks he is one of them....and laugh all you like girls at this but I am an avid follower and believer of horoscopes and tarot cards (I don’t believe them all though but I can tell the genuine ones from the charlatans) and in 2 tarot readings that I’ve had in the last 6 weeks then they both said that there is a man around me just now who is considerably older and that I should watch as he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and I seriously think it’s him, he keeps saying in texts that he has never met anyone like me before and that I’m so different, different to what or whom I have no fucking idea but I think he may well get obsessed with me, my gut instinct is barely wrong and I do think he could turn out to be dangerous...
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Thank God for regulars, I have also had some nice messages too. I have nudes in my PG and still a 80 % drop.
Possibly also men spending less time on adult sites if he, wife kids and everyone is at home all day locked in together. I’m going on cam tonight hoping the single guys are online bored because they can’t go to the pub. Meh.
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I think that's most definitely the case. If you dont mind burlesque could you let me know if camming is worth doing. It's something I could try even if to just top up funds to go available when we can go back available.
Thanks and hope you have some success camming. First me tonight after doing a workout and feeding the kids its pjs and a glass/bottle of wine lol
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I think that's most definitely the case. If you dont mind burlesque could you let me know if camming is worth doing. It's something I could try even if to just top up funds to go available when we can go back available.
Thanks and hope you have some success camming. First me tonight after doing a workout and feeding the kids its pjs and a glass/bottle of wine lol
Apparently camming has been crap, especially on adultwork. High commissions and you have to pay for featuring. It's okay to make some credits but not for a living
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Phone chat is dead too. I just don't think guys have any privacy atm.
I had hoped for some PG sales but it's just not happening either.
I'm just looking on the bright side, which will hopefully be a brusque trade between September and Christmas. (I suppose we might be able to tour before then but I think more freedom of movement will occur when the schools go back, fingers crossed).
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From my PG and clips I normally make enough each week to go available 3 times or feature my profile. But I suppose right now guys are at home with partners and possibly kids, Stressing about money and work and that probably kills libido too.
But I still am positively hoping that once we get the all clear guys will be wanting a fix.
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The daily star have run an article saying girls are still working in the pandemic naming Adultwork etc. Oh dear.
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Oh god, I feel a name and shame coming on, surely there are other professions that have physical contact and they’re still working yet they pick on us hookers as per.☹️
Watch out girls, if any of you are still escorting with proof, as in lights on and numbers showing, then some client whose ego you didn’t blow up enough or whose ego you dented, will surely get his ‘revenge’ on you and call some bloody rag! Be safe and only see men you know, like and trust.
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I'll also remind those who were here of the last time we had the pondlife scum of the gutter press crawling all over this forum, when I wound up spending an entire weekend (and seven solid hours at one point) trying to sort out the mess and stem the tidal wave of troll registrations.
Many people, some vulnerable, deleted their accounts for fear of being identified and since we're not going through a similar situation ever again, if there's a repeat we'll take the forum down altogether until it blows over.
The next person to post a press link/URL on this forum gets a month long ban. And to any who might be reading, bear in mind that anything you write about this forum will lead to the above and potentially the temporary loss of online support for people who badly need it. Since Tim Martin has already raised the World's Biggest Cunt bar to unattainable heights, there's no point even trying. So don't.
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I apologise Amy and had no idea that that happened and I only put the link in to quote my comment.
Sorry.
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I apologise Amy and had no idea that that happened and I only put the link in to quote my comment.
Sorry.
No, that's fine. It's a good idea to check whether anything in a post you're quoting breaks the rules, but the twenty minutes I spent this morning tidying up earlier posts in this thread proves yet again that nobody does :)
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Phone chat is dead too. I just don't think guys have any privacy atm.
I had hoped for some PG sales but it's just not happening either.
I'm just looking on the bright side, which will hopefully be a brusque trade between September and Christmas. (I suppose we might be able to tour before then but I think more freedom of movement will occur when the schools go back, fingers crossed).
Your right there I usually get early morning calls but I guess although you can't catch Corona down the phone many do not feel turned on enough and don't have enough privacy .
I am not offering escort services at the moment
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I think now it's a good idea to state on AW profiles that you are not working. I have removed my contact number too. And stated that anyone asking to book during this serious health crisis will be blocked.
Its awful but we know everyone likes a story or a scapegoat not matter the profession.
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And Tease, I also had a really nice guy client and he turned very nasty and stalked me and had stalked other girls. But not until it was too late did I get any gut feelings he was bad.He targets new girls. And I have had to block many clients who start to text me like mates.
Thankfully my regulars have not asked to see me since lockdown.
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I think now it's a good idea to state on AW profiles that you are not working. I have removed my contact number too. And stated that anyone asking to book during this serious health crisis will be blocked.
Its awful but we know everyone likes a story or a scapegoat not matter the profession.
I've left my profile as it is but anyone who emails me will get my auto response saying I'm not working until further notice. I'm not displaying phone number or anything else either.
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I've left my profile as it is but anyone who emails me will get my auto response saying I'm not working until further notice. I'm not displaying phone number or anything else either.
I have 'back soon' or similar to mine, but like you the rest is in the autoreply (and it already says that if my number isn't showing I'm not available or taking calls). I actually got an email yesterday from somebody I'd seen before at some point wishing me well and enquiring about my finances, specifically whether I'd get the 80% self employed money in June or whether I would have earned too much. Jesus wept.
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I think that's most definitely the case. If you dont mind burlesque could you let me know if camming is worth doing. It's something I could try even if to just top up funds to go available when we can go back available.
Thanks and hope you have some success camming. First me tonight after doing a workout and feeding the kids its pjs and a glass/bottle of wine lol
I had a shit time on Cam sadly, got really impatient with it. I suspect its the worse time to start trying it. Last time I did just dom camming and that was better but wasn't great so I put myself in a non fetish category and that was a non starter so if I ever do it again it'll be trying the dom again. I think the pandemic is effecting all sex work at the mo sadly :-[
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That's a shame burlesque. I don't think I will bother, I don't have the patience for it. Have my direct chat available today but not a sausage lol I'm trying not to think too much about the coming months but I still have rent to pay on my work flat until may and
I don't want to give it up incase things pick up. Maybe sell panties and tights, I have loads of sexy undies gathering dust now. One positive to keeping my work flat is if kids are home I can still work. I don't know how long the schools and colleges will be closed.
I prefer the idea of dom camming, I do loads of dom stuff escorting.
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I have changed the tagline on my main ads to say I am not available for the foreseeable future and have changed the text on my homepage and booking page on my personal site to say the same. Originally wasn't going to but have had idiots contacting and when say I'm not working and that no sex worker should be doing visits, it's all "but your ad doesn't say your not working"
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I have had on my profile stated I will not work and taken phone number down but today some guy messaged meon Whatspp "Hi"....Now either he is one of many who will try now to get some kind of contact or sext talk or fishing to see if I will take the bait. Told him straight I will not be working until....
He will be blocked for sure.
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I've taken my phone number down and stated I won't be back until September. My auto response states the same.
Doesn't stop the AW emails from tossers asking me to tour in their area soon. Unbelievable, really.
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For people doing street work, the managed area in Leeds has (temporarily, I think) gone.
yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/politics/holbeck-managed-zone-shut-down-police-stop-all-street-sex-work-leeds-2520961
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BBC report it will be 6 months for our lives to go back to the way it was :(
3 week reviews.
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By pure chance, I closed my business in November to move premises and advertised on my website that I'd re open in March
LOL!
sorry, it's all my fault.
Seriously, I was going to update MY website to say check back in SEptember, but I have now put November with the caveat that I won't be back at work until it's safe even if that's in 2 years time.
I'd say 90% of my clients are over 60 and many are in their 70s and 80s, the older they are the more I enjoy seeing them.
I couldn't risk passing on something that could kill them. A high percentage are extra vulnerable.
Now, I 'm not saying other women should do that - your clients aren't my clients.
What I am saying is that I've really enjoyed working with the vulnerable old guys and that's what I want to do.
It's weird after this business has been a big part of my life for 25 years!!! And now not at all.
It certainly won't be worth my while to open up shop in November if I have to advertise the client is only for the physically fit and young.
Fortunately, I have another side gig going, something completely different and now I'll be putting all my time into that - gotta make it work.
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The age of the gents i see is mostly 50 to 68 and i would avoid seeing those gents. But there is possible hope with the test kits. Not entirely sure as so much is printed daily online so it's not definite. No way can the country continue on lockdown for months so something needs to be done to check those cv free and those with antibodies from already having CV.
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I've made it clear on my profile I am not working at present but still get a few contacts, but I think one for sure was trying to 'catch me out'. Get a bleedin'hobby :FF
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I've made it clear on my profile I am not working at present but still get a few contacts, but I think one for sure was trying to 'catch me out'. Get a bleedin'hobby :FF
Catch YOU out!!
If anybody thinks escorts should not be working oroffered any medical help if they catch the virus and want them prosecuted by police then what do they think of AW? Will they still use them and pay them money when all this is over?
Lets be honest. AW are still encouraging escorts to escort so the same judgemental people should boycott them as they are the core to ladies getting any getting work in lockdown? I think I am making a fair point.
Because if anybody continues to use AW then it’s a bit rich slagging off WGs who work because it’s AW who lets them.
If anybody believes in something that much then see it all the way through. After all, AW are happy to let people die.
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Did somebody slag of WGs on this thread for using AW?
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Catch YOU out!!
If anybody thinks escorts should not be working oroffered any medical help if they catch the virus and want them prosecuted by police then what they you think of AW? Will you still use them and pay them money when all this is over?
Lets be honest. AW are still encouraging escorts to escort so the same judgemental people boycott them as they are the core to ladies getting any getting work in lockdown? I think I am making a fair point.
Because if anybody continues to use AW then it’s a bit rich slagging off WGs who work because AW let them.
If you believe in something that much then see it all the way through. After all, AW are happy to let people die.
I think I get what you mean, like, if someone has a problem with any individual escort working still why don't they have a problem with sites like adultwork still profiting from escorting through the featuring fees they get and phone number displays and so forth? If I understand you correctly, then yea its a bit rich.
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I think I get what you mean, like, if someone has a problem with any individual escort working still why don't they have a problem with sites like adultwork still profiting from escorting through the featuring fees they get and phone number displays and so forth? If I understand you correctly, then yea its a bit rich.
Have tidied it up since you quoted but yes that’s what I mean. The same holier than thou angels just now will still use AW later.
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Have tidied it up since you quoted but yes that’s what I mean. The same holier than thou angels just now will still use AW later.
Yep yep, I imagine they will :angel:
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Ok I see now. Well I don't agree that it's a good idea to work now because it's in all our best interests to get this virus under control and then we can resume work again.The way I see it its each individual WGs choice and if guys are of the mind to want to still see girls during CV then they are welcome to each other. We all have different standards. It's not up to AW to hold our hands and tell us what's right or be responsible for girls still going available. Individual choice. I have seen the girls in my area who are still offering work, And one is deemed high class at £250 an hour and young girls and an older WG and a few EU. None seem desperate or come across not intelligent but they want to still make money and they do not see the bigger picture. All I would say is that for my health I would avoid seeing any guys who have given them feedback well into this CV lockdown week. But really guys would have to be addicted to punting to risk it right now. And for most girls I think it's a smart choice and a good choice for our future bookings to take the responsible choice to not work. Most of us see the benefit for ALL to not work, We all will be down financially. Saying we think the ladies working now should not get medical attention is like saying that about all the WGs who offer BB which can spread all sorts. We all make choices as a escort what we offer and with knowing we risk our health too.
The girls working now will shoot themselves in the foot and that is their doing so no point in getting angry about it. Takes two to tango and plenty of people take risks sexually outside of escorting.
But for all of us to get back to work we all need to stop until CV cases drop. Even people in supermarkets don't care about the advice and 6ft space. As a country we are not use to all this and it is hard to change habits and be restricted.
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I think some sex workers who "still want to make money" might, just might be up shit creek without a paddle if they can't get through to UC and don't have any money to last until June. There is definitely an 'im better than you and them" vibe going on here.
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Is anyone else starting to feel really anxious and panicky about it all? I'm feeling the pinch now I've stopped seeing clients, and I've been an anxious wreck for days. I feel like crying...
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I think the point is not whether it is AW's job to stop workers or not, the point is that it is arguably hypocritical for people to finger wag at escorts for taking risks at this point (and to justify those judgments based on inferences cultivated from slender evidence) but still be willing to utilise websites that profit directly from those risks.
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I think the point is not whether it is AW's job to stop workers or not, the point is that it is arguably hypocritical for people to finger wag at escorts for taking risks at this point (and to justify those judgments based on inferences cultivated from slender evidence) but still be willing to utilise websites that profit directly from those risks.
Couldn’t have put it any better myself.
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Is anyone else starting to feel really anxious and panicky about it all? I'm feeling the pinch now I've stopped seeing clients, and I've been an anxious wreck for days. I feel like crying...
I was like this at first for many reasons partly because it wasn't just the sex work I lost, also I was trying to get things in place against a few tides. Much is now resolved and I feel better, not perfect but OK for now.
And yes I wanted to give in, cry and at some points die. I've had those thoughts and tried it years ago, it was tempting but I have plenty of arguments against doing something like that again.
So no tantrums yet, but there have been tears. Also the fear affected my digestive tract which is a normal stress response for me along with raised heartbeat, flushing and generally feeling sick as well as wierd.
Life has just changed hugely, loss of work, identity, hopes, goals just gone.
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AW have stopped online bookings, I think, and are not tweeting about escort of the day, just cam and phone chat. So pretty negligible but guess they are at least paying lip service to the lockdown. Obviously there are other platforms and I don't know what steps they've taken, if any.
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To everyone, Be strong and we will get through this. Yes we are going to face hard times but even making the choice to do this work takes courage and strength and drive. We are always stronger than we give ourselves credit for. Today I bumped into a mate that's a very successful PT and works almost every hour of every day 5 days a week. His work just like WGs totally dried up but he was positive and said after a few weeks it will be ok. So maybe more optimistic than most but I'm sure like the popular coffee shops People will want to have their fix. In life we have but a few pleasures and food, Booze, Coffee and sex are always going to make money. Already guys I know are climbing the walls, I myself want all the things I can't have. I will have a few grand loss but I hope to work harder now in the future than I have because I know appreciate how things can so quickly change. Last year I had a big crisis and lost 3 grand due to a dangerous situation I had to run from. Sure all of us have got through a time and at that time felt alone and helpless and like we had no way out. Then we get through it and so thankful we didn't go to that dark place. Let's all support each other. We may not be in a position to help each other financially but we can give advice and support the best way we know.
The main thing is having a safe place you can call home and sod the Bill's they can wait for now.
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I was like this at first for many reasons partly because it wasn't just the sex work I lost, also I was trying to get things in place against a few tides. Much is now resolved and I feel better, not perfect but OK for now.
And yes I wanted to give in, cry and at some points die. I've had those thoughts and tried it years ago, it was tempting but I have plenty of arguments against doing something like that again.
So no tantrums yet, but there have been tears. Also the fear affected my digestive tract which is a normal stress response for me along with raised heartbeat, flushing and generally feeling sick as well as wierd.
Life has just changed hugely, loss of work, identity, hopes, goals just gone.
Please never give up hun, We have all wanted to die and I even planned it one weekend going back 4 years. Glad I had the strength to ask for help. Like I said we are stronger than we know and always a part of us that somehow pulls through. I hope you have someone, Friends to support you x
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Oh I didn't realise that, interesting. The AT and phone number function is still there which is I guess where the money is. But for those who have no savings and have to wait until they get whatever financial support they are entitled to need those functions if they rely on AW, which many do.
I'm still hoping that when all this lifts there will be lots of blue balls being dragged around that will burst out of lockdown and I can take a break from my studies (upside of all this is I get to work on that stuff for a while with little distraction!) to have a few weeks working full time to make up for losses. That is if the economy isn't knackered by then. :(
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To everyone, Be strong and we will get through this. Yes we are going to face hard times but even making the choice to do this work takes courage and strength and drive. We are always stronger than we give ourselves credit for. Today I bumped into a mate that's a very successful PT and works almost every hour of every day 5 days a week. His work just like WGs totally dried up but he was positive and said after a few weeks it will be ok. So maybe more optimistic than most but I'm sure like the popular coffee shops People will want to have their fix. In life we have but a few pleasures and food, Booze, Coffee and sex are always going to make money. Already guys I know are climbing the walls, I myself want all the things I can't have. I will have a few grand loss but I hope to work harder now in the future than I have because I know appreciate how things can so quickly change. Last year I had a big crisis and lost 3 grand due to a dangerous situation I had to run from. Sure all of us have got through a time and at that time felt alone and helpless and like we had no way out. Then we get through it and so thankful we didn't go to that dark place. Let's all support each other. We may not be in a position to help each other financially but we can give advice and support the best way we know.
Yes, this. And there are some positive signs in the press about potentially the lockdown already starting to show slowing numbers of cases (cross fingers) so maybe it all won't take too long for things to ease up a bit.
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AW are still taking money per day for phone number display and available today and probably other advertising platforms too like Viva street.
So there all still cashing in on Coronavirus without them nobody would get many bookings at all.
Funny if they have took away the booking system then or stopped it working but not available today or phone number. Very crafty but not surprised at all.
If Universal credit had more in place or other benefits as so many have still not got through to get the claim maybe be less sex workers being available. But nobody knows for sure why some sex workers are continuing to work, there could be a number of different reasons and we will not know all of them. Some will be very justified reasons and some not so.
But let them get on with it. Not for other sex workers to police them.
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And maybe guys locked up with sexless relationships and with those blue balls will be banging down our doors lol I'm asking the universe to spin something good out of this. I want to imagine in a month a big sigh and we are all doodling along 🤞
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Best thing is to tick the box to not show number and then AW can't charge.
I imagine many WG have apartments that they pay for with escort work. I also imagine most WGs are single so no partner to share the burden. End of the day to continue working now must be because they need to. Yes a few will because they are greedy or opportunistic due to a massive lack of available. I'm just lucky I saved for hard times as I've had times before where I only had a few pounds in my overdraft and not because I was spending beyond my means.
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Also pre booking Air bnb will mean a loss if booked at the lockdown period. Nobody knew for sure we would be on lockdown as boris needed to consult first.
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This has taught me a hard lesson. I'm lucky that I have another job which pays for the roof over my head, but I recently spent my savings on home improvements. New flooring and decorating etc. What a time to have very little in the kitty. Never again.
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If only we had mystic megs crystal ball lol Showing my age. When i called my sister to see how she was doing because she works in a pub and all closed down.
She said to me "You'll be alright with what you get an hour, You wont be brassic "....People think we work from 9 til 5.30. I told her straight I have two rents to pay, Home with my kids and work so will have a loss there plus Bill's and my ex pays nothing to provide my kids with all they need. It hurts when people judge you when you trust them with the info that you escort.
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Yea I thankfully have a bit saved but only came back to work 1 year ago so if this had happened last year that would have been tough for me. Lots of escorts I've known only work part time and by the time those expenses stack up that 100+ per hour stops look so chunky.
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If only we had mystic megs crystal ball lol Showing my age. When i called my sister to see how she was doing because she works in a pub and all closed down.
She said to me "You'll be alright with what you get an hour, You wont be brassic "....People think we work from 9 til 5.30. I told her straight I have two rents to pay, Home with my kids and work so will have a loss there plus Bill's and my ex pays nothing to provide my kids with all they need. It hurts when people judge you when you trust them with the info that you escort.
I so know what you mean there hon. I don't speak to an alleged 'family' member for that very same reason. Ironic thing is she doesn't have a job and so has to rely on her husband for everything! ::) ::)
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I'm lucky that I have savings I'm dipping into.
I really hope that we will be able to work again soon and I sympathise with girls who are struggling. It's a lesson to save money for rainy days if possible.
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Haha many WG are single and don't have partners to annoy them during the lock down I am glad am not anyways I think I will end up in a mental hospital if i had one. After very many years of having my bed to my self and used to my own space I now appreciate it even more. As per AW still charging girls who are working I do not really think they care as long as the girls still want to risk their lives AW will charge them. I have taken my phone off and my green lights are off.
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Well gypsy I have given her money, Paid my mum £100 to look after my kids a few times for overnight bookings. I'm made to feel guilty because she is a single mum and struggling. I'm a single mum but I told her that if she wants to Suck C**k like me to change her lack of money then great otherwise don't moan or judge me. I made the choice to do to provide for myself and kids.
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Haha many WG are single and don't have partners to annoy them during the lock down I am glad am not anyways I think I will end up in a mental hospital if i had one. After very many years of having my bed to my self and used to my own space I now appreciate it even more. As per AW still charging girls who are working I do not really think they care as long as the girls still want to risk their lives AW will charge them. I have taken my phone off and my green lights are off.
I thought I was the only one happy not to share a bed with a lump of a man lol
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I have made the decision to give up my working flat as i cant rent it or work because of the virus ,its so discreet its a massive shame but i dont really want to get in debt with the landlady as we all dont know how long lockdown is for ,what do you ladys thinks i hope im doing the right thing ?????x
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I have made the decision to give up my working flat as i cant rent it or work because of the virus ,its so discreet its a massive shame but i dont really want to get in debt with the landlady as we all dont know how long lockdown is for ,what do you ladys thinks i hope im doing the right thing ?????x
You’re allowed to get in debt with landladies and sort when this is over.
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I have made the decision to give up my working flat as i cant rent it or work because of the virus ,its so discreet its a massive shame but i dont really want to get in debt with the landlady as we all dont know how long lockdown is for ,what do you ladys thinks i hope im doing the right thing ?????x
Contact your landlady, explain you have had to stop work due to the pandemic and ask if you can pay once the worst is over or I know some people have arranged payment plans for when they start paying rent again, like an extra £100 a month or whatever until you back up to scratch. The government I believe have insisted property owners co-operate with tenants on this. But as you say lockdown could be months or it could be mere weeks, so its a real judgement call.
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I have made the decision to give up my working flat as i cant rent it or work because of the virus ,its so discreet its a massive shame but i dont really want to get in debt with the landlady as we all dont know how long lockdown is for ,what do you ladys thinks i hope im doing the right thing ?????x
I take it she thinks you are living there? so will expect a back log of rent maybe. If i had to repay any of it i would let it go. There is already going to be lots of debts to be paid when out of it.
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I have made the decision to give up my working flat as i cant rent it or work because of the virus ,its so discreet its a massive shame but i dont really want to get in debt with the landlady as we all dont know how long lockdown is for ,what do you ladys thinks i hope im doing the right thing ?????x
I'm in the same situation with my work flat and after lugging my stuff around 140 a night Air bnbs Iwas lucky to find the perfect flat and so central and discreet. If we can work in June I can handle the loss if work comes in.
My rents due soon so I need to decide myself, I just made the rent for this month rent but may will have to come out of my pocket. I don't know what to do either, Should we wait it out? Getting another flat for me will be hard with landlords wanting to see bank statements and references and such. Either way will make a loss until we can work again.
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Aren't they going to review the situation in a couple of weeks' time? Think I heard that right, but who knows what the chances are of them lifting some of their restrictions?
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Aren't they going to review the situation in a couple of weeks' time? Think I heard that right, but who knows what the chances are of them lifting some of their restrictions?
Yes - as I understand it Dr Jenny Harries the medic doing the press conferences said a review after three weeks to see if some of the lockdown can be softened but it all depends, and in theory some form of social restriction might be in place for up to 6 months, but that might just mean large gatherings for example. If I had a work flat I'd wait out the three weeks if possible and see what they say then, and then make a decision, but it all depends on people's individual financial situations.
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I’ve stopped working with the current situation. Luckily I have some savings and a few clients have offered to help which is lovely! I did notice the weeks before that it was starting to quiet down a little.
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I am struggling with the lockdown. It's not just the financial impact of this - it's also not being able to venture out and spend time with loved ones. I hate it. I really hope the lockdown will be reversed, but I doubt it this soon...
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I think burlesque is right to wait it out, I will see how the next 3 weeks go. My fav and most regular clients been laid off for 2 months with 80% pay, That worries me. If most companies are laying off staff for 2-3 months and with the continuing no group gatherings for 6 months, Restaurants will be closed and bars. So guys will have more money with not socialising and drinking in pubs. But still money will be tight for most so less guys spending on luxuries like us. Older guys will not punt for many months for fear of getting seriously ill.
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Thanks for all your advise ,yes ive given 1 months notice but i can change my mind ,i wont be taking any belongings with me i dont want the expence of storage or moving items ,as i dont drive i have my separate home so its enough financially to keep the wolf from the door at home ,pets ,bills ,every day living ,so im going to try to remain positive and fingers crossed for all us ladys in our tough times xxx And thankyou all
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Most of my clients are white collar salaried professional types and so those are the ones who are probably less likely like to suffer financially I reckon (unless I am missing something) from this than workers who depend on the service economy and insecure employment seeing as some of those businesses might struggle to return to normal even with the government packages and so I am hoping, as Betty says, after no spends on restaurants, weekend antics they might have money to spend after lockdown. Im half filling my glass at the mo else I'd go bananas.
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I'm trying to be more half full, Just had a thought about buying one of those real to life sex dolls to sit in for me lol But then the clean up would be a pain.
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I'm trying to be more half full, Just had a thought about buying one of those real to life sex dolls to sit in for me lol But then the clean up would be a pain.
;D ;D Now thats a business idea.
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They already have sex doll brothels lol I got too much time on my hands But seriously even investing in one doll could be an idea. Something totally opposite to me so big boobs and Kardashian bum, Might end up getting more work than me.
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OMG a site calle Racyme and so many dolls lol But seriously having just one during the months to come could be great for guys who are worried about physical contact with us real ladies. I'm just trying to think of a way to just keep hold of my flat until works back to normal but what if I just end up with a real life size doll I'll have to hide in my wardrobe lol Try to explain that to my teenagers.
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Just heard if a charity called SWARM that's launching a hardship fund to help aex workers most in need. Vivastreet are asking for donations to be made to SWARM to support sex workers. It's for those in severe financial hardship so not something I am in need of but I imagine right now ladies face being homeless and going without food. This is going to be one of the hardest things to hit Sex workers. And not all WG have paid tax although yes as someone pointed out already, A claim for universal credit is available.
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Burlesque is right. I'm working on something involved in Nightingale and we are planning for 12 weeks for the extra beds that keep getting mentioned however we are all saying it could be a lot later in the year.
Its put a real thorn in my side however I'm very lucky I've another job but I'm having to cut back due as this was helping a gap.
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Today o got a WhatsApp to ask of I still do outcalls WTF. The guys in my phone as odd pest lol So Amyone else still getting asked if available?
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Yes mostly and mainly people who either haven't had any previous contact, or people I would call flaky/get drunk/late night callers.
I have had a few during the day send fairly sensible (meaning contact I would usually respond to or consider for a booking) messages, I just have a template response and a script. Also explained to some of the lakies that they might want to consider how they have approached me prior to this, that the whole social distancing and for some self-isolating is serious.
A few regulars have been in very respectful touch, just to check in and maintain a bit of contact.
I'm thinking ahead to the time when I can accept bookings again, in the meantime exploring other avenues.
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I had a few just at the start on lockdown but nobody now. Majority of clients will know it's serious and fines issued if caught out. So i would imagine any wanting services will mainly contact any women who have there number showing now as that means there open for business.
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Today o got a WhatsApp to ask of I still do outcalls WTF. The guys in my phone as odd pest lol So Amyone else still getting asked if available?
Well, if you have an ad with VS they're extending them for free at the moment, so I've had a couple of calls from presumably that ad. Not that I'm answering any though :)
Genuine men know the situation and it's only regs who seriously want to know whether I'm working now or not. I can't see very many unknowns being genuine.
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Any ladies having any luck with webcam? I think it will be the only way guys will get a bit fun but so many girls going it. And I have no experience camming. Tried once and failed and found it boring having to sit by the laptop waiting for a ping.
Made £2.50 yesterday from AW texts lol Zero vid or PG sales.
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I had a go and it was terrible for me. I think it might be hard if you’re not a seasoned cam performer with a rep and regs maybe. I’ll give it another go on the weekend though in case it was just a bad time I chose.
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I think you are right burlesque, And I have my kids home now day and night. Spoken to a friend who runs a pub and they have been told not to expect to open for another 2 months. I have decided to give up work flat, I can't imagine my landlord will find anyone to rent it at 1200 a month. I'm going to ask if he could hold on to my deposit and if he doesn't find tenants in next 3 months could I resume. Otherwise I'll be throwing away a months rent on top of the month in advance. I've seen local [accommodation] for £50 a night I can book come the Autum. I worked hard to get a stable work flat on my own but what will be woll be. I'm lucky I have a roof over my kids head and saved for a rainy day.
This is so surreal
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I had a few just at the start on lockdown but nobody now. Majority of clients will know it's serious and fines issued if caught out. So i would imagine any wanting services will mainly contact any women who have there number showing now as that means there open for business.
I’ve just seen a post that West Yorkshire have set up a web form to report people. This is getting out of hand. Please be careful everyone
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I think you are right burlesque, And I have my kids home now day and night. Spoken to a friend who runs a pub and they have been told not to expect to open for another 2 months. I have decided to give up work flat, I can't imagine my landlord will find anyone to rent it at 1200 a month. I'm going to ask if he could hold on to my deposit and if he doesn't find tenants in next 3 months could I resume. Otherwise I'll be throwing away a months rent on top of the month in advance. I've seen local [accommodation] for £50 a night I can book come the Autum. I worked hard to get a stable work flat on my own but what will be woll be. I'm lucky I have a roof over my kids head and saved for a rainy day.
This is so surreal
That is a good idea, I can't imagine anybody would want to be moving right now (or would even really be allowed to move practically speaking) into a flat so he might have a job renting it. Nifty idea. You're right, so, so surreal. I am already fed up of not being able to take bookings and its only been about ten days.
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I feel you there burlesque and I'm now extra fed up because I think things are not going to ease up soon, Have to really budget hard. But this gives us time to perfect our profile, New pics and recharge. I put on weight so I can set a goal to get back in shape
When we can work I think we will be busy with old regulars and guys are already saying how much they have saved from not drinking and eating out for a punt pot. So I will be prepared to be ready to work hard and be focused.
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Today o got a WhatsApp to ask of I still do outcalls WTF. The guys in my phone as odd pest lol So Amyone else still getting asked if available?
I've had 3 enquiries all week and was amazed anyone had asked to be honest. Although looking at aw there are no ladies available in my area right now which is a positive sign (not judging anyone still working though). Any enquiry is bloody annoying atm when I really need the money 😡
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There was a report on the news which is not escort related but I say so as it relates to us.
The lady was arressted in Yourk and been fined for breaching coronavirus restrictions after she refused to tell police who she was and why she was at a railway station.
So I do wonder those ladies who are still providing incalls or Outcalls still working during this time (NOT judging) if business comes their way as the police are asking questing those on foot and who are driving what their reason for their journey.
If there was no lockdown enforced I would still be working outcall bookings but will not provide full gfe just doggy position and practice social distancig in the meet.
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I think Foxy lady that the punters worth seeing are the ones that don't ask now but keep in mind some guys are testing to see what ladies are not taking their health and others seriously and being irresponsible. So yes it very annoying indeed and I'm lucky I got to see my regulars before this all got very serious. Bit what's most annoying is we will get updates and reviews every 3 weeks which leaves us not knowing when we will be free to work. If big companies are putting employees on 80% pay for 3 months and Wimbledon and Olympics being cancelled this summer, Bog coronavirus hospitals being put together then I think we will be in limbo more than 3 months.
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I'm experiencing a high up-turn in booking enquiries and requests, of guys wanting to see me TODAY.
One guy asked when I was available, I told him it might be July but possibly September depending on what the government advice was, and he replied asking what my problem is....??
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I'm experiencing a high up-turn in booking enquiries and requests, of guys wanting to see me TODAY.
One guy asked when I was available, I told him it might be July but possibly September depending on what the government advice was, and he replied asking what my problem is....??
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Wow there are some dip shit men in this world. Your reply was fine and sensible.
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Think we also have to remember that there are probably some sex workers out there that might be in complete dire straits and feel they have no choice but to work. Maybe they will soon find another way to earn money to tide them over until things get s bit better. Maybe they are still waiting to get through to UC.
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Think we also have to remember that there are probably some sex workers out there that might be in complete dire straits and feel they have no choice but to work. Maybe they will soon find another way to earn money to tide them over until things get s bit better. Maybe they are still waiting to get through to UC.
Yep there will be some just working to get food or electricity and gas because so many have STILL NOT GOT THROUGH TO UNIVERSAL CREDIT so feel like they have no choice. But there will be a small percentage that have enough savings hiked there prices right up and cashing in on less sex workers working so in a fact taking advantage of the crisis. I get the first reason it is survival but the second reason i think is very bad when so many are losing there life if they catch it and the ones cashing in when financially comfortable will still be going out to buy food so will be near others.
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I've started getting lots of calls again, which is worrying... :-[
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I've started getting lots of calls again, which is worrying... :-[
I have not because my number is not listed or switched on to even know. I took it off when lock down was introduced.
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I've started getting lots of calls again, which is worrying... :-[
Best thing to do if you do not want those calls just remove it. I have not had 1 single call since removing it and i have checked just a couple of times.
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I think Foxy lady that the punters worth seeing are the ones that don't ask now but keep in mind some guys are testing to see what ladies are not taking their health and others seriously and being irresponsible. So yes it very annoying indeed and I'm lucky I got to see my regulars before this all got very serious. Bit what's most annoying is we will get updates and reviews every 3 weeks which leaves us not knowing when we will be free to work. If big companies are putting employees on 80% pay for 3 months and Wimbledon and Olympics being cancelled this summer, Bog coronavirus hospitals being put together then I think we will be in limbo more than 3 months.
Edinburgh festival also cancelled and that’s August!!
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I agree remove number, I'm just getting the A holes that know my number and pop up every now and again and now they get blocked. But no new callers or text without my number on view.
I totally agree with English green that I can't judge girls that need to feed themselves but to cash in males me judge because its greed and total ignorance too. Saved, I have a roof but if I don't work then I got to give up my work flat boo hoo, Health and morals come first always.
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I never show my number, the requests are coming via AW and email (which is ONLY on my website which does not offer physical bookings) .
I'm also now getting SMS texts via AW which I have checked and yes that service is UNTICKED yet the service still shows on my profile (I get about 20p every time I reply, but STILL...)
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There was a report on the news which is not escort related but I say so as it relates to us.
The lady was arressted in Yourk and been fined for breaching coronavirus restrictions after she refused to tell police who she was and why she was at a railway station.
So I do wonder those ladies who are still providing incalls or Outcalls still working during this time (NOT judging) if business comes their way as the police are asking questing those on foot and who are driving what their reason for their journey.
If there was no lockdown enforced I would still be working outcall bookings but will not provide full gfe just doggy position and practice social distancig in the meet.
I support breaking up groups but hassling individuals is draconian.
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Yea I think it makes no sense to target individuals (which I doubt many police will be doing anyway especially given that they are even more understaffed now than normally) but if I were to still be going on outcalls or whatever I'd avoid wearing the more 'glammy' stuff because where would anyone legitimately be going dressed up? And wear very casual clothes etc But then I wouldn't personally advice still offering outcalls even if someone does still have to work, and that's not a reactionary judgement just, its a bigger risk.
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I made the bus journey ( only one on the bus Billy no mates lol) and on foot to my work flat to check on it and I didn't see any police. My ex was trying to get me to get a cab to his last night, Told him I don't do booty calls lol But also I'd feel like I was breaking the law .The police are targeting cars on the motorways mainly with unmarked cars. I know someone recently got a £60 fine this week trying to visit his girlfriend. Unfortunately sometime the power goes to the heads of some authority figures.
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Sorry, know this is off topic but I received a wonderful text from one of my regulars yesterday. He asked if I was ok with all the CV going on and said if I needed any money to let him know. I don't, but how lovely is that.
Another reg messaged me last week to say if I needed anything to let him know. Turns out he was thinking in lines of pasta, but still appreciated.
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Sorry, know this is off topic but I received a wonderful text from one of my regulars yesterday. He asked if I was ok with all the CV going on and said if I needed any money to let him know. I don't, but how lovely is that.
Another reg messaged me last week to say if I needed anything to let him know. Turns out he was thinking in lines of pasta, but still appreciated.
That reflects on the quality of a person you are. I'm hoping that the same regulars that appreciate us will be the ones booking us up after this lockdown and that's would be the best help to boost funds.
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I'm sure they will BB. I shall also be giving this reg an hour's service for the price of half.
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Sorry, know this is off topic but I received a wonderful text from one of my regulars yesterday. He asked if I was ok with all the CV going on and said if I needed any money to let him know. I don't, but how lovely is that.
Another reg messaged me last week to say if I needed anything to let him know. Turns out he was thinking in lines of pasta, but still appreciated.
I’ve been surprised at the texts I’ve received from regulars too, asking how I’m doing & one telling me to let him know if there’s anything he can do to help me out. I’m good & don’t need anything, but it’s been nice to get a few “hope you’re doing okay!” messages.
There’s a couple older clients with health issues who I’ve thought about & I’m hoping are okay, although I would never contact them to check.
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I've had some nice texts and calls from clients asking if I'm ok...I'm sorry to say none of them have offered any financial help but I live in hope lol
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I received a text today from a client that I hadn’t seen in over 2 years and the strange thing is is that I use a different number now to the one I used when I had a booking with him last and my number hasn’t been on show for about 9 days, I’m unsure if he had seen my new number, when I was last showing it, and he saved it then without calling me, or is my new number online elsewhere, I also think he was texting me to list me in either the black or the hotlist, I have on my profile that I’m not working until this is all over and he said to me if I change my mind about working then please let him know and I told him I won’t be and that I’m away back down to Wales, this isn’t true but he is a very very nosey man and this is why I don’t like him, he is one of those ones that feels entitled to know your life story just because he books you. :FF
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To the pp’s that have been offered financial ‘help’ from clients, well are these conditional donations or loans? I have had a borrow from a client a few years back and my god, you would’ve thought he gave me a down payment for a house with the sheer control he tried to have over me after that, he texted me everyday and then wanted the money back in a booking and I ended up losing the plot and called him to say “you either have the money back through a booking OR through my time via texting but your not having both and we already discussed how I would pay you back BEFORE you gave me the money, you can’t change the rules after the fact”, he wasn’t happy and in the end I just paid him back and told him never to contact me again, so please be careful when clients offer to ‘help’ because it’s usually just a manipulation of you.
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I just hope it pays off for those of us not still putting green lights on, I can't believe the amount in my area woth green lights on.I know a few of the girls and definitely cashing in on so many not available.I really do wonder if police or vice squad are checking AW, If so I'd rather not bring attention to myself. I suppose I'm frustrated because I just want lockdown to be over not just boring not working but it's been a whole lifestyle change.
How are you keeping sane?
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And if the girls have been going available since the lockdown then I think work must still be about >:(
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BB, I'd bet there's very little work around but not sure. I'd bet there's also more who are working but don't have their lights on.
I'm kind of enjoying not working but there's a part of me that misses the attention. Oh and the structure of working my three days a week.
But there's also a part of me that never wants to go back. I'm concentrating on my other non sex job that I do from home. Also got a spotless house, garden coming along nicely and dusted off a few books. Time is dragging though being on lockdown.😡
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And if the girls have been going available since the lockdown then I think work must still be about >:(
I've had slightly more enquiries this week compared to the last couple, which makes me wonder if more might come in over the next few weeks as guys might be starting getting twitchy.
@EnglishAmy same here!
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I am far too scared to work during the CV pandemic now, at first I was being a bit selfish, and skint with being available, but now I’m terrified to death of catching it, I am a smoker and it’s 14 times more difficult for smokers’ to recover from CV than it is for non smokers, getting it is like breathing through a tea strainer and you need to concentrate on your breaths which is scary and imagine sleeping with that worry! Not for me anymore but I don’t blame girls that are still working, it can’t be helped for some folks.
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English Amy there is a huge part of me that knows I won’t ever go back when I get a new f/t normal job! ;)
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And if the girls have been going available since the lockdown then I think work must still be about >:(
It definitely is. I've put my profile in 3 different areas today for phone chat and I have had several calls and emails asking for escort bookings. I can also confirm that the TW's are out in full force.
I certainly could not be doing camming or phone chat in this industry. I find it mind numbing. Still, I have made a few quid today, so better than nothing.
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I definitely got so much done Amy and I still have plenty to keep me busy for another month but I miss having the freedom. Also I spoke to my landlord to give in my months notice and he is trying to convince me to keep flat and a rent break but that will be money I will owe him and that could be a months rent or two months rent and at 1200 that's loads. I just wish we knew approx how long. I'm thinking another six weeks of this ffs :( I definitely don't want to get in debt for a flat I can't use although I suggested to landlord I'd leave and return when the financial dry spell is over. But he knows his not going to find anyone for months anyway and I am a good tenant and paying £300 too much each month.
I can cope financially now but I don't want debt, Wirked too hard to not be.
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I know I could probably sub rent to another escort but that's hypocritical so no way would I unless lockdown was over.
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And if the girls have been going available since the lockdown then I think work must still be about >:(
Probably will be a bit of work about but what would worry me the type that would be booking in this crisis. I also was thinking criminals could be taking advantage knowing most would not call police if they had a service and took money back or did something bad because they know sex workers should not be working in lockdown. This would worry me a lot more then usual.
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Probably will be a bit of work about but what would worry me the type that would be booking in this crisis. I also was thinking criminals could be taking advantage knowing most would not call police if they had a service and took money back or did something bad because they know sex workers should not be working in lockdown. This would worry me a lot more then usual.
I never thought of the criminal side but yes I can see that happening. When I have gone out and walked around the eerie city centre I definitely dont feel as safe and many shops have had doors and windows smashed. The ones on the streets are the homeless and those addicted to drugs.
But also young nurse only lat twenties have died and Drs, Co-op worker and loads with no underlying health problems. I don't want to risk my health and die because I got kids and I been doing sex work to make sure I can do better so I can help them achieve more than I did and have options. But they would rather me around than the money I could make. Seems CV can be lethal to a few and its playing Russian roulette to tempt it.
And to those who think us WGs are worried about not earning because we spent our money on expensive perfumes and handbags, Cars and holidays, That's like saying everybody( Not just working girls) who is struggling now has over spent on luxury items.
1. Some WGs work part time to help to have a few luxury things like the peace if mind they can pay Bill's and most kids to work around. Dont generalize WGs because we all come from different backgrounds just like the guys to pay WGs and post about it. You can laugh now but us WGs are always laughing how we get paid for our time and have the power to. We will be back to work and guys are already eager to visit.
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Apologise that was a bit of a rant at the end. But i hate how fast people ( Nobody on here ) judge and take pleasure in how WGs struggle like now and make it out because we have been greedy and careless with earnings. Don't take into account the things we pay out for to do our job, Office space, Those outfits andsexy undies, Stockings, Travel and I definitely have to take 7 days off a month unlike if I was working in another job. We have the right to voice our money issues and so does everybody else.
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BB I enjoyed your rant.
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i hate how fast people ( Nobody on here ) judge and take pleasure in how WGs struggle like now and make it out because we have been greedy and careless with earnings. Don't take into account the things we pay out for to do our job, Office space, Those outfits andsexy undies, Stockings, Travel and I definitely have to take 7 days off a month unlike if I was working in another job. We have the right to voice our money issues and so does everybody else.
Yes, it's always been something that people who don't understand the job struggle with (and I remember years ago feeling like I could never complain to friends about an unexpectedly big bill, or whatever), but if people you know are treating you this way at a time like this, then I'd say the current situation is the perfect opportunity to reduce contact with them almost completely. It's clear that you spend a lot of time concerning yourself with what other people think and it's really the road to madness - they likely won't mean to be malicious but there's really no point even letting it register.
I had to explain to a friend a few days ago that the self employment grant in June (while very welcome and certainly better than nothing) is 80% of profit and not turnover, and those of us with fixed costs will still have to pay them out of what's supposed to be replacing our profit/take home rather than the full amount as we normally would; the rent alone on my work flat is north of £2K per month and what I'll get won't touch my overheads. But he was only trying to be reassuring and lot of people just haven't really given it a lot of thought :).
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Wow I'm lucky I suppose because I pay for my work flat on a daily basis. I have the flat three times a week and it's £60 a day. It's been a work flat for ten plus years and is so discreet, no one knows what's going on there. I've been using it for three years and the lady that owns it is keeping it for me so I do t have to pay anything until I go back.
Tantric I missed your post about not going back. I'm still in two minds.
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BB no need to apologise for the rant tbh everything you has said is spot on. CV is affecting everyone not just us WG. Infact even the service users especially the once who don't only come to us for the usual thing which S. E. X but also other things like someone to talk to and trust me I have met a few who could never open up to their friends and families they way they open up to us. Also the once with special request. I have just had very long email from one of my good regulars who is so frustrated because he is a cross dresser and enjoys doing it with me and at the moment he is stuck after reading his email I even thought to myself may be we should be put under the key workers category. Only my opinion ladies.
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You are right Amy I shouldn't care but everybody I thought knew me well and had known me for years treat me differently now. I found myself feeling guilty and giving family members money even though they never helped me. Can be very isolating and o haven't told my best mate because I fear she will be disgusted even though she sleeps with a few married men and often takes guys home after a night out.
2k is a huge amount if you can't work, Will you keep your work flat Amy? I wouldn't mind being a month out of pocket but if lockdown is for another 6 weeks, I think people will be working from home for another 3 months, So hard for guys to get out with a partner at home unless shops and gyms open. Talk of a second wave after the first episode of CV-19.
And £60 a day is very good value, I'm my region rooms are 120 a day. I could sub let my flat to get help with rent if after lockdown things are slow.
How many of you girls are going to take a long break now, If you can financially do so?
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To the pp’s that have been offered financial ‘help’ from clients, well are these conditional donations or loans? I have had a borrow from a client a few years back and my god, you would’ve thought he gave me a down payment for a house with the sheer control he tried to have over me after that, he texted me everyday and then wanted the money back in a booking and I ended up losing the plot and called him to say “you either have the money back through a booking OR through my time via texting but your not having both and we already discussed how I would pay you back BEFORE you gave me the money, you can’t change the rules after the fact”, he wasn’t happy and in the end I just paid him back and told him never to contact me again, so please be careful when clients offer to ‘help’ because it’s usually just a manipulation of you.
I have received help from a client and some ‘admirers’ but that is via Twitter, and it’s a drop in the ocean really. Still I think it’s great that they have helped.
I wouldn’t want to do it if I could help it if someone attached ‘conditions’ but I appreciate that if this goes on who knows I may change my position on that.
I had the incredibly bad luck that just when this was happening my purse went missing, so I have no bank cards and that is one thing you need to verify with Universal Credit.
Add to that I am kinda stranded in a temp let whilst this goes on, which doesn’t help at all with anything.
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It would be great if help came with no strings but it's often not the case, I learnt the hard way when a nice client offered to help me get a work flat in his name, I paid for the deposit, Rent and I gave him a £100 a each week for his help. At the time I was struggling to find a place to work, No credit rating it was his idea to help me. He went from seeing me twice a week to 4 times, He complained he was short on cash so I gave a discount on bookings. Then he wanted me to go out with him for dinner, I paid half the bill everytime. I hate owing anyone, I'm very independent so he couldn't say I was using him. I was paying him £100 a week as a thanks. And this guy is now still a member on AW with good feedback and leaving feedback during lockdown.
So it was dinner out, He would deliberately be my last booking even though i told him i was tired from seeing 4 or 5 clients that day. Then came the bit where he wanted to know if i liked him as a person why couldn't he be my f**k buddy. Then trying to get me to not use a condom to him forcing himself on me without one. I had to grab a few bits and run. 3 grand i lost from flat paid deposit and rent and furniture. He then threatened to throw acid in my face, Hurt my family. He stalked me for 6 months and I found 3 other girls he had also harrashed and stalked. He flowed me on nights out with my friends, Damaged cars and threatened to get guys to fake book me and beat me up and worse. I am stubborn and no push over but since that client I have had to look over my shoulder and vet any new clients. I can't take a chance.
I have messaged local girls to warn them about him but most don't listen, Which I think is down to money.
So if a client offers me help I will say no thanks. If they want to help after CV do a long booking with me and keep me busy and in money that way. I personally help those I know and care for with no strings or expect it back. Right now a guy wants to help me and rent my work flat for £150 a week. I hardly know him, He sometimes books me but I'm up s#*t st if I can't get him to leave and have to explain to my landlord. Yes it would help but at what cost ?
Men are strange creatures and most like the control they can get by paying for things.
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No, I won't be giving up my flat unless I have no other option - it took me too long to find the perfect one in the perfect location and I had literally five weeks of working in it before all this kicked off so it was the worst timing possible after I'd only just paid out all the moving in costs. But I don't have any more rent to pay for a while yet so I can afford to sit it out for the time being, although it's definitely going to be tight (and it's still far cheaper than Central London hotels at the thick end of £200 a night!) Stories like the above are precisely why I would never rent a flat from somebody who knew why I wanted it.
My phone is off, although I'm sticking it on once a day to delete messages and there's as many as ever wanting to book. The most irritating part is that it seems the Sport have lifted my number from somewhere and published it, but if nothing else the timing means that by the time I'm back at work it'll be long forgotten and I'll never have the misfortune to have to speak to any of them.
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I also handed my notice in on my working flat ,due out 1st of may and i believe that just after that we will be out of lock down shit happens ,but i pray it all works out for us all (w g s)xxxx
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I think I will keep my flat too, Took me along time to find it, Landlords and nice and happy as long as rent is paid, Discreet and i don't want to go back to lugging my kit about. I've paid for May, Landlords happy to give me a rent break and pay it back when I can.
I'm hoping June we will be out of lockdown.
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So since the beginning of this virus coming to light, about a week before govt lockdown I had 2 regular clients barter with me.
I work from a parlour for incalls and because that had shut, I had clients offering to book hotels and for the price to be taken from my fee. Obviously didn’t see them cos that’s not how it works.
I’m just wondering if everyone is getting this at the min?
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I have received help from a client and some ‘admirers’ but that is via Twitter, and it’s a drop in the ocean really. Still I think it’s great that they have helped.
I wouldn’t want to do it if I could help it if someone attached ‘conditions’ but I appreciate that if this goes on who knows I may change my position on that.
I had the incredibly bad luck that just when this was happening my purse went missing, so I have no bank cards and that is one thing you need to verify with Universal Credit.
Add to that I am kinda stranded in a temp let whilst this goes on, which doesn’t help at all with anything.
I too had a lovely long term regular give me £200 yesterday and he said it’s not for a booking it’s to keep you and little one in food. Could of cried was so sweet of him. Honestly in this time there are some good guys around. Also my neighbours got me some pasta when they went to the shop and wouldn’t accept the cash for it.
It’s also good to see the government starting to talk about an exit strategy for this Coronavirus. Just hang on in there everyone. I honestly think by May/June we will be able to earn some cash again.
Italy has started to see a downward trend in new cases now so let’s hope it’s all turning around slowly.
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That's lovely to read blondie. I know most of my local cab drivers and they are lucky to get 3 customers a day so ots not just us. I am hoping that June we can get back to work. I will drop my rates down because I'm at the high end in my area and before I was happy to just do a few bookings 4 times a week but will have to work harder once we get the all clear. I am a self proclaimed lazy whore lol I hope my lovely regular gents will want to do longer bookings which I find are more laidback gfe and I enjoy myself.
Anyone else who's single in lockdown craving the company of a guy? I mean to just use and abuse lol I might turn my attention to online dating to catch myself some ass for after lockdown. I try to explain to a few that my job is sex and most of the time outside of work I'd just want to slap a penis out of my way but now I'm back to being like the old me and miss sex.
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I've had a few regs offer to pay for an appointment for the future, like an IOU, but I didn't accept, because nice idea as it is I am then beholden to an appointment that maybe in a months time I'll no longer want or be able to go through with, if I got ill or something. But seeing as a lot of punters I've encountered believe that we are seeing 8 clients a day 6 days a week 50 weeks out of the year or whatever, that's a rare concern. I just keep on rolling in my imaginary whore millions.
A few arseholes who have been hitherto respectable have used this time to try and get free sex chat out of me also :FF like 'seeing as we can't meet can we have some cheeky phone sex?' and then I mention £20 per half hour for this and they go silent.
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Heard it all now!
HIM: When are you available? (yeah, no hi or anything)
ME: I'll be available in possibly July or it might be September, depending on when the government lifts the movement and distancing restrictions. Thanks!
HIM: I thought you offered incalls though?
ME: I do when there's not a deadly disease going around and the government hasn't ordered everyone to stay indoors. Please get back to me when they've lifted the restrictions to request a booking.
HIM: But its an incall! Its not like you have to travel to me!
So, Mr Genius. 1) do you live with me and therefore are classed as part of my household under the social distancing rules? 2) Like 1000s of other ladies, I don't live where I work, therefore I cannot work as I cannot travel to my incall place.
I didn't reply anyway, just ignored. I shouldn't have to spell it out to him. I hope that's the most ridiculous enquiry I receive during this madness.
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Heard it all now!
HIM: When are you available? (yeah, no hi or anything)
ME: I'll be available in possibly July or it might be September, depending on when the government lifts the movement and distancing restrictions. Thanks!
HIM: I thought you offered incalls though?
ME: I do when there's not a deadly disease going around and the government hasn't ordered everyone to stay indoors. Please get back to me when they've lifted the restrictions to request a booking.
HIM: But its an incall! Its not like you have to travel to me!
So, Mr Genius. 1) do you live with me and therefore are classed as part of my household under the social distancing rules? 2) Like 1000s of other ladies, I don't live where I work, therefore I cannot work as I cannot travel to my incall place.
I didn't reply anyway, just ignored. I shouldn't have to spell it out to him. I hope that's the most ridiculous enquiry I receive during this madness.
Haha that made me laugh, not bothered about the disease at all, just flouting the restrictions!
Guys - Sneaking out for an 'emergency cock suck' - NOT ESSENTIAL!
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i am ashamed to admit this but i still have to take bookings if i get any but haven't got any at the moment.
i started a new job but it was after the date to be applicable for furlough, and i was unemployed doing occasional escorting before. I am not on universal credit, didnt want to apply until i knew i had no work at my new job but i got the news friday so will apply monday.
but until then i cant survive, i pay weekly rent so i owe that tomorrow, i have no food but i can live without tht, but i also am running out of electric so i will have to take a job today or tomorrow if i can get it.
I will suffer badly if i get it as well, I am diabetic so might be a tricky recovery but yeah, some of us have no choice. my family are not well off so they cant help, and the friends i could ask helped out last week, i can't ask people to look after me every week until a payment comes through. i just hope im lucky and don't catch it :(
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i am ashamed to admit this but i still have to take bookings if i get any but haven't got any at the moment.
i started a new job but it was after the date to be applicable for furlough, and i was unemployed doing occasional escorting before. I am not on universal credit, didnt want to apply until i knew i had no work at my new job but i got the news friday so will apply monday.
but until then i cant survive, i pay weekly rent so i owe that tomorrow, i have no food but i can live without tht, but i also am running out of electric so i will have to take a job today or tomorrow if i can get it.
I will suffer badly if i get it as well, I am diabetic so might be a tricky recovery but yeah, some of us have no choice. my family are not well off so they cant help, and the friends i could ask helped out last week, i can't ask people to look after me every week until a payment comes through. i just hope im lucky and don't catch it :(
MM, I don't know your situation but lots of supermarket jobs are meant to be available at the moment, ditto work on farmers picking fruit and veg etc. It won't help immediately but if you got something like that it could see you over the summer?
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MM, if you've got some money for the rent then please buy food - there are measures in place now which mean you can't be evicted and a landlord isn't going to struggle because it's a tenner short.
If not (and I know this isn't a useful or long term solution) do you have a credit card that you could order a takeaway with for tonight and tomorrow morning? There's a thread about Universal Credit just below this one and some people have been able to get emergency money quickly, but you might be on the phone for a while.
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MM, if you've got some money for the rent then please buy food - there are measures in place now which mean you can't be evicted and a landlord isn't going to struggle because it's a tenner short.
If not (and I know this isn't a useful or long term solution) do you have a credit card that you could order a takeaway with for tonight and tomorrow morning? There's a thread about Universal Credit just below this one and some people have been able to get emergency money quickly, but you might be on the phone for a while.
Hi thanks so much for your response :) i am trying U.C tomorrow, i haven't got enough for the rent unfortunately, and it is my priority. my landlady is a cunt, she is insisting on her hundred quid still during these times knowing my circumstances (not escprting but the furlough thing) as it is her only income.
i don't have acredit card, i used them when i was in my opinion not really old enough or responsible enough to have one and fucked up my credit rating so unable to get these branches of credit which are a lifesaver for some.
I do appreciate your replies though, feels a bit lonely when times are shit!
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Wow MM I feel for you. Im trying to think of options and can't. The calls still seem to be coming in for work, especially late at night so I'm hoping you get a job or two. And then UC emergency payment. Oh there's a link in this thread for emergency sex worker funds. You don't have to prove anything, just contact them. I'm sure I read something about them giving around £200.
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Does anyone starting to feel the urge to just get fucked?
I mean we all know the financial impact this lockdown has on us all but if you are single and have a high sex drive?
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Wow MM I feel for you. Im trying to think of options and can't. The calls still seem to be coming in for work, especially late at night so I'm hoping you get a job or two. And then UC emergency payment. Oh there's a link in this thread for emergency sex worker funds. You don't have to prove anything, just contact them. I'm sure I read something about them giving around £200.
i have actually applied, thankyou x
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Does anyone starting to feel the urge to just get fucked?
I mean we all know the financial impact this lockdown has on us all but if you are single and have a high sex drive?
Look up 'masturbation' :)
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If you're tempted to take bookings, be aware of the risk of appearing in The Sun for doing so.
Apparently in today's paper, someone they name and someone they don't took a booking for a foursome with a named Premiership footballer and a friend...
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If you're tempted to take bookings, be aware of the risk of appearing in The Sun for doing so.
Apparently in today's paper, someone they name and someone they don't took a booking for a foursome with a named Premiership footballer and a friend...
they are scum for doing that, ive literally got no other option. Why can't they realise people don't want to do this some of just don't have any other choices x
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If you're tempted to take bookings, be aware of the risk of appearing in The Sun for doing so.
Apparently in today's paper, someone they name and someone they don't took a booking for a foursome with a named Premiership footballer and a friend...
I read that and shame on the girl who apparently was classy, Which he wanted but then...1 Is working on lockdown.
2 Sells her story and puts herself. Will she end up paying a huge fine. I have no problem with her working but then going to the newspaper and putting escorts into the limelight. And was she desperate that she had to work unlike MM who is struggling and feels ashamed to admit. No shame MM you are on survival mode .
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they are scum for doing that, ive literally got no other option. Why can't they realise people don't want to do this some of just don't have any other choices x
MM the girl who sold the story is to blame. Her greed is what's the problem and fame hungry younger girls.
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MM the girl who sold the story is to blame. Her greed is what's the problem and fame hungry younger girls.
The woman involved may well have been desperate for money too - neither you nor anyone else looking on know anything about her or her personal circumstances and the Scum will have twisted, manipulated and cherrypicked whatever shreds of information they had to suit the slackjawed, mouthbreathing pondlife that constitutes their readership. I wouldn't keep a rag like that wedged behind a pipe in the bog.
We'll have no more comments like the above. Move on, please.
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Everyone's opinion is allowed or is it not? The scummy paper, And I do not read any papers, Need someone to tell the stories. Like all the kiss and tells. Even if I was desperate and I have been. I got pride. So don't slam me for having an opinion. We all may agree to disagree but being told to not have an opinion is censorship and I have not gone out of my way to be mean. Have you read the article?
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And my opinion is from actually reading and seeing the photographs. The WOMAN took pics during the booking of the guy when she was told by the other girl that he was a well known footballer.
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Should I blackmail, Take pics of my rich clients and use it because I need money?
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We do not tolerate judgemental remarks about other sex workers on this board - that is not what SAAFE is for. The woman concerned may be here reading or posting for all we know, not that it makes any difference.
We all may agree to disagree but being told to not have an opinion is censorship and I have not gone out of my way to be mean.
Everyone has the right to have an opinion. That is not the same as having the right to post it here.
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Point taken. I was just having the opinion that right now we don't need the attention of the newspapers. Giving them fuel just gives them a loaded gun to try and catch us out at a time when we don't need the attention or criticism.Too many are already out to catch us up and judge us. My opinion was that we all need to not be picked out and used by the media or draw attention. Last I will comment on this. Sorry if I offended anyone with my last posts.
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I too have has regulars offer me to give money. A couple just want to give and a couple more advance on future meets.
I say no as have UC payments now but thought was nice of them.
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Linglau comes in and saves the day. 😁.
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i am ashamed to admit this but i still have to take bookings if i get any but haven't got any at the moment.
i started a new job but it was after the date to be applicable for furlough, and i was unemployed doing occasional escorting before. I am not on universal credit, didnt want to apply until i knew i had no work at my new job but i got the news friday so will apply monday.
but until then i cant survive, i pay weekly rent so i owe that tomorrow, i have no food but i can live without tht, but i also am running out of electric so i will have to take a job today or tomorrow if i can get it.
I will suffer badly if i get it as well, I am diabetic so might be a tricky recovery but yeah, some of us have no choice. my family are not well off so they cant help, and the friends i could ask helped out last week, i can't ask people to look after me every week until a payment comes through. i just hope im lucky and don't catch it :(
As Amy says if you have some money you’ve pegged for rent buy food and seek advice on how to deal with any landlord that doesn’t accept that in this situation they have to give you leeway in payment. Added consider contacting SWARM who have been collecting an emergency fund for sex workers without money as a result of this crisis and look up your local food bank; I believe both the Trussell Trust run a lot of food banks and I once got a food parcel from Citizens Advice when I was desperate and waiting for benefits so they might be worth a contact. Please don’t suffer alone.
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As Amy says if you have some money you’ve pegged for rent buy food and seek advice on how to deal with any landlord that doesn’t accept that in this situation they have to give you leeway in payment. Added consider contacting SWARM who have been collecting an emergency fund for sex workers without money as a result of this crisis and look up your local food bank; I believe both the Trussell Trust run a lot of food banks and I once got a food parcel from Citizens Advice when I was desperate and waiting for benefits so they might be worth a contact. Please don’t suffer alone.
Definitely try SWARM.
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Feeling a bit lost and low now with lockdown and not working or knowing if and when we can safely do so and without judgement. Now it's nearly 3 weeks lockdown and talk of another 6 weeks of lockdown. Many furloughed for 3 months and many Many of the older guys 60+ will hold off punting until end of year because there is no vaccine and those being more vulnerable. Italy is reported to be lifting lockdown in a few weeks but just for a few workers but not restaurants and bars or hotels.
Hope I don't come across negative I personally hate uncertainty and i like to plan and do what needs doing but with very little info on our future and safety to work, It's driving me a bit mad lol Maybe you ladies are wiser and have some wisdom to share and thoughts.
I'm now off for a walk (Exercise) and to get essential chocolate and wine and down to one roll of loo paper so best try and find some.
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Merged. We already have a relevant thread so all sex work related CV posts can be easily found in the same place.
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Many of the older guys 60+ will hold off punting until end of year because there is no vaccine and those being more vulnerable.
On the other side, there is research showing clients are above average in taking risks...
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On the other side, there is research showing clients are above average in taking risks...
The ones over 60 I know seem to be very calm about the situation, awaiting my comfort willing to go ahead and not considering themselves at risk or at least not afraid. Their concern is more for me and that we get together in the future which they hope is not too far away.
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That's the opposite of what I'm getting.
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On the other side, there is research showing clients are above average in taking risks...
That wouldn’t shock me. The majority of mine are married so those ones are already taking a big risk.
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Adultwork has now put this statement above everyones profile. In the same section when there is a - warning info of non genuine profile.
Coronavirus (COVID-19)
As the UK is under lockdown conditions with social distancing a mandatory requirement of all citizens, meeting other people other than those with whom you live is not allowed, by law.
This profile remains visible as offering Escort Services to give you the insight that under normal conditions this member engages in physical meetings. At this time you may use this insight to discuss any mutual interests via DirectCam, Phone Chat or the Site's built-in email system. The member's Available Today status can be used to ascertain their current ability to communicate with you.
By act of Parliament, in the UK, it is illegal to meet anyone with whom you do not share a household, so we have removed the facility to arrange a meeting with any advertiser and would strongly encourage you to stay at home, where possible.
More information on Coronavirus and AdultWork.com can be found here. More information on what you are permitted to do under the current conditions can be found on the Government's Website.
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So they'll still be making money from the AT function (and presumably phone number display?) for escorts who will obviously still be using it to arrange appointments, only escorts can't use the booking function which makes, some at least, feel subjectively safer and more secure. Good one AW.
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Like - I guess legally maybe they have to distance themselves, but its as transparent as a 'massage parlour'.
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Adultwork has now put this statement above everyones profile. In the same section when there is a - warning info of non genuine profile.
Coronavirus (COVID-19)
As the UK is under lockdown conditions with social distancing a mandatory requirement of all citizens, meeting other people other than those with whom you live is not allowed, by law.
This profile remains visible as offering Escort Services to give you the insight that under normal conditions this member engages in physical meetings. At this time you may use this insight to discuss any mutual interests via DirectCam, Phone Chat or the Site's built-in email system. The member's Available Today status can be used to ascertain their current ability to communicate with you.
By act of Parliament, in the UK, it is illegal to meet anyone with whom you do not share a household, so we have removed the facility to arrange a meeting with any advertiser and would strongly encourage you to stay at home, where possible.
More information on Coronavirus and AdultWork.com can be found here. More information on what you are permitted to do under the current conditions can be found on the Government's Website.
Lol this is a really half-assed attempt to comply. Why even bother? Don't know if they'll ever be forced to shut the site, IIRC they're based in Cyprus.
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While I think AW have behaved pretty badly (and slowly), it is also a big platform for camming and phone services, so I don't see why they should shut down completely - they should just have made it clear physical bookings weren't on a lot sooner.
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Corona affecting booking wise, I’m still getting 2/3 messages a day asking for bookings. I’m blacklisting all of them.
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Corona affecting booking wise, I’m still getting 2/3 messages a day asking for bookings. I’m blacklisting all of them.
Exactly, I have no number visible, but I'm still getting emails asking to meet :-\
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I haven't been getting requests to meet. However I did have one guy email asking if I did personalised vids, I said yes that's possible and said it would be me, solo.
Only to get one back asking if I had a male partner readily available as he wanted one of me giving a BJ.
My response? To say why on earth would I say I'm not doing meets then contravene the law to do something like this.
I mean Jesus, I don't even have any shared content on my profile for crying out loud.
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I don't judge the girls that are working after all everybody has their own reasons. And in any case are they actually getting any genuine new customers calling I doubt it. Regulars maybe.
This banner that Adultwork has put up just shows their complete lack of respect they have for the woman who advertise on their site. They are happy to be taking the girls' money like they have been doing since the lockdown was announced. They weren't getting enough girls paying for the available today fee so they put up that banner saying why not try our webcam and phone chat services. Our site is so wonderful we can cater for everything! Yes the girls are available to discuss bookings for months away! I don't even discuss bookings for the next day. I tell them to call back tomorrow.
They think they run the sex business in this country!
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I had a guy message on AW, My numbers not showing, Wanting domination. I wanted to change my Ad to seeking service for a few reasons. Have made money on content but not much and still not bothered with Webcamming.
Thing is if lockdown is lifted end of May we will still have rules about physical contact. So in theory most WGs may have to work with the risk still of getting CV-19 or going against government advice. I think that once hairdressers and nail salons and physio practices open then we could work but obviously we have a higher risk with kissing and such. Maybe it's time to think about gloryhole only and avoid kissing.
Talking of nails, I got SNS 2 weeks before lockdown and no idea how to get it off.
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Talking of nails, I got SNS 2 weeks before lockdown and no idea how to get it off.
How fortunate we are that Google is unaffected :)
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How fortunate we are that Google is unaffected :)
Lol, me too.
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BB this is the thing I'm worried about. It's going to be a gradual unlocking I think but also even when we are allowed to go back, there still isn't a vaccine for this thing yet. I know most of us will be ok but still, it's a worry.
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I'm unsure why so much of the focus seems to be on AW when (as already posted) they provide a platform for all sorts of non-contact services so that people who want to can try them if they don't offer them already. A brief look through my other ads on directories which are pretty much prossie only shows that they're all still up and running with no particular changes, and Vivastreet seem to be up to some bizarre cobblers as usual judging by their thread.
BB this is the thing I'm worried about. It's going to be a gradual unlocking I think but also even when we are allowed to go back, there still isn't a vaccine for this thing yet. I know most of us will be ok but still, it's a worry.
I'm waiting to see when the hairdressers and gyms and so on reopen. I'm seriously relieved that the week the Sunday Sport have apparently decided to publish my number without my knowledge or permission is one where my phone is switched off, mind.
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I'm waiting to see when the hairdressers and gyms and so on reopen. I'm seriously relieved that the week the Sunday Sport have apparently decided to publish my number without my knowledge or permission is one where my phone is switched off, mind.
There is an article on the Guardian today regarding this issue, manufacturing industries will open first, then health practitioners, lastly the entertainment industry. I'm not sure which sector we belong to :-)
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I think kissing will have to be off the menu until a vaccine is produced and I would want to attract more dom bookings.I just had a message on WhatsApp asking if I'm available, I reply "Seriously, No" He replies "Why?" Lol
We belong to mental and physical wellbeing of mens minds and bodies, A vital service :)
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I know we’re an industry but we also straddle just ordinary intimate contact/socialising seeing as many are just seeing handfuls of punters in our own homes etc, so I guess it also depends on when people are told they are allowed to see friends/lovers/socialise etc again. Like maybe cafes and pubs and entertainment centres can’t open but we could be allowed visitors for example, in which case I’d risk seeing some regs. I dunno I’ve not heard anything about this side of things.
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There is an article on the Guardian today regarding this issue, manufacturing industries will open first, then health practitioners, lastly the entertainment industry. I'm not sure which sector we belong to :-)
We manufacture orgasms? ;D
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I'm unsure why so much of the focus seems to be on AW when (as already posted) they provide a platform for all sorts of non-contact services so that people who want to can try them if they don't offer them already. A brief look through my other ads on directories which are pretty much prossie only shows that they're all still up and running with no particular changes, and Vivastreet seem to be up to some bizarre cobblers as usual judging by their thread.
I'm waiting to see when the hairdressers and gyms and so on reopen. I'm seriously relieved that the week the Sunday Sport have apparently decided to publish my number without my knowledge or permission is one where my phone is switched off, mind.
Poor Amy. How did they manage to do that? Hope you have another work phone.
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We manufacture orgasms? ;D
That's not going to fly ;D
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We manufacture orgasms? ;D
I mean...we do, but I've heard it all now... ;D
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We are sexual mental health workers that keep sexless marriages together so we are very important and we must return to our very important jobs very very soon. ;D
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We are sexual mental health workers that keep sexless marriages together so we are very important and we must return to our very important jobs very very soon. ;D
I love this :D
What a wonderful job description! Haha!
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Clap for sex workers haha.
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I would hate to think what some guys would do if escorts did not or could not exist. Many women would be forced to please men, More strained relationships and tension due to a partner having a low sex drive or due to menopause or something physical. Many guys I see have partners they care for but due to physical problems or illness sex is not possible. I actually had a guy come to me because his wife had MS and she actually picked me out for him. I wonder if off in the far future escorting will be legalised, I think it's so out if date now for it to be a taboo. Sex is not a bad thing between consenting adults. Cigarettes and alcohol are much worse habits for society.
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We are sexual mental health workers that keep sexless marriages together so we are very important and we must return to our very important jobs very very soon. ;D
Totally agree TT!
I also feel this way for single guys who see us. Some of them are very social awkward or haven’t a clue. I have a few regular single clients who although are very lovely and great guys who just haven’t got a clue what to do with women in general. Also a few are sadly on the wrong side of good looking and I know they gain great benefit from regular bookings and female intimacy even on the paid level.
I keep in touch with several regulars and most of them are starting to feel the pinch of being alone especially those without family or a social circle.
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I keep in touch with several regulars and most of them are starting to feel the pinch of being alone especially those without family or a social circle.
Funny you should say this I've had similar with a reg today x
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To be honest with
I would hate to think what some guys would do if escorts did not or could not exist. Many women would be forced to please men
I worry about some of this too. DV cases are already on a high and as I understand it femicide stats are already double in this period than what they are normally. I've been feeling sorry for myself because I can't earn money or go to the gym/pub but then I think about all this miserable marriages at best, and dangerous/rapey marriages at worse, and remember how bloody lucky I am comparably right now to be footloose and fancy free, to dredge up an old adage. Not that I necessarily think the lack of access to prostitutes makes this worse, so much as the being hemmed in and isolated and less access to social services etc
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To be honest with
I worry about some of this too. DV cases are already on a high and as I understand it femicide stats are already double in this period than what they are normally. I've been feeling sorry for myself because I can't earn money or go to the gym/pub but then I think about all this miserable marriages at best, and dangerous/rapey marriages at worse, and remember how bloody lucky I am comparably right now to be footloose and fancy free, to dredge up an old adage. Not that I necessarily think the lack of access to prostitutes makes this worse, so much as the being hemmed in and isolated and less access to social services etc
I totally agree on the DV, Also anxiety and depression and stress will be higher too. And these things can amplify violence and other harmful habits. I spent many years isolated and at home 6 days a week due to caring for a mentally ill family member and my mental health suffered.
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I think we're on extremely thin ice with the suggestion that punters are more likely to abuse women than non-punters; the abolitionist lobby have been trotting that old 'rapists with an outlet' shit out for years. Some punters will be abusive, and so will some cyclists, gamers, birdwatchers and people with all sorts of other ideas about how they spend their free time, and this idea that men are basically no better than farm animals and unable to control their behaviour really needs dissolving every time it comes up - it demeans us all as well as excusing the real arseholes.
If I had a single regular who I suspected would be an abuser (and I realise they're not that easy to spot), he wouldn't be seeing me again. I have no doubt that I've come across a few in the last twenty or so years, but if I spent my days in any job where most of the people I met were men I would expect the proportions to be about the same.
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I think we're on extremely thin ice with the suggestion that punters are more likely to abuse women than non-punters; the abolitionist lobby have been trotting that old 'rapists with an outlet' shit out for years. Some punters will be abusive, and so will some cyclists, gamers, birdwatchers and people with all sorts of other ideas about how they spend their free time, and this idea that men are basically no better than farm animals and unable to control their behaviour really needs dissolving every time it comes up - it demeans us all as well as excusing the real arseholes.
If I had a single regular who I suspected would be an abuser (and I realise they're not that easy to spot), he wouldn't be seeing me again. I have no doubt that I've come across a few in the last twenty or so years, but if I spent my days in any job where most of the people I met were men I would expect the proportions to be about the same.
I agree that there is no reason to believe punters are any more likely to be rapists than any other kind of man (and that was the general tenor and direction of my point). However I've heard that implication put out there on both sounds of that irritatingly divisive political conversation; those who say prostitution must end because punters are all rapists and those who may prostitution must flourish to prevent other women being raped.
As I say, I think women being pressured into sex and other abuses is a current heightened problem now and as I say, I think this has much more to do with being isolated and in lockdown than it is to do with lack of access to commercial sex (given as there still seems to be quite a number of women still offering services in any case).
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Oh I have no doubt at all that the above is true (and just to temporarily derail further in case anybody reading finds it helpful, train companies are currently offering free travel for anyone fleeing domestic violence - there are details on the Women's Aid site), but like you, I'm not seeing the sex work link.
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I did not imply rape but sexual tension and pestering. Rape and reasons for are complex, About power and other psychological reasons too complex for me to analyse. I don't try to understand the inner workings of men, Not sure women are the most complex of the two sexes.
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I think we're on extremely thin ice with the suggestion that punters are more likely to abuse women than non-punters; the abolitionist lobby have been trotting that old 'rapists with an outlet' shit out for years. Some punters will be abusive, and so will some cyclists, gamers, birdwatchers and people with all sorts of other ideas about how they spend their free time, and this idea that men are basically no better than farm animals and unable to control their behaviour really needs dissolving every time it comes up - it demeans us all as well as excusing the real arseholes.
If I had a single regular who I suspected would be an abuser (and I realise they're not that easy to spot), he wouldn't be seeing me again. I have no doubt that I've come across a few in the last twenty or so years, but if I spent my days in any job where most of the people I met were men I would expect the proportions to be about the same.
Absolutely
I do wonder why some people do this type.of work when there is clear dislike towards men, particularly the type to see us working girls.
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I for one like my job and a lot of my clients, and am as inclined to like or dislike individual men as any other kind of person, but I don't give a hoot if other escorts feel differently about their punters, that's their business.
Anyway, I think seeing as it looks like lockdown is going to be extended (painful seeing as how beautiful the weather is) so I'm now trying to seriously amend my thinking to come to terms with the fact that I won't be working for a real long time. Maybe it'll just be another few weeks but because I was mentally tiring myself checking the guardian for any clues as to when this will soften ever few hours, I've decided its best just to assume the worst and make peace with that and hope for a nice surprise. Maybe even try cam again.
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I agree burly. I do not hate men and have met awful people both male and female in all walks of my life, jobs and personal.
As to the lockdown, none of us know when life may start getting back to anything resembling normal so assumptions and expectations are futile. Optimism is all we have while we get used to the lack of freedom during the sunny weather.
If or when we can work again without worry then I will welcome back my regular clients and hope to meet some new ones. A few exceptions though regarding the men I thought were good but have tried to see me during isolation. I am quite sad about that.
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Sadly this time brings out the worst in clients. I had the most awful email off a client telling me how I am a money hungry whore working during this time. He miss read my available light for phone chat as available for escort and gave me so much abuse! I literally said we do not need people like him policing our profiles and to leave us alone.
I’m so mad at how men can judge us for even working online at this time and yes I show for escort but I make it CLEAR there are no meets. Again goes back to men not reading profiles.
I’ll be so glad once this is over. The amount of requests I have had has increased tenfold and it’s shocking to think some if not all of these men will have met an escort during this time. It makes me question if I should return once we’re in the clear.
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Sadly this time brings out the worst in clients. I had the most awful email off a client telling me how I am a money hungry whore working during this time. He miss read my available light for phone chat as available for escort and gave me so much abuse! I literally said we do not need people like him policing our profiles and to leave us alone.
I’m so mad at how men can judge us for even working online at this time and yes I show for escort but I make it CLEAR there are no meets. Again goes back to men not reading profiles.
I’ll be so glad once this is over. The amount of requests I have had has increased tenfold and it’s shocking to think some if not all of these men will have met an escort during this time. It makes me question if I should return once we’re in the clear.
There is as much chance of meeting a punter who has fucked others bareback.
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I don't hate hate, although I am a lesbian.
This lockdown has forced me to see what it's like living without the escorting work. I'm mainly a cam girl these days, and I've been too afraid to quit the escorting incase I couldn't survive on that alone, but I'm actually managing ok (and without savings...)
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There is as much chance of meeting a punter who has fucked others bareback.
I totally agree but that is out of sight out of mind you know? This isn’t and just brings the risks to light. In my opinion anyways.
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Sadly this time brings out the worst in clients. I had the most awful email off a client telling me how I am a money hungry whore working during this time. He miss read my available light for phone chat as available for escort and gave me so much abuse! I literally said we do not need people like him policing our profiles and to leave us alone.
I’m so mad at how men can judge us for even working online at this time and yes I show for escort but I make it CLEAR there are no meets. Again goes back to men not reading profiles.
I’ll be so glad once this is over. The amount of requests I have had has increased tenfold and it’s shocking to think some if not all of these men will have met an escort during this time. It makes me question if I should return once we’re in the clear.
Hi SWgirl, I also had a guy message me on the site accusing me of working because I had my phone chat light on, I put him straight and told him he should read profiles and look to see what the green light is for before he starts messaging lady's and hurling abuse at them "Green light quite clearly says "available for phone chat now" , he then messaged back after reading my reply and my profile and apologised saying that yes he should have checked before he insulted me and he would like to meet after this virus has gone because he didn't mean it!!! well he has no chance of ever meeting me after the abuse he sent, why do guys think they can hurl abuse at you and think that you would be willing to meet with them, some guys are just plain ignorant and think well I said sorry so its ok now he is now blocked
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I have always had the mindset that in life men will always come and go, Doors will close and open and as long as you have your own back things will come good. But the most important thing is that we care for our bodies and mind. I do feel that this year is going to be utterly rubbish for us WGs, I would love to be proved wrong. And I find that we are some of the strongest women mentally for sure from our life experiences. Thank you for letting me ask questions and fail with my rants or off topic stuff. But thanks for having a place to come and chat and ask questions.
We never stop learning and it's great to get some wisdom :)
Darcy may I ask how you are now finding you are better without escorting?
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I'm finding it really hard to see how to continue escorting this year. All the uncertainty of no vaccine, Job loss and a year of financial struggle for a percentage of clients. No clear plan from goverment on when we are allowed to socialize and get up close and personal with strangers. Also the added stigma of working now working recklessly with CV-19. I think the goverment want to have us all using Cov tracking apps on our phone. I feel like freedom and privacy is really going to be a privilege of the past and already our profession is already still a taboo and most wish to keep it discreet.
I don't think we will be getting a full end to lockdown until after the summer.
Has anyone decided to give up in escorting this year and start next year or later this year?
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I think most people are able to accept that for now we just have to be patient and see what happens; there is no concrete 'plan' because nobody else knows either?
I can only speak for myself, but I'm certainly not writing the entire year off in mid April and intend to get back to work as soon as it's practical to do so whether that's June, September or Christmas. In the meantime I'm just doing my best to keep plodding on like everybody else - contingency planning is fine and sensible, but constantly speculating on events I know nothing about and can't possibly predict based on some vaguely formed table scraps I've picked up from random media sources is not a worthwhile use of my time, so I'm not doing it.
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Yep, I don't think it's worth making any sort of firm plans, apart from applying for e.g. a supermarket or farm job, or UC, if you need money. A concert I was due to attend in May has been rescheduled for September but I have no intention of booking anything else until a bit of time has passed. At the moment, I'm just hoping lockdown is at least partially lifted by my birthday at the end of June!
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I'm not writing off the year either!
I plan to return to work as soon as practicable. I have accommodation bookings in place from August and am looking forward to getting back on the road. Every day spent in lockdown is one day closer to normality.
Under normal circumstances, I find it difficult to take time off so being forced to has allowed me to reevaluate how much I actually need to work when I go back.
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I'm just more bothered as I have to decide in 2 weeks if I keep my work flat or not, Landlord was trying to get me to stay for obvious reasons it's not going to be easy now renting out places. If I was just using hotels and such I'd be more chilled and focus on taking the summer off and start Autumn onwards. I just don't want to pay 2 months rent and not work as it will just be money going into landlords pocket and out of my savings. I been offered some part time work locally so that will keep things ticking over.
I think I need to go back to not reading online newspapers, Not help at all.
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I just hope & pray to every god that it returns to some semblance of normality, eventually x
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I have always had the mindset that in life men will always come and go, Doors will close and open and as long as you have your own back things will come good. But the most important thing is that we care for our bodies and mind. I do feel that this year is going to be utterly rubbish for us WGs, I would love to be proved wrong. And I find that we are some of the strongest women mentally for sure from our life experiences. Thank you for letting me ask questions and fail with my rants or off topic stuff. But thanks for having a place to come and chat and ask questions.
We never stop learning and it's great to get some wisdom :)
Darcy may I ask how you are now finding you are better without escorting?
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Of course. I've just realised that I don't need to bring in as much money as I'd previously thought, and camming is still going steady my end, so I'm still earning. I also feel a bit better mentally and physically too. My head feels clearer. I will probably start seeing people again in Autumn, but put my prices up...
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My friend worked over this past Easter weekend from her flat in London... She said it was slow but steady
I guess it’s ok for some during this period.
I also understand most hotels in London like Travelodge , jury inn and ibis are being by the govt to house nhs staff and the homeless. And you have to show u an nhs staff or part of their vulnerable group they are helping.
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I'm just more bothered as I have to decide in 2 weeks if I keep my work flat or not, Landlord was trying to get me to stay for obvious reasons it's not going to be easy now renting out places. If I was just using hotels and such I'd be more chilled and focus on taking the summer off and start Autumn onwards. I just don't want to pay 2 months rent and not work as it will just be money going into landlords pocket and out of my savings. I been offered some part time work locally so that will keep things ticking over.
I think I need to go back to not reading online newspapers, Not help at all.
take a room short term! everything is cheap right now...maybe better than hotel?
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I'm just more bothered as I have to decide in 2 weeks if I keep my work flat or not, Landlord was trying to get me to stay for obvious reasons it's not going to be easy now renting out places. If I was just using hotels and such I'd be more chilled and focus on taking the summer off and start Autumn onwards. I just don't want to pay 2 months rent and not work as it will just be money going into landlords pocket and out of my savings. I been offered some part time work locally so that will keep things ticking over.
Is this a working/prossie flat where the landlord is knowingly renting it for you to work from, or a normal let (I know it's already come up when we were further back in the thread but I can't remember if you said)? Mine is a normal let with a secure tenancy and I'm keeping it unless I have no other option, but everybody's situation is different - my rent is already paid up for months, apart from anything else.
If it's the former I'd be inclined to call her bluff and tell her you can't afford to keep paying for it if you're not able to work and see if she would offer you a knockdown rate; she'll know fine well that she's unlikely to find anybody else and may not want the trouble of trying, as well as the risk of having it sit empty and costing her money? That's if you like the flat and want to keep it obviously - if you think you can easily find another once you're back at work and you have suitable hotels around you I would let it go.
I think I need to go back to not reading online newspapers, Not help at all.
Yes, that would be a plan :)
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In korea and china people who had covid are testing positive again, many people are not becoming immune after infection or immunity fades quickly. Big trouble for older clients which are most clients, kissing transmits it so if I ever get back in the saddle I do not want to be responsible for putting anyone in intensive care or a coffin. The escort market will never be the same since a second wave of infection is inevitable.
Not sure what I am gonna do, my job ended due to covid and escorting ended. Deal drugs lol? Blackmarket toilet paper smuggler? :'(
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Sorry if this has been already covered (tried to have a look through previous pages but my dyslexia makes it difficult to read a lot of text in one go and I often miss things anyway) but two of my regular clients have been bugging me about getting bookings recently. I’ve obviously said no, but they were persistent at first because they are obviously gagging for it but I stood my ground and accepted my decision. I’m just now reconsidering when this is all over if I want them back as clients, as they where prepared to risk their health and my own. I’ve never had problems with them before in anyway. One books an hour every month, sometimes another hour. The other books 45 mins every week. It would be a shame to loose them business wise. (Neither are hard work either) But I’m not sure how I feel about them pushing for a booking at this time. I’m I being over sensitive?
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Hi Lola. I'm personally not offended that my regulars still want to meet me, and I'll be keeping them when I go back to work.
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Thanks for advice Amy much appreciated, It is always good to get a different opinion to the one knocking about in my head. I just caught up with thread.
Landlord does not know I'm escorting so I think I will do as you said and call his bluff. I am paying way over for the flat and he didn't make me jump through loads of hoops or ask for references so I think he knows it will be hard to get what I pay now or future. His a business man so he might see that it's better to help me out and reap future income in a few months. He suggested I pay what I can and add the rest on to monthly ongoing rent say 1500 a month which I'm not sure about really. I'd have to be on my back and knees an awful lot lol And I got caring commitments too. But this current situations made me realise I should of worked a bit harder and smarter.
I suppose what will be will be and due to my ex saying he can check my AW profile as it's open to the public I will do a new profile, He is keeping a diary of my bookings thinking that when feedback is left that it's on the day the booking takes place. He definitely is not Miss Marple at his detective work but a pain in my derriere.
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Of course. I've just realised that I don't need to bring in as much money as I'd previously thought, and camming is still going steady my end, so I'm still earning. I also feel a bit better mentally and physically too. My head feels clearer. I will probably start seeing people again in Autumn, but put my prices up...
Excellent that camming is going well. Had you already had experience? I've heard girls saying it's pointless without already having done it and a fan base. Plus I do not want my face on cam because it's easy for someone, my ex or ex stalker, to screenshot me. My private gallery and clips are starting to pick up but my daily viewing on graph is slashed 50% down. Like I mentioned I'm thinking of deleting my profile and starting again, Possibly like you start in the Autumn if I have to give up work flat.
But cool you are feeling positive :)
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My view, when a client is pushy in any situation there's a control problem brewing. Particularly regulars.
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My view, when a client is pushy in any situation there's a control problem brewing. Particularly regulars.
Absolutely agree with this in most occasions. If a client, regular or not has over stepped I haven’t paused in telling the where to go. But this is such I strange and different time, and again I have never had a problem with them before. The weekly has been a regular I reckon for at least 2 years ( don’t keep strict records lol) and I’ve never had a problem with him.
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I'm finding it really hard to see how to continue escorting this year. All the uncertainty of no vaccine, Job loss and a year of financial struggle for a percentage of clients. No clear plan from goverment on when we are allowed to socialize and get up close and personal with strangers. Also the added stigma of working now working recklessly with CV-19. I think the goverment want to have us all using Cov tracking apps on our phone. I feel like freedom and privacy is really going to be a privilege of the past and already our profession is already still a taboo and most wish to keep it discreet.
I don't think we will be getting a full end to lockdown until after the summer.
Has anyone decided to give up in escorting this year and start next year or later this year?
On the flip side a lot of other escorts are declining to work/been put out of business so escorting may actually become more lucrative. Just wait until June, people will have lost interest in ratting on people by then. As for this app i've been hearing about just don't install it on your phone.
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I'm just more bothered as I have to decide in 2 weeks if I keep my work flat or not, Landlord was trying to get me to stay for obvious reasons it's not going to be easy now renting out places. If I was just using hotels and such I'd be more chilled and focus on taking the summer off and start Autumn onwards. I just don't want to pay 2 months rent and not work as it will just be money going into landlords pocket and out of my savings. I been offered some part time work locally so that will keep things ticking over.
I think I need to go back to not reading online newspapers, Not help at all.
I stopped reading the news 2 weeks ago. Feel much better.
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Sorry if this has been already covered (tried to have a look through previous pages but my dyslexia makes it difficult to read a lot of text in one go and I often miss things anyway) but two of my regular clients have been bugging me about getting bookings recently. I’ve obviously said no, but they were persistent at first because they are obviously gagging for it but I stood my ground and accepted my decision. I’m just now reconsidering when this is all over if I want them back as clients, as they where prepared to risk their health and my own. I’ve never had problems with them before in anyway. One books an hour every month, sometimes another hour. The other books 45 mins every week. It would be a shame to loose them business wise. (Neither are hard work either) But I’m not sure how I feel about them pushing for a booking at this time. I’m I being over sensitive?
I have blocked regs for asking to see me during this time because I feel like if they don't take my/their health seriously now then they don't at other times either. However, that's my personal preference and if you can't afford to lose them/don't want to, then instead I'd be looking at how they handled it. Did they accept straight away when you told them no? If so, give them another chance when possible. If they're bugging you and not taking no for an answer, it's time to bin them. Not because of what's going on, but because they should respect your decision the first time you tell them.
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On the flip side a lot of other escorts are declining to work/been put out of business so escorting may actually become more lucrative. Just wait until June, people will have lost interest in ratting on people by then. As for this app i've been hearing about just don't install it on your phone.
I think things will balance out and we will go back to how we were: slowish but getting by. I think most sex workers will go back to work too. Or if some don't they'll be others coming into the biz to pay their bills.
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I have blocked regs for asking to see me during this time because I feel like if they don't take my/their health seriously now then they don't at other times either. However, that's my personal preference and if you can't afford to lose them/don't want to, then instead I'd be looking at how they handled it. Did they accept straight away when you told them no? If so, give them another chance when possible. If they're bugging you and not taking no for an answer, it's time to bin them. Not because of what's going on, but because they should respect your decision the first time you tell them.
This is my stance too. Regrettably those who have wanted bookings when they know I am on lockdown have persisted in trying. The outcome of that is they will not be meeting me again, ever.
Over the last couple of days I have also had 3 regs attempt to engage in texting even though they know bookings are off the menu. I do not fall for that trick as they only want some free sexy chat. Frustrated and sex starved they may be but I do not give a free anything.
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I stopped reading the news 2 weeks ago. Feel much better.
I not read newspaper now as every page all bad news about Covid.
Only watch news on TV once day.
Already feel better as not hearing bad things.
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how long does swarm take to pay into bank ,i had phone call yesterday ,take care stay safe.
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i have actually applied, thankyou x
MM how are you getting on? Did you have enough for your rent in the end?
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how long does swarm take to pay into bank ,i had phone call yesterday ,take care stay safe.
What kind of number did they call from ie was it withheld x
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SWARM told me in their email that it takes c two weeks to process. Not sure how long after that they pay into our account.
There has been a long queue of applicants apparently. I live in the middle of the country and the amount is £200. Hope this helps.
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What kind of number did they call from ie was it withheld x
I would like to know this. Wonder what time they operate in calling.
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I actually got a reasonably good amount on UC, which was a pleasant surprise. The housing element seems to be the biggest amount, which is a relief during this covid-19 situation x
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Members of the cabinet have warned that some form of social distancing could be in place until we get a vaccine but as people know that could be 1/2 years away. Of course what exactly that means is **shrugs** and the questions I have that follow from that (like, can we get the self employment grant for that length of time? Unlikely!) are multiple. I would struggle to survive on universal credit and I'm a full time student who does escorting because I can get a full time wage on part time hours and not obstruct my studies and so trying to switch to a supermarket job or even cam would not work, unless I put my studies, basically, in the bin, the idea of which breaks my heart. Feeling depressed this morning. :'(
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Members of the cabinet have warned that some form of social distancing could be in place until we get a vaccine but as people know that could be 1/2 years away. Of course what exactly that means is **shrugs** and the questions I have that follow from that (like, can we get the self employment grant for that length of time? Unlikely!) are multiple. I would struggle to survive on universal credit and I'm a full time student who does escorting because I can get a full time wage on part time hours and not obstruct my studies and so trying to switch to a supermarket job or even cam would not work, unless I put my studies, basically, in the bin, the idea of which breaks my heart. Feeling depressed this morning. :'(
There WILL be men who ignore this and I don't think anyone can realistically expect people to do this for this long. After all, a lot of people are ignoring the rules now!
It just depends on yourself and what you feel comfortable with. If you don't want any intimate contact until a vaccine comes out then that's entirely your decision. But I think a large amount of people will just carry on as normal and yes, there may be reduced bookings, that's probably a certainty, but there will be men still calling.
I would be more worried about our advertising platforms and whether they're going to carry on restrictions for how many years/months it takes. And to be honest? A vaccine is not going to wipe out all deaths anyway ::) It doesn't with the normal flu anyway.
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SWARM told me in their email that it takes c two weeks to process. Not sure how long after that they pay into our account.
There has been a long queue of applicants apparently. I live in the middle of the country and the amount is £200. Hope this helps.
They've published updated figures today. 520 people helped. 450 in the queue.
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The flu vaccine is a bit different though, as there are so many strains and they just make a best guess each year which to include in the jab. Any SARS-CoV-2 vaccine would be specific and thus hopefully a lot more effective.
I think wearing masks in public will become common, if not de riguer, but the economy wouldn't survive a prolonged lockdown. Jobs like hairdressing, nail technicians, physiotherapy etc. all involve close physical contact.
For punting, I think it will have to come down to common sense and minimising risks, i.e. don't escort/punt if you have anyone vulnerable in your life, check your temperature etc.
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The flu vaccine is a bit different though, as there are so many strains and they just make a best guess each year which to include in the jab. Any SARS-CoV-2 vaccine would be specific and thus hopefully a lot more effective.
I think wearing masks in public will become common, if not de riguer, but the economy wouldn't survive a prolonged lockdown. Jobs like hairdressing, nail technicians, physiotherapy etc. all involve close physical contact.
For punting, I think it will have to come down to common sense and minimising risks, i.e. don't escort/punt if you have anyone vulnerable in your life, check your temperature etc.
Worryingly Covid seems to be mutating into different strains and an ''effective'' vaccine could be several years away. I think the Oxford vaccine by Autumn is pie in the sky, it could be as dangerous to risk an untested vaccine as risking catching Covid but they will rush it through anyways.
Masks yes!! I already want some cute custom masks, Etsy has some and I have ordered a pile of different ones.
For work an (((Infrared Digital Temperature Thermometer))) is on my shopping list but it seems they think millions infected developed no symptoms. If it is confirmed people can get reinfected as the Koreans seem to think then physical punting is hazardous and I will be using cams or quitting.
Currently waiting to see if they will pay me for being self employed in June, thankfully I have 15k savings to keep me going for a year
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Yes my reasons for not working are a mix of obviously not wanting to not be helpful to the cause whilst I have the option not to be, but also because I don't want to be the victim of any witch hunting rag press, or punters or others, who disproportionately target still working sex workers. Fears about reprisals, or getting caught or whatever. But as people are saying, I can't see that many sex workers giving up for a whole year or more especially seeing as adequate financial support is hardly going to last that long. I just wish I better knew when would be a good time to go back or what 'loosening restrictions' might mean and whether they'd apply to us. I know I should just not get myself anxious and just wait to see things play out but I don't even know yet how much UC I am entitled to yet and savings are taking a real hit.
And to top it off it bugs me to get emails from guys I seen before being 'just checking you're not working because you know you shouldn't be' :-X Not helpful.
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I just got an email from a guy on AW asking whether I'm working. He's sent me emails before but has never actually met me, so why does he think now is going to be any different ::) ::) ::)
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UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab says the country's lockdown will continue for at least three more weeks.
Todays press conference.
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The flu vaccine is a bit different though, as there are so many strains and they just make a best guess each year which to include in the jab. Any SARS-CoV-2 vaccine would be specific and thus hopefully a lot more effective.
I think wearing masks in public will become common, if not de riguer, but the economy wouldn't survive a prolonged lockdown. Jobs like hairdressing, nail technicians, physiotherapy etc. all involve close physical contact.
For punting, I think it will have to come down to common sense and minimising risks, i.e. don't escort/punt if you have anyone vulnerable in your life, check your temperature etc.
Or wear face mask in booking not provide kissing if those who do kissing. Suck and Fuck booking. The face to face sexual postions be off the card so reverse cowgirl - bent over sex. They get their release and off they go. Or off you go if you do outcalls. Just a thought.
Now those who don't provide incalls like myself wait till hotels re open and things begin to slightly improve in the UK and around the world.
I return to my civy job agency once we know in future what work is allowed and not allowed. Escort on the side.
This industry will never die out as it was there during the western times and years before that and years before. Here we are it is still alive.
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The flu vaccine is a bit different though, as there are so many strains and they just make a best guess each year which to include in the jab. Any SARS-CoV-2 vaccine would be specific and thus hopefully a lot more effective.
I think wearing masks in public will become common, if not de riguer, but the economy wouldn't survive a prolonged lockdown. Jobs like hairdressing, nail technicians, physiotherapy etc. all involve close physical contact.
For punting, I think it will have to come down to common sense and minimising risks, i.e. don't escort/punt if you have anyone vulnerable in your life, check your temperature etc.
Its a flu virus and it can mutate, I would refuse to take any vaccine, how do you know what's inside that? if you've done any research you will see these sick people test on the poor population of India and South Africa. The virus will disappear as soon as it came. I know I won't stop working as soon as things open up and there will be a long queue of men waiting...
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I'm not on AW and don't get emails but if I did get one "checking up" on me, I'd laugh and think what an idiot. If I want to work, I will.
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Its a flu virus and it can mutate, I would refuse to take any vaccine, how do you know what's inside that? if you've done any research you will see these sick people test on the poor population of India and South Africa. The virus will disappear as soon as it came. I know I won't stop working as soon as things open up and there will be a long queue of men waiting...
I'm a microbiologist and work partly in medical research... SARS-CoV-2 is a coronavirus, not an influenza virus, and it mutates much more slowly. Clinical trials are run all over the world, including on plenty of paid participants in the west. No vaccine would be available in the UK unless it was safe and effective.
Wearing a mask during a booking is pretty pointless unless it's a well-fitted, medical grade one - for the general population, they're more to stop you spreading anything, not protecting you.
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As social distancing will be going on for a while, I've personally decided I cant wait a year to work so have already started making preparations.
There is no full proof preventive measures, but I'm getting an elective thermometer, plenty of hand soap and so on.
Also any signs of a cough or anything and will terminate the booking.
Some of you will disagree with me but I genuinely cannot hold out forever on this.
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Everyone posting on this forum is doing so as a sex worker and nothing else - I could claim that I used to play centre half for Borussia Mönchengladbach, but that wouldn't make it true. And if it was it would still have fuck all to.do.with sex work.
It's been a few pages since we've had to remind about posts staying on topic and relevant to the thread title. Please keep posts on topic and relevant to the thread title :).
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As social distancing will be going on for a while, I've personally decided I cant wait a year to work so have already started making preparations.
There is no full proof preventive measures, but I'm getting an elective thermometer, plenty of hand soap and so on.
Also any signs of a cough or anything and will terminate the booking.
Some of you will disagree with me but I genuinely cannot hold out forever on this.
I'm thinking similarly. I'll wait to see in June what I am entitled to vis-à-vis the SE grant but I don't trust this government on social security so I'm not treating that lost earnings thing as a given. Thus I am reconciling myself now to the fact that I may have to go back to work before the end of lockdown and have to learn to brush off the judgement and witchhunt bollocks and just do the only things I can; put up prices, keep to a smaller number of bookings, ask and trust clients to be honest about age and vulnerability, and wash hands and provide sanitizer.
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I'm thinking similarly. I'll wait to see in June what I am entitled to vis-à-vis the SE grant but I don't trust this government on social security so I'm not treating that lost earnings thing as a given. Thus I am reconciling myself now to the fact that I may have to go back to work before the end of lockdown and have to learn to brush off the judgement and witchhunt bollocks and just do the only things I can; put up prices, keep to a smaller number of bookings, ask and trust clients to be honest about age and vulnerability, and wash hands and provide sanitizer.
Dont worry about what others think.
I've also got an account with a large pornsite where I can upload videos and this generates some money but it's not quick like cash in your pocket type.
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For those planning to continue / go back to work soon: where will you be working from(obviously not asking the address or towns lol, but like ... from your homes ? Apartments ?)
Personally I offered incalls from hotels only.
Hotels/com doesn’t allow bookings at the moment for hotels I usually use.
Any advice ?
Looks like I’ll also have to go back to work during this extension or just as it ends. X
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For those planning to continue / go back to work soon: where will you be working from(obviously not asking the address or towns lol, but like ... from your homes ? Apartments ?)
Personally I offered incalls from hotels only.
Hotels/com doesn’t allow bookings at the moment for hotels I usually use.
Any advice ?
Looks like I’ll also have to go back to work during this extension or just as it ends. X
Personally I work from my own apartment.
Hotels will be an issue until they can open.
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Dont worry about what others think.
A thousand times yes. You can always change your mind the day these others' pious sanctimony extends to paying your bills.
For those planning to continue / go back to work soon: where will you be working from(obviously not asking the address or towns lol, but like ... from your homes ? Apartments ?)
Personally I offered incalls from hotels only.
Hotels/com doesn’t allow bookings at the moment for hotels I usually use.
Any advice ?
Looks like I’ll also have to go back to work during this extension or just as it ends. X
I'm lucky to have a work flat, but might you find anything in the ads here, or could you maybe rent somewhere just for six months (even sharing with somebody else?) that's easy to get to and not too costly? There are a couple of posters on the thread not sure about keeping their work flats when they don't know when they'll next be working - you could even PM and ask if they might be anywhere near you?
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For those planning to continue / go back to work soon: where will you be working from(obviously not asking the address or towns lol, but like ... from your homes ? Apartments ?)
Personally I offered incalls from hotels only.
Hotels/com doesn’t allow bookings at the moment for hotels I usually use.
Any advice ?
Looks like I’ll also have to go back to work during this extension or just as it ends. X
I have never wanted to work from home but when the schools are allowed back I’m doing jusy that in school hours only. I dont know if hotels will be open but I will be wanting to do a couple jobs a day to keep my head above water and keeping costs down is imperative.
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I would be very cautious about working before lockdown is over if your location isn't subtle. I'm on a quiet street, and it's now even more obvious if a stranger parks up in a car and knocks on a door. There's the odd delivery driver, but that's it. I'm not even a type to curtain twitch - it's just really obvious.
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I would be very cautious about working before lockdown is over if your location isn't subtle. I'm on a quiet street, and it's now even more obvious if a stranger parks up in a car and knocks on a door. There's the odd delivery driver, but that's it. I'm not even a type to curtain twitch - it's just really obvious.
It's a very good point. Although I will be only seeing 1 or 2 a day tops. I'm not expecting more then that.
I want to just keep myself ticking over for now.
The income i get from pornhub basically covers my rent. So I'm fortunate that I can be a bit picky and see only an very limited number of people.
I think many girls (including those here) whilst not admitting it are also weighing up options to gradually see a select few clients just to generate some livable income.
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I decided to give up my flat and stop working its just not worth the risk. I don't think that it's a given not getting this virus from popping to the shops and no way to work 100% safe either, Its a gamble and if it was a matter of starving then I'd work but I value my health and I've survived on much less. The fact that 2 households on my street have lost people under 60 to CV-19 made me think that it's not worth putting myself in a position to be close to strangers that if punting during lockdown obviously don't care for their health.
Now another 3 weeks, I'm resolving myself to putting escorting on hold. End the feeling anxious about when I can work and having a flat.
I honestly feel for anyone feeling anxious with this unknowing and uncertainty. And I just hope that any girls that have to work are safe and not taken advantage of. Also your health is your future and future ability to earn. I'm taking some super good vitamins for my immune system, So if working make sure you support your immune system.
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I care about my health too but its worth remembering that it is still the case, however awful it is for those poor people and their families who are are vulnerable, that the vast vast majority of people who get it won't have more than mild to tolerably medium symptoms and the lockdown is less about everyone avoiding getting it in and of itself, but to prevent too much stress on the nhs dealing with the more severe cases. I do think not being stressed and self care is great though.
Thankfully my place is very discreet, lots and lots of apartments and lots of young people coming and going. I might consider, when I go back only seeing younger guys maybe so they stand out less perhaps. Because even when lockdown is loosened I still want to be more vigilant than normal because I feel the curtain twitching that's been going on about hookers, sunbathers, whateverers, won't just slip away over night.
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I think many girls (including those here) whilst not admitting it are also weighing up options to gradually see a select few clients just to generate some livable income.
If I knew they were only seeing me and I knew their employment wasn't high risk like working in a hospital or supermarket I would probably risk it but there are so few guys loyal to a single escort, they are like gold dust. Seems everyday I am reading on Twitter about girls in their 20s and 30s dying in this country to covid-19 and not just nurses.
I have savings but I will need cash sooner or later, but also don't want to catch it just incase I pass it on to someone elderly or am genetically unfortunate and it hits me hard. That being said it is starting to look like life will not return to normal as the genie is out of the bottle.
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May I ask burlesque, Are you avoiding kissing and trying positions to avoid clients faces, Making them shower?I'm actually back to feeling really horny now I've been off a month and tempted to hook up with a friend with benefits but sods law I'd probably catch CV.
Another reason I'm also nervous about when to start back is the black listing of AW profiles that go available and my good regulars might be put off as most have sent messages to say they are glad to see I've not available.
All so conflicting.
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May I ask burlesque, Are you avoiding kissing and trying positions to avoid clients faces, Making them shower?I'm actually back to feeling really horny now I've been off a month and tempted to hook up with a friend with benefits but sods law I'd probably catch CV.
Another reason I'm also nervous about when to start back is the black listing of AW profiles that go available and my good regulars might be put off as most have sent messages to say they are glad to see I've not available.
All so conflicting.
You have to do what's best for you.
Any sane, reasonable person, friend, foe or fellow escort would understand that and if they dont I would question them.
I am.going to be providing my usual service as to be honest if they are coming into my apartment and fucking me then kissing wont be preventing catching CV.
I will use other preventive measure like checking symptoms and using my shower regardless if they had 1 before they arrived.
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BB maybe they are saying they're glad you're not working for your own sake and not doing this ridiculous checking up thing for other reasons.
Louise I'd say kissing is a definite no-no.
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BB maybe they are saying they're glad you're not working for your own sake and not doing this ridiculous checking up thing for other reasons.
Louise I'd say kissing is a definite no-no.
For you maybe.
But perhaps ask yourself this. A guy comes to your place for an hour of sex. If he was asymptomatic with CV, would not kissing him prevent you from catching CV?
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It's transmitted via saliva etc so I'm thinking you'll have more chance of getting it through kissing.
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If you are having sex you'll be in close enough proximity to catch injustice by breathing on eachother.
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Members of the cabinet have warned that some form of social distancing could be in place until we get a vaccine but as people know that could be 1/2 years away. Of course what exactly that means is **shrugs** and the questions I have that follow from that (like, can we get the self employment grant for that length of time? Unlikely!) are multiple. I would struggle to survive on universal credit and I'm a full time student who does escorting because I can get a full time wage on part time hours and not obstruct my studies and so trying to switch to a supermarket job or even cam would not work, unless I put my studies, basically, in the bin, the idea of which breaks my heart. Feeling depressed this morning. :'(
I am in the exact same position as you. A full time student who is working to survive. You can cam alongside studies - I've been doing it for a few years now. I spend 3-4 hours a day on cam, and then do uni work afterwards. It works quite well if you get into a routine.
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It is simple we are in lockdown for a reason thousands of people are dying so if anyone wants to go back to work especially in the peak are taking a risk whether you avoid kissing or not you are still in close contact and men are paying for sex acts that put you in close contact.
If you are choosing to go back to work before it is safe to do so or at least the numbers of deaths have come down a lot just accept it is a risk as you will be in close contact and those clients will still probably be going supermarkets etc and getting food etc.
This job is one of the worst for it as close contact is not something you can avoid so it is a numbers game whether the clients you see have it or not and have just caught it.
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If you are having sex you'll be in close enough proximity to catch injustice by breathing on eachother.
Exactly the 2 meter rule put in place for a reason and even that is not a guarantee you will not get it. Any sex act if anyone has it the chances of you catching it is very very high. There is no ifs and buts close contact spreads it.
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The two meter rule is there so you don't catch droplets if someone sneezes or coughs. So kissing is more of a danger as you're swapping saliva. You can't as far as I'm aware get it from other bodily fluids as it's respitory droplets that's the danger. But yes, I said on this thread a few weeks ago I'm worried you can get it from someone's breath but that's not proven as far as I know. We all do what we want to do.
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My point is that if I see any clients, I might aswell kiss and it's not going to make a difference if I catch it or not because you are having sex with them anyway.
I've made the decision to see a limited number of people under specific conditions to reduce the risk and we are in a free and open democracy last time I checked.
I know some of you will say I'm mad...but it's my life and my body.
The worst thing is that some of you will criticise in public yet in private will absolutely be thinking about trying to work on a limited basis.
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I’ve not worked for 4 weeks now and I’ve managed, haven’t been escorting that long really so before this happened I didn’t have any saving and I was in the middle of getting my house decorated top to bottom. I was going to wait until the lockdown was over before I started working again but May is going to be a very expensive month for me. On top of my two kids birthdays a few days apart I also have a holiday that still needs paying, its highly doubtful that we’ll be going on the holiday but if I cancel and not pay the £700 owed I’ll loose the 1100 I’ve already payed. I know birthdays shouldn’t be top of my priority list but I feel so sorry for them, we’ve had to cancel the birthday trip away, they won’t be able to see any family or friends so I feel like I have to make up for it by getting them extra gifts. I know a couple of girls who have continued to work and it’s been quiet but hoping if I only do a couple of days I’ll at least get this months holiday payment and something for extra birthday bits for them. Really starting to feel the pressure of having no money compared to what I was earning before this all happened.
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The worst thing is that some of you will criticise in public yet in private will absolutely be thinking about trying to work on a limited basis.
Well claiming to be able to read other people's minds is definitely a topic for another board :).
As I said previously, I'm waiting for the other 'contact' services to get the nod and my phone will be back on by the end of the day. I'm as certain as I can be that I've already had it anyway (and I'd be staggered if I was the only one here, especially amongst the Londoners) and it's the lack of test availability to confirm this for anybody who isn't a politician or a celebrity which is far more important to me.
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My personal circumstances was I could cope through march and april but savings are starting to run low.
When the lockdown come in, I (and I suspect a few others) had some savings to tie me over...but my resources are limited and so at some point i knew i would eventually have to look at taking small risks.
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I also have a holiday that still needs paying, its highly doubtful that we’ll be going on the holiday but if I cancel and not pay the £700 owed I’ll lose the 1100 I’ve already paid.
This is nothing to do with this forum I know, but don't cancel the holiday - wait for the company to do it and you'll get a refund :).
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This is nothing to do with this forum I know, but don't cancel the holiday - wait for the company to do it and you'll get a refund :).
It depends on the timing. I have a hol booked for August that’s due to be paid by end of May. I doubt they will cancel it by end of May. :-(
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I am in the exact same position as you. A full time student who is working to survive. You can cam alongside studies - I've been doing it for a few years now. I spend 3-4 hours a day on cam, and then do uni work afterwards. It works quite well if you get into a routine.
I did try cam but it was totally dead. I think it is hard if you're new to it, from what I understand, because if you don't have a rep or regs coming into it now when so many others are (everyone is saying its dead) is the worst time. I may try again but I don't think its going to be an easy alternative at all tbh.
I do agree once you're in a room having sex for an hour or more, I think kissing is unlikely to make much difference, its very contagious in proximity anyway. I'm not worrying about my own health however, just about passing stuff on to vulnerable people. But probably, like Amy, I'll just wait until other contact non essential workers are allowed to go back to work, unless that goes beyond another 6 weeks or whatever and/or depending on what happens with the SE payments. Its the uncertainty that's vexing me, I don't do well with uncertainty.
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This is nothing to do with this forum I know, but don't cancel the holiday - wait for the company to do it and you'll get a refund :).
Yeah that’s what I’m going to do, the rest still has to be paid monthly and they’ll either refund or give me a credit note.
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It will get really confusing if when the contact services go back to work, they are told they have to wear face masks. 🤔
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My point is that if I see any clients, I might aswell kiss and it's not going to make a difference if I catch it or not because you are having sex with them anyway.
I've made the decision to see a limited number of people under specific conditions to reduce the risk and we are in a free and open democracy last time I checked.
I know some of you will say I'm mad...but it's my life and my body.
The worst thing is that some of you will criticise in public yet in private will absolutely be thinking about trying to work on a limited basis.
Not me. As well as not being public spirited, it's breaking the new laws - it's pretty clear.
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My personal circumstances was I could cope through march and april but savings are starting to run low.
When the lockdown come in, I (and I suspect a few others) had some savings to tie me over...but my resources are limited and so at some point i knew i would eventually have to look at taking small risks.
But a lot of bill companies know they cannot get paid that is why there is holiday periods or no late fee charges. So we only need basic costs of survival for the moment. Universal credit can cover some of that and we have the self employment 80% percent scheme coming in at some point. So we can put off a lot of our bills.
Unless someone cannot claim either of those then i understand that is a big problem and definately a need to have to carry on with close contact sex work.
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I think we all have to do what's right for our circumstances and needs, We are all grown ups. It's a personal judgement call like when we decided to sell sex for money. I know if I had been beaten down by my ex calling me vile names, threatening me and telling me I'm a bad mum because of my choice, I'd have been counting pennies and feeling hopeless.
Yes I've thought about working but part of me just doesn't feel like it's right for me. I will have to in 2 months and I hope by then things have relaxed. My work flats being rented out short term for 2 months and landlord said I can move back in once I'm back to work as a nanny ;). So I can chill and see how it goes.
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Not me. As well as not being public spirited, it's breaking the new laws - it's pretty clear.
Some of my customers are self-employed trades people. Are they still working?
I had to go to town (for valid reasons), streets were empty, nobody is going onto the motorway, which would have a check point.
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And I apologise if it's against rules to mention but how about only fans to sell pics and videos and you can let regulars know. I thought about it myself, I'm not patient enough to cam.
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Some of my customers are self-employed trades people. Are they still working?
Regieee if these customers are not themselves sex workers, they're not going to be on here to answer this, are they? Some likely will be and others will not.
And I apologise if it's against rules to mention but how about only fans to sell pics and videos and you can let regulars know. I thought about it myself, I'm not patient enough to cam.
There's a thread about it somewhere already, and has been for years IIRC. And if you're not sure what's within the rules it's a good idea to ask privately before just going ahead and posting anyway, and potentially creating work for us :).
It will get really confusing if when the contact services go back to work, they are told they have to wear face masks. 🤔
I think it's unlikely when there aren't enough masks for hospitals and care homes (and they're of little or limited use anyway) and the likes of tattooists already do, IME. I doubt those doing the 'telling' are going to be making sure they keep back a couple of boxes for Julie at the nail bar :).
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I hope not but watching the news today, it seems to be in the air.
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The thing is, the jury is out on whether having it already (as I have done) confers immunity, therefore there is a risk we who have had it can get it again.
I am not sure that my body or my lungs can handle that so I am not sure what to do at all until there is a vaccine?
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The thing is, the jury is out on whether having it already (as I have done) confers immunity, therefore there is a risk we who have had it can get it again.
I am not sure that my body or my lungs can handle that so I am not sure what to do at all until there is a vaccine?
Wait and see what the studies say? I fear this too that you can catch it multiple times, a vaccine could be years away and not 100% effective and I imagine any vaccine will be prioritised for ''essential workers'' or will be sold to the country that is the highest bidder.
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It's scary, If it's here to stay and it's a new reality for us then Everyday normal living will be a risk,Shopping, Hooking up and dating. Why didn't I work my arse off and buy a desert island or nuclear bunker lol We need to arm ourselves with what we need to do to boost our immune system. I take the best supplements but sometimes just working too hard or stress can lower our defences.
I was thinking of teaming up with another girl and doing a duo gloryhole service so just a hole and no need to see a face or kiss.
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I have yet to read anything even remotely convincing that suggests reinfection is possible (and since my New Scientist subscription expired two days ago and I can't afford to renew it it's unlikely I will ;D), but nobody knows and we're getting into speculation now which does nobody any favours. I'm happy to take my chances, but if I wasn't I'd just ditch whoring altogether and do something else.
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Most of the evidence suggests that most recoverees do have some immunity - that's why they're running trials of using some of their plasma to help very ill patients (i.e. transferring the antibodies). What is in question as it's a new infection is how long the immunity lasts. Some patients also appear to see a re-activation of their infection (rather than a re-infection).
Multiple companies, big and small, and academia are working on a vaccine. We'd be very unlucky if one wasn't available by the end of 2021.
COVID-19 could be like flu and come round once or twice a year from now on, or it could be like SARS and MERS and not really bother us again. We just don't know. But hopefully we'll at least have the antibody tests fairly soon so people will know if they've had it.
I'm not going to be paranoid once lockdown is over, and I will do bookings if my civvy job/time allows
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This is really what I meant - we've had threads here (with pictures, in one instance) over the years from people who've been unfortunate enough to catch herpes and suffer horrendous initial attacks; among those replying with similar experiences their repeat attacks have been sporadic, much milder and in many cases non-existant (even for years) but either way a repeat attack doesn't mean that somebody has caught herpes a second time, just that it never went anywhere in the first place.
Couple a completely unknown situation with less than favourable testing condtions and limited resources, and add an extraordinary amount of pressure to get it right and it's clear that nobody is going to have anything concrete for a while. Not that that'll stop the redtops printing endless bollocks about it ::)
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I suffer with cold sores on my lips or inside nose but not genital and once you get herpes it's for life and lives in the nerve endings. But attacks can be because of stress, Being rundown or other factors.
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Sorry, I obviously didn't word my post very well - I wasn't trying to derail the thread and start a discussion on herpes.
What I was getting at was that with viruses we're familiar with we know what to expect, so we know that if somebody is infected with herpes which then clears up and they later have another attack even years later, it's because the original infection has been lying low in their system and not because they've been 'cured' and then caught it again.
With a new pathogen everything has to be learned so it takes time, which means nobody can say whether apparent reinfections are in fact just a resurgence of the original, nor how accurate testing is and so on, because while there are likely to be similarities with existing knowledge it hasn't been seen before.
To try and drag it kicking and screaming back on topic, this also means that nobody will know if and when anybody else is contagious (including themselves) until it's been properly researched, so anybody who believes they would be at serious risk would probably be sensible to avoid working until there's more information.
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Well , I think they're starting gagging for it .
I'm not currently working ( I am practicing social distancing ) so my number isn't displayed but my mail box has been non stop for the last couple of days , all unknown to me , 90 % under the age of 30. Those kids thinks they're invincible....
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I have refused to see clients also who have called or messages me.
I've told them to be safer but it's probably pointless .
No money is worth risking my health for.
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I had to call NHS 111 last week because of a crippling migraine attack, and I asked about whether it was possible to get Covid-19 twice, as I suspected that I had it about a month ago - high temperature, cough and felt like someone had tied an elastic band around my lungs - and the doctor said they're still testing, but it's quite unlikely in their opinion. I don't think there are enough studies to either confirm or deny though, but I reckon it's probably unlikely too. It'd be great to get the antibodies tests out, so we can see who has had it already. I think that might put some minds at ease... :-\
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Advice please ladies. So as I'm not working and decided to not continue to rent work flat, The tenancy ends 10th of may. The landlord advertised flat already and new tenants want to move in next Friday. Now I'm happy to move out if i get my two weeks rent back and deposit. Landlord and new tenants looked around flat and I've looked after it. Thing is i think landlord is going to try and do his best to not pay me back all I'm owed or BS me to stall it. I decided to send a formal email to leave a paper trail on what we agreed verbally. Now landlords not replied to confirm what we agree which is odd as up til now all been I emails to suit him. He wants to talk on the phone which a friend said I should record.
Thing is i want to make sure that the day before i hand over keys i get money transferred into my account. After all I'm leaving two weeks early and doing him a favour as the property won't be empty during lockdown.
I'm in my right to say I want to stay until the end of my tenancy agreement and he has no right to pressure me to leave or hold back my owed 2 weeks rent and deposit. I actually think his already taken a deposit from new tenants.
How do I play this and not end up out of pocket ?
Thanks betty
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Advice please ladies. So as I'm not working and decided to not continue to rent work flat, The tenancy ends 10th of may. The landlord advertised flat already and new tenants want to move in next Friday. Now I'm happy to move out if i get my two weeks rent back and deposit. Landlord and new tenants looked around flat and I've looked after it. Thing is i think landlord is going to try and do his best to not pay me back all I'm owed or BS me to stall it. I decided to send a formal email to leave a paper trail on what we agreed verbally. Now landlords not replied to confirm what we agree which is odd as up til now all been I emails to suit him. He wants to talk on the phone which a friend said I should record.
Thing is i want to make sure that the day before i hand over keys i get money transferred into my account. After all I'm leaving two weeks early and doing him a favour as the property won't be empty during lockdown.
I'm in my right to say I want to stay until the end of my tenancy agreement and he has no right to pressure me to leave or hold back my owed 2 weeks rent and deposit. I actually think his already taken a deposit from new tenants.
How do I play this and not end up out of pocket ?
Thanks betty
Did your deposit not go in to the deposit scheme?
I would just say you are not leaving without the money.
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Did your deposit not go in to the deposit scheme?
I would just say you are not leaving without the money.
Isn't there still a delay with the deposit scheme, was always at least a few weeks after I left that it was processed. That's assuming it's not disputed.
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Ref the SWARM query earlier up the thread mine is due in the next few days as they emailed me over the weekend. They have processed mine i.e. application approved and bank details given to them. Just waiting on actual payment which should be midweek or so.
Ref the virus affecting our bookings yes there will be less enquiries but there will definitely be less escorts (I think it is far less likely new people will be starting sexwork now in addition). So it may work out fine for some of us.
I am working on the basis that if 39 per cent of the actual UK population has reduced income now (according to Martin Lewis) then there will be at least that less in terms of enquiries and actual meets. The 70 plus will be also far less likely to come out. So maybe 50% less work all in but given that many will be actually leaving the industry or already have left hopefully some of us will still be able to continue without being too adversely affected.
I may do a one hour special price for a while however. When I start again from September or so. For now I am just seeing a new regular who is miraculously seeing me twice a month for two hours plus he pays the hotel room. He is a godsend!
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Isn't there still a delay with the deposit scheme, was always at least a few weeks after I left that it was processed. That's assuming it's not disputed.
Well he asked me to move out 2 weeks earlier so I'm doing him a favour as he will have secured tenants for next 3 months but they need flat this Friday and I am paid up until the 10th may. I told him last week I would want my 2 weeks rent back and deposit, He wanted to keep my 2 weeks rent with the agreement I rent ack flat after 3 months. But I told him I'd rather the money in my savings account. I should at least get my 2 weeks rent back before I hand over keys, Deposit I think he will try to keep because he is Essex boy delboy type all nice to seal a deal.
I've been agood tenant and paid on time and kept flat spotless and nothing damaged. He even ask if I could deep clean flat lol Its clean and its lockdown somehow can I hire expert cleaners.
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Deposit I think he will try to keep because he is Essex boy delboy type all nice to seal a deal.
As others have said, he shouldn't be able to keep the deposit because he shouldn't have it - it must legally be in a deposit scheme and if he has reason to think he can retain some of it (things missing from the inventory, damage or whatever) he needs to sort it out with them. It's nothing to do with where he's from, it's the law.
I can't really see how your being a sex worker has any bearing on this tbh, and I'd recommend you contact the CAB and/or Shelter and ask them. You need credible advice from people who know what they're talking about and posting here won't help with that.
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Thanks Amy. I will see him in person tomorrow and see if he trys to give me a load of BS. I'll tell him I want at the least my 2 weeks rent back in my account before I hand keys over.
Think I'm just feeling a bit anxious over all the changes of late and trying to keep busy and not stress over all we can't control regarding lockdown. Trying to plan for July as a starting work again month.
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Thanks Amy. I will see him in person tomorrow and see if he trys to give me a load of BS. I'll tell him I want at the least my 2 weeks rent back in my account before I hand keys over.
Remember when you have to conversation with him that it's YOU that's doing the big favour for him by moving out early. So he should be returning to you the 2 weeks rent with no argument! Definitely check it's in your account a day or so before you hand over the keys, as they'll be nothing you can do about it after you've moved.
As Amy said the deposit should be being held by the tenancydepositscheme(dot)com, if you head over to that website you can enter some details about your tenancy to check it's there :)
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Ref SWARM monies I got my £200 this morning in my account. It took just under two weeks all in i.e. 12 days. Nice and fast and sorely needed.
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Remember when you have to conversation with him that it's YOU that's doing the big favour for him by moving out early. So he should be returning to you the 2 weeks rent with no argument! Definitely check it's in your account a day or so before you hand over the keys, as they'll be nothing you can do about it after you've moved.
As Amy said the deposit should be being held by the tenancydepositscheme(dot)com, if you head over to that website you can enter some details about your tenancy to check it's there :)
Thanks for advice bella, Just checked and called up deposit company and its registered. Advice was to take pics of everything in flat incase landlord tries to say I damaged anything.
But I will definitely expect my two weeks rent back before I hand keys over Friday. So Thursday. If he is decent and all is fair I would go back and rent. Have to see I think these hard times can being out peoples bad sides when it comes to money.
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Ref SWARM monies I got my £200 this morning in my account. It took just under two weeks all in i.e. 12 days. Nice and fast and sorely needed.
Glad you got help :) Also don't forget food banks too. I convinced my friend to go to our local food bank as she is living on practically bread and butter and tea and too proud to except money from friends and family. I've always given to the food banks because nobody should go hungry in this day and age but with pressure from landlords and utility companies many are too scared to pay them last instead of providing meals to keep healthy.
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My point is that if I see any clients, I might aswell kiss and it's not going to make a difference if I catch it or not because you are having sex with them anyway.
I've made the decision to see a limited number of people under specific conditions to reduce the risk and we are in a free and open democracy last time I checked.
I know some of you will say I'm mad...but it's my life and my body.
The worst thing is that some of you will criticise in public yet in private will absolutely be thinking about trying to work on a limited basis.
Louise I'm doing the same as you. Seeing a select few under set conditions.
I also realize many of you will disagree with us, but I can't live on thin air. The swarm grant is fantastic, I'm really grateful, but at the same time it's a one off payment of £200. Lockdown is still for another 2 and a half weeks at least.
I had to take a few long breaks recently which has meant my savings have been run right down, so unfortunately I don't have a lot of choice but to take my chances. I'm comfortable with it, ish.
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Members of the cabinet have warned that some form of social distancing could be in place until we get a vaccine but as people know that could be 1/2 years away. Of course what exactly that means is **shrugs** and the questions I have that follow from that (like, can we get the self employment grant for that length of time? Unlikely!) are multiple. I would struggle to survive on universal credit and I'm a full time student who does escorting because I can get a full time wage on part time hours and not obstruct my studies and so trying to switch to a supermarket job or even cam would not work, unless I put my studies, basically, in the bin, the idea of which breaks my heart. Feeling depressed this morning. :'(
Lol nobody is going to social distance for 2 years.
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Seems everyday I am reading on Twitter about girls in their 20s and 30s dying in this country to covid-19 and not just nurses.
Remember that the number of news articles has no bearing on how common something actually is.
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Lol nobody is going to social distance for 2 years.
I didn't say that they would.
But how long some form of social restriction will happen for and what impact that might have on the economy, individual businesses and livelihoods is still up in the air. Its possible that even if things in terms of the law go 'totally back to normal' in the next months (which is unlikely) I would wager its not unfeasible numbers of men, particularly over a certain age, (and most of my clients are 'over a certain age') will de-prioritise punting for some time. In any case, I'm planning for the worse and hoping for the best.
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My thinking is similar to yours burlesque. In my mind I'm on holiday until end of July but I think the impact of lockdown will last much longer and will change our line of work. I may have the option of renting my work flat again come July but I'm very unsure if I will make the rent and a profit with escorting this year.I hope I'm wrong in thinking getting work will be harder, Competitive if new girls join due to job losses especially retail and hospitality. Definitely older clients will be very weary for punting this year some may of lost the taste for the habit. But I think many guys are gagging to get out a punt and already have a shopping list of girls they want to see after lockdown. I fear the quality of clients may be lower. I will definitely need to come down a bit on my rates. And a big lesson from this is that we should always save a bit of money , I certainly will not be treating myself to anything this year.
I think a vaccine will not be available this year and we will have to adapt and except that this virus will run its course and lives will be lost and the papers will continue to print stories which could further keep punters over 50 and that's the age I mostly attract and can pay my rates and enjoy longer bookings. I have one good regular I hope I can see after lockdown.
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I think a vaccine will not be available this year and we will have to adapt and except that this virus will run its course and lives will be lost and the papers will continue to print stories which could further keep punters over 50 and that's the age I mostly attract and can pay my rates and enjoy longer bookings. I have one good regular I hope I can see after lockdown.
I also mainly see guys maybe 40 to 75 years old and hope they are okay.
I live in small city and read no cases here but not testing so who knows :-\
Just hope my little parlour job is still on.
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I've started seeing clients again this week.
I've kept to strict measures such has showers with lost of soap for my clients before any contact.
It's not been super busy but it's been busier then I thought. I am having to turn a few away.
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Georgia in America are apparently starting to lift lockdown restrictions by allowing tattoo parlours, bowling alleys and massage parlours to open. That seems a bit back to front to me. 🤔
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I've started seeing clients again this week.
I've kept to strict measures such has showers with lost of soap for my clients before any contact.
It's not been super busy but it's been busier then I thought. I am having to turn a few away.
Hi louise
I'm surprised your busy but that's good for you. Regarding age group, Are older guys still punting or is it mostly guys under 40?
I've not tempted to work tbh I needed a few months off to just touch base with my personal life and family. But I've been thinking about hooking up with ex lovers and FWB but it feels dangerous as in big brother will catch me lol
Also I don't agree with this tracker app, I don't mind doing lockdown to keep others safe and my family but having Gov know my footprint is an invasion and BBC reports lockdown to last the year. I can't see how anyone will cope with isolation and a loss of quality of life.
I did plan on working and of July. I do think once lickdown is lifted it will be busy.
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Hi louise
I'm surprised your busy but that's good for you. Regarding age group, Are older guys still punting or is it mostly guys under 40?
I've not tempted to work tbh I needed a few months off to just touch base with my personal life and family. But I've been thinking about hooking up with ex lovers and FWB but it feels dangerous as in big brother will catch me lol
Also I don't agree with this tracker app, I don't mind doing lockdown to keep others safe and my family but having Gov know my footprint is an invasion and BBC reports lockdown to last the year. I can't see how anyone will cope with isolation and a loss of quality of life.
I did plan on working and of July. I do think once lickdown is lifted it will be busy.
According to BBC articles the tracker isn't personal as such, I have read about police closing a brothel for breaking current restrictions same as they have issued to barbers and other businesses.
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Hi louise
I'm surprised your busy but that's good for you. Regarding age group, Are older guys still punting or is it mostly guys under 40?
I've not tempted to work tbh I needed a few months off to just touch base with my personal life and family. But I've been thinking about hooking up with ex lovers and FWB but it feels dangerous as in big brother will catch me lol
Also I don't agree with this tracker app, I don't mind doing lockdown to keep others safe and my family but having Gov know my footprint is an invasion and BBC reports lockdown to last the year. I can't see how anyone will cope with isolation and a loss of quality of life.
I did plan on working and of July. I do think once lickdown is lifted it will be busy.
I've not noticed any trends with age groups or anything. Most people are local though (within 20 min drive) and it's in my personal flat so no risk for me with police as I'm not travelling. It's up to the guys to get to me to be honest.
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Those men turning up for bookings have no respect for their own health let alone ours. Once the lockdown eases slowly I'm gonna have to lower my rates to get the guys in. I normally charge £120 per hour but will reduce to £100 to lure more of them in. I'm worried because todays news is suggesting social distancing could last for years and no vaccine until 18 months away. I might even give up this job and look for a civvy job as at the moment I'm struggling but I would never risk my life for money.
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I am debating returning, but mainly out of boredom. I'm going out of my mind at the moment... :FF
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I think at some point most of you will look at it from a different position.
Even when the lockdown gets lifted it will be gradual and social distancing practices will be in place for many more months. Probably the rest of the year...can you afford not to work the rest of the year?
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I think at some point most of you will look at it from a different position.
Even when the lockdown gets lifted it will be gradual and social distancing practices will be in place for many more months. Probably the rest of the year...can you afford not to work the rest of the year?
Everyone's circumstances are different, be they financial, logistics, or links to vulnerable people. Whoring isn't the only option to earn money.
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Everyone's circumstances are different, be they financial, logistics, or links to vulnerable people. Whoring isn't the only option to earn money.
Yes but there is nothing else we can do which will pay as good. I mean I earn 3k a month and live in a small town, I would never earn this on a civvy job and have the luxury of all the free time we get. Ok seeing old men twice my age is horrible but some of them can be nice. I'm getting anxious we wont be able to work again without breaking the law like some ladies are doing. Also for those who are working during the lockdown be careful as I read some people are being reported to the police for their activities. X
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I think at some point most of you will look at it from a different position.
Even when the lockdown gets lifted it will be gradual and social distancing practices will be in place for many more months. Probably the rest of the year...can you afford not to work the rest of the year?
It's true. A year without work will be very daunting to many. I don't know if I'll cope for that long...
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I think at some point most of you will look at it from a different position.
Even when the lockdown gets lifted it will be gradual and social distancing practices will be in place for many more months. Probably the rest of the year...can you afford not to work the rest of the year?
It is not like we need money for going out to pubs, restaurants, holidays, cinema, buying clothes. We just need our standing living costs covered which hopefully will happen when we can apply for the 80% self employed government scheme. Obviously it would be nice to have more money then that but these times are not like any times we have ever been in before. So just a very average existence is all i am expecting for the next 8 months really.
I will not be going back to this kind of work until it is safe to do so or safer and not against the law.
I know a lot are struggling with the boredom more than anything. I have been ok to be honest as can still go out for walks in the sunshine, i just think of all those poor people suffering and dying and am grateful to be alive and still able to cook meals in my house and watch tv, films, box sets etc.
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I'm certainly umm-ing and ahh-ing about it. My living costs are 'just about' covered, but not enough at this stage. I am still camming, but seeing more and more people losing their jobs and unable to buy tokens... ::)
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It is not like we need money for going out to pubs, restaurants, holidays, cinema, buying clothes. We just need our standing living costs covered which hopefully will happen when we can apply for the 80% self employed government scheme. Obviously it would be nice to have more money then that but these times are not like any times we have ever been in before. So just a very average existence is all i am expecting for the next 8 months really.
I will not be going back to this kind of work until it is safe to do so or safer and not against the law.
I know a lot are struggling with the boredom more than anything. I have been ok to be honest as can still go out for walks in the sunshine, i just think of all those poor people suffering and dying and am grateful to be alive and still able to cook meals in my house and watch tv, films, box sets etc.
Its very unlikely you'll be able to claim the 80% for the rest of the year.
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I've not noticed any trends with age groups or anything. Most people are local though (within 20 min drive) and it's in my personal flat so no risk for me with police as I'm not travelling. It's up to the guys to get to me to be honest.
Thanks louise :)
I don't care to judge men who still want to punt or WGs that need or choose to. Let's face it we can catch this virus going to the supermarket and many people NEED to work ...Im lucky I don't have to but work but I'd do what it takes if it meant making sure my kids had what they needed. Nothing is ever black and white.
Take the best of care hun and let's hope we can all get back to work.
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And lets face it most men think with their dick and from what I've gleaned from punters comments. But definitely will be different after lockdown and not just for us WG. But all we can do is wait and see. I will be off to nail nail bar and getting my Profhiloas soon as lockdown is over, I've had a disaster trying to use acetone to remove SNS lol
But at the moment
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I must admit I'm giving serious, serious thought to seeing a regulars again, the pips are squeaking here.
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Its very unlikely you'll be able to claim the 80% for the rest of the year.
Time will tell what will happen with that. I would have thought the Government would know we would probably need that for 8 months and have offered that scheme as they know a lot will try to work without it if bill holidays especially come to an end in 3 months.
There has to be a plan if they want a lot of us to stay in lockdown and obey the rules.
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Time will tell what will happen with that. I would have thought the Government would know we would probably need that for 8 months and have offered that scheme as they know a lot will try to work without it if bill holidays especially come to an end in 3 months.
There has to be a plan if they want a lot of us to stay in lockdown and obey the rules.
The lock down will probably be gradually lifted soon.
But, social distancing will remain in place probably for the rest of the year according to the chief medical officer.
Which means by June or July they will stop or lowdown the furlough rules.
They won't say oh your an escort so its different.
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If anyone is working or going back to work when the restrictions are lifted will you be doing services like DFK? I would be looking to remove this and OWO until the vaccine is rolled out. Wondering everyone’s thoughts. We have to start earning money soon can’t just take a whole year off work. I’ve asked a few regulars to have longer 3-4 hours bookings so I don’t have to see volume of people and lots have agreed as they have some money saved.
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BBE's. I don't do deep French kissing but if I did I really wouldn't now. As for owo, I don't see that making a difference because it's a respitory thing. Just like if someone had the flu, I'd still blow them without but wouldn't want to kiss them. How is doing owo a risk to getting CV?
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Hi ladies
For everyone that is continuing to work or is thinking of going back to work
My duo partner has continued advertise on AW and carried on working since the lockdown came into effect
Today she had a visit from the police with a print out of her AW profile
She has been told in no uncertain terms that if she continues to flout the rules then action will be taken
She’s had a number of men question her decision to continue to work and thinks that one of them has reported her to the police
I made the decision to stop when lockdown came in and look for other work and have now got a video interview in the morning :) nervous as hell tho as it’s the first interview I’ve had in 12yrs
I’ll let how I get on
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I’m currently looking for a civvy job as no other financial option/support (and for my mental wellbeing).
Should I return after lockdown is lifted I won’t be offering DFK or rimming.
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How is doing owo a risk to getting CV?
I’m not working yet but hoping/planning to go back from September. I’m looking to remove kissing and owo. As far as I can see the risk would be getting it from the guy who’s got the virus on his hands (either from his own droplets by coughing/sneezing/wiping his nose or mouth, or whatever) and then proceeds to touch his bits before we then put it in our mouths! Unless we tie their hands behind their back as soon as they enter ???
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Unless we tie their hands behind their back as soon as they enter ???
And that will be an extra tenner haha.
Oh I see. Well if not covered, we can make them scrub themselves maybe.
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I think most guys will not be happy if DFK and OWO are off the list unless we drop prices. But We can still catch the virus, Nurses and Doctors wear protection and still catch it without getting personal with kissing and oral. Unfortunately going back to work as a escort or any profession such as a dentist or beautician and hairdresser will have risks. So maybe no DFK will help a bit it will not be a cert in staying virus free. We need to be real because our multiple contact intimately is risky anyway and now its still risky and more so. But we still don't know how much more because our scientists still have not told us for cert anything, No ttesting for antibodies. All I would say that if you are not desperate then don't work until after lockdown, I am 38 si no spring chicken and not sure I'd be as safe as a 20 yr old.
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To add the more sensible WG will take off DFK and owo but others will use this and charge £200+ because they will do owo and DFK. This situation is going to make waves and change so much in the sex industry.
With OWO if you smother it with milton insure it will be sterile lol But saliva would be a no.
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When I do bookings again I won't be changing my services. If you're going to catch it from someone I don't think kissing etc. will make much difference. I might enforce a shower though, which I haven't done before.
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To add the more sensible WG will take off DFK and owo
I'm sensible enough to know that if somebody is close enough to me to fuck then kissing or not kissing won't make a blind bit of difference, and like Kay I won't be changing my services nor my prices because I'm perfectly happy with both. I can't see what difference OWO would make one way or the other, but since I haven't offered it for over eleven years, neither it nor RO (which I haven't offered for seven) are things I need to concern myself with. Then again, as far as I know without a test I've had it and got it out of the way weeks ago.
I won’t be offering DFK or rimming.
I don't blame you TT. If they can talk out of it it's not that much of a stretch to think that they can breathe out of it too ;D
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When I do bookings again I won't be changing my services. If you're going to catch it from someone I don't think kissing etc. will make much difference. I might enforce a shower though, which I haven't done before.
Same me. I will still do DFK and OWO as it most asked for. If I not offer think they just go to some one who will.
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When I go back both OWO and DFK will still be on the menu and I will drop my rates to £100 per hour. Lots of men will be struggling with money due to losing jobs etc. And as Betty says regardless if you remove DFK or owo it doesnt matter as you may still catch the virus.
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When I go back both OWO and DFK will still be on the menu and I will drop my rates to £100 per hour. Lots of men will be struggling with money due to losing jobs etc. And as Betty says regardless if you remove DFK or owo it doesnt matter as you may still catch the virus.
While that is up to you I would recommend you try your normal rates first or if you do reduce state that the reduction is temporary so you can go back to your original rates any time you want. You could also say on profile that the first two clients of the day get the reduced rate. You could see how many you want at that rate then when you’ve hit your target increase for the rest of the day.
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Some people are saving money because they can't spend it, some are being paid bonuses others paid to stay at home or on fixed incomes such as pensions.
Others will be cautious.
At the moment I don't foresee reducing services when I start in-person bookings again, if I'm at close quarters enough to have sex I don't think it makes much difference however I may start with clients who I know have low exposure risk also I'll be continuing to wash hands on arrival at outcalls and asking any incalls to do the same.
I may also continue online services as an introduction and also because in some ways it's far safer.
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Its very unlikely you'll be able to claim the 80% for the rest of the year.
Most likely but it does of course mean when that financial support is stopped, people will go back to work. I normally don't like the phrase 'its a simple as that' but in this case, yea. UC is not enough for most people to subsist upon (it doesn't cover all my rent for example) and people might say 'well go get another job then', as though in a contemporary economy there are an endless supply of essential, non contact jobs for everyone in the that industry to take up - about 6 million workers- not just escorting.
And the contact thing, yea I don't see what difference it makes if you don't kiss etc. Its a very infectious virus and being in close proximity for that length of time with a client is risk enough. I find it hard to belief in sexual context even handwashing will make much difference.
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Soap does kill the virus hence the constant washing of hands. This is why I've made it mandatory for every client to have a deep clean shower with lots of soap at my place before we do anything. Yes I could catch it from droplets from their mouth but that's regardless of kissing hence why I do kiss.
But that is assuming they have the virus.
The use of a shower would prevent any traces on outside of body such as hands which could have been picked up prior to them ariving at mine.
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I'm definitely itching to return... :angel:
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Soap does kill the virus hence the constant washing of hands. This is why I've made it mandatory for every client to have a deep clean shower with lots of soap at my place before we do anything. Yes I could catch it from droplets from their mouth but that's regardless of kissing hence why I do kiss.
But that is assuming they have the virus.
The use of a shower would prevent any traces on outside of body such as hands which could have been picked up prior to them ariving at mine.
I just had a thought on the showering of clients during this awful time. They can scrub themselves silly in the shower but what about the clothes they have just taken off. As far as I know the virus can linger on materials. It would be possible I suppose to ensure no touching of them while they are dressed but that pile of clothes they take off will touch something in your bath or bedroom. Maybe I am overthinking but this virus is a horror and will creep in anywhere it finds a way.
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I’m not going to last for months without working. I mentioned before I used up my (considerable) savings during the past 2 years when I had to take a lot of time off due to ill health.
A knock on effect to not being able to work much the past 2 years, means I didn’t make a profit for tax purposes, so I assume this means I won’t get this 80% everyone is talking about.
I have applied for UC, but heard nothing yet, and doubt very much all or even much of my rent will be covered even if I get it.
I am trying to offer all the virtual services I can, but so far I’ve made barely anything 😟 This includes AW phone chat and advertising phone chat/skype/virtual packages on Twitter, as well as just setting up an fan account.
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I just had a thought on the showering of clients during this awful time. They can scrub themselves silly in the shower but what about the clothes they have just taken off. As far as I know the virus can linger on materials. It would be possible I suppose to ensure no touching of them while they are dressed but that pile of clothes they take off will touch something in your bath or bedroom. Maybe I am overthinking but this virus is a horror and will creep in anywhere it finds a way.
I don't think you're overthinking it, its just a fact that these processes might reduce the risk a bit but as you say, the virus can be on their clothes and you can hardly vacuum pack them for them at the door. And what if they don't scrub themselves thoroughly in the shower? How can that possibly be policed? I'm not about to stand watching them.
I am just accepting that when I go back to work, there is a chance my punters will give me the virus.
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I've weighed it up and I'm risking seeing one regular on Monday, he's local to me and I'm crossing my fingers and taking the risk.
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I just had a thought on the showering of clients during this awful time. They can scrub themselves silly in the shower but what about the clothes they have just taken off. As far as I know the virus can linger on materials. It would be possible I suppose to ensure no touching of them while they are dressed but that pile of clothes they take off will touch something in your bath or bedroom. Maybe I am overthinking but this virus is a horror and will creep in anywhere it finds a way.
Exactly if they have the virus they have the virus and making them shower is not going to stop you getting it if you are doing extreme close sexual activity.
I think if you are working on lockdown some are trying to justify in there head if they do this and that there being safe which the truth is there not being safe the government do not put in 2 meter distance measures for nothing. But i do understand if they need to buy food and have no other help they have no choice. But it really is a numbers game you need to be lucky that the client coming in do not already have the virus. If they do have the viris chances are very high you will get it with the sex you are providing where as if you are in a supermarket shopping and a couple in there might have it you are keeping away from them and hopefully not touching your face til you get home and wash your hands so a less chance of picking it up.
Clients that are breaking lockdown to get a fuck i would never trust there being careful of hygiene away from the booking as there desperate for a sex service knowing that woman is probably seeing others too before them and after.
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I consider myself lucky in that I am not in financial hardship at all during this time so can easily pull the shutters down on meetings for many months if it goes on that long. I have not had any enquiries for a few days now and that is good.
Had I been in dire straits trying to pay bills and buy food etc. then I really don't know what I would have done. I am just glad I am not faced with that dilemma. It is going to be strange seeing a client after many months of none! Far from gagging to work again I find I am losing all enthusiasm. Hopefully it will return.
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I just had a thought on the showering of clients during this awful time. They can scrub themselves silly in the shower but what about the clothes they have just taken off. As far as I know the virus can linger on materials. It would be possible I suppose to ensure no touching of them while they are dressed but that pile of clothes they take off will touch something in your bath or bedroom. Maybe I am overthinking but this virus is a horror and will creep in anywhere it finds a way.
Probably the safest thing to do is keep as far away as possible from them when they arrive, bar taking the cash, then send them to the bathroom. Put a large carrier bag in or outside the bathroom and tell them to put all their clothes and other stuff in there. Have a shower, wash their hands, use mouthwash and then come through to the bedroom in the towel.
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The safest way is not to work at moment. I believe in fate if you catch this virus it was meant to be. One of my regulars texted me today asking if I'm ok which is good. I think we are in the long hall for this virus. If things dont improve I'm afraid escorting will be a thing of the past. The oldest profession to dry up thanks to the virus. X
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Or you could just offer handjobs whilst wearing a full bee keeper outfit!
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When I go back both OWO and DFK will still be on the menu and I will drop my rates to £100 per hour. Lots of men will be struggling with money due to losing jobs etc. And as Betty says regardless if you remove DFK or owo it doesnt matter as you may still catch the virus.
I agree with lady and to not drop your rates to start. The Word on the street is that punters are gagging for it and can't wait for lockdown to be over. And if still giving good service and not taking the P with prices because of CV then I think we will still do ok. Plenty of guys will have saved loads not going out, Buying daily costa coffee and lunches, travel cost plus most will not be going on holiday. I went from £100 when I started then £120 , £150 and then £190. Each time I went up I worried I'd not get booking or a dusty phone but I didn't, Just less in the door for the same price and nicer clients too.
But I will go down a bit because I am at the higher end rates wise. I will offer same services and quality and just see how it goes, I wont be doing anything much until 2 or 3 months time and just see my regulars and watch my spending.
I agree with the clothes having germs on them, We are going to get this virus at somepoint and can't live in fear.
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I consider myself lucky in that I am not in financial hardship at all during this time so can easily pull the shutters down on meetings for many months if it goes on that long. I have not had any enquiries for a few days now and that is good.
Had I been in dire straits trying to pay bills and buy food etc. then I really don't know what I would have done. I am just glad I am not faced with that dilemma. It is going to be strange seeing a client after many months of none! Far from gagging to work again I find I am losing all enthusiasm. Hopefully it will return.
I am the same too and was thinking I'll be so out of the swing of it lol But right now I don't miss the work and its actually nice to have this time to just be me. At first I was thinking of all the money I could be making and saving but I'm not too old so plenty of years ahead to give head lol I think a nice break away from escorting could help me feel fresher when I start back and I have a lovely regular to start seeing again and get my mojo back.
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The safest way is not to work at moment. I believe in fate if you catch this virus it was meant to be. One of my regulars texted me today asking if I'm ok which is good. I think we are in the long hall for this virus. If things dont improve I'm afraid escorting will be a thing of the past. The oldest profession to dry up thanks to the virus. X
Veronica, with the best will in the world, this is not the first pandemic that has ever happened? Even barely 100 years ago the Spanish Flu infected a third of the globe and killed tens of millions of people, and prostitution is still very much alive and kicking. As posted above, plenty of punters are still working and many will have saved a fortune from not having the small daily expenses, not going out or to football and so on.
Fate is obviously smiling on me, since as far as I know I had it weeks ago and I'm by no means the only person on this thread :)
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Veronica, with the best will in the world, this is not the first pandemic that has ever happened? Even barely 100 years ago the Spanish Flu infected a third of the globe and killed tens of millions of people, and prostitution is still very much alive and kicking. As posted above, plenty of punters are still working and many will have saved a fortune from not having the small daily expenses, not going out or to football and so on.
Fate is obviously smiling on me, since as far as I know I had it weeks ago and I'm by no means the only person on this thread :)
Hi Amy and what symptoms did you have? I had the worse chest cough for a month in January and I don't suffer with my chest.
I hope I've had it but not sure so if a reliable test was about I'd be up for finding out if I have had it.
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So I saw my regular today: yes, I probably should have turned him down out of principle but he offered double and I'm deep in my overdraft. It's only me in the house right now too as my housemate chose to quarantine herself with her bf. Didn't restrict any services but tbf I personally don't see the point in doing that unless you plan on offering a totally contact-free gloryhole-style service as it's so infectious.
Not a chance in hell that I'll be lowering my rates post-lockdown. Tbh if I were in the position to (eg: healthy savings, not having to work) I'd raise them due to risk.
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So I saw my regular today: yes, I probably should have turned him down out of principle but he offered double and I'm deep in my overdraft. It's only me in the house right now too as my housemate chose to quarantine herself with her bf. Didn't restrict any services but tbf I personally don't see the point in doing that unless you plan on offering a totally contact-free gloryhole-style service as it's so infectious.
Not a chance in hell that I'll be lowering my rates post-lockdown. Tbh if I were in the position to (eg: healthy savings, not having to work) I'd raise them due to risk.
How lucky are you getting double the rate to be seen! If only that would happen to me!
I had a guy text me last week, I’ve only seen him twice and both times it’s been for a 15 min oral+cim booking which is £40, and this time he wanted the usual 15 mins but he wanted kissing, reverse oral and sex on me and all still for £40! I told him to GTF and that a booking like that is £80 and he knows it, he replied back that as he comes that quick then he feels £40 is even too much for oral and cim, I said him coming early isn’t my problem and that as soon as I put it near my mouth then he wants to come!
Sorry I’m so good at my job buddie 😂😂
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Veronica, with the best will in the world, this is not the first pandemic that has ever happened? Even barely 100 years ago the Spanish Flu infected a third of the globe and killed tens of millions of people, and prostitution is still very much alive and kicking. As posted above, plenty of punters are still working and many will have saved a fortune from not having the small daily expenses, not going out or to football and so on.
Fate is obviously smiling on me, since as far as I know I had it weeks ago and I'm by no means the only person on this thread :)
Me too! I think my friend brought it over last year from China when we were both struck with continuous dry cough and double :o pneumonia. 'Call an ambulance on 999 immediately if it gets worse', don't wait overnight' ordered the doctor. We're both totally fit and healthy and whatever it was...slapped us in the chops. For that reason I'm not that concerned catching it from clients. Most are under 30, apparently healthy males so presumably not at dire risk from me. Looking forward to work in the future.
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I feel that I need to clarify here.
There is no guarantee or full proof way of preventing the virus from infecting me. This applies if I go to the supermarket as well as a client visiting me.
Those who say they won't work until its safe, I was thinking exactly the same but I then had to consider that you will never be safe until you are vaccinated against the virus.
This won't be for probably another 12 months. So if you are planning on escorting again in 2020 the risk will be there.
So, I know that some have symptoms...they can't come to me.
Those that don't have symptoms, soap is the best known killer of the virus. Hence the showers with soap. Clothes are left in a bag which they leave in the bathroom.
Its not full proof.
Its not even close to full proof.
It is however just as safe/risky as it will be in 6 months. So why wait for 6 months and then decide to work when there is still no vaccine?
This isn't a rant, just merely pointing out that some seem to think oll give it a month then start working.
Reality check, the dangers will still be there in a month, in 3 months, in 6 months.
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This isn't a rant, just merely pointing out that some seem to think oll give it a month then start working.
Louise, it would be really helpful if you could quote the post/posts you're responding to if possible? I haven't seen any posts like that, and from what I can tell the majority of people who are keen to get back but holding off are doing so to wait for other contact businesses to reopen and therefore try to stay within the law, not because they think they won't catch anything if they do.
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I feel that I need to clarify here.
There is no guarantee or full proof way of preventing the virus from infecting me. This applies if I go to the supermarket as well as a client visiting me.
Those who say they won't work until its safe, I was thinking exactly the same but I then had to consider that you will never be safe until you are vaccinated against the virus.
This won't be for probably another 12 months. So if you are planning on escorting again in 2020 the risk will be there.
So, I know that some have symptoms...they can't come to me.
Those that don't have symptoms, soap is the best known killer of the virus. Hence the showers with soap. Clothes are left in a bag which they leave in the bathroom.
Its not full proof.
Its not even close to full proof.
It is however just as safe/risky as it will be in 6 months. So why wait for 6 months and then decide to work when there is still no vaccine?
This isn't a rant, just merely pointing out that some seem to think oll give it a month then start working.
Reality check, the dangers will still be there in a month, in 3 months, in 6 months.
Yes but surely we are in lockdown for a reason (protecting the nhs because of the number of people getting this and being seriously unwell)? There’s also the fact that it’s illegal at the moment as well. There is also daily talk of the virus reaching its peak and then declining so won’t there be less risk in catching it in 3 or 6 months time when it’s not so prevalent and not so many people have it?
Personally I don’t know if I will even want to take that risk in 3 or 6 months time so am considering all my options including considering applying for civvy jobs, but will see how the land lies and reassess things in a month or 2
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I would imagine the people meeting up with their mates for parties and barbeques, the pubs doing lockins on the sly with the curtains shut and the thick twats in the supermarkets refusing to keep their distance (at least in my town, where anybody with the ability to think critically is viewed with suspicion at the best of times) present far more opportunities for infection to spread than a lone punter who may have been on his own at home for weeks travelling a short distance to see a lone prossie who has done likewise :).
As for the supposed 'lockdown' (where everybody can pretty much go out when they want provided they stay away from other people and don't take the piss), I'm starting to wonder what people are going to call it if and when we ever actually have one. But then I have family members who are in Spain.
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Regardless of this virus and lockdown. As WGs we actually put ourselves at risk from owo and DFK orally unhygienic mouths, Risk of clamydia and HIV from and CIM, I have offered all myself. But it's our own choice and in the last 7 years of having many sexual partners and always OWO and the same with work, Never got anything and actually hardly get a cold.
My point is life and Everyday we take risks, A trusted boyfriend can create and give a partner something. I read on closer today of a woman that drink sperm because she thinks it is good for her immune system. For me CIM gives me a upset stomach so no thanks.
I like that we can have a choice, Right now it feels like we are being judged daily. But really the info we are fed is from the media and we will never get total clarity
We all have our reasons to not work during lockdown or to work. Be interesting to get feedback after this how many girls working since lockdown actually got ill, I think ironically not many.
I personally never believe everything I am told or else I'd be a sheep. So its important to have our own way iof dealing and feeling safe during lockdown but to also support each other and give advice. We may not always agree.
The fact we have chosen to be escorts shows we are independent and gone against the rules and judgments of others. Many if us had to because we needed to provide and pay bills. But we all come from different backgrounds and not all WGS madecthe choice
I will never feel ashamed that I have sold my body and time for money because as adults and in this industry it's not just about sex and it's not about being used or exploited, Its the female power we have over men. For most it's a choice and fron what I have read on here, We Educated women and it's still a mans world so us women need to still find ways to make things work for us and for our families.
And nothing is black and white, We may agree to not agree and sometimes be too high and mighty. But it's a blessing to be free to have an opinion.
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I agree with some of what you say, Bettyboo, and certainly once lockdown is lifted, or starts to be eased at least, everyone (escort and punter) will have different ideas about what's safe (for them and their close ones) and what's to be avoided - and what's OK for one person will be wrong for another.
For me though it's more about your behaviour during lockdown. Continuing to work is breaking the law; is flicking two fingers up at all those who are keeping away from e.g. their children or elderly parents; and potentially putting more burden on the NHS. Just because we all see morons flouting the rules and displaying egregious lack of common sense, it doesn't make it right. There's also the risk of gossiping neighbours, a visit from the police, even being splashed across the pages of a scuzzy tabloid. I don't agree with any witch hunts, and I also doubt punters will genuinely blacklist any escort who's working - though it's clear some are making notes of names - but I think people need to really weigh up whether it's worth the risk to them personally to see clients during lockdown.
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No way in hell anyone should be lowering their rates if they are going to work in already risky times. Stick to your guns ladies if they want you they will pay your asking price.
There will be a strong stream of clients after the lock down is lifted. This will be the time to re coup lost earnings. Let’s get some positive vibes going here.
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Lockdown wouldn't last for much longer.
Social distancing, they are saying,
will have to continue into 2021.
However, mass testing might become a norm,
by following South Korea.
(been wondering about their escorting/adult industry
as they flattened the curve fast thanks to
their mass testing).
At least you would know if you're positive
or not. Men will also know.
I wouldn't go by "no symptoms".
No way.
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The safest way is not to work at moment. I believe in fate if you catch this virus it was meant to be. One of my regulars texted me today asking if I'm ok which is good. I think we are in the long hall for this virus. If things dont improve I'm afraid escorting will be a thing of the past. The oldest profession to dry up thanks to the virus. X
The oldest profession will never dry up.
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Or you could just offer handjobs whilst wearing a full bee keeper outfit!
LOL
;D
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Oh please whoever has gone back to work or thinking of going back do not lower your prices as am sure the demand will be even higher as so many girls will not be returning soon and the ones from outside the UK might take long to come back. I think am getting used to not pulling cocks myself lol and not doing the job for a month has even made me think of other options. I think it's time I look for them NVQ S and my diploma certificates may be even go back to my civvy job which I have not done since 2013 😂😂
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I didn't say that they would.
But how long some form of social restriction will happen for and what impact that might have on the economy, individual businesses and livelihoods is still up in the air. Its possible that even if things in terms of the law go 'totally back to normal' in the next months (which is unlikely) I would wager its not unfeasible numbers of men, particularly over a certain age, (and most of my clients are 'over a certain age') will de-prioritise punting for some time. In any case, I'm planning for the worse and hoping for the best.
You overestimate the level of control men have over their penises.
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Those men turning up for bookings have no respect for their own health let alone ours. Once the lockdown eases slowly I'm gonna have to lower my rates to get the guys in. I normally charge £120 per hour but will reduce to £100 to lure more of them in. I'm worried because todays news is suggesting social distancing could last for years and no vaccine until 18 months away. I might even give up this job and look for a civvy job as at the moment I'm struggling but I would never risk my life for money.
Why are you getting worried because the government is advising people keep their distance for years? The government also advises that people lose weight and stop smoking...
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I'm sensible enough to know that if somebody is close enough to me to fuck then kissing or not kissing won't make a blind bit of difference
This.
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You overestimate the level of control men have over their penises.
And if anti sexual violence campaigners believed such egregious stereotypes about all men as this, they'd never bother to get out of bed in the morning. I'm hardly a hashtag#notallmen kinda girl but I seriously don't believe that no punters who either themselves might be high risk or come into daily contact with people who are high risk, won't think twice about unnecessary close contact. Some are destructive enough to do so, but many will certainly think twice. I'm preparing for that high plausibility (without cutting my prices - instead broadening my availability and adding more content for sale options.)
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Those men turning up for bookings have no respect for their own health let alone ours. Once the lockdown eases slowly I'm gonna have to lower my rates to get the guys in. I normally charge £120 per hour but will reduce to £100 to lure more of them in. I'm worried because todays news is suggesting social distancing could last for years and no vaccine until 18 months away. I might even give up this job and look for a civvy job as at the moment I'm struggling but I would never risk my life for money.
You're already risk your life 'for money' every time you see a client under 'normal' circumstances. As do all of us. Just saying. :)
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You're already risk your life 'for money' every time you see a client under 'normal' circumstances. As do all of us. Just saying. :)
Amen to that! I've put my prices up by £100 and had a tonne of enquiries...
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Until reading comments re increasing fees etc it had not entered my little head to put prices up or indeed to reduce them!
Having given it much thought now though, I shall be keeping my fees exactly as they are and see how it goes. Crossing my fingers that will be before the end of this year.
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Amen to that! I've put my prices up by £100 and had a tonne of enquiries...
Me too Darcy. I put mine up by £100. I seem to be getting better enquiries for when lockdown is over tho not sure I will go back.
I find it’s harder for me to go back when I haven’t worked for a while maybe I become desensitised when I am being mounted all the time by strange men that I don’t “feel” anything.
The ones I have seen are complaining via email.
Another thing I have encountered is how many have messaged me because they are lonely and isolated and want me to keep in touch! Suddenly they see us as friends, Honestly it’s been draining. I don’t like being cold but at the same time I am not responsible.
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It's mad, isnt it? I'm just being very picky atm, but people are keen to meet which might be a good sign!
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I feel what’s worked for me is camming, I was annihilated on the forums and now they can see me on cam, I got a super response , not that I know what was said, I don’t read it but the odd punter either called me or met me and let me know.
I am happy waiting till lockdown is lifted to decide what I will do. I find it scary and I am not taking chances with my life, tho financially I am ok so that makes a massive difference. The only thing I feel is feeling alone not having many people in my life so connection is missing, kind of get excited to see the regular postman/ delivery driver nowadays :D
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I am camming. I've been camming for years, luv.
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You're already risk your life 'for money' every time you see a client under 'normal' circumstances. As do all of us. Just saying. :)
Yea this basically. There are many serious risks to engaging sex work than viruses. As NUM alerts and the Warning Section here are a stark reminder of, and these plausible realities scare me way more than COVID-19.
I don't want to pass on the virus to someone vulnerable, or break the law and that is why I am not working as I am not financially desperate - but I am not too bothered if I myself get it seeing as I'm young with no underlying health conditions it is extremely unlikely to have a major effect on me. Its worth remember this fact. I know when I say this some people like to pull out the rare exceptions, but exceptions do nothing more than prove rules.
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I do think mentally this is a trying time. How is everyone coping doing lockdown and not seeing people?
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I do think mentally this is a trying time. How is everyone coping doing lockdown and not seeing people?
I can't say not having to be in work mode is doing my brain any harm, tbh. I don't consider clients to have any real impact on my mental state one way or the other though, regardless of whether or not I like them.
Having had my work phone switched off for over a month has been particularly joyous, but I'm dreading the day I have to start answering calls from randoms again. I'm bad enough if I've just had a week off.
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Me too Darcy. I put mine up by £100. I seem to be getting better enquiries for when lockdown is over tho not sure I will go back.
I find it’s harder for me to go back when I haven’t worked for a while maybe I become desensitised when I am being mounted all the time by strange men that I don’t “feel” anything.
The ones I have seen are complaining via email.
Another thing I have encountered is how many have messaged me because they are lonely and isolated and want me to keep in touch! Suddenly they see us as friends, Honestly it’s been draining. I don’t like being cold but at the same time I am not responsible.
Definitely raising mine too because then you have to see less men and less risk of catching corona. We are the ones at risk working all day. And for the first few months anyone based in the U.K. should clean up as the foreign ladies won’t come back until they see if it’s busy or not.
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Thank you for being so honest guys. A regular contacted and due to my ex being pain I was in two minds about this.
Feel a lot easier knowing that I’m not the only one.
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To be honest I am missing the sex/money but not the ratrace element. I am also missing the human contact as I am trapped with my 15 year old boy at home so not the best. It does do us good to take a break from the job however and although it sounds dead boring it is giving me the opportunity to tidy up all my cupboards in the home and have a good clearout. The weather also helps and I go for an occasional walk by a neighbouring lake.
It also feels really weird not getting 'fiddled with' lol.
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I'm not missing the sex from work that's just work. When I'm working my arse off and gave no time to date I miss hunting down a guy I want to have fiddle me lol And I enjoy sex and have a high sex drive. Only had a few punters I've fancied but most are older guys or not very attractive but great company and nice personalities. I miss putting the money away but bot the fiddling lol After lockdown I will find a guy I fancy the pants off and take all my sexual frustration out on him.
I feel your pain with having teenagers at home, My two are eating out of house and home and my ex husbands not seeing them or feeding them or cleaning up after them ut my ex is happy to know I can't work because of lockdown.
Does anyone really go to work and actually crave punters man sausage? I've had a few regulars I've fancied but mostly I have zero physical attraction to punters. I find roleplay turns me on a bit, Is fun and stops my brain dying and I enjoy getting ti be bossy when I get to dominate sub guys which is fun. I'd like to do more of that really.
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It also feels really weird not getting 'fiddled with' lol.
That made me laugh so much!
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I miss the personal interaction a screen isn't the same, this applies right across my life although I do enjoy fitness videos however those tend to be shot hi res and I'm not really looking for that much detail.
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I can't say not having to be in work mode is doing my brain any harm, tbh. I don't consider clients to have any real impact on my mental state one way or the other though, regardless of whether or not I like them.
Having had my work phone switched off for over a month has been particularly joyous, but I'm dreading the day I have to start answering calls from randoms again. I'm bad enough if I've just had a week off.
My mental health has actually benefited from the break actually, which is weird. It seems I needed a break :angel:
In other news, I share a house with a key worker and got tested today. The test was horrible. Really painful, although nothing compared to the actual virus, I imagine x
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Was it a finger prick blood test?
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Was it a finger prick blood test?
No, finger pricks will be for the antibody test to see if you've had the infection. To test for current infection it's a deep throat (fnar, fnar) or very high nasal swab. Someone has described the latter like feeling they're going into your brain! :o
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Kay that sounds horrific. I hope you and your keyworker housemate remain corona negative.
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It's a really deep nasal swab, and it really, really hurts. They push it really far up, to the point where the pain in unreal. I felt like I'd been punched in the face all night, and had constant nose bleeds through the night.
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A nice regular rang with a big intro about having less wages, no overtime and asked for my 'best price'. Plus requesting another service thrown in the pot.
Thing is, he was mildly angling for this before the plague and this gives him the perfect excuse to bleat again. So now he's chopped liver to me.
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No matter what the situation if I was asked what is my best price? I would reply the one on my profile.
That's about it. I won't be increasing or knocking any £££'s off because of the pandemic. To double or even ramp up my fees would be ruinous. I would get no work at all and I am sure of that.
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No matter what the situation if I was asked what is my best price? I would reply the one on my profile.
That's about it. I won't be increasing or knocking any £££'s off because of the pandemic. To double or even ramp up my fees would be ruinous. I would get no work at all and I am sure of that.
Thanks Justine, good idea. I ignored him but will steal this lol.
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A nice regular rang with a big intro about having less wages, no overtime and asked for my 'best price'. Plus requesting another service thrown in the pot.
Thing is, he was mildly angling for this before the plague and this gives him the perfect excuse to bleat again. So now he's chopped liver to me.
Some people are absolutely shameless. If they can't afford the price, then don't bloody book. It isn't that difficult, is it?
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Abolutely Darcy...when regulars go BAAD!
I just blocked his ass.
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Good! I just blocked my naughty regular too - clearing out the trash! :-\
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Guys, when do you think AndultWork will enable offering escort services?
I'm wondering because even when lockdown will be over, social distancing will still apply...
Other question, on what phase will you plan to come back to work?
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Guys, when do you think AndultWork will enable offering escort services?
I'm wondering because even when lockdown will be over, social distancing will still apply...
There's nothing stopping you working via an ad on the AW site, you just can't use the booking form? They're covering their backs presumably, but at least some of the people here currently taking bookings will be using Adultwork as a source of business :).
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A nice regular rang with a big intro about having less wages, no overtime and asked for my 'best price'. Plus requesting another service thrown in the pot.
Thing is, he was mildly angling for this before the plague and this gives him the perfect excuse to bleat again. So now he's chopped liver to me.
"My best price? Oh, that's 10 times the amount shown on my profile, I doubt you could afford that though." >:D
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I've just had a regular text me, he only visits twice a month and he is telling me he has been made redundant but still wants to see me AFTER LOCKDOWN (by law) for bookings but looking for a deal. I've just told him I'll reduce my price to £100 per hour. I did explain I will be offering this to all my regular good clients to ease the burden of their jobs.
We make a lot of money and I dont want to come across as greedy to my good regular clients. He was extremely grateful and said he will only visit me from now on and visit more often. It pays to provide a nice loyal service to regulars. X
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:) too right Cat! Luckily I feel able to flush him down the poopan and not rely on his 'once in a blue moon' dollah.
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Does anyone know when hotels will open? I heard schools will open in September but wondering if hotels will be sooner?
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Although we don't know when hotels will re-open I think it will be before pubs and restaurants do. As the government will be phasing in the return of different types of businesses. With hairdressers/massage practitioners and the like being the last to re-open (from what I gather anyway).
I have already noticed Next online has re-opened which is a heartening sign. Not sure if that is relevant but at least it means if I need anything I can order it.
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I've just had a regular text me, he only visits twice a month and he is telling me he has been made redundant but still wants to see me AFTER LOCKDOWN (by law) for bookings but looking for a deal. I've just told him I'll reduce my price to £100 per hour. I did explain I will be offering this to all my regular good clients to ease the burden of their jobs.
We make a lot of money and I dont want to come across as greedy to my good regular clients. He was extremely grateful and said he will only visit me from now on and visit more often. It pays to provide a nice loyal service to regulars. X
I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to offer discounts. How do you know they're telling the truth regarding their job/redundancy? How do you know he will visit ONLY YOU from now on?
My point is - do what you have/want to do, but still be careful what you say NOW. Might be best to say something like "lets discuss that after lockdown, I'm sure we can come to some arrangement" rather than " yes I will see you at X price".
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I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to offer discounts. How do you know they're telling the truth regarding their job/redundancy? How do you know he will visit ONLY YOU from now on?
My point is - do what you have/want to do, but still be careful what you say NOW. Might be best to say something like "lets discuss that after lockdown, I'm sure we can come to some arrangement" rather than " yes I will see you at X price".
Exactly Cat, I was just thinking the same, He is saying he will only visit you, but isn’t this what they all say when they want discounts, I know your offering it yourself. I look at their actions. Words like that are cheap, I get annoyed when they say to me, “I will only see you”.
The best ones are the ones who say nothing.
Good luck with that one V!
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I'm thinking long term there has to be a fall in our rates over the next 6 to 12 months to reflect the new economy, like any other luxury or non essential product or service is going to have to do.
However I'm not planning on budging straight away as I believe there will be an initial surge post the lockdown which we need to capitalize on.
The reality will then set in when both the recession kicks in and companies need to lay people off when theres no furlough support and secondly when cases and deaths begin to accelerate back again due to lower social distancing.
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I'm thinking long term there has to be a fall in my rates over the next 6 to 12 months
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I'm thinking long term there has to be a fall in our rates over the next 6 to 12 months to reflect the new economy, like any other luxury or non essential product or service is going to have to do.
However I'm not planning on budging straight away as I believe there will be an initial surge post the lockdown which we need to capitalize on.
The reality will then set in when both the recession kicks in and companies need to lay people off when theres no furlough support and secondly when cases and deaths begin to accelerate back again due to lower social distancing.
Yes I thought this too, long term for me! But that’s when if I do go back I can bounce the rates about up and down like a yo yo. Many businesses have “specials” between certain times or days or Groupon deals when things are tough. My dentist who is super expensive had them ongoing pre lockdown, I hope he brings them down too after the surge.
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I've just had a regular text me, he only visits twice a month and he is telling me he has been made redundant but still wants to see me AFTER LOCKDOWN (by law) for bookings but looking for a deal. I've just told him I'll reduce my price to £100 per hour. I did explain I will be offering this to all my regular good clients to ease the burden of their jobs.
We make a lot of money and I dont want to come across as greedy to my good regular clients. He was extremely grateful and said he will only visit me from now on and visit more often. It pays to provide a nice loyal service to regulars. X
And this is why hagglers exist.
We are running a business just like everyone else, it’s got nothing to do with greed. We are not charities and a client’s financial issues are nothing to do with us either. That’s if he’s even telling the truth, clients lie all the time and especially to get a bargain.
I certainly won’t be lowering my rates, if anything, I might raise them as I won’t be able to take as many bookings and probably will stop doing 30 minutes.
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I certainly won’t be lowering my rates, if anything, I might raise them as I won’t be able to take as many bookings and probably will stop doing 30 minutes.
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I offer 15 min quickies for £40. Do you gals thinkn I should scrap the 15 mins and only offer 30 mins or longer?
Thoughts pleasex
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I've just had a regular text me, he only visits twice a month and he is telling me he has been made redundant but still wants to see me AFTER LOCKDOWN (by law) for bookings but looking for a deal. I've just told him I'll reduce my price to £100 per hour. I did explain I will be offering this to all my regular good clients to ease the burden of their jobs.
We make a lot of money and I dont want to come across as greedy to my good regular clients. He was extremely grateful and said he will only visit me from now on and visit more often. It pays to provide a nice loyal service to regulars. X
No no and noooooo way. Not when every time we take a booking between now a a vaccine we are
In danger.
Of course your client your choice. But for me the risks are too high. If they can’t afford to punt perhaps they shouldn’t be. There will be plenty of guys who haven’t lost their jobs and can afford the normal or increased rate.
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And this is why hagglers exist.
We are running a business just like everyone else, it’s got nothing to do with greed. We are not charities and a client’s financial issues are nothing to do with us either. That’s if he’s even telling the truth, clients lie all the time and especially to get a bargain.
I certainly won’t be lowering my rates, if anything, I might raise them as I won’t be able to take as many bookings and probably will stop doing 30 minutes.
Spot on Barbie,
If I told my expensive dentist “Hey I am having difficulty’s as I didn’t make any money and I am struggling so can you help” The answer would be No and my teeth would have to rot!
Buying sex is not essential, my teeth are :D
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And this is why hagglers exist.
We are running a business just like everyone else, it’s got nothing to do with greed. We are not charities and a client’s financial issues are nothing to do with us either. That’s if he’s even telling the truth, clients lie all the time and especially to get a bargain.
I certainly won’t be lowering my rates, if anything, I might raise them as I won’t be able to take as many bookings and probably will stop doing 30 minutes.
I second this hun. I dont want to do any kind of volume until a vaccine is found. Rather have 3 high priced hours a a day. Than 6 30 mins lower price. It’s going to feel awful working not knowing if someone who you just serviced has given you a horrible disease. It’s a mind fuck to be honest to go back. Dreading it.
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^^Agreed! In my experience if you give them an inch they will take a mile.
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If I told my expensive dentist “Hey I am having difficulty’s as I didn’t make any money and I am struggling so can you help” The answer would be No and my teeth would have to rot!
Buying sex is not essential, my teeth are :D
Exactly. If a client can’t afford my prices then his balls can stay blue! Like you said with the dentist, it’s not his problem if you’re having a hard time is it? We are no different. When clients haggle, they automatically disrespect and belittle our trade by believing the rate is up for discussion.
I second this hun. I dont want to do any kind of volume until a vaccine is found. Rather have 3 high priced hours a a day. Than 6 30 mins lower price. It’s going to feel awful working not knowing if someone who you just serviced has given you a horrible disease. It’s a mind fuck to be honest to go back. Dreading it.
Same. I know a lot of my 30 minute regulars won’t mind paying the hourly rate. People are extra nosey at the minute so having a high volume of clients could raise unwanted attention.
Don’t let it get you down. We need to pay our bills just like everyone else, there are plenty of other people at work in the UK at the minute that are coming into contact with more than 2/3 people a day.
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I should think that some sensible punters would prefer to see girls with higher prices so that less men are being serviced. But punters always moan about girls charging too much. When I put my prices up I had guys moaning asking to see me for less and I told them that I'm worth it and if they didn't think so then find someone in their price range. It's a cheek, I'd tell them fine I'll drop my rates but also take off the menu a few likes and I'll lay back and let them do the work, Save my nice undies and expensive perfume too and only put in 70% effort too.
It's important to charge what we feel we are worth and happy with. I have a good regular that books me 3 to 6 hours and I'd be happy to do a deal when I know the long term outcome is beneficial.
Guys have plenty of variety on AW with a price to suit all.Some guys will only pay a certain amount as they think that's all a punt is worth, They will be hoping prices drop and try to get a bargain.
We wont get cheaper rent or food bill, Electric and gas because of a loss of earnings.
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I should think that some sensible punters would prefer to see girls with higher prices so that less men are being serviced. But punters always moan about girls charging too much.
We are heading into a serious recession. Trust me if we put our prices up our business will be quiet. I'm reducing my rates to keep my business good and to provide a good service which helps keep regulars returning. £120ph I charge, in light of people losing their jobs it's going down to £100ph. Punters dont want to pay silly high rates. X
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Not when every time we take a booking between now a a vaccine we are
In danger.
It's been pointed out more than once already, but every time we take a booking we are in danger full stop, regardless of the current prevailing circumstances.
I should think that some sensible punters would prefer to see girls with higher prices so that less men are being serviced. But punters always moan about girls charging too much. When I put my prices up I had guys moaning asking to see me for less and I told them that I'm worth it and if they didn't think so then find someone in their price range. It's a cheek, I'd tell them fine I'll drop my rates but also take off the menu a few likes and I'll lay back and let them do the work, Save my nice undies and expensive perfume too and only put in 70% effort too.
It's important to charge what we feel we are worth and happy with. I have a good regular that books me 3 to 6 hours and I'd be happy to do a deal when I know the long term outcome is beneficial.
Guys have plenty of variety on AW with a price to suit all.Some guys will only pay a certain amount as they think that's all a punt is worth, They will be hoping prices drop and try to get a bargain.
We wont get cheaper rent or food bill, Electric and gas because of a loss of earnings.
I don't find that punters moan to me about prices - I can't remember the last time one did? I get the odd haggly text, but they're just twats, not punters.
And if a punter is genuinely sensible, he'll know fine well that higher prices don't necessarily mean somebody is doing fewer bookings than somebody else who charges half as much - if the latter has just slung a crap profile with crap pictures up on AW without putting any thought into it or bothering with any other ads, and then doesn't put the effort into the service either (so doesn't encourage new business or make them them want to return) then they won't be busy just because their rates are lower, and why should they be?
There's plenty of choice on AW and even more outside it - here in London it's possible to spend twenty or so quid at the walkups or hand thousands to a fancy agency pimp, and every possible amount inbetween. Even in smaller places there are parlours, working flats, massage shops, indies and so on - there's no need to try and second guess what a punters' budget is because like us, punters are all different.
I've had regulars who stick a fiver a week in a jar to save up so they can treat themselves, and others who will book every time they're in my area just because it's their only opportunity - very few IME are as obsessed with price as some of these posts seem to think, and if I've learned anything in almost twenty years, if they want to see you they will.
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We are heading into a serious recession. Trust me if we put our prices up our business will be quiet. I'm reducing my rates to keep my business good and to provide a good service which helps keep regulars returning. £120ph I charge, in light of people losing their jobs it's going down to £100ph. Punters dont want to pay silly high rates. X
Veronica, I came back to working in December 2007 and went full time early in February 2008 when the last recession was in full tilt and the world was in shit street. I was still busy enough that I bought myself a (cheapish) flat that summer and had paid for it within a year.
If how you work works for you and your business that's great. Other people and their punter demographics are different to you and yours, and that's great too :).
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I don't care what punters thing are silly prices , I don't want to see punters who want to pay £100 and that's my personal experience in the area I work. Where I am the standard is £150 upwards. If I was a £100 I'd get way too many calls than i could seal with which would be good for some and not for others. We all work differently.
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I don't care what punters thing are silly prices , I don't want to see punters who want to pay £100 and that's my personal experience in the area I work. Where I am the standard is £150 upwards. If I was a £100 I'd get way too many calls than i could seal with which would be good for some and not for others. We all work differently.
I want to see them and I often do, but I'm in a completely different area and £100 is my half hour rate :).
Along the same lines, the people who always want everything cheaper won't change regardless of the actual figure - if you offered an hour for £50 they'd want it for £40. A race to the bottom does nobody any good, and I think most can also understand that trying to engender a situation where we have to do twice the number of bookings we'd choose to to earn the money we need isn't likely to get them the best service, not to mention the increased likelihood of timings going tits up when somebody's late, won't leave on time and so on.
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As myself and others have said before, you get twats booking you no matter what price you charge, high or low. Just because someone is willing to pay 500 quid an hour doesn't make them a decent human being or a good client.
I'd have thought it was obvious that we're all just going to have to see how it goes once lockdown is over. Some men won't be affected at all, others could be drastically, others might have been able to save up a nice little punting fund and fancy a splurge.
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We are heading into a serious recession. Trust me if we put our prices up our business will be quiet. I'm reducing my rates to keep my business good and to provide a good service which helps keep regulars returning. £120ph I charge, in light of people losing their jobs it's going down to £100ph. Punters dont want to pay silly high rates. X
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Punters will pay what they want to pay.
Dropping your rate can sometimes lead to boundary pushers finding their way to your door, I know, I’ve experienced it. It may lead to more business, or it may just be the same, or you may get those who saw you were one price before ask for you to drop it again if they notice.
If you want to drop your rate that is totally up to you, paying for sex is a luxury not a necessity. There have been “hard times” before and there will be hard time’s again, and no doubt plenty of punters will find the money to pay for sex then and now.
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The range of opinions are really interesting and I've taken some of the points on board.
However the financial climate will be a lot more worse than 2008; still convinced post furlough- job losses will go through the roof. Moreover people will now be riddled with debt repayments all of a sudden ( personal credit card or these emergency loans that have been given)
Then with the remainder that can still afford...a large percentage won't risk it when death rates continue after the lockdown. It's no different to punters stopping if unprotected sex was the only thing on offer.
its apparent the risks of serious illness with covid is more than catching an STI. I'm not convinced on the logic of an eye test of whether a punter has no symptoms then go ahead with a booking; given my point on STIs.
But as we have agreed, may differ by region and client base, so will be interesting how we fare in the next 6 months.
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I'm in no rush to go back to work yet. And when I do start back I'll be happy to make my working flat rent back and the same in profit to cover what my ex wont pay towards raising my kids, I dont want to lower rates or stress if it's slow. I started escorting to better my future opportunities and not to drag me down with worry. We may have less work in the months after lockdown but still be earning well compared to a everyday full-time job. Girls working now are doing ok and may well be a flush will guys gagging after lockdown and that's definitely earnings to keep set aside.
I've had to ditch my old work number because of guys trying to get some contact, Sex chat and telking me how horny they are lol.
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Definitely don't drop prices! Like it's been stated punters will pay what they're going to pay. I've just started but surprisingly been really busy this month regardless of my low reviews, we're definitely not an essential service so not sure why we'd need to put our prices down.. we've got bills to pay too.
(Not concerned with Coronavirus)
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There will be less escorts around as many will have decided to leave for good and I would imagine fewer taking it up right now owing to the pandemic. So the fact there are fewer around may be to our advantage.
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Its possible that for any percentage of clients who decide not to carrying on punter there may be an equitable number of former escorts who decide to not come back, maybe those who'll have claimed UC and decide to use that until they get another job, or have already got another job, or have switched to cam and decide they prefer it. Its hard to say.
At the moment I just am waiting with baited breathe to find out what the UK's lockdown easing is going to consist of so I can plan what I do next. Its feasible that even if lockdown is eased in the next few weeks because escorting is close contact non essential service it may not strictly apply to us, or if the gov goes with track and trace - I don't know how that would work with us for a bunch of reasons. In any case, even with the SE grant (which is only promised a s 3 month lump sum and by the time we get it, two months will have passed) I can't afford to not working for months and months without any clear end point.
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We are heading into a serious recession. Trust me if we put our prices up our business will be quiet. I'm reducing my rates to keep my business good and to provide a good service which helps keep regulars returning. £120ph I charge, in light of people losing their jobs it's going down to £100ph. Punters dont want to pay silly high rates. X
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Please remember just as we are monitoring their sight many of them monitor this one. Driving prices down when none of us have been working for months is not really what we want to be doing.
I always look after regulars. But we have to be realistic here I don’t even do half hour for that price and won’t be looking to reduce my rate when I haven’t worked for months.
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Posted in the seeking section regarding an apartment etc in the areas I can get to. Please do let me know if you know of any places workable / to rent rn.
I really need to have some money coming in ASAP, as I’m sure we all do, as much as I’m worried about my health and that of others. I don’t know how else I’m going to stay afloat for the next few months without working. :(
Think I’ve become too reliant on instant cash that this job allows. Adultwork credits takes like two weeks, and most other sites like that are the same.
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I don't know what punters' sight has to do with anything so I assume I've misunderstood (and whatever it is I'm certainly not 'monitoring' it), but we're not having this turn into a pissing contest. Everyone here can and will charge whatever they're comfortable with and what works best for them, and it is not for anybody else to criticise that. We all know our respective markets, and it's getting
even more boring now.
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Think I’ve become too reliant on instant cash that this job allows. Adultwork credits takes like two weeks, and most other sites like that are the same.
Eve, did you see the post in the Self Employment thread about the new business loan that's being made available from Monday? I'm loath to think too much about it before we know more, but one thing that was definitely said was that the money would be made available quickly to people who can get it so possibly only a week or so away?
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The range of opinions are really interesting and I've taken some of the points on board.
However the financial climate will be a lot more worse than 2008; still convinced post furlough- job losses will go through the roof. Moreover people will now be riddled with debt repayments all of a sudden ( personal credit card or these emergency loans that have been given)
Then with the remainder that can still afford...a large percentage won't risk it when death rates continue after the lockdown. It's no different to punters stopping if unprotected sex was the only thing on offer.
its apparent the risks of serious illness with covid is more than catching an STI. I'm not convinced on the logic of an eye test of whether a punter has no symptoms then go ahead with a booking; given my point on STIs.
But as we have agreed, may differ by region and client base, so will be interesting how we fare in the next 6 months.
I think if pub, cinema, nightclub, gym all entertainment closed few more month and many people still get 80% salary they have more spare money. Problem not money, problem men not want risk catch virus and give to wife or older family. Maybe more young start booking because nothing else to do, older men in high risk stop
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Unfortunately we can only speculate on punters new spending behaviour with lockdown but B&Q is very busy so possibly money being used on the house and garden. Be interesting to see when restaurants and clubs, Bars and pubs open up again. For most guys they need a reason to leave home and without the gym or meeting mates for a drink it will be hard for this percentage to punt if OH is working from home too.
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More accidents happen in the living room than anywhere else in the home. These chaps need to get out at some point to increase their odds of survival.
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Unfortunately we can only speculate on punters new spending behaviour with lockdown but B&Q is very busy so possibly money being used on the house and garden. Be interesting to see when restaurants and clubs, Bars and pubs open up again. For most guys they need a reason to leave home and without the gym or meeting mates for a drink it will be hard for this percentage to punt if OH is working from home too.
Yes well pointed out. Most of my regulars tend to use football golf to get out the house to see me. My regulars are telling me most of their wifes/partners are now working from home so that's making it more difficult for them to get out the house to punt. Once all these establishments open again will help x
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More accidents happen in the living room than anywhere else in the home. These chaps need to get out at some point to increase their odds of survival.
There is a plausible excuse as when lockdown is lifted the shopping regime will stay the same so the ques. Now that is an excuse to their partners the ones whom are attached as you have to go to the large store and then park up and que.
So all is not lost for punters in that category.
They just have to remember to return home with shopping and not empty handed. ;D
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I worked yesterday and quite a few calls and texts, -two from chaps in the workplace. But suits is my norm as I'm in a non residential area. I presume they're 'key' workers, not necessarily medical. Construction and a bank is open and the callers are probably from there.
Uder and Deliverpoo are keyworkers now apparently.
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I worked yesterday and quite a few calls and texts from chaps in the workplace. But that's my norm as I'm in a non residential area. I presume they're 'key' workers, not necessarily medical. Construction and a bank is open and the callers are probably from there.
Uder and Deliverpoo are keyworkers now apparently.
How did you find working yesterday? Was it really busy? Did anyone mention working during lockdown?
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Darcy-One of them mentioned being in the office and the actual client was contracted to work from a different area. No one mentioned lockdown.
I had around 10 total calls and texts which for me is a lot as often, 1 or 2 calls=1 job....so fair amount- of wastage, non responders, un-beloved and phantom texters.
I had 4 offers and accepted only one that seemed kosher. They were 15 minute offers not the most expensive jobs. But those are snappy, cheerful and zero stress.
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I have been thinking about things over the past month and would like some advice, please.
I'm not sure how to go about working with everything going on?
Is there a high risk of clients reporting escorts? Then I think to myself why would they shoot themselves in the foot.
I know not everyone will agree with my decision but when needs must.
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Depends how you feel personally about what's going on. Myself, I know I'm low risk and not in a position to pass it on. I've worked the past month and been quite busy. I doubt they will report as like you said they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
We all make our own choices and have our own opinion so no need to worry what yours is :)
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I saw one regular on Monday and again today.
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I have been thinking about things over the past month and would like some advice, please.
I'm not sure how to go about working with everything going on?
Is there a high risk of clients reporting escorts? Then I think to myself why would they shoot themselves in the foot.
I know not everyone will agree with my decision but when needs must.
It's breaking the law, so you need to be prepared for the consequences of that (especially as it's beginning to look as if lockdown MAY be at the beginning of the end at least).
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I think a client would only report you if they felt you had upset them in some way. That would be an extreme reaction though and not very likely.
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I wonder when AW and Vivastreet will be back without there banners
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I have been thinking about things over the past month and would like some advice, please.
I'm not sure how to go about working with everything going on?
Is there a high risk of clients reporting escorts? Then I think to myself why would they shoot themselves in the foot.
I know not everyone will agree with my decision but when needs must.
Hi Emma,
Sorry but there is no way to sugar coat this
If you do start working again then you would be breaking the law
All hospital admissions are now tested for the virus and some people are testing positive for the virus without having any symptoms so even with the best screening in the world your not going to know if you’ve been with a infected person until it’s to late
God forbid and the worst happens and you did catch it and need hospital treatment, you will then be asking medical staff (who are also dying) to treat you as you’ve not followed the rules
My green light was on for the first 2days of lock down and I’m sure that I was not the only person who got a number of messages questioning why
My duo partner who works from her home had continued to work up until last week when she had a visit from the police
Even if the government start to ease the lockdown restriction soon the social distancing rules will still remain
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I don't think punters would report and it's not like WGs are forcing guys to punt it's a grown up choice. And now its impossible for guys to pick up one night stands on a night out in bars and clubs, I wonder if those guys will now look to punt. And it's only illegal if you knowingly have symptoms and work, I been going to my local suoermarket and not one member of staff been off with CV, I know the manager, and they see hundreds of people a day. It's about being sensible and I haven't caught a cold in a year but that could just be down to a good immune system because I've jussed many guys in the last 14 months. Some people are more prone to catching stuff and those individuals will stay home.
It's important to check oxygen levels in the blood, Something we can all do with a cheap device off Amazon. If we have to exist with another virus then we will do, Still got to live and work to pay the bills. I will go back to work July or August and I actually hate working in the heat and I'm glad to have the time off. I didn't have a holiday or anything for a year.
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Once lickdown is over AW will be back in full swing, It's probably profited more from getting money from more camming. Even in this situation winners and losers.
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And it's only illegal if you knowingly have symptoms and work
Where have you got this absolute rubbish from?
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For the avoidance of doubt, this is from the .gov website where there is also a list of non essential businesses affected, for anybody who genuinely can't grasp the difference between places selling food and basic necessities and whoring :).
As of 1pm on 26 March 2020 new Regulations extending the restrictions are now enforceable by law in England due to the threat to public health. These supersede Regulations that came into force at 2pm on 21 March 2020.
Everyone is instructed to comply with the rules issued by the government in relation to coronavirus, in order to protect both themselves and others.
An owner, proprietor or manager carrying out a business (or a person responsible for other premises) who contravenes the regulations, without reasonable excuse, commits an offence.
In England, Environmental Health and Trading Standards officers will monitor compliance with these regulations, with police support provided if appropriate. Businesses and venues that breach them will be subject to prohibition notices, and a person, who is 18 or over, carrying on a business in contravention of the regulations may be issued with a fixed penalty. With the support of the police, prohibition notices can be used to require compliance with the regulations including requiring that an activity ceases. It is also an offence, without reasonable excuse, to fail to comply with a prohibition notice.
If prohibition notices are not complied with, or fixed penalty notice not paid, you may also be taken to court with magistrates able to impose potentially unlimited fines.
Anybody who chooses to work needs to be aware of this if they're not already, and also the chances of winding up in a grim redtop (as some people already have) if some scum journo decides to give you a call. Pointing this out (as several posters have done already) is one thing. What we won't tolerate here is shrieking, judgemental crap towards other sex workers, and such posts will continue to be removed without seeing the light of day. Go and find some fucking Lego, or something.
I switched my work phone on briefly this morning for the first time in about ten days and a fair few texts came through wanting bookings for the next few days. Since my site clearly says I'm not working, I've blocked them all under my 'Didn't even read the front page' rule, so that's some screening time saved in a few weeks :).
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I think once all businesses are back up and running and also schools then AW will lifts its green light ban.
I doubt AW would wait until all social groups and churches/mosques/synagagoes and the like around the world are back open and clubs and societies fully up and running again.
To my mind that would mean July ish latest.
Just an educated guess mind.
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What 'green light ban' is this, LB? ???
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Once lickdown is over AW will be back in full swing, It's probably profited more from getting money from more camming. Even in this situation winners and losers.
I think AW remove warning when government says no longer illegal to visit people in different houses. This be first or second change in lockdown, so either next week or 3 week after that when lockdown review again. Because visit people in other house is only thing of lockdown that effect our work and is what AW say in banner warning.
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I'm pretty sure that AW is only showing the warning to protect it's own back legally. I can't blame them either.
As far as working during this time goes, I don't think it's fair to judge anyone. I have been seriously considering returning to work, but have managed to avoid it by doing lots of camming. There are lots of us that aren't that lucky though...
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Once lickdown is over AW will be back in full swing, It's probably profited more from getting money from more camming.
I'd definitely prefer to be stuck in a lickdown than a lockdown. :D
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Sorry Amy I thought there was a green light ban because of bookings being blocked. I haven't been using the Available Today recently at all so I wouldn't know.
Good to find out that it is still up and running though.
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I'd definitely prefer to be stuck in a lickdown than a lockdown. :D
I know lol But depends who's kicking now. I wish I was in a lickdown with Henry Cavill :)
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I meant lockdown not Kicking bloody phone, Gosh this is going into a totally different direction lol
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I know lol But depends who's kicking now. I wish I was in a lickdown with Henry Cavill :)
:D
I meant lockdown not Kicking bloody phone, Gosh this is going into a totally different direction lol
At this point, I would get kicks out of any licks! ;D
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Sorry Amy I thought there was a green light ban because of bookings being blocked. I haven't been using the Available Today recently at all so I wouldn't know.
Good to find out that it is still up and running though.
Yes, Adultwork have nobly and selflessly allowed anybody who wants to to give them five pounds a day throughout the whole thing ;D.
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:D
At this point, I would get kicks out of any licks! ;D
Thanks 80s for making me laugh today at myself and for yourself making light of things :)
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I'm pretty sure that AW is only showing the warning to protect it's own back legally. I can't blame them either.
As far as working during this time goes, I don't think it's fair to judge anyone. I have been seriously considering returning to work, but have managed to avoid it by doing lots of camming. There are lots of us that aren't that lucky though...
yup i totally agree with you re adulwork showing the warning
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Aw are just covering their backs.
Meanwhile all the economic uncertainty is not doing great wonders for my anxiety state. I have been waiting on my two hour man arranging a booking again but he is awaiting electrical parts for his job and they are stuck at the sorting office where half the staff are off sick with corona. Not great.
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Girls
I'm feeling really low after watching news tonight. The economy is going down the tubes,- airlines going bust making people redundant. Then being told schools wont be being back until at least September. Then half work force in UK are furlowed. Then there's social distancing which may last forever.
Major sporting events being cancelled. This crisis is much worse than the 2008 financial crisis, much worse. Then we have the threat of the carona virus catching us and a surge of repeat cases again. Dont know about you girls but I'm starting to feel down and loosing the thought of being able to do our jobs again. I am also struggling financially as I've not worked for the last few months. Some clients have asked how I am which is lovely of them.
Just feel everything is going on a downward spiral. X
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I'm worried about how cash now is frowned upon now with germs and reading a comment recently that implied anyone using cash after covid is either a criminal, Tax dodger, Drug dealer.Prostitute was not mentioned lol I was sneered at by a supermarket cashier when I paid with cash and not card, She asked if I could pay card instead and I said I can't.
I hope we don't end up having to use only banks for our money, With card payments everything you do, Go is logged online. I don't like the idea of that.
If they try and make us a cashless society then what would that mean for our line of work. Most guys don't want unexplained transactions to pay for a escort on statements.
None of the above is set in stone to happen, Is a personal pondering of what might happen and at this time cash is seen as dirty tender and more places now only want card payments. I don't really like self service but at least you can feed those cash.
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I wonder what the outcome will be tmrw when Boris gives us his review
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I wonder what the outcome will be tmrw when Boris gives us his review
Isn't that on Sunday?
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Isn't that on Sunday?
That's what I have seen and it's been carefully snuck in, should/could have been tomorrow but I noticed last Saturday and Sunday articles appearing mentioning 'next Sunday' as announcement date. I wondered if it was a typo, then it continued in subsequent articles. They are keeping us hanging longer, and longer and I don't like that it's not fair.
However I think I might try not to hang on to Sunday, just keep plodding on assuming same as today.............then whatever it is might be a nice surprise.
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If they ease the restrictions slightly, people may get a bit overexcited so I’m guessing they want to avoid a weekend boom so have scheduled the announcement for Sunday evening to mitigate the chances of lots of people heading out in large numbers over the weekend.
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I've read the review was tmrw but oh well Sunday it is then! But I agree not fair to keep us hanging.. Praying for some positive things
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I've read the review was tmrw but oh well Sunday it is then! But I agree not fair to keep us hanging.. Praying for some positive things
Tomorrow is three weeks from the last review so it should have been then - the last review was supposed to have been three weeks from Monday 23rd but was three days later on the Thursday so I suppose it's no different.
Apparently while we'll get some kind of vague announcement tomorrow Sunday is the day for the actual 'roadmap', which to speakers of English rather than stupid twattish jargon means the detailed contingency plan for the next few weeks. Or so it stands at the moment :).
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Scotland have just announced a further 3 weeks lockdown, this will be getting on for 10 weeks all in and I expect Wales & England & NI will follow suit. Bored now.
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Scotland have just announced a further 3 weeks lockdown, this will be getting on for 10 weeks all in and I expect Wales & England & NI will follow suit. Bored now.
I've just scrolled through BBC News and BBC News Scotland looking for the further 3 week lockdown for Scotland, I can see lots of other discussion but nothing about a specific 3 weeks extra?
To be honest I have had a suspicion that the aim is 12 weeks of lockdown, remember they asked the highest risk groups to prepare for this, well I think they want it for us all. Plus the magic 12 weeks for the self-employed scheme, I am not a conspiracy theorist but I am starting to think and feel a bit pawnish. Twelve weeks is a long time.
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They've changed it, I thought I was going mad then! It's on page 2 of the Live news on the BBC news site, 12.53pm now states
'Scotland lockdown plans due on Thursday
James Shaw
BBC Scotland reporter
Earlier we reported lockdown in Scotland would continue for at least another three weeks.
But First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said a decision on that will in fact be announced on Thursday.'
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They've changed it, I thought I was going mad then! It's on page 2 of the Live news on the BBC news site, 12.53pm now states
'Scotland lockdown plans due on Thursday
James Shaw
BBC Scotland reporter
Earlier we reported lockdown in Scotland would continue for at least another three weeks.
But First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said a decision on that will in fact be announced on Thursday.'
Thanks I looked everywhere and I am ashamed to say CV-19 got me again, I am a facts and try to be fact based person.
BUT
As soon as I thought another 3 weeks (I'm not in scotland), my first reaction was physical - I was on verge of tears, heart, stomach went.
I am very ashamed of that, yet know it's part of the effect of the situation. By the way I was brought up not to cry so if I cry things are very strong.
Just fed up of it.
It's such a long time, and a long time for everyone.
I need to think through it rather than at an announcement time in order to manage it, so I just keep going rather than cling on to something which is totally out of my control.
Next!
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Thanks I looked everywhere and I am ashamed to say CV-19 got me again, I am a facts and try to be fact based person.
BUT
As soon as I thought another 3 weeks (I'm not in scotland), my first reaction was physical - I was on verge of tears, heart, stomach went.
I am very ashamed of that, yet know it's part of the effect of the situation. By the way I was brought up not to cry so if I cry things are very strong.
Just fed up of it.
It's such a long time, and a long time for everyone.
I need to think through it rather than at an announcement time in order to manage it, so I just keep going rather than cling on to something which is totally out of my control.
Next!
Ah shit I'm sorry, I'm about the facts too and generally find BBC ok, not often something changes so I was too fast to quote.
It is getting tedious now, I agree with a lockdown but it's time to give us some hope.
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Ah shit I'm sorry, I'm about the facts too and generally find BBC ok, not often something changes so I was too fast to quote.
It is getting tedious now, I agree with a lockdown but it's time to give us some hope.
It wasn't/isn't your fault it's the entire situation.
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It is really emotionally draining too. I feel so damn lost....
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Lost is too mild a word at the moment to describe this horrible situation x I know I've already mentioned it but having our decisions made for us and our choices taken away from us is just too depressing, I am hating this I really am, I didn't realise how much I would miss packing up my little case and clearing off for a few days to work >:(.
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Despite this increase, the Government is to drop its "Stay Home" message this weekend after Public Health England told councils to prepare to remove the slogan from websites this weekend.
Quote from the Guardian but not sure it applies to 'our' banners lol
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Lost is too mild a word at the moment to describe this horrible situation x I know I've already mentioned it but having our decisions made for us and our choices taken away from us is just too depressing, I am hating this I really am, I didn't realise how much I would miss packing up my little case and clearing off for a few days to work >:(.
So true. I am feeling exactly the same.
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It is really emotionally draining too. I feel so damn lost....
Ditto. I’ve cried pretty much every day for the last 3 weeks. I’m losing my shit and i feel like a bad mother not being able to entertain from 7am til 8pm every day. It’s hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel! I have no motivation to do cam or create any content, i never knew how much my happiness relied on my regular routine!
We will all get there though, eventually.
Edit - having said that though, I’m not in a rush to return to taking bookings and am thinking I won’t be back for a while, I’m just too nervous about potentially catching and passing on to my child.
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Yo I have gained SO much weight guys. I am ashamed of myself ::)
I am bored out of my mind and going stir crazy.
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Lockdown is really beginning to affect my sanity.
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I think this lockdown will be extra long to protect the NHS then any future second wave/third wave lockdowns will be much shorter.
I just keep telling myself that this will pass soon.
It is the longterm economic repercussions that are the problem to be honest. Not just what we are currently in.
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Yes, lots of men will be jobless which will be bad for us, plus more women so there'll be more of us doing this, which will glut the market :(
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I doubt there will be more women turning to this profession I think most will be too frightened to catch the virus but I may be wrong.
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I’m actually getting sick of this personally. Considering turning my green light on very soon.
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If Martin Lewis states that 39% of the working population are affected by the pandemic in terms of their income then surely the other 61% are potential clients? He even states that some 25% of the working population are saving right now. I know friends who have saved over this phase e.g. teachers and lecturers. Public sector workers and so on.
Although I have never found many of our clients are public sector. Oddly enough. An interesting point of fact.
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Perhaps I'm too pessimistic, so fingers crossed.
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I am self isolating for 7 days awaiting my test results feel quite unwell . I'm at home alone will be glad when this is over and can get back to work .
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Hot flower I'm feeling unwell too but thier is a nasty head cold doing the rounds so maybe just that :(.x
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When I’m sad or stressed or anxious, I lose my appetite completely - so the plus is that I’m not gaining any weight! I can’t wait for gyms to re open, I go just as much to make my head happy!
Hope the ladies who aren’t feeling very well recover soon - fingers crossed for negative results x
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At least as I understand it, we are going to get some kind of announcement from the government on Sunday about what easing of the lockdown might look look, how it might be timed, although as people have pointed out British numbers of deaths are still pretty high so I am hoping they don't play fast and loose with this, much as I want to get back to work and get to the gym and the pool. Although from earlier reports early lockdown easing won't likely impact escorts. I have been told I am eligible to apply for the SE grant and can do so sooner than I thought I'd be able to so that's helped me relax a bit.
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Anyonr knows when hotels will be workable again
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Anyonr knows when hotels will be workable again
they are taking bookings from mid may onwards from what i checked
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Yo I have gained SO much weight guys. I am ashamed of myself ::)
I tried to put on a bra yesterday for the first time in ages, and it wasn't easy. I have done nothing but bake things and eat them for weeks :D.
Still, at least I'm not bored. I'm actually a nervous wreck about the first day back - this last seven weeks is the longest I have ever gone without working (at something or other) in over thirty years, and I'm bad enough if I've only had a week off. I will be jumping out of my bloody skin every time the phone goes, and God alone knows where the first few will wind up after I've given them directions ;D.
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Ughh [temoved - do not post links/press urls here]
Well scientists found the virus in seminal fluid including guys who had recovered. It is looking like it is sexually transmitted so good luck one and all
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I'll point out that the link above I removed was to a scum red top, and likely has as much credibility as a nine pound note. Either way, I'm struggling to see why traces of (not necessarily infectious) virus in semen is harder to avoid for us than those an infected person is breathing out just being in the same room - I would have thought it's the easiest thing to mitigate since most of us are likely to have some condoms lying about?
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I'll point out that the link above I removed was to a scum red top, and likely has as much credibility as a nine pound note. Either way, I'm struggling to see why traces of (not necessarily infectious) virus in semen is harder to avoid for us than those an infected person is breathing out just being in the same room - I would have thought it's the easiest thing to mitigate since most of us are likely to have some condoms lying about?
Maybe the scummy red top has no credibility bu these two British professors do
Prof Allan Pacey, Professor of Andrology at Sheffield University, said: “It shows that RNA for the virus responsible for Covid-19 can be detected in the semen of a proportion 16 per cent of men with a confirmed infection.
“This opens up the possibility that one route of infection may be through sexual contact, although this was not confirmed in the paper.
so does
Professor Richard Sharpe, from Edinburgh University and a Member of the Society of Endocrinology, said: “It found a minority of men who have had Covid-19 infection diagnosed in a hospital, also exhibit the presence of Covid-19 virus in their semen.
I would think the fact it looks like covid can possiblybe passed on via semen is very relevant to coronavirus affecting bookings especially the potential regarding OWO and CIM bookings. Hopefully even though it is in semen it cannot be passed on this way since 16% of infected guys is quite high in my books anyway. Condoms are not used by everyone but maybe they should be when restrictions are relaxed and OWO should be out of the question
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Maybe the scummy red top has no credibility bu these two British professors do
Prof Allan Pacey, Professor of Andrology at Sheffield University, said: “It shows that RNA for the virus responsible for Covid-19 can be detected in the semen of a proportion 16 per cent of men with a confirmed infection.
“This opens up the possibility that one route of infection may be through sexual contact, although this was not confirmed in the paper.
so does
Professor Richard Sharpe, from Edinburgh University and a Member of the Society of Endocrinology, said: “It found a minority of men who have had Covid-19 infection diagnosed in a hospital, also exhibit the presence of Covid-19 virus in their semen.
I would think the fact it looks like covid can possiblybe passed on via semen is very relevant to coronavirus affecting bookings especially the potential regarding OWO and CIM bookings. Hopefully even though it is in semen it cannot be passed on this way since 16% of infected guys is quite high in my books anyway. Condoms are not used by everyone but maybe they should be when restrictions are relaxed and OWO should be out of the question
Didn't it say that all but 2 were still infected?
Also if I'm going to be kissing I think I'm going to get it if it's there anyway.
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Maybe the scummy red top has no credibility bu these two British professors do
Then quote them rather than breaking forum rules and creating extra work for forum staff. And as ever, since nobody is (or should be) in a position to dictate how other adults have sex, it's a non starter anyway - we can all.choose the level of risk we're prepared to take, just as we always have.
Didn't it say that all but 2 were still infected?
Also if I'm going to be kissing I think I'm going to get it if it's there anyway.
Yes.
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I'm about to loose my sh-t too >:(
I believe the most important issue here is: when will kids go back to school. With kids at home parents can't go to work. I know a few people trying to work from home and they're finding it very challenging being in the same apartment with their kids and their job. Many clients will be stuck at home unable to escape having to monitor their kids online education.
What I'm pretty sure is that once kids are back to school and adults are allowed back to work guys are going to be quite desperate and our phones will be ringing of the hook (assuming they still have their jobs that is).
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Even if active virus is in semen, if you swallow quickly with CIM you should kill it. As with other nasty things in semen, the safest thing is not to hold it in your mouth for any length of time, and not brush your teeth just before or after.
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Oh god Kay that's interesting. I always spit and then use a strong mouthwash to rinse and then gargle. Sorry if you're having your tea.
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I tried to put on a bra yesterday for the first time in ages, and it wasn't easy. I have done nothing but bake things and eat them for weeks :D.
If it’s any consolation I have too. Saw two regulars who have both lost weight (how!) and they both said I looked amazing. I know they were desperate but still felt good.
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Ditto. I’ve cried pretty much every day for the last 3 weeks. I’m losing my shit and i feel like a bad mother not being able to entertain from 7am til 8pm every day. It’s hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel! I have no motivation to do cam or create any content, i never knew how much my happiness relied on my regular routine!
We will all get there though, eventually.
Edit - having said that though, I’m not in a rush to return to taking bookings and am thinking I won’t be back for a while, I’m just too nervous about potentially catching and passing on to my child.
Honesly I started off for the first 3 wks running every day and thinking I was gonna web cam all night and make a fortune. Then the last 3 wks haven’t even opened the web cam or done a run and am now hardly getting out of pj’s.
I do hope my original enthusiasm will come back.
Up until corona happened I was working a lot and feeling burned out. I think the rest is doing me good but I think at the back of all of our minds is when is it safe to get back to work.
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There was NO WAY I was doing any cam work (I feel awkward on camera anyway) or phone work (more in my wheelhouse) with these nosy kids at home, now that the youngest just learnt to read rather well, she has started to read over my shoulder now too so I can't even check messages around her. So...no money being made here....
I really feel the bra thing, it hurts like hell now. I am wearing my soft cup indoors.
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Me too and despite having a rowing machine lol But it's my fault I've been indulging in red wine. But before I go back to work I need to whip my arse into shape or I won't feel confident escorting. I'm a apple so yay for tits but not for belly fat :( Plus now I'm late thirties I realise I actually need to watch my diet.
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So the professors checked semen lol That seems extreme. I can't comment on this until I Google the F out of it lol That and how to shed my belly fat and back fat.
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Plus now I'm late thirties I realise I actually need to watch my diet.
Wait until you get to late forties and no longer care because you know you are fabulous :D
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I know this will sound utterly selfish, but I'm getting to where I'd rather catch the damn virus, live with the consequences, so I can get back to some normality and not be caged in like an animal :(
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Again it doesnt matter if you catch the virus. Even if you do catch the virus it doesnt make you immune to it. You can still catch it again :FF
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I know this will sound utterly selfish, but I'm getting to where I'd rather catch the damn virus, live with the consequences, so I can get back to some normality and not be caged in like an animal :(
I understand how you feel, it’s normal I think, we’ve been stuck for 7/8 weeks now it’s tough going.
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There's a chance you may have had the virus already as some cases are symptomless apparently.
A bit OT but a lot of information re corona seems to be conflicting and the measures introduced are being enforced inconsistently to say the least (packed trains during rush hour while people in parks are being apprehended by the police)
I mean its not like the virus is capable of cognition and distinguishes where social contact absolutely essential.
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Again it doesnt matter if you catch the virus. Even if you do catch the virus it doesnt make you immune to it. You can still catch it again :FF
Given that the most eminent scientists state not enough is known to give authoritative answers to the question of immunity, what is your source for this? Are you saying that you know more about it than they do, because if so you surely ought to be on the team with Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance rather than knocking out £40 quickies somewhere?
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There's a chance you may have had the virus already as some cases are symptomless apparently.
It's come up already earlier in the thread, but given the nature of our job I would be amazed if a significant number of us hadn't had it already, especially anybody who was working in Londom towards the back end of February/start of March. I wouldn't have put the symptoms I had down to CV unless my friend had told me that a number of them were textbook, because I never had a fever or a cough - I'm as certain as I can be that I've had it (and so was the NHS symptom checker when I looked) but whilst I felt dog rough for a couple of days and under the weather for a couple of weeks I was far more ill.when I had norovirus and also when I had flu in my twenties.
The problem is that until there's widespread antibody testing, this fear is going to continue and the endless whipping up by the media to sell their shitrags isn't helping.
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Again it doesnt matter if you catch the virus. Even if you do catch the virus it doesnt make you immune to it. You can still catch it again :FF
Recent news reports from the current science say having had it won’t definitively make you immune, the juries are out, but you may have over determined and oversimplified this. Having had it is still likely to offer some amount of protection from it in the future and immunity is still a major focus on improving the situation. It is wrong to say we definitively can catch it again.
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It's come up already earlier in the thread, but given the nature of our job I would be amazed if a significant number of us hadn't had it already, especially anybody who was working in Londom towards the back end of February/start of March. I wouldn't have put the symptoms I had down to CV unless my friend had told me that a number of them were textbook, because I never had a fever or a cough - I'm as certain as I can be that I've had it (and so was the NHS symptom checker when I looked) but whilst I felt dog rough for a couple of days and under the weather for a couple of weeks I was far more ill.when I had norovirus and also when I had flu in my twenties.
The problem is that until there's widespread antibody testing, this fear is going to continue and the endless whipping up by the media to sell their shitrags isn't helping.
I 've had the symptoms Nov last year, but back then corona wasn't the 'thing'
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I had an awful sore throat due to a headcold, lost my voice for a few days end of February but I am still convinced it was simply a cold. Person I share a household with didn't get it, and well according to current guidelines that person is in a risk group so surely they'd be whammed by it if I had?Same with any colds/feeling off I had prior to that.
Or perhaps not.
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Well nobody is going to be laid low because somebody else has a bug - they have to catch it first. And nothing's guaranteed (see Nadine Dorries who was far more ill than her mum, despite her mum being in her mid-eighties, I think). But yes, that sounds like a cold. From the information I could glean from the symptom checker, if you don't have any symptoms below the neck itt's unlikely to be a lower respiratory infection.
Back on topic, I had three variously dumb emails on AW this morning all wanting bookings either today or over the weekend - my autoreply will have got them and I don't plan to log in before the middle of next week at least, but I obviously overestimated the reading and comprehension ability of the site users as ever, and I'm going to have to sledgehammer it in words of one syllable.if I want any peace ::).
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Wait until you get to late forties and no longer care because you know you are fabulous :D
I'll look forward to that day :) I will say I'd rather be this age that in my twenties. But still I'm a bloody chunky monkey right now lol But my motivation is at a all time low.
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And now I don't think anything we have been drip fed regarding info on this virus is really worth believing 100%. I personally research stuff and read scientific papers and studies because I am deeply into nutritional health. And the guy that's advised our government on what we should do had his bit on the side visit him during lockdown for a bunk up, Makes me questions the experts that have been employed to give advice. We need to get natural immunity( just my personal opinion) because we can't live like this any longer than a month and it's down to our immune systems and our mental health too. The financial loss for us WGs and so may professions is going to be huge.
In my village today VE day street party gatherings. I think common sense is needed and I don't plan on living isolated and in fear. Be interesting to see in six months time if anything comes to light.
I've personally had and dealt with anxiety myself and family. So I do feel for anyone feeling anxious right now, Its a horrible feeling and unless you've had it, you cant understand how something like lockdown and isolation can magnify things plus the worry of financial insecurity and routine. I do hope anyone with anxiety can have some support right now.
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I personally feel lockdown damaged
us on many fronts, economy,
eduction for kids, "forgotten people" like,
men who need paid companies, people,
Who are already isolated socially and physically..
disabled people..
The virus was alerted a few years ago,
It must have been going around much,
much longer, I agree, many of
Us had it and recovered, or body
learned to live with it etc. lockdown was a
stupid idea.
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I personally feel lockdown damaged
us on many fronts, economy,
eduction for kids, "forgotten people" like,
men who need paid companies, people,
Who are already isolated socially and physically..
disabled people..
The virus was alerted a few years ago,
It must have been going around much,
much longer, I agree, many of
Us had it and recovered, or body
learned to live with it etc. lockdown was a
stupid idea.
It's only been around a few months, not years - that's why we locked down, because we don't know all the ins and outs of the pathology, epidemiology etc. It's always been a case of balancing public health versus the economy.
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at a risk of being off topic.
This sort of lockdown is unprecedented and its probably safe to say the effect it has on our economy can't be positive.
I would disagree that its money vs health. More like its health vs health.
When/ if we come out of this the country will be seriously economically damaged that is sure to have an effect on funding public services NHS included and public health will be affected in the long run due to underfunding, lack of staff etc.
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i was thinking about booking a hotel next weekend is it to soon?
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i was thinking about booking a hotel next weekend is it to soon?
If you can get a hotel to take your booking there's nothing stopping you Ex, but be prepared for anybody entering to be quizzed as to where they're going and what they're doing - I can't imagine you'll be able to work easily and as it stands at the moment you'll still be breaking the law.
As for the rest, can we please follow the above example and get back on topic? Turning everybody's favourite current buzz word from a noun into a verb doesn't make it either accurate or less annoying, and as we've just seen there are still sex workers here who need support :).
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i was thinking about booking a hotel next weekend is it to soon?
Last time I checked hotels were supposed to be closed, some may be open for essential workers NHS and the like - have you checked hotel websites?
Second I and I think all of us need to wait until tomorrow's speech, I don't think it's going to make a great deal of difference but who knows.
Thirdly if I start seeing clients again I am erring on seeing those I consider to have isolated lives (some of the guys I see outcall are like this, do truly have isolated lives), and aside of that I too have quite an isolated existence however I do have someone at home I have to protect.
Lots to think about although camming has helped a lot, I don't want to be sat in the same room all day every day when I can earn the same as 2 days camming in a one hour booking (taking up 3 hours of my time including getting ready, any travel). I don't however want to be off for 4 weeks because I get CV-19, and/or the other person in my household.
My idea is to mix in some isolated regulars with a few days camming to make enough to be ok mentally, physically and financially, whilst staying as safe as I can.
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im going to see what the government says this monday. I will probably look for an apartment.I have pms to it probably isnt helping my mood and a bit fed up of lockdown as i havent seen any friends. I am usually okay escorting but whenever i take a break of more than two weeks i find it really had to get back into
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im going to see what the government says this monday.
boris speech is tomorrow (Sunday) at 7:00 pm. I have my popcorn ready.
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I can't see any major easing of restrictions, but fingers crossed.
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Last time I checked hotels were supposed to be closed, some may be open for essential workers NHS and the like - have you checked hotel websites?
Second I and I think all of us need to wait until tomorrow's speech, I don't think it's going to make a great deal of difference but who knows.
Thirdly if I start seeing clients again I am erring on seeing those I consider to have isolated lives (some of the guys I see outcall are like this, do truly have isolated lives), and aside of that I too have quite an isolated existence however I do have someone at home I have to protect.
Lots to think about although camming has helped a lot, I don't want to be sat in the same room all day every day when I can earn the same as 2 days camming in a one hour booking (taking up 3 hours of my time including getting ready, any travel). I don't however want to be off for 4 weeks because I get CV-19, and/or the other person in my household.
My idea is to mix in some isolated regulars with a few days camming to make enough to be ok mentally, physically and financially, whilst staying as safe as I can.
I do admire your optimism at looking at hotels considering we are still in a lockdown and we haven't heard Boris 7pm speech yet. I doubt there will be much change for us on his speech. I think maybe around end of July August probably when we can return to our jobs. Even then its gonna be like a disinfectant regime for my punters to return, for them its meant to be relaxing not a clinical interrogation to go through.
I'm seriously needing money as I'm struggling and I'm thinking about quitting this job and look for a more reliable civvy job. See ladies on here say they have tried camming, I'm thinking about trying it but how much can you earn if you sit and cam all day? To me it sounds extremely tedious and frustrating way to earn but if the money is that good as you ladies say it is then I need to know ££££ please. X
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So .. go to work if you can’t work from home ... I can work from home .. so I can go to work? I wish they’d be clear.
I understand you’ll say that for us to work we can’t abide the 2 meters so perhaps we still can’t work? So does that mean hairdressers etc will still not be allowed ? I’m so confused and every speech I see on the news is filled with so much empty noise
July earliest opening for hospitality. Ughhh (for me working from hotels is the best fit).
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So .. go to work if you can’t work from home ... I can work from home .. so I can go to work? I wish they’d be clear.
I understand you’ll say that for us to work we can’t abide the 2 meters so perhaps we still can’t work? So does that mean hairdressers etc will still not be allowed ? I’m so confused and every speech I see on the news is filled with so much empty noise
Yea I really don't understand at all how we fit into all of this. Other than we can't have visitors generally at working from home I think generally means at at laptop or what have you, and so in that case even by August in this plan, if I've understood right, we are not able to go back to work?
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So .. go to work if you can’t work from home ... I can work from home .. so I can go to work? I wish they’d be clear.
I understand you’ll say that for us to work we can’t abide the 2 meters so perhaps we still can’t work? So does that mean hairdressers etc will still not be allowed ? I’m so confused and every speech I see on the news is filled with so much empty noise
I don’t know either. We need to go to work to pay our bills though? I know of a few nail techs working, I went to see mine yesterday. She said she’s seeing max 4 clients a day. I guess that’s no different to me seeing 4 clients a day either
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Nothing’s changed
Basically it’s a road map on what will happen in the future if all the figures & statistics continue to go in the right direction
Those statistics rely on everyone including us to do the right thing
It’s a little disappointing to read on hear that some ladies are still openly admitting to continue to meet men for bookings
In my opinion, only when the government allow the hospitality industry to open up could we then justify returning to some sort of normality
Until then stay safe everyone xxx
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I don’t know either. We need to go to work to pay our bills though? I know of a few nail techs working, I went to see mine yesterday. She said she’s seeing max 4 clients a day. I guess that’s no different to me seeing 4 clients a day either
The most I can glean from reading the speech over is that 'some hospitality workers' can (if their plan goes to plan) go back to work in July/August. We might be considered hospitality workers but who knows what the 'some' means even if we are; only those who can safely distance and remain hygienic ? In which case, unlikely.
It might help if we had been told (for personal reasons also!) when they plan to let visiting friends/boyfriends/lovers happen again because we could squeeze ourselves into that definition (seeing as our industry is not itself legal and we can only legally work as private individuals in totally private spaces etc etc) but no sign of those suggested plans yet either. Which, as others have said, might be more important for people to know than when we can visit the pub or go shopping for inessentials.
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I’ve seen clients 3 out of the 4 days on a max of two per day and min of 1 hour. I work my normal job during the week so I’m taking to take all precautions I can.
This weekend was 3 regulars (1 twice) and two new (one a condom remover.)
Seemed ok and I carried a notebook so I looked like with my bag I was on some form of official business.
All were outcalls at their location. Though summer nights and COVID have brought out the curtain twitchers.
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I've not fully digested BoJo's newest speech, but as I understand it the social distancing rule for people who aren't locked down together hasn't changed? So anything like having your nails done, having a hair cut, fucking a random stranger is still a no-no?
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I've not fully digested BoJo's newest speech, but as I understand it the social distancing rule for people who aren't locked down together hasn't changed? So anything like having your nails done, having a hair cut, fucking a random stranger is still a no-no?
Yep, that's about right.
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We cannot work as whores from home until hairdressers, massage parlours and TRUE beauticians can work again I'm afraid. As I said before we will be able to work probably around July or August.
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I've not fully digested BoJo's newest speech, but as I understand it the social distancing rule for people who aren't locked down together hasn't changed? So anything like having your nails done, having a hair cut, fucking a random stranger is still a no-no?
Yep correct. We basically will be the last ones to go back to work maybe when shops/ pubs/ restaurants open but then again we cannot keep 2 meters apart til we get a vaccine. So our industry is the worst of the bunch unfortunately for getting back to work safely.
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Yep correct. We basically will be the last ones to go back to work maybe when shops/ pubs/ restaurants open but then again we cannot keep 2 meters apart til we get a vaccine. So our industry is the worst of the bunch unfortunately for getting back to work safely.
Yea basically.
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Here's a quote from 'Memoirs of a Geisha' that captures the mood:
'A year without news except news of death, defeat, shame. Rumours of cities evaporating into clouds of smoke.
Then another year.
And then another.
Until the old life is a dream life. Was I ever geisha? Did I ever dance holding a fan? Who would hold a fan now or paint their lips?
And then another year.
Nothing.
Rice. Work. Rice. Work.
Nothing.'
And another one:
'Somewhere under those rags... are you still the greatest geisha in Miyako?'
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Here's a quote from 'Memoirs of a Geisha' that captures the mood:
And another one:
Its a pretty film, but I'd not mind about being greatest geisha in Miyako if I could go back to being a middling hooker in the midlands :D
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Its a pretty film, but I'd not mind about being greatest geisha in Miyako if I could go back to being a middling hooker in the midlands :D
Hehe :D
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Think a lot of us might be on a break for a while :( except some people working from their own homes
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Its a pretty film, but I'd not mind about being greatest geisha in Miyako if I could go back to being a middling hooker in the midlands :D
Middling hooker in the Midlands here also.
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Middling hooker in the Midlands here also.
Awesome its an honorable position in life and I already damn miss it.
I just read in The Guardian's summarisation and their interpretation of the 'in July some of the hospitality industry may open' is likely to mean those that can have a reasonable expectation of social distance. So I'll probably be missing it for a time yet.
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Think a lot of us might be on a break for a while :( except some people working from their own homes
Just because someone could work from home, it doesn't mean they're willing to break the law.
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It depends on how worked up you are about breaking the law ref working from home. Not many officials will be policing it as they have better things to do.
As for the hospitality industry I have checked the policies on hygiene from some of the companies that are under google search who advise the hotel industry and not one of them covers having guests in the rooms. So I wouldn't worry about the industry being finished. Far from it. It will just run on as usual.
I have started booking two day tours August onwards in good locations and wing it. I think it may be fairly busy as many people couldn't get away during lockdown and others will be in well paid businesses of their own not everybody has been ruined. Some are still running their businesses e.g. builders/electricians/plumbers and so on. Also plenty middle class businesses will still be running even if after a fashion and the more successful end will wish to visit escorts. Some employees will be more at work as of this week also because Boris has deemed this ok 'if they have no possibility of working from home'. Many companies cannot afford to keep staff at home so will expect them to go back in.
A lot of it is doom and gloom we have to be careful we stay quite rational and see the bigger picture.
I am going to naturally insist clients use the antibac gel as soon as they walk in the door but their clothes I will direct them to their own individual black binliner to put their clothes in and take out of again.
Not sure what policy I will implement ref showers. I will put a huge sheet over the bed and change daily including covering the pillows and wash evenings.
No point having a nervous breakdown about it. Just sensible precautions and live our lives.
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Just because someone could work from home, it doesn't mean they're willing to break the law.
I have seen a few people here and on adult work are working even now. I assume it's from home.
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It depends on how worked up you are about breaking the law ref working from home. Not many officials will be policing it as they have better things to do.
As for the hospitality industry I have checked the policies on hygiene from some of the companies that are under google search who advise the hotel industry and not one of them covers having guests in the rooms. So I wouldn't worry about the industry being finished. Far from it. It will just run on as usual.
The issue isn’t hospitality industry policies on hygiene it’s whether the government considers our industry (or the closest things to it for our consideration, I suppose such as massage therapy) safe enough to operate during COVID19. As stated elsewhere some people will be worried about the health risks, whilst others about breaking the law.
It’s going to be a interpretation process for us seeing us prostitution won’t show up on any gov list of jobs that have got the peri peri green light.
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When AW removes the corona notice on our profiles that will help matters also but who knows when that will be.
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I have seen a few people here and on adult work are working even now. I assume it's from home.
Not everybody works from home. Some of us have work flats (which still need the rent paid), and I imagine even the grimmest of the AW prossie flats are doing a pretty brisk trade at the moment. Other people are doing outcalls, as has been mentioned above - I've been asked for a few even though I'm a) not working and b) don't visit private residences. More screening time saved :).
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The issue isn’t hospitality industry policies on hygiene it’s whether the government considers our industry (or the closest things to it for our consideration, I suppose such as massage therapy) safe enough to operate during COVID19. As stated elsewhere some people will be worried about the health risks, whilst others about breaking the law.
Indeed. It's a pity they couldn't have given enough of a fuck about our safety before now to do something about the brothel laws. But obviously everything else happening both here and in the rest of the world has ceased to exist.
It’s going to be a jobs that have got the peri peri green light.
Now I want Nando's :(
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I have seen a few people here and on adult work are working even now. I assume it's from home.
Lots of people have been working from the start of lockdown right up to now. A friend of mine had been working i thought she had stopped but she only told me when she was feeling unwell with Covid 19 symtoms and admitted she had been working she got more poorly and last i heard she was admitted to hospital. I know she went against the rules of not having close contact and working but I do hope she will recover and get through it.
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Well thanks to the bbc we are being demonised for working however thankfully it appears they are trying to show both sides and obtain a quote from a professional body to share our side.
I’m unsure if I’m allowed to post the link but it’s bbc videos region of Birmingham
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Well thanks to the bbc we are being demonised for working however thankfully it appears they are trying to show both sides and obtain a quote from a professional body to share our side.
I’m unsure if I’m allowed to post the link but it’s bbc videos region of Birmingham
I've seen the article, if you mean ECP they aren't quite a professional body - if you do mean a professional body then fair enough!
I dislike the qualification that if a person is working they must be either desperate and or have children.
Also interesting to find guidance for people who have to enter homes on the .gov website including those who have to get close to other people. This pre-dates last night's announcement.
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Yes, the ECP are a campaigning/lobbying group (and have been since the 1970's) :).
No,.links and press URLs may not be posted, since the rules have not changed in the last half hour. There is categorically no need for anybody to be 'unsure' about this, since the rules are pinned at the top of the main board, and it's nobody's fault but their own if they don't read them and have posts removed/wind up with their permissions restricted as a result.
See also posts that start with 'This will probably be removed but...' Clue: Don't post it then.
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See also posts that start with 'This will probably be removed but...' Clue: Don't post it then.
Unfortunately no one in the media is unbiased hence my direction to locate but no direct link. Glad I got this one right!
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I wouldn't say prostitutes in particular are being demonised for working, as much as anyone is who breaks the social distancing laws unnecessarily. Just because there are plenty of people ignoring them, it doesn't mean they're right. If there is any uptick in the number of cases, I think BoJo will be forced to clamp down again.
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Indeed. It's a pity they couldn't have given enough of a fuck about our safety before now to do something about the brothel laws. But obviously everything else happening both here and in the rest of the world has ceased to exist.
Now I want Nando's :(
Yea, that vague traffic light system did nothing to edify me on my immediate social & occupational future, but it did serve to help me lust after my dominatrix safety regulations and casual dining out. Mmm...one day again, whips and spicy chicken :(
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Saw pandemic graffiti outside an Oriental massage parlour for the first time. Maybe a one off.
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Exciting news: I just got an email from my regular physiotherapist and another one from my chiropractor. Both said that their opening day will be June 1st. They emailed me a list of "preventive measures they are taking such as: mask wearing practitioners, plexiglass panel in reception desk, sanitary wipes everywhere and contact-less payment. They're also posting a door sign/policy where patients with respiratory illness or flu won;t be able to book an appointment.
Just throwing this out there ;)
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Saw pandemic graffiti outside an Oriental massage parlour for the first time. Maybe a one off.
Hiya Girl ;)
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Saw pandemic graffiti outside an Oriental massage parlour for the first time. Maybe a one off.
Vile racist ignorance is rarely a one off.
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Hiya Girl ;)
Ana, was this meant to be a PM or something? I can't see how it addresses either what you've quoted or anything else in this thread?
I wouldn't say prostitutes in particular are being demonised for working, as much as anyone is who breaks the social distancing laws unnecessarily.
I do wonder who would define somebody trying to keep themselves and their families from going hungry or losing their homes as 'unnecessary'.
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Ana, was this meant to be a PM or something? I can't see how it addresses either what you've quoted or anything else in this thread?
Apologies, was meant to be a PM, total mishap. Lockdown affecting my brain cells etc.
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Prostitutes are often stigmatised as especially responsible for infections and disease. OK, so this is a little different because its about venereal disease, but the 19th century contagious diseases act allowed police to arbitrarily pick up women suspected of being prostitutes and subject them to forced, humiliating and often injurious 'examinations' to see if they had any diseases. Men suspected of being punters were not of course... nor was anyone else 'suspected' of having sex.
I recall once having a very tiresome 'conversation' with a blockhead punter who, after my protestations against his "prostitutes are a social problem' speech, argued it was necessary for him to pay for sex because he needed sex but I could always 'get another job'. Words, for once, failed me.
Considering we are only a very small number of people, relatively speaking, I've already seen quite a number of articles and news pieces and other general online comments about us and from a few sex workers I've spoken to admitting you are still working - out of need - seems to ignite much more opprobrium than people who break the rules in other more so-called 'understandable' ways, like cheeky visits to friends/lovers, seems to.
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I recall once having a very tiresome 'conversation' with a blockhead punter who, after my protestations against his "prostitutes are a social problem' speech, argued it was necessary for him to pay for sex because he needed sex but I could always 'get another job'.
He doesn't have to pay for sex, he chooses to pay for sex because it's easier than having to go on tinder, adultfinder and going through the all the homework that involves getting free booty. -On topic again- and answering your post regarding prostitutes getting the heat for having sex in these pandemic times oh well.. I'm seeing that Tinder and grinder are burning with people doing civvie hookups but I guess they're not getting any heat from the press because they're unpaid? Like it's ok to meet some random dude for no string sex but if he pays then you;re another "dirty hooker" (observe quotation marks) breaking the rules.
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Just an FYI, government “what you can and can’t do” FAQ out on the gov website.
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The Parliamentary speech is on live now - projected reopening dates for hairdressers, hotels, cinemas and so on has been given as July 4th assuming that the other conditions are met. I didn't see the start, but there was still nothing about when people could visit each other - somebody else might have seen more of it?
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I'm watching it but with one eye. Think we can meet just one person from outside our households. And I think hospitality ( if r number doesn't rise) July 4th like you say Amy but with a new way of working.
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I'm watching it but with one eye. Think we can meet just one person from outside our households. And I think hospitality ( if r number doesn't rise) July 4th like you say Amy but with a new way of working.
We can (from Wednesday, I think) meet one person from outside our household outdoors, but only with keeping 2m away from them. So setting up shop in the bushes at the park is not a viable alternative :D
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Seriously thinking of working just lowkey from home when I can and waiting for the hotel touring dust to settle until spring. All so upsetting to those of us who see this as a career. I certainly do just I do it part time for my sanity and not just for other reasons. That way in theory I can still enjoy it lol. Even though I could do with more money I have always done part time.
Going to get a new private gallery shoot done soon in August so that will help matters.
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From Twitter:
"As I understand the current rules, I'm not allowed to hug my girlfriend because we don't live together, but I am allowed to hire an escort, because that's work that can't be done from home."
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From Twitter:
"As I understand the current rules, I'm not allowed to hug my girlfriend because we don't live together, but I am allowed to hire an escort, because that's work that can't be done from home."
Don;t understand the quote.. I mean unless the escort is a client of him (eg: plumber coming to fix your sink) there's not reason why this guy should be "hiring an escort" (unless it's a webcam session).
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Ana, was this meant to be a PM or something? I can't see how it addresses either what you've quoted or anything else in this thread?
I do wonder who would define somebody trying to keep themselves and their families from going hungry or losing their homes as 'unnecessary'.
I take your point, but loads of people are in the same boat, and just because escorts can do bookings on the sly it doesn't make it right, versus e.g. a driving instructor who couldn't get away with it. If you've paid your tax, there is government help available, for a start.
Anyway, it sounds as if July 4th is looking like independence day for many people, and it's not that far away. Let's keep our fingers crossed there's no setbacks until then!
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I take your point, but loads of people are in the same boat, and just because escorts can do bookings on the sly it doesn't make it right, versus e.g. a driving instructor who couldn't get away with it. If you've paid your tax, there is government help available, for a start.
Kay, I've been religiously paying my taxes as self-employed all these years and so far I haven't received a penny from the government. I did get a teaser email from HMRC telling me "I may or may not" qualify for whatever peanuts the government is planning to throw at me. Thank god for savings... phew!, but then I'm one of those priviledged few with no kids, debts, lack of savings or family members to support. I have no plans of judging those ladies who choose to work.
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Don;t understand the quote.. I mean unless the escort is a client of him (eg: plumber coming to fix your sink) there's not reason why this guy should be "hiring an escort" (unless it's a webcam session).
I suspect it was intended as a joke, but following last night's disaster, not even the 'designated survivor' in the UK Government knows the current rules for England according to his media appearances this morning:
7:52 AM - "No meetings between households"
8:11 AM - "You can meet one person from another household at a time"
8:23 AM - "You can meet multiple people at the same time while socially distancing"
8.46 AM - "You can't meet in a group of three in a park"
MORE - I'm now told that you CANNOT meet in a group of three in a park.
So you CANNOT meet both parents in a park at the same time (even if you're 2m apart).
It's fine to meet one on one in a park though. So you could meet your parents SEPARATELY, as long as you are 2m apart.
8.56 AM - "Yes you can"
Raab appears to have just repeated this on TalkRadio.
9.03 AM - "No you can't"
The government has clarified that people cannot see their parents at the same after Dominic Raab said that they could see both if they stay two metres apart in an interview.
9.10 AM - "OK, fine, you can't"
Clarification from team Raab: people can sit in parks 2m away from one parent, not both at the same time — so No10 policy from last night stands
10.07 AM - "Glad we got that all sorted"
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Kay, I've been religiously paying my taxes as self-employed all these years and so far I haven't received a penny from the government. I did get a teaser email from HMRC telling me "I may or may not" qualify for whatever peanuts the government is planning to throw at me. Thank god for savings... phew!, but then I'm one of those priviledged few with no kids, debts, lack of savings or family members to support. I have no plans of judging those ladies who choose to work.
I got a letter saying I was eligible for the SE grant, and also checked my status on the website, which said I could apply this week. There's also the Bounce Back loans. It's not peanuts for many people!
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I suspect it was intended as a joke, but following last night's disaster, not even the 'designated survivor' in the UK Government knows the current rules for England according to his media appearances this morning:
7:52 AM - "No meetings between households"
8:11 AM - "You can meet one person from another household at a time"
8:23 AM - "You can meet multiple people at the same time while socially distancing"
8.46 AM - "You can't meet in a group of three in a park"
MORE - I'm now told that you CANNOT meet in a group of three in a park.
So you CANNOT meet both parents in a park at the same time (even if you're 2m apart).
It's fine to meet one on one in a park though. So you could meet your parents SEPARATELY, as long as you are 2m apart.
8.56 AM - "Yes you can"
Raab appears to have just repeated this on TalkRadio.
9.03 AM - "No you can't"
The government has clarified that people cannot see their parents at the same after Dominic Raab said that they could see both if they stay two metres apart in an interview.
9.10 AM - "OK, fine, you can't"
Clarification from team Raab: people can sit in parks 2m away from one parent, not both at the same time — so No10 policy from last night stands
10.07 AM - "Glad we got that all sorted"
As I have no plans to meet my clients in the park I wonder what the rule is for home visitors?
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Kay, I've been religiously paying my taxes as self-employed all these years and so far I haven't received a penny from the government. I did get a teaser email from HMRC telling me "I may or may not" qualify for whatever peanuts the government is planning to throw at me. Thank god for savings... phew!, but then I'm one of those priviledged few with no kids, debts, lack of savings or family members to support. I have no plans of judging those ladies who choose to work.
No, me neither. I should get the self employed grant we can apply for later in the week - that will buy me maybe another month. I've been supporting myself (which includes paying bills and council tax on three properties including one which is empty and for sale) without any income whatsoever since mid March and at least half of whatever I get will be gone before I know it. If I get the bounceback loan approved that ought to buy me about another month but after that I'm fucked, and I consider myself to be pretty well sensible and well organised.
If you've paid your tax, there is government help available, for a start.
For some, yes there is. Plenty of people are not eligible for Universal Credit (including me), and the grant is only available for people who fit into a fairly narrow set of criteria. Anybody who wasn't self employed soon enough to have submitted a tax return for the year ended April 2019, or whose self employment made up <50% of their income (whether it does now or not), or who earned even a penny more than £50K (which doesn't go that far depending on living costs, rent/mortgage, debts, how many people they are supporting - the annual rent on my work flat is more than half that) gets precisely fuck all.
The bounceback loan is all very well, but people who are already in debt may not want (or be able) to take on more. An awful lot of people are falling through the cracks, and not just sex workers.
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There aren't any concessions for sex workers going back to work because I think face masks will be required when hairdressers etc return. We fall within our own unique group and I don't think they'll mention orgie and sex worker restrictions being lifted. So I'm thinking if R stays under 1, we can return July 4th?
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Be interesting to see how VS and AW read it. I say if any of you will be struggling, go back when you think.
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There aren't any concessions for sex workers going back to work because I think face masks will be required when hairdressers etc return. We fall within our own unique group and I don't think they'll mention orgie and sex worker restrictions being lifted. So I'm thinking if R stays under 1, we can return July 4th?
I don't think sex workers fall into the hairdressers or nail saloons category, I don't remember reading anything regarding sex workers in that government 50 page PDF (but then I dozed of several times while reading it so If anyone saw something please let me know). I believe the key question (or cathegory which sex workers fall into) would be: when are people allowed to have visitors at home? (or an hotel room for that matter).
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Yes, good point Ana. Didn't hear anything about that so if it was mentioned, let us know please.
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There aren't any concessions for sex workers going back to work because I think face masks will be required when hairdressers etc return. We fall within our own unique group and I don't think they'll mention orgie and sex worker restrictions being lifted. So I'm thinking if R stays under 1, we can return July 4th?
I did heard the Belgium MP of public health that "orgies with more than 3 people" would not be allowed. I'm not joking, this really happened ;D (sorry -off topic- I know).
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Yes, good point Ana. Didn't hear anything about that so if it was mentioned, let us know please.
I'm trying... but it's a 50 page PDF! ???
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Lol, sorry, I meant anyone who heard it on the news. But I don't think it was mentioned.
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The issue isn’t hospitality industry policies on hygiene it’s whether the government considers our industry (or the closest things to it for our consideration, I suppose such as massage therapy) safe enough to operate during COVID19. As stated elsewhere some people will be worried about the health risks, whilst others about breaking the law.
I'm in the vulnerable group (not the extremely vulnerable/shielded) and haven't worked since the end of Feb which is when I went on holiday. I came back and "lockdown" was a week later.
I want to start working again at some point (in the next month or 2 if possible) as I have found it the best career for me. I don't want to have to go back to civvy work which I did all throughout my 20's and was often off work (sick) more than I was in it due to depression, stress and other work and non work related issues! I'm also running out of money and well just want to get back into the swing of things - both mentally and physically but only when it's safe for me to do so - or as safe as I can make it!
I too (and many others I suspect) have been thinking about starting again once hairdressers, beauticians etc... are given the green light however I'm sure that in those circumstances face coverings will be required/needed (and on the whole will be possible unless having a facial ha ha for example) and it's already been said today that face coverings are advised in enclosed spaces where social distancing isn't possible.
So my question is - could the following be a way of working be a possibility (for me at least!)
- Write on my profile/website that no-one should be coming to see me if they are experiencing any symptoms
- Make clear my procedure on my profile, website and on the phone when booking
- Make it a requirement that anyone who visits me has to wear a mask - provided by me
- They arrive, leave money in a specified place - they go in bathroom to shower - they put all clothes and possessions into a bin bag which is disposed of at the end
- I put money away and wash my hands after or wear gloves to do so
- They wash their hands with soap and water and then put on the mask
- Mask is kept on throughout - if they want me to wear one I will
- Kissing and RO are off the agenda - obviously!
- I will keep offering OWO once I've washed it myself
- They wash, dress and put mask in the bin bag their clothes were in which is then thrown away
- I disinfect all areas they have touched afterwards including putting all bedding/bed coverings and anything they have had any contact with in the wash
- I obviously wash hands, shower etc... once they have left
So do you think this is all OTT and would I even get anyone visit ???
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Lol, sorry, I meant anyone who heard it on the news. But I don't think it was mentioned.
I don't think it was either, and I was listening out for it.
One thing we can do is submit it as a question to be asked at the government press conference. I've just done so, but the more people who do the better - it's not as if we're going to be the only people who want to visit somebody or be visited?
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Lol, sorry, I meant anyone who heard it on the news. But I don't think it was mentioned.
Nope as far as I know (but again: I might be wrong and someone with more patience than me has gone through the PDF please let us know). Also: If your business model relies on international clients do keep in mind that travellers into the UK are going to be put into a 2 week quarantine for most of the summer (that's what Boris said yesterday), which means: say goodbye to your international clients this summer. Good news is that brits are not going on holidays this summer and will have to stay in the UK (which is good for business).
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I don't think it was either, and I was listening out for it.
One thing we can do is submit it as a question to be asked at the government press conference. I've just done so, but the more people who do the better - it's not as if we're going to be the only people who want to visit somebody or be visited?
That's a great idea, however.. I wouldn't angle it through the "sex work" stance as it will start the jungle drums beating (your get my drift). I would angle it through the: "when are people going to be allowed to have visitors in their private home". However I decide to spend time with those visitors is my private life and nobodys business.
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That's a great idea, however.. I wouldn't angle it through the "sex work" stance as it will start the jungle drums beating (your get my drift). I would angle it through the: "when are people going to be allowed to have visitors in their private home". However I decide to spend time with those visitors is my private life and nobodys business.
Well amazingly I did think of that - the sex work isn't relevant to what we want to know, after all.
I also suspect the more concise and straightforward the questions are, the better the likelihood of them being chosen. Plenty of people will want to visit family members they haven't seen for weeks, so fingers crossed :).
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I'm thinking many people in the UK will start to realise the glaring omission today. I hope anyway. If hospitality might be opening July 4th I don't know why they left the visiting of people's houses out. I didn't even think about that until Ana mentioned it actually.
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The bbc have just posted a video on YouTube about sex workers still meeting through lockdown they spoke to a lady on the phone and were showing new feedbacks on aw from past few weeks x
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Well amazingly I did think of that - the sex work isn't relevant to what we want to know, after all.
I also suspect the more concise and straightforward the questions are, the better the likelihood of them being chosen. Plenty of people will want to visit family members they haven't seen for weeks, so fingers crossed :).
yes, people want to visit friends, lovers and family members soon (we just happen to have more "lovers" than the usual)), so the question should be kept simple and angled through the civvie route.
Also do keep in mind that over 70's, and the inmune compromised (such as diabetics and ex cancer patients) are going to be told to stay at home for the next months (that's what I read in the PDF). So this summer you can say good bye to your senior clients, international trevellers and those who lost their jobs.
the herd is thinning ???
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yes, people want to visit friends, lovers and family members soon (we just happen to have more "lovers" than the usual)), so the question should be kept simple and angled through the civvie route.
Also do keep in mind that over 70's, and the inmune compromised (such as diabetics and ex cancer patients) are going to be told to stay at home for the next months (that's what I read in the PDF). So this summer you can say good bye to your senior clients, international trevellers and those who lost their jobs.
the herd is thinning ???
The over 70s are being advised to be careful whilst observing the rules which apply to everyone else, it's only the extremely high risk (underlying health conditions) who have to totally shield themselves. I've been watching the 70s thing closely, often gets mixed up - Mr Raab was grilled on this specifically in a R4 special last week.
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The bbc have just posted a video on YouTube about sex workers still meeting through lockdown they spoke to a lady on the phone and were showing new feedbacks on aw from past few weeks x
Sex workers as usual being stigmatized. I would love to see on the bbc how everyone on Tinder and grinder are busy meeting for sex hook-ups. I'm not making this up, my gay neighbour is getting laid every day thanks to grinder. I went myself into Tinder last week and got like 5 proposals for a sex hook up. I deleted the app because I can't bother, but hookers who have to support their children are the "evil ones"? C'mon. My neighbour is a beauty therapist and she's been receving clients to do their nails all this time, but because there's no sex involved this is not considered news worthy by the bbc.
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Seeing as I would like to get back to work as soon as is possible I was starting to think of it as, I'll go back to work when either A. people are allowed visitors to their house (would love any info on this as soon as it is clarified), or B. when massage therapists, nail techs etc (especially seeing as I am registered as one etc) are allowed back to work. Whichever comes first. That is just my own personal approach to this at the mo. I'll then take measures such as plenty of antibac, shower on arrival, etc but these things are more to relax the clients than because I think they'll make much difference to risk of transmission. I'll ask clients to stay away if they or anyone they live with is in a high risk group (then its down to them and their own conscience if they want to be honest or not).
Weird times.
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Sex workers as usual being stigmatized. I would love to see on the bbc how everyone on Tinder and grinder are busy meeting for sex hook-ups. I'm not making this up, my gay neighbour is getting laid every day thanks to grinder. I went myself into Tinder last week and got like 5 proposals for a sex hook up. I deleted the app because I can't bother, but hookers who have to support their children are the "evil ones"?
Yea I deleted my Tinder account because tired of telling guys on there there was no way I'd meet up at the mo. Like, dude, if I'm going to meet up for some bone, I'm going to be charging for it ::)
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How do we also submit the question ? Is there a site
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I just read on The Independent website that the government are considering allowing two households to 'mix' from sometime in June in answer to whether people can have visitors to their house, not just meet outside in the park or whatever. Obviously that's not good for us and nothing doing about more rolled out visiting.
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How do we also submit the question ? Is there a site
Yes, it's on the .gov website - I just Googled 'ask government questions' and it was the top result :)
Can we also try to steer clear of press speculation and stick to credible stuff that's direct from the proper sources, please? Even if there isn't any.
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I take your point, but loads of people are in the same boat, and just because escorts can do bookings on the sly it doesn't make it right, versus e.g. a driving instructor who couldn't get away with it. If you've paid your tax, there is government help available, for a start.
Anyway, it sounds as if July 4th is looking like independence day for many people, and it's not that far away. Let's keep our fingers crossed there's no setbacks until then!
I don't think we will be "allowed" to get within 2 metres of people who we don't live in the same house as, even in July. They keep reiterating that all the distancing rules still apply and will apply, even when all businesses are open.
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The bbc have just posted a video on YouTube about sex workers still meeting through lockdown they spoke to a lady on the phone and were showing new feedbacks on aw from past few weeks x
The feedback must have been from bookings prior to the beginning of April, cos AW removed the booking form - and the only way to leave escort feedback - back then.
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Sent in the question too. Very easy. Hopefully they’ll get lots of people asking the same or similar seeing as though it was something they did completely skip over. Along with lots of other things.
If hotels are closed until July. (Which... they are). I’ll be advertising as outcalls. But that thought fills me with dread on its own. Haven’t done a house call in a while.
I’ve heard that apartments are also accepting mainly key workers or asking lots more questions as to why you’re booking.
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I am assuming we can get back to work once people like tattoo artists and masseurs can, as these are all things that cannot be done from a distance and involve very close contact for long periods of time. I will work again once they do. This has to end at some point, otherwise half the country will go bust, and no tax to run the NHS. Not everyone can get help under the various schemes the government has.
I am now inundated with my regular clients wanting to see me, but saying no at the moment, I am hoping for July now, and dont expect to work until then, hopefully I am wrong.
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I am assuming we can get back to work once people like tattoo artists and masseurs can, as these are all things that cannot be done from a distance and involve very close contact for long periods of time. I will work again once they do. This has to end at some point, otherwise half the country will go bust, and no tax to run the NHS. Not everyone can get help under the various schemes the government has.
I am now inundated with my regular clients wanting to see me, but saying no at the moment, I am hoping for July now, and dont expect to work until then, hopefully I am wrong.
I'm carefully reading (again, but this time slowly) the 50 pages government PDF and reading that "Retail and non essential businesses will re-open at the begining of phase 2". So far the government has said that if the rate of infection stays within "normal parameters" phase two will commence June 1st. As I posted above my physio and my chiropractor sent me emails stating their clinics would re-open again June 1st (pretty much in agreement with government policy). However...UKdomme if for whatever reason opening July 4th makes you feel safer, go for it. It's your health and your business, but officially your "non essential business" could be open by June 1st.
The PDF also states that restaurants, hospitality and hotels will be open it phase 3 (which is sometime in July)
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The announcement earlier made it clear that any businesses in sectors like personal care and hospitality (where keeping 2m away from people would be difficult or impossible) would not be reopening before July 4th, as UKDomme has said above and as I (amongst other people) posted earlier on. She hasn't just pulled a date out of thin air.
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The announcement earlier made it clear that any businesses in sectors like personal care and hospitality (where keeping 2m away from people would be difficult or impossible) would not be reopening before July 4th, as UKDomme has said above and as I (amongst other people) posted earlier on. She hasn't just pulled a date out of thin air.
Amy, I'm going through the government PDF as I type this, I'm not making it up (govnmt PDF page 21), besides, why would two big known physio and chiro clinics in central London email their clients regarding their June 1st opening?
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I neither know nor care what your chiropractor is doing and why. I do have the relevant report information, though.
Phase Two (estimated to start no earlier than June 1st): Sectors such as “hospitality and personal care are not able to reopen at this point because the risk of transmission in these environments is higher,”
Phase Three (estimated to start no earlier than July 4th) "Personal care” businesses – aka beauty salons and hairdressers – could potentially reopen on July 4, subject to the infection level being low enough. They will also have to meet the Covid-19 Secure guidelines.
Also, “Some venues which are, by design, crowded and where it may prove difficult to enact distancing may still not be able to reopen safely at this point, or may be able to open safely only in part,”
There is nothing whatsoever about any of that that suggest we'll be legally allowed to work from the first of June. How much that matters to each individual is up to them, obviously.
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I wonder when will AW be reinstating reverse bookings..
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I wonder if the SE support will be offered for the following 3 months.
It's a long time.
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I neither know nor care what your chiropractor is doing and why. I do have the relevant report information, though.
Phase Two (estimated to start no earlier than June 1st): Sectors such as “hospitality and personal care are not able to reopen at this point because the risk of transmission in these environments is higher,”
Phase Three (estimated to start no earlier than July 4th) "Personal care” businesses – aka beauty salons and hairdressers – could potentially reopen on July 4, subject to the infection level being low enough. They will also have to meet the Covid-19 Secure guidelines.
Also, “Some venues which are, by design, crowded and where it may prove difficult to enact distancing may still not be able to reopen safely at this point, or may be able to open safely only in part,”
There is nothing whatsoever about any of that that suggest we'll be legally allowed to work from the first of June. How much that matters to each individual is up to them, obviously.
Just finished reading the PDF. You may be right: hospitality and personal care will not be opened till phase 3 (which might happen if all goes well July 4th). Is my chiro/physio not considered "personal care" but more like "medical care"? (and more important than hairdressers) hence the reason they get to open June 1st? Truth is I have no idea, but fact is they ARE opening.
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Ana it'll be interesting to see if they do open or whether they realise they might be a little ahead of themselves. I dunno, that is a tad strange and doesn't fit in with the guidelines. 🤔
I looked at the YouTube clip someone mentioned here and wow. I hate those "gotcha" questions. Thought she handled it well but would have loved it if she'd asked the little runt reporter about Tinder etc and watch him stutter and stammer, doubt woulda posted that online then. We should maybe all have a defence along those lines ready to go if happens to any sex workers out there reading this.
I've never used it and didn't realise it was mostly free sex.
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Amy, I'm going through the government PDF as I type this, I'm not making it up (govnmt PDF page 21), besides, why would two big known physio and chiro clinics in central London email their clients regarding their June 1st opening?
Physio and chiropractor are considered similar to a doctor there has been a few already open through lockdown but only for emergencies patients in very bad pain. My uncle visited one a little while back when in bad pain and they were only seeing patient's that needed urgent treatment probably like dentists only seeing emergency cases in lockdown. So i could imagine more re opening for emergencies.
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Looks like I will have I reassess things in June start working then maybe. I might get some face masks in preparation.
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I really can't see face masks being something clients will wish to wear in a booking. Although a few may arrive wearing one.
Time will tell.
Handgel as soon as they arrive from 4th July and then insisting on a shower plus putting their clothing in a black binliner will help. I will throw away each binliner after individual use. Best start stocking up slowly now on those.
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Yes that is true I ordered some hand gel
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I think in relation to certain areas reopening the 1st June this would be inline with the NHS writing to all trusts and encouraging them to restart elective surgery again. There is a concern to get things started again and for the nhs trusts to start treating people again. So for example a knee op is being encouraged to go ahead now.
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Chiropractors are quite medical really it does take a good few years of training and they fund themselves. They take X rays also.
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Chiropractors are quite medical really it does take a good few years of training and they fund themselves. They take X rays also.
On the other hand dentists are not allowed to open till maybe August or September (only a few are open just for emergencies), but it's ok for hairdressers and pubs to open July? Totally baffled.
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Very strange; my colonic hydrotherapist is still open as usual. Thank fuck.
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On the other hand dentists are not allowed to open till maybe August or September (only a few are open just for emergencies), but it's ok for hairdressers and pubs to open July? Totally baffled.
Nobody has said it's 'OK' for hairdressers and pubs to reopen in July. They MAY be able to open if they can adhere to the distancing rules and apply other safety precautions (masks for hairdressers and so on) where this isn't possible. And you're 'baffled' because somebody whose job is literally to look closely into and poke about some random's wide open uncovered mouth might be at bit cautious about it? Seriously?
Time - again - to get back to sex work, I think. This is like having my brain rolled in broken glass.
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Just finished reading the PDF. You may be right: hospitality and personal care will not be opened till phase 3 (which might happen if all goes well July 4th). Is my chiro/physio not considered "personal care" but more like "medical care"? (and more important than hairdressers) hence the reason they get to open June 1st? Truth is I have no idea, but fact is they ARE opening.
Just an update on this having studied the guidance this morning regards businesses which must be closed, it would seem Chiros, Chiropody, Dentist, Mental Health services are 'exemptions' to the 'must close premises' list of businesses.
I've signed up for the daily updates on updates to the guidelines, quite useful then you know whether it's worth having a look if you have already looked.
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And you think that sex workers should or will be be added to this list?
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And you think that sex workers should or will be be added to this list?
No.
Although I massage parlours are on there alongside spas, however I would guess that refers to actual massage rather than brothel 'massage'.
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And you think that sex workers should or will be be added to this list?
Well if dentists were open for non-emergencies, I'd say yes. Why so abrupt?
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Well if dentists were open for non-emergencies, I'd say yes. Why so abrupt?
Definitely NO :FF :FF
It will only be safe and proper to go back to meeting strangers for paid sexual services when hospitality opens up with no social distancing
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If massage parlours (as in legal healthy spa ones) are given the go ahead to open, I personally would see that as legitimate for me to go back to work, especially if I decide to work for a while just offering massage with relief. With dentists however, they have a much stronger claim on 'essential work' than we do. This is all a balance between being able to claim your work is either safe and/or essential. Our work is, unfortunately, not strong on either claim.
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And you think that sex workers should or will be be added to this list?
I believe that with all present problems the government has in it's hands right now hookers (pardon my french) are their last worry. You will not see any politician committing career suicide by publicly stating "ok, hookers can go back to work now".. the industry is going to have to play it by ear when it comes to going back to work.
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Well if dentists were open for non-emergencies, I'd say yes. Why so abrupt?
I'd assume because my post above is neither invisible nor unclear, and because Mirror is not normally unusually hard-of-understanding or a troll? Therefore, the fair thing to do in view of the otherwise inexplicable post above is to try and find some reason why it might actually be on topic in a not immediately obvious way but it no longer matters and the subject is closed.
Thankfully things seem to gradually be wandering back, and now maybe the people who have posted immediate concerns because they have nowhere to work with hotels closed, or because they're medically vulnerable but need to work and are trying to get feedback on ways to minimise their risk will get some responses and the people who want to crack on about vague general stuff that could be posted about anywhere will respect this and move on.
I've had a far larger slew of stupidmails on AW over the weekend and yesterday, but accompanied by a couple of reasonably sensible ones too so it would appear that punters are making their plans to get back into things in next few weeks too.
hookers (pardon my french) are their last worry.
I'm pretty sure 'hookers' in this context is American rather than French, although I quite agree that we'll be conveniently forgotten, as always :)
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When people allowed to visit family and friends then I suppose can receive incall or do outcall, also I think then adultwork will remove the alert notice on site.
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I’ve also had lots more contact since Sunday which I assume is at least in part due to the slight softening of the regime meaning punters have more opportunities for excuses as to why they can ‘nip out’.
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When people allowed to visit family and friends then I suppose can receive incall or do outcall, also I think then adultwork will remove the alert notice on site.
I think so too. With a bit of luck the question of visiting individuals in their homes will come up in the press conference or elsewhere soon, since it still seems to be the only thing a lot of people want to know that has had no mention whatsoever :).
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I'm just watching the film Contagion and have decided I'm going to have a bowl of soapy water and wash their willie's myself, plus I'm going to get disposable masks. We both wear them but they can come off for oral then go back on again. I know this may sound ridiculous but it's the exchange of breath I worry about so am trying to lessen the fumes.
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We both wear them but they can come off for oral then go back on again.
Better make the oral brief as possible then ;D ;D ;D
I worry most about supermarkets and lifts, the volume of people is what gets me.
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So I added my phone number to my Adultwork for the first time in 2 months today and the Phine has not stopped blowing. It amazes me they still can’t read that I’m not back till July and it’s plastered all over. I think it will be quite busy for us ladies to start with and then who knows after that.
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So I added my phone number to my Adultwork for the first time in 2 months today and the Phine has not stopped blowing. It amazes me they still can’t read that I’m not back till July and it’s plastered all over. I think it will be quite busy for us ladies to start with and then who knows after that.
Have you got a call blocker that sends a text autoreply Blondie? I hate answering mine at the best of times and I'm not looking forward to it, but I plan to put my number on a couple of days before I start back with the blocker on to weed out the tosspots, and that way the genuine/non-thick ones will ring back when the message says or send a proper text. I thought it might be a gentler way back in :).
I worry most about supermarkets and lifts,
If you're going to do a booking in a supermarket, try and find a Waitrose. They'll likely be too polite to throw you out.
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Have you got a call blocker that sends a text autoreply Blondie? I hate answering mine at the best of times and I'm not looking forward to it, but I plan to put my number on a couple of days before I start back with the blocker on to weed out the tosspots, and that way the genuine/non-thick ones will ring back when the message says or send a proper text. I thought it might be a gentler way back in :).
If you're going to do a booking in a supermarket, try and find a Waitrose. They'll likely be too polite to throw you out.
Good plan re call blocked. But I also like to screen all these numbers so I’ll go through check on here and client eye so when they call back I’m a few weeks time I already know which ones I’m
Not seeing.
It has made me feel super positive about work knowing that the clients are there. I was dreading coming back and it being a complete disaster. Thanks for the advice will take a look today.
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Have you got a call blocker that sends a text autoreply Blondie?
I need that! But couldn't find any. Does anyone have name if the app?
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I'm planning to come back when hotels will open. Do you think that hotels will be more strict? In wandering if I should plan my tour in advance or wait until they will open and see how it works hmm
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I'm planning to come back when hotels will open. Do you think that hotels will be more strict? In wandering if I should plan my tour in advance or wait until they will open and see how it works hmm
My guess is that there'll be less guests at first, but also wonder if they'll just keep away from guests and visitors.
Just have to see.
Also the coffee shops, restuarants may be practicing social distancing or at least spreading people out - but once again that isn't necessarily a bad thing in many ways.
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Do you think we will be busier at first when restrictions lift enough to work again? I know I'll be getting my nails done, hair and Botox asap. I imagine others will.
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Do you think we will be busier at first when restrictions lift enough to work again? I know I'll be getting my nails done, hair and Botox asap. I imagine others will.
I don't think so, for many reasons. 1) fear of catching the virus is going to last for a while (maybe till some sort of vaccine or miracle medication comes out) 2) A lot of people have lost their jobs or the recession has indirectly affected them, so everyone is going to be careful with the spending. 3) Borders: travelling is going to involve 2 week quaratine in many countries (UK included) and that's going to stop travellers 4) people are going to be stuck working at home or with the kids which involves less freedom to visit their favourite prossie. I predict a very slow step by step "back to normal". We might start very low volume, then in a couple of months get a couple more clients a week etc.. I don;t see our business going 100% back to were it was before lockdown at least till next christmas. Then of course all depends on your business model, some ladies work mainly with "travelling types", others with locals clients, other ladies tour internationally etc.. Not all business models will follow the same "going back to normal" path.
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I wondered has anyone heard when hotels are opening? I read it will be the start of July provided there's no further outbreak and other conditions...but 1) why does booking.com seem to allow you to go to booking page 2) what risk is there in relation to those hotels with no restaurants or bars attached?
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Save your cash re. the Botox...
I'd say there's maybe 10–20 percent of punters ready, willing, able and gagging for a shag, but then others will follow more slowly the reasons ana30 cites.
Men are more at risk, and quite a few punters are over 60 and/or have elderly relatives that they (hopefully) wouldn't want to put at risk. So, I think for a few months it's mostly going to be the younger and single ones punting.
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I wondered has anyone heard when hotels are opening? I read it will be the start of July provided there's no further outbreak and other conditions...but 1) why does booking.com seem to allow you to go to booking page 2) what risk is there in relation to those hotels with no restaurants or bars attached?
I emailed a certain hotel in Heathrow that was available to book via booking.com.
I asked them if they would be open in June and they said yes they would be. So i went ahead and booked the room.
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Some hotels have their sites open from e.g. mid July so I imagine they are seeing how busy they are for overnight bookings to decide whether or not to open. It is the odd day room I wouldn't object to over August. I imagine we will know nearer the time.
Either way 4th July onwards many people will be more busy. Assuming they have a venue.
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I emailed a certain hotel in Heathrow that was available to book via booking.com.
I asked them if they would be open in June and they said yes they would be. So i went ahead and booked the room.
If you're near enough I'd recommend going over a day or two before to scope it out and check visitors can walk in and around freely, especially since it's likely to be quiet and there won't be the groups milling around in the lobby and so on for cover. At least that way you can cancel if needs be :).
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I think 4th July onwards will be when I will test the waters that month and book a serviced apartment for a few days. It feels that out and about people are definitely up to resume life. My facial treatment is booked in for mid July so that's the month things for us WGs to see how things progress. I just feel I'll be totally out of the swing of things by the time I start again lol
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Ref tours you need to be extra careful that the staff won't be invigilating all who enter the premises. Clients will be expected to wear masks before entering the building. Think of a business where you can sit in the room six feet apart or a viable business where men can legitimally meet you in your room and stick to that cover story. There will naturally be way less custom in the hotel chains owing to the economic deep recession so staff may be more on the alert of unknown visitors coming and going. You will need to wear a mask when in communal areas also.
Many hotels will go out of business.
Not intending to be so bleak. Just so you are aware.
I am going to just work quietly at home term time for another year and do tours from earliest next spring but if not definitely from June 2021. I am giving the hotel industry a year to let the dust settle and clients to get used to wearing masks/social distancing limits etc.
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Some hotels have their sites open from e.g. mid July so I imagine they are seeing how busy they are for overnight bookings to decide whether or not to open. It is the odd day room I wouldn't object to over August. I imagine we will know nearer the time.
Either way 4th July onwards many people will be more busy. Assuming they have a venue.
I believe hotels are waiting for airlines to re-open etc... If Boris decides to put everyone who comes into the UK in quarantine the travel industry is not going to happen and hotels will be empty. The travel quarantine is crucial for our business. Unless of course your located in a place with no travellers and your clients are 100% locals.
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I believe hotels are waiting for airlines to re-open etc... If Boris decides to put everyone who comes into the UK in quarantine the travel industry is not going to happen and hotels will be empty. The travel quarantine is crucial for our business. Unless of course your located in a place with no travellers and your clients are 100% locals.
Instruction on the .gov.uk website is that hotels must close apart from providing accomodation to those who have nowhere else to stay and /or essential workers. Also at the moment general population are not allowed any overnight stays away from home. From that I would guess hotels are awaiting permission to open, and permission for guest to be away from home. The ones near airports also might assess the level of business required to make opening viable, others may be ok with domestic trade.
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Instruction on the .gov.uk website is that hotels must close apart from providing accomodation to those who have nowhere else to stay and /or essential workers. Also at the moment general population are not allowed any overnight stays away from home. From that I would guess hotels are awaiting permission to open, and permission for guest to be away from home. The ones near airports also might assess the level of business required to make opening viable, others may be ok with domestic trade.
Sure, however... if hotels are given the "go" to open but there's no flights, or there are but everyone entering the UK needs to do a two week quarantine said hotels are going to be very empty >:(
As I type this the EU is quickly working on a plan to boost/save the tourism industry and they have agreeded to open EU internal borders, open flights and hotels after the first of June, problem is that UK presently out of the EU and doing their "own thing" is not part of said European plan. I really don;t know when things are going to start "happening" here and a fluid traffic of people will be allowed to the UK. It feels very isolating in a way.
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I've been bumping into people I identify as overseas tourists every day since lockdown...couples and families. I've been scanning AirB&B which has been merrily advertising properties as ideal 'isolation' rents. So I think AB&B's and the airlines enabled a population of unchecked visitors. No hotels are open here just a couple supermarkets and one or two takeaways.
If you do a bit of digging it seems that flights of holidaymakers have been arriving in UK without tests or quarantine. Not something I expected given we've been obediently locking ourselves up for months. We were told in a recent gov announcement passengers may be asked to quarantine for 14 days. I don't think it's a done deal yet. And I note that they've gone pretty quiet about that since it was mentioned.
Given that tourists have been trolling around all along , international clients may not necessarily vanish.
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I believe they will only impose a 2 week quarantine after arrival from abroad for a very small period of time only. Just to control and further reduce the virus.
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If you're near enough I'd recommend going over a day or two before to scope it out and check visitors can walk in and around freely, especially since it's likely to be quiet and there won't be the groups milling around in the lobby and so on for cover. At least that way you can cancel if needs be :).
Scrap that theyve just cancelled my booking >:(
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There’s a couple of hotels in Liverpool still taking bookings, one I normally work from has now stepped up security slightly, closing the main door at 10pm, taking £100 deposit and asking for identification, other than that nothing much has changed, clients was still up until 10pm able to enter/exit the hotel with no problems. An apartment block I used this week has no security what’s so ever, no deposits taking or questions asked. I suppose different places have different ways of doing things. I’ve only started working again the last two weeks, working once a week, 1st day was awful but I didn’t show my number till the day of working but this week was a lot better after showing my number a few days beforehand.
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I was sent the following message from a massage directory:
The government has said these businesses can open from today:
Dental services, opticians, audiology services, chiropody, chiropractors, osteopaths and other medical or health services, including services relating to mental health
It has also said that massage parlors cannot open yet.
An osteopath is a hands-on treatment the same as massage which makes a good case for massage being ok but not in a parlor
If we can find out any more information we will keep you informed
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I was sent the following message from a massage directory:
The government has said these businesses can open from today:
Dental services, opticians, audiology services, chiropody, chiropractors, osteopaths and other medical or health services, including services relating to mental health
It has also said that massage parlors cannot open yet.
An osteopath is a hands-on treatment the same as massage which makes a good case for massage being ok but not in a parlor
If we can find out any more information we will keep you informed
I can’t see this information on any UK goverment site?
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I can’t see this information on any UK goverment site?
I doubt that it is - if nothing else a UK government site would know how to spell 'parlours' and it's nothing but speculation and fluff anyway. I don't doubt that the 'massage directory' has seen their advertising revenue go through the floor and is panicking about it, though.
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I'm back at work now. They reckon 1 in 400 of the UK population has Covid-19. The R is below 1, there are plenty of hospital beds - and if Cummings can break lockdown rules then I'll take my chances. But even if he hadn't, I would have returned.
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I'm back at work now. They reckon 1 in 400 of the UK population has Covid-19. The R is below 1, there are plenty of hospital beds - and if Cummings can break lockdown rules then I'll take my chances. But even if he hadn't, I would have returned.
I am just back at work as well. I couldn’t afford to be off any longer than the two months. As I’m not entitled to the self-employment help due to working in a limited capacity the past couple of years meaning I didn’t have much profits. This also used up my savings
I am only working enough to cover costs. I’ve taken off some services and put extra precautions in place. Obviously I know there is still some risk but I don’t have much choice.
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The Last Time may I ask what services did u remove? If u don't mind sharing.
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I can’t see this information on any UK goverment site?
Not certain exactly what guidance the directory I refer to is drawing from, but the UK guidance issued on 13 May included the list referred to as exceptions to the general rule that general retail should remain closed - google w.gov.uk/government/publications/further-businesses-and-premises-to-close/further-businesses-and-premises-to-close-guidance
So the directory was quite correct, albeit slightly misleading when it says "can open from today" - the change in guidance was in the first relaxation of the lockdown restrictions almost two weeks ago. The directory was also correct in saying that "massage parlours" were specifically excluded from the relaxation in restrictions, but there is no explanation for the distinction between hands-on osteopathy services and hands-on massage services.
I'm not a lawyer but I think there is a good case, as the directory says, for interpreting the guidance in favour of me being able to offer massages once again, though obviously I would also need to demonstrate what practical precautions I had taken to minimise the risk of infection to myself and my clients.
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The Last Time may I ask what services did u remove? If u don't mind sharing.
No problem - I’m not offering kissing or RO currently. Some of friends are also doing similar - some have taken off OWO also.
I’m doing this in conjunction with insisting on showers, and increasing hygiene measures.
I know that some think that removing kissing won’t make much difference, but I used to work in Public Health and it does increase the risk of catching any virus.
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Thanks for that. I may keep my full services on after all as I know I will have v limited availability so my chances of catching anything are extremely low.
I will definitely insist on using handgel upon arrival and have 4 bottles dotted about the house. Also a shower prior to beginning the meet. These are must dos no matter what.
They say 1 in 400 people has the virus don't they. So we have 1 in 400 chance of catching it. And I don't even see 400 clients in 3 years .....! As I curently have very limited availability and am lucky enough to enjoy v low overheads.
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If I return, I will definitely be removing kissing and owo until next year at the earliest. I know it's probably silly, because I'll still be getting close to people, but it's all we can really do, isn't it? :'(
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I’d like to just offer massage and hand relief for a little while and have clients and myself wear a mask! I don’t know how much business I’d get doing all that though!
I mean, I’d still offer full service if we both wore a mask too.. maybe I could pretend it’s part of a kink/role play thing.. haha
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Thanks for that. I may keep my full services on after all as I know I will have v limited availability so my chances of catching anything are extremely low.
I will definitely insist on using handgel upon arrival and have 4 bottles dotted about the house. Also a shower prior to beginning the meet. These are must dos no matter what.
They say 1 in 400 people has the virus don't they. So we have 1 in 400 chance of catching it. And I don't even see 400 clients in 3 years .....! As I curently have very limited availability and am lucky enough to enjoy v low overheads.
I have no idea. Who are "they" ?
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I have no idea. Who are "they" ?
I don't know either, but my mother seems to get a lot of her information from 'them' too ;D.
You do realise that a '1 in 400' figure doesn't mean that (assuming you haven't had it already) you can see 399 and then stop, LB? It could be the first person through the door or none of them at all - that's not how it works.
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Anyone have any information about hotel's like [hotel names removed - don't post these here] etc? I mean those in chains?
Will they increase precautions like early closing a door or checking guests? I'm wandering if all of those will still be workable like before the virus...
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Anyone have any information about hotel's like [hotel names removed - don't post these here] etc? I mean those in chains?
Will they increase precautions like early closing a door or checking guests? I'm wandering if all of those will still be workable like before the virus...
I'm assuming they will, however... a bit empty for a while. It's going to take months for all tourism to resume back to normal with all these 2 weeks quarantines for travellers placed in so many countries (UK included), so any traffic of clients to your room will be more "noticeable". Besides that inconvenence stuff like glass/plastic pannels on reception, maybe bar area will be closed, more cleaning going on (aka: more nosey cleaning staff around) etc.. In my opinion they will be workable but WG's may have to be a bit more cautious than before for a while. I doubt they will check guests (but then I might be wrong).
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Sorry for asking but actual I am not staying in the UK: Is sexwork restricted in the UK by any act or regulation and could be fined right now? Or is it up to everbody's own choice or decision? Or just impossible because of social control?
In Germany sexwork in most areas is completely restricted. People will be fined up to 5K EUR if they get caught by the authorities (they use fake punter to catch sexworker). In some areas the government has just mentioned brothels but did not wrote escort services in the corona regulations. But in general everything is prohibited. Since a few days massage parlours which are official offering non sexual services are open again. But it is difficult to do so. It needs some legal help by lawyers to open the doors again. This power and enthusiasm most sex worker don't have.
Live is becoming on every day more and more normal again as even beauty shops and restaurants did re-open. But sex worker will be at the very very last end of the liberation guidelines which do not even exist.
Some German politicians try to use the corona climate for nordic model campaigns.
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Sorry for asking but actual I am not staying in the UK. Is sexwork restricted right now in the UK by any act or regulation and could be fined? Or is it up to everbody's decision? In Germany sexwork in most areas is completely restricted. People will be fined up to 5K EUR if they get caught by the authorities (they use fake punter to catch sexworker). In some areas the government has just menstioned brothels but e.g. they did not wrote escort services in the corona regulations. But in general everything is prohibited. Since a few days massage parlours which are official offering non sexual services are open again. But it is difficult to do so. It needs some legal help by lawyers to open the doors again. This power and enthusiasm most sex worker don't have.
Live is becoming on every day more and more normal again as even beauty shops and restaurants did re-open. But sex worker will be at the very very last end of the liberation guidelines which do not even exist.
Some German politicians try to use the corona climate for nordic model campaigns.
Unlike germany brothels/saunas are ilegal here so there's no re-opening them ( they do exist though but are well hidden and most will get eventually raided). Massage places will open with nail saloons and hairdressers (not sure when but they're talking in two weeks time around 15 June?), however they will need to adhere to a lot of safety and higiene rules just like any other business. As per the sex trade openly operating on the internet is mostly indie. There's no governments talks regarding when escorts will be able to operate (but that's normal as no politician worth his salts would commit career suicide by telling hookers to go back to work). As per COVID business rules we don;t exist. End of. Women in the trade are playing mostly by ear, waiting for massage places to open, but everyone is trying to follow guidelines (even if they don;t exist for them). Police are certainly not going as undercover clients to escorts apartments and fining them (we don;t have enough police resources to do that anyway). I certainly wouldn;t reccomend you to come to the UK as there's no clients, and things are going to take a few months to get back to normal (and if). So you may be able to work without getting arrested here but you won;t have any clients ??? If I were you i would look into touring other countries with more relaxed lockdown rules where the economy is not on shambles. Maybe Switzerland, netherlands?
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@Ana: Thank you!
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Sorry for asking but actual I am not staying in the UK: Is sexwork restricted in the UK by any act or regulation and could be fined right now? Or is it up to everbody's own choice or decision? Or just impossible because of social control?
In Germany sexwork in most areas is completely restricted. People will be fined up to 5K EUR if they get caught by the authorities (they use fake punter to catch sexworker). In some areas the government has just mentioned brothels but did not wrote escort services in the corona regulations. But in general everything is prohibited. Since a few days massage parlours which are official offering non sexual services are open again. But it is difficult to do so. It needs some legal help by lawyers to open the doors again. This power and enthusiasm most sex worker don't have.
Live is becoming on every day more and more normal again as even beauty shops and restaurants did re-open. But sex worker will be at the very very last end of the liberation guidelines which do not even exist.
Some German politicians try to use the corona climate for nordic model campaigns.
As the other person said it's totally unregulated here so we don't exist i.e the government completely ignores us and has no data on our numbers or activities.
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Ref tours you need to be extra careful that the staff won't be invigilating all who enter the premises. Clients will be expected to wear masks before entering the building. Think of a business where you can sit in the room six feet apart or a viable business where men can legitimally meet you in your room and stick to that cover story. There will naturally be way less custom in the hotel chains owing to the economic deep recession so staff may be more on the alert of unknown visitors coming and going. You will need to wear a mask when in communal areas also.
Many hotels will go out of business.
Not intending to be so bleak. Just so you are aware.
I am going to just work quietly at home term time for another year and do tours from earliest next spring but if not definitely from June 2021. I am giving the hotel industry a year to let the dust settle and clients to get used to wearing masks/social distancing limits etc.
It's interesting because I noticed two budget hotel chains were massively expanding recently. Also a certain 24 hour gym, they're screwed.
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would you say that things are slowly picking up? today there's 1600+ girls showing as available today on aw whereas last time i checked few weeks ago was just below 1000.
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Although I haven't returned to work yet, a few of my friends have and plan to work throughout June. I don't blame them as they can't afford to not make money for so long.
I read that dentists are allowed to reopen from the 8th June and surely they cannot social distance whilst providing treatment?
I think a lot of people have seen the recent relaxation measures as a green light to go back to work.
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I think with the relaxations from Monday, shops re-opening etc. more escorts are bound to go back to work next week. I won't for at least a few more weeks, and have to say, track and trace is a concern.
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I had an upturn in enquiries when the lockdown happened, and it's on it's way up again now. Guys wanting to see me NOW or tomorrow. Generally they're either OK or don't reply when I refuse their booking, but a couple have been a bit "off" in attitude, like it's MY FAULT or something. "well do you escort or not !" was one reply I got to a polite refusal earlier.
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I had an upturn in enquiries when the lockdown happened, and it's on it's way up again now. Guys wanting to see me NOW or tomorrow. Generally they're either OK or don't reply when I refuse their booking, but a couple have been a bit "off" in attitude, like it's MY FAULT or something. "well do you escort or not !" was one reply I got to a polite refusal earlier.
Yes I'm getting more enquiries aswell
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I think with the relaxations from Monday, shops re-opening etc. more escorts are bound to go back to work next week. I won't for at least a few more weeks, and have to say, track and trace is a concern.
I agree the track and trace is a concern. But if we don't get the app, we aren't a part of it? And if one of our guys gets it, they will surely call us to tell us and if they have the app and we are contacted, we don't have to say we are escorts? I haven't read too much about this so I'm not sure. I've got to the stage where I'm not watching much of the news.
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Correct, many will be back to work next week following the rules relaxation or soon as their savings won’t last forever. Hopefully the little hitlers who love to lynch and dictate to others what to do with their own lives will get over it and get on with life as we all should. The way some people sniff around escorts decisions and wallets is a disgrace!
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I agree the track and trace is a concern. But if we don't get the app, we aren't a part of it? And if one of our guys gets it, they will surely call us to tell us and if they have the app and we are contacted, we don't have to say we are escorts? I haven't read too much about this so I'm not sure. I've got to the stage where I'm not watching much of the news.
The app isn't being used, and thank fuck for that. The 'track and trace' currently operating (from what I've seen) is more similar to that used by the GUMs, where they ask the person who tested positive to provide contact details for everybody they may have had sufficient contact with to infect them with something and then the clinic contacts those people directly and individually. I assume this is to stop everybody who walked past a bloke who sneezed in the queue at an ATM getting carpetbombed with pointless messages via their bluetooth, although it also doesn't cover those who might have been stuck next to him on a busy train for an hour. Nobody gives a toss what any of them.do for a living - they have far more interesting things to think about.
Hopefully the little hitlers who love to lynch and dictate to others what to do with their own lives will get over it and get on with life as we all should. The way some people sniff around escorts decisions and wallets is a disgrace!
That sounds dreadful NS - I can't say I've had anything like that at all. Maybe you need to be a bit more choosy about the company you keep?
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Lots of schools return on Monday so I think lots of us will be glad to have some time to get back to work and get some money in. There has been no talk of any more help for self employed so I for one will be starting back on Monday.
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I agree the track and trace is a concern. But if we don't get the app, we aren't a part of it? And if one of our guys gets it, they will surely call us to tell us and if they have the app and we are contacted, we don't have to say we are escorts? I haven't read too much about this so I'm not sure. I've got to the stage where I'm not watching much of the news.
Yes, as Amy said, not the app but the manual T&T. So if an escort tests positive and has been working, she should really give the tracers the phone numbers of all the clients she's seen, and vice versa - bit of a nightmare re. discretion! If you're told you've been exposed, you're then meant to self-isolate for 14 days, even if you've already had it.
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Ok thanks. Really need to have a think about this test and trace thing and what I'll do if I do come down with symptoms. I might do a blog post on this and tell my men to keep an eye on my website because if I do come down with symptoms I'll let them know that way? As to telling the tracers about these people, surely it can't be done in our situation?
Our job is the elephant in the room. I'm so conflicted about this because ideally they do need to know but we are meant to be discreet. Most of my men are regs so a bit easier for me but my phone only keeps the last ten numbers anyway so I wouldn't be able to give details even if I was willing to, which I don't think I am.
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I don't even keep all my numbers
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Ok thanks. Really need to have a think about this test and trace thing and what I'll do if I do come down with symptoms. I might do a blog post on this and tell my men to keep an eye on my website because if I do come down with symptoms I'll let them know that way? As to telling the tracers about these people, surely it can't be done in our situation?
Our job is the elephant in the room. I'm so conflicted about this because ideally they do need to know but we are meant to be discreet. Most of my men are regs so a bit easier for me but my phone only keeps the last ten numbers anyway so I wouldn't be able to give details even if I was willing to, which I don't think I am.
I'd be amazed if they wanted to know anything more than a list of phone numbers - why would they need any more detail than that? They will have thousands of people's data to go through and they won't be remotely interested in anything bar doing the job they've been tasked with; as ever, we're really not that fascinating.
Don't forget to tell them you saw Dominic Cummings ;D.
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I think many clients will choose not to be part of the track and trace app ie they won't download it as an app onto their mobile.
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I know many of us are considering renting serviced apartments, holiday lets etc instead of hotels. Be careful with that in Touristy areas. Down here in the southwest any holday lets, airbnb etc are being checked on by the council because tourists arent supposed to be coming down here. They are only allowed to be offering accommodation to local key workers. Also locals are getting militant about it and watching all known short term let properties like hawks. Not a good situation to find yourself in as an escort. Just be aware.
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I know many of us are considering renting serviced apartments, holiday lets etc instead of hotels. Be careful with that in Touristy areas. Down here in the southwest any holday lets, airbnb etc are being checked on by the council because tourists arent supposed to be coming down here. They are only allowed to be offering accommodation to local key workers. Also locals are getting militant about it and watching all known short term let properties like hawks. Not a good situation to find yourself in as an escort. Just be aware.
Was a survey that said 7% of Brits had reported someone to the police over covid so 7% of your neighbours / fellow residents will happily sell you down the river. More in some areas as you say.
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Was a survey that said 7% of Brits had reported someone to the police over covid so 7% of your neighbours / fellow residents will happily sell you down the river.
Therefore according to the very same survey, 93% of them have/would not :)
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I think many clients will choose not to be part of the track and trace app ie they won't download it as an app onto their mobile.
The app isn't happening - at least not for a long while yet. The track & trace that has been unrolled is basically: if you develop symptoms, you request a test. The person you speak to will ask who you've been less than 2 metres away from for more than 15 mins in the past week/fortnight, and will take their details. Then those people are contacted to tell them to isolate for 14 days and if they get symptoms to get a test/disclose their close contacts. And so on.
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I definitely would refuse to download the app and be big brother tracked its too invasive. I also will go back to working in a few weeks when the other none essential businesses open like shops. tired of living to the bare bones and gone through my savings as I didn't qualify for the self employed grant. not fun.
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The app isn't happening - at least not for a long while yet. The track & trace that has been unrolled is basically: if you develop symptoms, you request a test. The person you speak to will ask who you've been less than 2 metres away from for more than 15 mins in the past week/fortnight, and will take their details. Then those people are contacted to tell them to isolate for 14 days and if they get symptoms to get a test/disclose their close contacts. And so on.
To add to this, here's the link to the gov info about track & trace. Again, there is NO app.
gov .uk/guidance/nhs-test-and-trace-how-it-works
(remove space after "gov")
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And one more time for the cheap seats :)
The app isn't being used,
Yes, as Amy said, not the app
The app isn't happening
Again, there is NO app.
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The person you speak to will ask who you've been less than 2 metres away from for more than 15 mins in the past week/fortnight, and will take their details. Then those people are contacted to tell them to isolate for 14 days...
Ten minute quickies it is then 😁.
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Is anybody starting work again next week?
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Is anybody starting work again next week?
I am in school hours thank god. This will he the first time I’ve had any time to myself or to work in three months I’m there with bells on !!!
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Is anybody starting work again next week?
No, it will be July at the earliest for me.
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Is anybody starting work again next week?
Yes!!
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I'm thinking end of August, financially I'm ok, and hopefully am having surgery done the end of July that will put me out 3-4 weeks, so August/september works for me, hopefully things will be clearer then.
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Starting tomorrow too, but I've had my phones on the last two weeks just to give information and get ready to get things started and had very very little business. Today for some weird reasons I've had many enquiries for the upcoming week. I'm fearing a recession and that things won't go back to pre-lockdown till October at least. I'm in central London and it's quite dead.
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Restarting work is going to be one of the classic examples of everyone picking their own place on the risk - reward scale, and everyone's place on that will be right for them rather than for everyone.
(Hint, in case anyone's considering telling people off for starting or saying they're frit for not: don't.)
Even if you do remove, say, kissing from your services, you're still in a room with someone getting hot and panting a lot, often in the direction of your face. Whether that's worth the money to you depends on a whole bunch of factors, and not just how much you need the money.
I can probably hear some people doing pro-dom(me) work laughing about how existing kit would make it safer though...
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Since I started the previous comment, I see that the UK government..
.. the one led by Boris "at least he wasn't having an affair (like me)" Johnson ..
.. is just in the process of making sex between two (or more) people in a private place who do not live in the same household an illegal "gathering" ..
.. unless it's for the purpose of work (or a few other now very limited reasons).
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The definition of "a gathering" is "when two or more people are present together in the same place in order to engage in any form of social interaction with each other, or to undertake any other activity with each other". Sex is obviously included in that.
From tomorrow, Monday 1st June, in England:
"No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place -
a) outdoors, and consists of more than six persons, or
b) indoors, and consists of two or more persons."
Unless it is
- to avoid harm
- to private care or assistance to a vulnerable person
- to provide emergency assistance or
- for work purposes
It goes on to add 'or for the provision of voluntary or charitable services', but I wonder if anyone really wants to be on the front page of every newspaper for trying that as a reason...
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The definition of "a gathering" is "when two or more people are present together in the same place in order to engage in any form of social interaction with each other, or to undertake any other activity with each other". Sex is obviously included in that.
From tomorrow, Monday 1st June, in England:
"No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place -
a) outdoors, and consists of more than six persons, or
b) indoors, and consists of two or more persons."
Unless it is
- to avoid harm
- to private care or assistance to a vulnerable person
- to provide emergency assistance or
- for work purposes
It goes on to add 'or for the provision of voluntary or charitable services', but I wonder if anyone really wants to be on the front page of every newspaper for trying that as a reason...
We can laugh, but I do think people need to think about this - escort bookings are clearly illegal for now, and unlikely as it may be, you could end up with a fine or worse. And a lot of people are being reported by neighbours etc., plus hotels are likely to be on the look out.
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We can laugh, but I do think people need to think about this
And I'm sure the people to whom it applies, will. Those who are not working and don't need to worry about it will likely have their own affairs to think about, and provided those don't include sticking their unwanted and unasked for oars in other sex workers' business then I'm sure they'll feel much the better for it :).
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Sorry but in my case I've decided to follow government regulations and put myself in the cathegory of "people who cannot work from home and must go to work".
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It's not in law until it's passed today.
Also if it does go through the requirement for a reason to be outside is being removed. :D
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I lack a venue for some considerable time. My son's school will only be part time and earliest from mid June and no more than 5 weeks then school holds and from September also may be part-time. That said I wouldn't need to see too many during this pandemic until things considerably die down. Luckily I have very low overheads. I can live on a scrimp. I am working on the basis that there will be very little for now to be realistic. I will offer outcalls as well as a handful of monthly incalls and anticipate no more than two monthly (never very popular but likely to be the longer bookings) and hopefully by November school should be full time and thereafter I am aiming for two thirds of usual earnings to be realistic for a year or so.
Even if enquiries and bookings came flooding in (unlikely!) I would be too freaked to take many unless and until the pandemic got to level 2 or level 1. And that may well be a very long time off.
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Surely ref two people indoors the 'unless it is work' category applies to us? Making sexwork legal ? Anyway my neighbours have never reported me in 8 years we aren't at all close but we are civil to each other and they aren't likely to start reporting on me now. It isn't as if I will be hammering it.
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Until the Covid-19 warning on my AW profile is off I won’t be working. This is just a personal preference as it will make me feel more comfortable offering bookings. I am very fortunate that I have another income and have support . But I totally respect others that feel the need to go to work now and I wish you all the luck in the world - it’s been a hard few months. Things will eventually go back to normal but there will always be the fear of the virus in the back of everyone’s mind - I know my services will he changed once I’m back and I’ll be working less. Good luck girls ! Xxx
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Not sure how true it is cause i havnt seen anything official from government but apparently, from today it’s illegal from today to have sex with anyone that you don’t live with. I’m not sure what to make of this!
If it’s true it’s a massive blow to me as I won’t be storming into hotels with my name on a booking if I’m breaking the law and I’m not sure how clients will react either. I planned on going back to work late July (ish) but I can’t see them changing a law for the sake of a month or 2.
Someone please tell me the mirror is talking shit! :o
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Merged with relevant thread.
The Mirror (Sun/Star/Express/Mail etc) is always talking shit because their slackjawed readers won't buy it otherwise, but this has already been amply covered above :)
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Aaah I didn’t know it had already been covered.
Yeh, they’re are the worst, they pick an element of a story and amplify it by 1000, just thought I’d ask if anyone knew anything more on it
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It's in the local papers too so I've just read
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I can't see a thing on the gov website about this? Are these reports interpretations? I can see someone posted about this on Twitter but to be honest, I can't be bothered to look at the information and decipher it myself?
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Hi its already been passed at 11.30am june 1st today they dont need to vote it's on the news website.
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I can't see a thing on the gov website about this? Are these reports interpretations? I can see someone posted about this on Twitter but to be honest, I can't be bothered to look at the information and decipher it myself?
The announcement of the updated guidelines is at 1130, I think. Given that nobody outside the obvious work-type/vulnerable person exceptions is supposed to have been indoors with somebody not from their household for months anyway it's hard to see what the fuss is about, although since the hookup sites have been doing a roaring trade and civvy people who live apart from their partners will be getting pretty fed up, I daresay that instigated them being a bit more specific.
And obviously the news that People Sometimes Have Sex When They Aren't Supposed To! helps to sell shitty newspapers a lot more than somebody going round to their friends to get pissed and watch Netflix ::).
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I can't see a thing on the gov website about this? Are these reports interpretations? I can see someone posted about this on Twitter but to be honest, I can't be bothered to look at the information and decipher it myself?
I downloaded the document last night it's amendment 3 to the Health Protection regulations 2020 to be 'laid before Parliament' 11.30am today.
It's in there, not an interpretation.
Interesting to see what lawyers say about this.
I suspect it's a tool to be used for things like the parties which have been reported, at which police were told to go away and had a lot of problems controlling.
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Wait... so the government approved a law today were nobody Is to have sex with anybody that is not their live in spouse? (Unless you're Dominic Cummings of course).
(Insert massive "LOL" in this space)
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No, despite the best efforts of everybody commentating to make it All About The Sexy Sex!!! the amendments as Ian has already posted are as follows:
“No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place indoors, and consists of two or more persons.”
and
“No person may, without reasonable excuse, stay overnight at any place other than the place where they are living.”
These would obviously include having sex with somebody from outside your household, as well as having dinner with them at the table, cutting their hair in the kitchen or helping them bath the dog. And none of these things were permitted yesterday, last week or a month ago either.
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No, despite the best efforts of everybody commentating to make it All About The Sexy Sex!!! the amendments as Ian has already posted are as follows:
“No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place indoors, and consists of two or more persons.”
and
“No person may, without reasonable excuse, stay overnight at any place other than the place where they are living.”
These would obviously include having sex with somebody from outside your household, as well as having dinner with them at the table, cutting their hair in the kitchen or helping them bath the dog. And none of these things were permitted yesterday, last week or a month ago either.
Yes so many have turned it into a sex thing, when there is no mention of sex at all!
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Yes so many have turned it into a sex thing, when there is no mention of sex at all!
If I cannot meet anyone outside "my house hold" for other reasons mentioned in those government laws that means I can only have sex with my live in spouse, unless I decid to meet someone for outdoors sex (but that was illegal before lockdown anyway). which means I'm truly f-cked as I don't have a spouse so I'm guessing I need to remain celibate now that dogging is out of the question.
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I'm wondering if anybody on here has actually done a hotel outcall over the past few weeks to someone who is a keyworker who has managed to book a room? I wondered if keyworkers who book the room are allowed a guest who isn't a keyworker. I phoned one budget hotel and they said 1 keyworker per room. I wondered if it's the same in all hotels.
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I presume they've made this ruling specific for a reason, i.e. people were breaking it by visiting friends, family... and fuckbuddies.
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Oh ok, thanks for info. I actually thought the gov had stated the no sex thing. But the having sex with someone outside our household is obviously included without them actually saying the "sex" word.
I've been reading up on mouthwash and Covid-19. No hard data yet but in my view it's worth using. If you research online, some scientists are saying it needs further investigation.
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Just heard on the news police can 'direct' someone to leave someone else's home and issue a 100 quid fine, but they cannot use force to remove them.
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Just heard on the news police can 'direct' someone to leave someone else's home and issue a 100 quid fine, but they cannot use force to remove them.
Slightly pointless except for whoever is making the cash from the £100, screw that because that would be ‘our’ money 😂😂
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I will pay the fine then.
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And none of these things were permitted yesterday, last week or a month ago either.
What's happened is that the list of exceptions for indoor gatherings of 2+ has started being exhaustive, i.e. only reasons on that list are acceptable. It wasn't before.
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Slightly confused to how my local brothel has reopened ::)
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Slightly confused to how my local brothel has reopened ::)
Wow! Sounds like they may have just jumped on the “easing down” of lockdown and opened regardless, plus the money, is it definitely open or maybe a manger just went into it and you walked past thinking it open? I bet someone will phone the police on them.
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Where's that? They'll get done.
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Slightly confused to how my local brothel has reopened ::)
I daresay they think they're untouchable if they're been operating for a while without the police closing them down. I suspect they might be wrong about it this time though, especially if they're being blatant.
What's happened is that the list of exceptions for indoor gatherings of 2+ has started being exhaustive, i.e. only reasons on that list are acceptable. It wasn't before.
What I meant was, I cannot see anything at all that I was permitted to do a week or a month ago that I now cannot do as a result of these 'changes'? We had pages of discussion not that far up the thread about when people would be allowed to visit others in their homes and the only potentially helpful part I can spot is the 'work' exception, which in theory should include us (but likely won't because we're not on the list of business that are OK to open/run). This will give a handful of clever cunts on Twatter something to pick to pieces while they're sitting at home on full pay, but I'm talking about practical impact on the people here who need money.
God, I am so fucking bored of it all.
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What's happened is that the list of exceptions for indoor gatherings of 2+ has started being exhaustive, i.e. only reasons on that list are acceptable. It wasn't before.
Could I ask what these "excuses" were, please,
which might be useful to "us"? TYI.
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Slightly confused to how my local brothel has reopened ::)
Worrying!
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Anyone else fed up of punters bugging you to work, when you're clearly marked as not working during all of this? I'm tempted to deactivate my adultwork, but not sure if it would end up bejng deleted permanently? Only keeping it up for the money I get from pics and vids and it's labelled everywhere that I'm not working.
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Hello ladies i would like ask u if i can work in this time about this new law from monday thank u
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Anyone else fed up of punters bugging you to work, when you're clearly marked as not working during all of this? I'm tempted to deactivate my adultwork, but not sure if it would end up bejng deleted permanently? Only keeping it up for the money I get from pics and vids and it's labelled everywhere that I'm not working.
Similar situation with me these last few days. A sharp increase in requests to meet on the day when they know I am not back at work yet. Testing to see if I am lying? Possibly but whatever it is I don't respond to them. I think now I will only see known clients when I do decide to return. At first anyway. I have kept my work phone active but unknown numbers are just ignored.
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Where's that? They'll get done.
Cardiff.
My male friend went there on the weekend :o
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Hello ladies i would like ask u if i can work in this time about this new law from monday thank u
No, it remains illegal to work. It will stay illegal until indoor social distancing laws are revoked.
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Similar situation with me these last few days. A sharp increase in requests to meet on the day when they know I am not back at work yet. Testing to see if I am lying? Possibly but whatever it is I don't respond to them. I think now I will only see known clients when I do decide to return. At first anyway. I have kept my work phone active but unknown numbers are just ignored.
I've started just ignoring and blocking now. I do not wish to see anyone that would put their health at risk like that.
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No, it remains illegal to work. It will stay illegal until indoor social distancing laws are revoked.
When do u think it will be revoked next 3 weeks perhaps?Or longer :/
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No, it remains illegal to work. It will stay illegal until indoor social distancing laws are revoked.
The poster asked if she could work, not if she could work legally. The two things are not the same, and like everybody else she needs to be aware of the differing risks and decide for herself as Ian has said already :).
When do u think it will be revoked next 3 weeks perhaps?Or longer :/
Helen, the people who make the laws don't know the answer (or if they do they're certainly not giving anything away), so there's really no point asking anonymous randoms on an internet forum who have no input and know absolutely nothing about it, and I'm including myself in that.
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I'm going back to work on 6th July; I have bills to pay. I don't speculate as to when/if it will be legal to work again as it doesn't matter. I am staying out for an extended period of time.
I started my own personal lockdown and stopped working 2 weeks before the official lockdown to protect a family member who was deemed high risk. She is now not high risk as the government advice has changed and she received personal correspondence to that effect.
My own personal take on Covid 19 is that it could be around for quite some time but I am not putting my family into destitution because of a virus that i might /might not catch or have had already. I was really unwell before Christmas and again in February, so much so that I had to take sick days on tour. I remember driving from Hertfordshire to Yorkshire thinking I was going to pass out and then had to drive home to Norfolk a day later (where I should have gone in the first place). That was my last tour.
I have accepted that my choice of job involves close personal contact and that comes with risks but I'm not giving up my job. I've got just as much chance of getting killed in a head on collision driving round the UK but it doesn't stop me going to work.
I am lucky that I had savings and have had help from the government but I need to return for my mental health as much as for the income.
I respect everyone's decisions as we all have to weigh up our own personal pros and cons.
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I haven't seen a willy since lockdown.
Going by the empty shelves of baby wipes i'm guessing a lot more are going back.
Even though I have had my phone on I've had idiots galore calling.
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I haven't seen a willy since lockdown.
Going by the empty shelves of baby wipes i'm guessing a lot more are going back.
Even though I have had my phone on I've had idiots galore calling.
Wipes were wiped out in the loo roll rush at the start of restrictions, so may not necessarily be a sign of sex work.
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I'm the same Saffy, Not a sausage since lockdown lol the pound shops normally have wipes.
I did plan on starting back July, I don't even have my new number on AW so it's AW messages only and it's odd how many guys with no feedback keep asking if I'm available even though I have also stated on my profile not working until further notice. Also these guys with no feedback do not message like my usual type of clients, Strange.
I think it will not matter if you start working now or July or September with the way of the law and all the unpredictable changes most not backed by science. If I had a boyfriend living in another house now and I had not seen him since lockdown I would not listen to the Gov telling me i can't have what is humanly right. We are adults and so we can be sensible and still be closer than 2 meters. I have used buses and been in a closed window cabs with drivers chatting away and did not stay hiding away but tried to get out 3 times a week. I'm going to my best mates flat today for wine and nibbles and a catch up after not seeing her since lockdown, Illegal but my mental health will be better for the human interaction.
I plan on only seeing those I know and just work to keep the basics played for but visits would have to be after dark.
Is anyone planning on wearing masks and not offering FK and OWO? If most girls are using these precautions then it will be the norm for punters. Not that I believe it will guarantee not catching anything.
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I think these punters like the idea of being the first one in after a sw has had a break. Can't say I blame them. I am doing owo but I've never offered kissing and that's the same for me now. But gargling with a good quality mouthwash.
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Has anyone else noticed clients becoming almost desperate? I've got a few lines on my AW profile saying that I'm not working at the min etc. I've had regs message me suggesting we meet "up the woods", or that I do a car meet and so on. Or that they come to mine pretending to deliver food for me to provide a cover story for the neighbour's. I pointed out that they see me going out to the shops to do my own shopping. Just seem to be getting increasingly desperate requests. Hopefully this means we will all my mega busy when we are able to work legally.
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Has anyone else noticed clients becoming almost desperate? I've got a few lines on my AW profile saying that I'm not working at the min etc. I've had regs message me suggesting we meet "up the woods", or that I do a car meet and so on. Or that they come to mine pretending to deliver food for me to provide a cover story for the neighbour's. I pointed out that they see me going out to the shops to do my own shopping. Just seem to be getting increasingly desperate requests. Hopefully this means we will all my mega busy when we are able to work legally.
I've had this kind of thing. Meeting in the park and stuff. I think if you're going to meet an escort you may as well just do it, no pissing about. If I were a punter and I wanted to meet an escort I'd just be sure to meet someone who operated from big apartment blocks in anonymous, urban areas where it would be highly unlikely to be noticed. But some of these guys probably kinda like the thrill of the extra taboo that this activity now carries, as I think paying for sex for a lot of punters has always been at least a little bit about the sense of the 'illicit'.
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Has anyone else noticed clients becoming almost desperate? I've got a few lines on my AW profile saying that I'm not working at the min etc. I've had regs message me suggesting we meet "up the woods", or that I do a car meet and so on. Or that they come to mine pretending to deliver food for me to provide a cover story for the neighbour's. I pointed out that they see me going out to the shops to do my own shopping. Just seem to be getting increasingly desperate requests. Hopefully this means we will all my mega busy when we are able to work legally.
It's only been newbies who have been suggesting this sort of thing, and laughing when I say "No".
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I think these punters like the idea of being the first one in after a sw has had a break.
I'd liken it to the ones who call wanting the first booking of the day - it mystifies me because it's my worst one by far and I'm still mentally settling into the working day and after a week or more off I'm even worse. I remember once having one of these who when pressed for an exact time asked for 11am, when it was my first day in a hotel in a new place and I was starting at 8. He wasn't keen to pay me to sit around for three hours as well as for his hour ::).
Is anyone planning on wearing masks and not offering FK and OWO?
If I was even contemplating wearing masks for bookings I wouldn't bother working at all, and ditto kissing (although that's because it's an integral part of my service to the point where bookings without it make me uncomfortable) but I don't offer OWO or RO anyway. If I did I wouldn't be stopping, though :).
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I think these punters like the idea of being the first one in after a sw has had a break.
I’ve had these requests several times, dismissed every single one. Similar to ‘first of the day clients’. Needy and annoying. They’re paying the same as everyone else so I will see them when I can fit them in ;D
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We may make alot of money when guys do visit again
Trying to be positive here
But some may not be able to afford to anymore depending on their financial predicament.
Personally I can't wait to get back to work. But best see the hairdresser beforehand !!
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We may make alot of money when guys do visit again
Trying to be positive here
But some may not be able to afford to anymore depending on their financial predicament.
Personally I can't wait to get back to work. But best see the hairdresser beforehand !!
We will make good money as they find a way somehow for pusy. Pubs be flooded once open so we won't be out of work.
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We may make alot of money when guys do visit again
Trying to be positive here
But some may not be able to afford to anymore depending on their financial predicament.
Personally I can't wait to get back to work. But best see the hairdresser beforehand !!
I worked at strip clubs in the last recession. Used to make loads. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much. They always find a way to get the cash if they want to see you.
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I agree with you Blondie. They can always use credit or avoid paying a bill. If guys are fuelled by porn or overwhelming lust then they will let that override their budgeting skills/common sense.
Lust can take over like any addiction can.
I have two lots of two hours booked for next week while my son is having 3 measly mornings at school. I only have six mornings June/July thanks to Boris undervaluing young people and their education/job prospects/future so I have to make urgent hay while the sun shines! One is a returnee and one is a newbie.
I wrote a blog this morning on AW and had so many ask if I was free. I didn't even have any availability showing. Guys must be getting desperate out there.....!
All I know is I am going to learn haircutting skills on you tube as I ain't going to waste money on fancy haircuts while we all go in one at a time. What a carry on.
If I keep living meager it may mean I can get my fillers done again next February. Winter discount season then. I would so love to have them done again like last year in June.... It would really mean the world!! Vain bitch that I am lol.
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Lust can take over like any addiction can.
Guys must be getting desperate out there.....!
Yes, to both. I've noticed a sharp rise in enquiries, from regulars mostly, in the past week or so. It's more than doubled. But unfortunately will only be able to see a few over the next couple of months.
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definitely an increase in enquiries, mine have been all from new ones, obviously their regs aren’t available yet lol, neither am I yet so they are out of luck.
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I keep getting enquiries about 2 hour bookings just like some have also said here, I’m not keen on 2 hours with men I don’t know incase they are all sex sex sex.
Most of them have plenty feedback though but still not that keen.
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definitely an increase in enquiries, mine have been all from new ones, obviously their regs aren’t available yet lol, neither am I yet so they are out of luck.
You girls are very lucky. I started almost 10 days ago and it's dead for me. I've had a couple of regulars and lots of boundary pushers thinking I must desperate and will deal with any BS thrown my way. Not happening. I'll starve and that's fine. It's been quite sh-tty, but then most of my clients are international travellers and those have tragically dissapeared. I don;t see they will be coming back till after the flying quaratine. I know it will get better eventually but my personal experience at the moment is a sh-t show. I'm in central London.
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Yes its very quiet loads of calls but no clients think the sex ban has put people off just not worth bothering with at the moment.
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I have found over the years that the only clients who are usually about sex sex sex are mainly those under 35 or so.
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I have found over the years that the only clients who are usually about sex sex sex are mainly those under 35 or so.
Oldies are paying for a therapist too. Pornhub has alot to answer for.
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from Saturday sex ban lifted so lets get back to work
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YES YES YES!!!! ;D.
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from Saturday sex ban lifted so lets get back to work
Ooh where did u see this :)
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from Saturday sex ban lifted so lets get back to work
Is this the new ,"bubble" thing where BoJo said today people can go and visit one other household and stay over?
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Yeah I've just been reading the news...
I wonder if AW VIVA banners will come down or stay up there abit longer perhaps?
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Don't get too excited it's only any good if you have 1 client and either him or you live on your own!
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That's just one other household to be in a lockdown bubble with though. I have a feeling aw etc will have to have us blurred out indefinitely seeing as our jobs are the elephant in the room. Mind you, dentists are back but they're wearing protective clothing which we can't do.
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Is this the new ,"bubble" thing where BoJo said today people can go and visit one other household and stay over?
Well the bubble thing is not what it seems as far as we are concerned. Sorry to burst it but what I got from the statement was that one person can go and visit another household and stay overnight if they wish but that is the ONLY other household they can visit! It is not giving free rein to let lots of different people into our homes over the course of a few days or weeks.
This will not be a concern for those already still working or those who have not stopped at all.
(others have beat me to it with this one, posting at same time!)
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Ooh where did u see this :)
God alone knows, since there has never been a 'sex ban'.
Don't get too excited it's only any good if you have 1 client and either him or you live on your own!
Exactly. The rule change today makes no difference whatsoever (unless anybody actually did want to just have one regular coming and going - I think I'd go round the bloody bend ;D).
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There's something on the BBC news about test and trace. Two thirds of people who have tested positive are giving details of people they've been in contact with. I do wonder if they will make this a legal requirement.
I do feel a sex worker article coming on as they must be getting short of angles. I hope they take the same interest with people who are still shagging various people for free.
Edited to add correct info.
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I do feel a sex worker article coming on as they must be getting short of angles. I hope they take the same interest with people who are still shagging various people for free.
Tinder and grindr are thriving right now with sex hook ups, but it's not sex work so BBC is not interested.
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The government won't impose a track and trace on all in society as many don't use a mobile or if they do it isn't with wifi.In addition unless I have missed something track and trace isn't in place yet.
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The government won't impose a track and trace on all in society as many don't use a mobile or if they do it isn't with wifi.In addition unless I have missed something track and trace isn't in place yet.
Contact tracers are in place they ask those who test positive who they have had close (less than 2 metres for more than 15 minutes), contact with then they make contact to ask those people to sef-isolate for 2 weeks.
This isn't an app, it's asking people to disclose.
At the moment this is being called 'test and trace' there are articles about it on the BBC website.
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The government won't impose a track and trace on all in society as many don't use a mobile or if they do it isn't with wifi.In addition unless I have missed something track and trace isn't in place yet.
Yes it's started. I was looking to get a job tracing, ringing the infected or deceased next of kin and their contacts but realised it was only for 3 months. As for the App there's no obligation to use it at all.
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Don't get too excited it's only any good if you have 1 client and either him or you live on your own!
Ideal for me then being low key.
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Ideal for me then being low key.
You would have to be very VERY low key. You'd both have to live alone. You both aren't allowed to go to anyone else's house, just each others. You both can't chop and change, you both can just pick ONE single person/parent household and stick to that. So that would mean choosing to be "exclusive" to each other for however long the gov decides these "bubbles" will work.
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Yes I have read the BBC news apps since writing the above. Test and trace is happening.
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I do think whilst people are being asked to disclose, a fair majority of punters are very unlikely to want to disclose a sex worker when asked who they’ve seen recently.
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That's just one other household to be in a lockdown bubble with though. I have a feeling aw etc will have to have us blurred out indefinitely seeing as our jobs are the elephant in the room. Mind you, dentists are back but they're wearing protective clothing which we can't do.
Osteopath's are back too - in my local area they are kicking off services from 15 June.
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I’m not even a nervous person at all but is anyone else hotel based starting to feel a bit jittery about their first day back?
I just really need to get in there so I know if it’s workable or not :FF
I keep flitting from going back as soon as I can to giving myself til September off.
Im going to ask clients to contact me direct if they have symptoms or test positive
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I’m not even a nervous person at all but is anyone else hotel based starting to feel a bit jittery about their first day back?
I just really need to get in there so I know if it’s workable or not :FF
I keep flitting from going back as soon as I can to giving myself til September off.
Im going to ask clients to contact me direct if they have symptoms or test positive
Before you book it perhaps go to the hotel and try and walk in and up to the rooms. If you don’t get stopped then go ahead and book.
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Before you book it perhaps go to the hotel and try and walk in and up to the rooms. If you don’t get stopped then go ahead and book.
Then have a perfect excuse why you are in the lift/corridoor etc. if you do get stopped! I don't think my nerves would stand it doing all this so will wait until I can accept bookings in the comfort of my own place.
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Yes I have read the BBC news apps since writing the above. Test and trace is happening.
Yes, test and trace IS happening, but still not with an app (yet). You get symptoms, you ask for a test, you get told to self isolate and asked who the most recent people you were in close contact with. You tell them. They contact those people and tell them to isolate and ask who THEY have been in close contact with. And so on. But at the moment you can refuse to give details (they showed the stats of how many refused yesterday).
When the app comes in, I won't be having it. At least not on a phone that goes anywhere or has anything on it. I'll comply with self-reporting.
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With the new bubble system would I be able to see my sugar daddy again? We've both been isolating for 3 months now, but live in serperate households. I do not plan to go back to escorting yet, would just be seeing him. He has been supporting me during this, so really want to be able to see him atleast.
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With the new bubble system would I be able to see my sugar daddy again? We've both been isolating for 3 months now, but live in serperate households. I do not plan to go back to escorting yet, would just be seeing him. He has been supporting me during this, so really want to be able to see him atleast.
YES as long as HE is in a single person household and YOU are in a single person household, and neither of you plan to visit any of your other single friends (or other clients/ladies) at the mo. You and him have to exclusively visit each other in either your home or his home until the regulations change again. If this is the case - enjoy! :)
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I’m not even a nervous person at all but is anyone else hotel based starting to feel a bit jittery about their first day back?
I just really need to get in there so I know if it’s workable or not :FF
I keep flitting from going back as soon as I can to giving myself til September off.
Im going to ask clients to contact me direct if they have symptoms or test positive
Thankyou, yeh Iv already planned to do that but it’s not the same as a working day, I’m just going to get dressed to greet my first few clients in case anything happens.
I thought maybe stay low volume max 5 a day for a few weeks but there will likely be other girls working too so that could be a bit pointless if there’s 5 of us, that’s a minimum of 25 passing reception **cringe** ha
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For those who are working (especially in London), how is business? I’ve found a nice and discerner hotel in West London which accommodates non-essential workers and so I’m thinking of coming back the week after next.
The one thing I’m concerned about is whether or not there’s enough traffic or if it’s straight up not worth coming because of a lack of interest. I don’t wanna be sitting in hotels all day without any bookings.
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Have any lady's given work a go yet and have u been busy?
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Have any lady's given work a go yet and have u been busy?
I’ve had plenty of enquires from regulars and new clients but I won’t be returning til Probably September
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Have any lady's given work a go yet and have u been busy?
When I returned I was really busy with regulars, but now I just think it's the same as before lockdown: busy days and quiet days.
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I did two very short mornings this week but one returnee had already booked and one new guy had already booked ahead. In addition to that I tested the water by putting Local Search on plus showing On for ukadultzone plus one of the two days I showed my number. There were a few calls but not overly so however I was busy with the 2 hour bookings so didn't get back to them. No genuine sounding new people no.
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When I returned I was really busy with regulars, but now I just think it's the same as before lockdown: busy days and quiet days.
It’s been like that for me as well
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Hi all, I also tested the waters this week, Found my regulars eager to book me from AW. But I also did vivastreet abs had 15 calls before lunchtime.
I'm not nervous as such but have found timewasters trying to get a deal.
Did have my first booking today and a guy I've seen before. Dipped my toe but still feel very cautious.
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Also it felt great to put on my sexy undies and do what I find exciting after lockdown.
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To those who are returning in July . I’m sure the banner will still be in AW and we are unable to meet . But if we were to meet , how could We advise clients We will be in X place on X date ? Is anyone else concerned about advertising being available on a certain date , so if we do work in that case are we best not alluding to when we are working on our profile and just appear as available with our number for calls on the day?
I’m worried about AW kicking me off but I really need to get back to work in July even part time a day or so a week .
Wondered what other girls plans were with AW from July x?:) xxx
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I’ve found am still getting enough enquiries that I can direct them to
My email address and then discuss with them there possible meets. Not sure how you would
Make that work with touring but there seems to be enough interest around.
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I have found things pretty dead for me, not surprising as I usually deal with the married/working travellers crowd, they are not able to get out so I am not surprised, it will be very austere for me until people are able to travel.
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To those who are returning in July . I’m sure the banner will still be in AW and we are unable to meet . But if we were to meet , how could We advise clients We will be in X place on X date ? Is anyone else concerned about advertising being available on a certain date , so if we do work in that case are we best not alluding to when we are working on our profile and just appear as available with our number for calls on the day?
I’m worried about AW kicking me off but I really need to get back to work in July even part time a day or so a week .
Wondered what other girls plans were with AW from July x?:) xxx
I doubt AW will kick you off. The banner is just AW covering their own ass. AW is an advertising directory, they don't control you or the customers.
How you would advise clients is the same as you always did. Words on your profile, or replies to messages, or when speaking to guys on the phone. It's up to you to assess the risk (of you contracting/passing on COVID) and whether you're happy to take that risk for yourself and your family for the sake of taking bookings.
The biggest concern is potentially the media or journalists trying to 'get a story', and this was covered earlier in the thread.
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And what about offering massage service only? My friend already working in a parlor in north london but they only offer relaxing swedish massage with happy ending. I must also go back to work because im starting university in September and im a lodger in someone else house so means i need to get my own place from july.
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I doubt AW will kick you off. The banner is just AW covering their own ass. AW is an advertising directory, they don't control you or the customers.
How you would advise clients is the same as you always did. Words on your profile, or replies to messages, or when speaking to guys on the phone. It's up to you to assess the risk (of you contracting/passing on COVID) and whether you're happy to take that risk for yourself and your family for the sake of taking bookings.
The biggest concern is potentially the media or journalists trying to 'get a story', and this was covered earlier in the thread.
+1
I know of someone who is already working and she said AW hadn’t done anything. You can still communicate with punters to arrange and get their details off the emails. Then book on paper.
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Adultwork want to collect their fees. Worse than pimps.
Right from the start when the banner went up girls have clearly stated on their profiles they are working, business as usual etc. Have they closed them down no. Adultwork are full of it!
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from the sounds of things - pubs and hotels are going to be open in 2 weeks and social distancing end. so expect some news this coming week from the government.
and aw cannot stop you from working its a platform and we also pay use certain features on it.
just get their phone number or email and conduct communication off their platform.
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Hi guys :) I started back, Decided I had to financially and also I missed the thrill and the escorting part of my life. Neighbours are having people over. I think most people are over the virus and lockdown scare, Going by how much more busy the towns are now. I've stayed away from rushing to crowd into the shops this week.
I will book up a serviced apartments for next month is its allowed.
I haven't officially said I'm back on AW but tested the waters with Vivastreet and within a few hours loads of interest, 40% TW, Many of those after 12 been partying calls which I ignore because I'm asleep.
I'm still doing close contact because I can't do with masks and no kissing.
Anyway I feel more like the old me and I feel happier, Was really nervous to start back but it's all been good.
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I don't see how massage and happy ending is any less risky than the usual range of services.
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IMPORTANT: Boris Johnson has just announced that IN ENGLAND* hotels, hairdressers, pubs and so on can open from 4th July as long as they can stick to social distancing at 1+ metre and use protective equipment. All visitors to these businesses will have to give their names and addresses in order to help with the track and trace effort.
HOWEVER. He specifically stated that "close contact" businesses such as nightclubs, spas, indoor soft play areas, indoor gyms etc CANNOT reopen yet, which means that as escorting/sex work meetings are close (very close!) contact, we still cannot legally start taking appointments yet.
*Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland all have their own rules & laws
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Thats great news, I think from July 4th most if not all of us will be able to work at the rate things are going, I would expect to hear more next week.
One thing confuses me though, to get my roots done, my hairdresser will have to be right on top of me, she cant do it from a 1 meter distance. As a dominatrix, I can do plenty with the 1 meter gap, and wear PPE if needed, and yet I cant work, even one client a day.
Several local massage places near me, the non sexual ones are already taking appointments from July 4th blatently on their websites.
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Yea I don't understand why its ok for hairdressers to open but not nail bars, if I've understood the new system correctly. Whats the major difference?? And yea, escorting is close contact but usually one on one, pubs are inebriated people in groups in a confined space (officially only allowed to socialize with a set amount of people, but how is that going to be policed in dens of iniquity?). Its hard to not continue earning my living whilst others are permitted their recreations. And seeing as sex workers aren't officially on the list of occupations that aren't allowed to operate (although of course I understand its meant to be inferred that we are - us that cannot be mentioned in polite administrations) I'll nonetheless brandish said list if the police ever show up at my whore door. Not that I imagine they will, in any case.
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For ladies who are currently working how are you managing ?
Are you going to clients homes or are they visiting you
Had you put different procedures of your own in place ?
I will start up after hairdresser gets me looking decent again
I don't live with anyone so can take guys bookings @ home I don't offer outcalls. I had a negative test after April.
I don't see many clients usually so will just prioritise the ones who bothered to send sensible messages during lockdown not asking for bookings during pandemic !
I'm starting to send my mobile number now
I've no idea what aw will be doing what their rules will be after July
Thanks for your advice if you can let me know either in the topic or DM me please
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The GUM clinics being open is another factor to consider - mine still doesn't have walk-in appointments AFAIK, and I'm not sure how many booked slots are available.
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Hi guys :) I started back, Decided I had to financially and also I missed the thrill and the escorting part of my life. Neighbours are having people over. I think most people are over the virus and lockdown scare, Going by how much more busy the towns are now. I've stayed away from rushing to crowd into the shops this week.
I will book up a serviced apartments for next month is its allowed.
I haven't officially said I'm back on AW but tested the waters with Vivastreet and within a few hours loads of interest, 40% TW, Many of those after 12 been partying calls which I ignore because I'm asleep.
I'm still doing close contact because I can't do with masks and no kissing.
Anyway I feel more like the old me and I feel happier, Was really nervous to start back but it's all been good.
I returned two weeks ago and it is a relief to say the least and I have put plans in place if a second wave comes.
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On the news it said the difference between a hairdresser and something like beauty theraphy is beauty theraphy is more face to face contact and droplets etc are more likely to be shared. Made sense to me sort of hair dressers usually stay around the back of a person. Also they can both wear masks. I really want to get my nails, eyebrow be eyelashes done. But looks like I can get a hair cut sort of confusing. Also no shoyo workers and hardly anyone on trains wears a mask here so I'm confused. Tbh I think not many are following social distancing or masks. But I think you'd have a higher chance of getting it from kissing. I think you need to weigh up risk. I am personally. I hope to start again in a week or two.
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Thats great news, I think from July 4th most if not all of us will be able to work at the rate things are going, I would expect to hear more next week.
One thing confuses me though, to get my roots done, my hairdresser will have to be right on top of me, she cant do it from a 1 meter distance. As a dominatrix, I can do plenty with the 1 meter gap, and wear PPE if needed, and yet I cant work, even one client a day.
Several local massage places near me, the non sexual ones are already taking appointments from July 4th blatently on their websites.
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We will need a list of serviced apartments that are workable on here .... From others' experience. I haven't tried them yet.
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On the news it said the difference between a hairdresser and something like beauty theraphy is beauty theraphy is more face to face contact and droplets etc are more likely to be shared. Made sense to me sort of hair dressers usually stay around the back of a person. Also they can both wear masks. I really want to get my nails, eyebrow be eyelashes done. But looks like I can get a hair cut sort of confusing. Also no shoyo workers and hardly anyone on trains wears a mask here so I'm confused. Tbh I think not many are following social distancing or masks. But I think you'd have a higher chance of getting it from kissing. I think you need to weigh up risk. I am personally. I hope to start again in a week or two.
The nail girl can easily do the nails from behind a screen. I’ve even seen some doing it through the door!
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I think for those Escorts that work from hotels hotels will be unworkable for the future
I disagree, hotels need business, tourists and lots of people in order to survive. they cannot be furloughed for too long. I believe that with the 2 week travelling quarantine (of people coming into the UK), the present "fear of catching the virus" and the public having to cut costs hotels will take a little while to go back to normal. It's going to be a slow process. Of course this is going to affect the touring escort ( just like it's affecting my local coffeshop or my regular chiropractor). All the businesses that involve physical presence of clients are hurting right now, and the escort industry is just another business that requires physical presence of clients. I believe things will go slowly back to normal in september, but it's going to be a "steep climb" and not all will be able to survive it I'm afraid.
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I’m not even sure the hotels will keep up with the whole giving names in thing. It’s probably going to be like most other things, at first they will man the doors like Buckingham palace but give it a week and they’ll start to relax. I can’t wait for the 4th so I can do a drive around of my favourite haunts and see what the script is. Gyms being closed is a bit of a fucker cause that’s even less traffic
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The nail girl can easily do the nails from behind a screen. I’ve even seen some doing it through the door!
Yea. And given they are opening pubs for some reason, it all seems a bit academic. All of this is super arbitrary notwithstanding the ‘what the hell are the rules on us sex workers???’ ???
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I will be taking kissing off the menu !
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I disagree, hotels need business, tourists and lots of people in order to survive. they cannot be furloughed for too long. I believe that with the 2 week travelling quarantine (of people coming into the UK), the present "fear of catching the virus" and the public having to cut costs hotels will take a little while to go back to normal. It's going to be a slow process. Of course this is going to affect the touring escort ( just like it's affecting my local coffeshop or my regular chiropractor). All the businesses that involve physical presence of clients are hurting right now, and the escort industry is just another business that requires physical presence of clients. I believe things will go slowly back to normal in september, but it's going to be a "steep climb" and not all will be able to survive it I'm afraid.
They do need the business, but I think the issues are as RB1 states - they may be OK with normal guests, but not loads of people tramping through the hotel and visiting rooms at random.
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I will be taking kissing off the menu !
Removing kissing will not stop you catching the virus. Regardless if you kiss or not means nothing in catching it. Its basically the proximity of distance which affects your chances in catching it and as our work involves intimate close counters means the likelihood of catching the virus is highly increased.
I'm going to stop my 15 min quickies and only see clients an hour or longer to keep to my baseline of £1350 earnings per week. X
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Hi and so I had my first week back to work and actually feel shattered and was very busy, My regulars all wanted to book and my phone was very busy. Still got the usual time wasters or odd ones. It really felt great to earn some money and get back into the saddle lol. But the worry of neighbours seeing guys come and go was heavy on my mind. I asked my regulars to carry a briefcase or clipboard lol I limited it to 3 a day , 2 day and one evening and with that heat I just did evening.
Sounds like hotels will be difficult, I want to book a serviced apartments because working from my flat feels more risky now with all the covid rules.
I gave services as usual, French kissing too. I have been in lockdown 3 months prior.
But I do feel very nervous with others watching my home as more people are home.
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I wondered how providers that just do domination are finding it, or are planning on going back soon? I am really confused as to what to do, session wise there is plenty I can do with the required social distancing coming down to 1 metre.
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I wondered how providers that just do domination are finding it, or are planning on going back soon? I am really confused as to what to do, session wise there is plenty I can do with the required social distancing coming down to 1 metre.
I'm a domme, things have been on the quieter side of normal since I got back. You know, like every week is like the last week of the month. Some guys are asking for more distance services like voyeurism but in the main they want things as normal. My personal feeling is once I'm stuck in a room with someone for an hour plus, my transmission risk is already high and so I don't make any special measures and I do offer more sensual domination, but as you say you could offer the more distant stuff only. You might find it different but because I'm more a sensual domme if I didn't offer these things my client numbers would not be at the quiet end of normal, it'd be dead.
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Thanks for the reply burly burlesque, you have confirmed what I thought, I think later in July when more things open it should get busier hopefully. I can see more ladies who are opening around July 4th.
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things have been on the quieter side of normal since I got back. You know, like every week is like the last week of the month.
Same thing here.
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Very busy here, first week back has been flooded with calls and messages. Might as well make the most of it as I imagine the business will go quiet towards the end of year following that huge COVID-19 overreaction and resulting economy being in tatters thanks to that, the scaremongering about the “second wave” and punters being more careful with money.
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I worked last Friday morning with available today showing. I just saw one person for an hour but I had so many calls which was very heartening.
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I'm worried about the fact that hotels are only allowing 2 people to share a room if they are from.the same household. How to get around that one??
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I'm worried about the fact that hotels are only allowing 2 people to share a room if they are from.the same household. How to get around that one??
Which hotels are saying that, not yet seen it on the websites I've checked - and how would they prove it?
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So if that were the rule would they definitely state it on their website (the hotels)?.
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I phoned 2 hotels up this morning and asked 1) can we book this weekend (one said no as they still have to accept key workers above others...the other said yes) and 2) do the couple on one room have to be from same household (both hotels said yes following government guidelines). So....we need to think how to solve this problem methinks...
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I guess the hotels may ask for proof of address of anyone entering etc and check ... do you think this is going to be an issue?
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I guess the hotels may ask for proof of address of anyone entering etc and check ... do you think this is going to be an issue?
If you don't mention it when booking they may not ask, it may be (I'm hoping) a stock answer they have to give when asked. All the information I've seen says they want to minimise contact with guests by requesting online check in, or only 1 person from each booking going to the desk. I could be wrong but I would guess they probably won't be asking for proof of address, and how would this be done?
Passports don't have addresses, a lot of people don't have driving licenses. Bring a bill?
Might be a disclaimer to tick such as 'all guests are from same household', also what about bubbles?
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I worked at strip clubs in the last recession. Used to make loads. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much. They always find a way to get the cash if they want to see you.
Hey, do you mean the 2008 crisis?
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Anymore ladies started working yet?
I am going for Monday fingers crossed!
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Anymore ladies started working yet?
I am going for Monday fingers crossed!
Im in Watford. Saw 4 clients yesterday and a further 4 today. Very happy with that
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Hi,
Am in London,central London,Earls court area and it is very quiet. Very few calls, even chat on the phone via Aw very quiet. Did not see any of my regulars yet.
Would like some feedback from other girls working in central London.
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Strewth! Just when you though it was legal-ish to work. Now coming, possible micro lockdowns. Leicester is the first including Covid cases in their monster walkers crisps factory and a Mcvities bakery. I'm having snack anxiety sweats right now. 36 others places on the iffy list.
Poor response today I'm in central London, handful of texts which I ignore and a couple of weak calls I didn't care for. Am only advertising Wednesday and Thursday for now.
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Anymore ladies started working yet?
I am going for Monday fingers crossed!
Quiet here in the Cotswolds. Big increase in Timewasters and so on.
However I'm only seeing a couple of guys a week as I don't feel comfortable seeing any more right now, even though I really need the money. Also got some restrictions in place. Both these are to try and minimise risk as much as possible.
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I returned three weeks ago and wish I hadn't stopped in March. I will be working through if there is a 2nd spike.
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Hi,
Am in London,central London,Earls court area and it is very quiet. Very few calls, even chat on the phone via Aw very quiet. Did not see any of my regulars yet.
Would like some feedback from other girls working in central London.
I'm in Farringdon/the city. Pre-lockdown I was super busy. I'm back to full time now and full blown advertising but only getting a third of the clients I used to. I've been told by my city clients that companies are going to have their employees working from home till september, which totally makes sense as my area (normally very busy with office workers and financial types) is a total desert. Like someone said above it feels like it's "end of the month" every week. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping a gradual back to normal in September.
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Also in the City but a bit further down :D
I haven't got all-guns-blazing ads up as I'm limiting volume, but it's ticking over OK here and I've noticed the shops nearby are getting a little busier every week around lunchtime. More and more places are opening back up next week and the construction workers have never stopped throughout - I've seen plenty. I cut through Leadenhall Market the other afternoon at 5.30ish and there were groups of City workers standing around with beers like any other week (just not as many) and ditto Borough Market this afternoon.
I think Salty mentioned it earlier, but there are shitloads of tourists too - I've had a couple through the door. I don't know whether they've just arrived or been stuck here for ages, but even outside the Tower there are groups of them hanging about taking pictures and it's been shut for months. Plus a significant proportion of punters I've seen have been key workers of one sort or another :).
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Thinking of going back tomorrow but not 100% sure if it'll be worth it are there any other ladies starting up again tomorrow?
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Thinking of going back tomorrow but not 100% sure if it'll be worth it are there any other ladies starting up again tomorrow?
I'll be displaying my phone number on AW but expecting those who do contact me to be complete timewasters ::)
I think it'll be a very long time before I get any normality back. It may be different in different areas, but I have a lot of timewasters call from AW anyway ::)
Vivastreet I'm not going to bother with until they remove the blurred out services, or I'll have have a lot of morons phoning to ask what services I do and then I'll have to spend time spelling everything out.
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I did my first week a week ago and I was busy with regulars and my phone was busy but also got the time wasters and have loads of numbers to avoid in the future. I put a ad on vivastreet and found it was worth it, I Normally only use Adultwork but find I get a few new regulars from viva as some guys don't actually know about AW and often older gents.
Going to do this coming week and will see how it goes, Think unless I get regulars or repeat work then it may be hit or miss. Putting ad up on viva and fingers crossed not to many time wasters , Think I got all of those already the first time I put my number up.l
Not going to do 30 min bookings unless its quiet, Limiting visits too so might put up my rates a bit. Was great to earn some and money.
Great to know if anyone is now using serviced apartments of hotels with success.
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I'm mostly outcall only so I don't think things will be picking up anytime soon. I am thinking about booking hotels once or twice a month but using the time to shoot content rather than see clients. It would be good if I could see one to at least cover my costs but not even sure if that will be feasible
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As predicted, put my number on AW and 5 minutes later get a silent call >:( Nothing since then. I'd rather just be quiet than have loads of knobs on the phone.
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I'll be displaying my phone number on AW but expecting those who do contact me to be complete timewasters ::)
I think it'll be a very long time before I get any normality back. It may be different in different areas, but I have a lot of timewasters call from AW anyway ::)
Vivastreet I'm not going to bother with until they remove the blurred out services, or I'll have have a lot of morons phoning to ask what services I do and then I'll have to spend time spelling everything out.
I tried Vivastreet recently. Absolute bloody nightmare.
You can't mention anything whatsoever pertaining to meetings, services or rates, though they are happy to take your money then immediately disable your Ad for some teeny innocent transgression.
I had 7 days of my phone ringing off the hook, many of them wanting carmeets. :FF
Awful. Not touching it again unless they change these rules.
Adultwork keeps me going but yes, I am getting far too many guys not bothering to read my Ad for details.
I have just had, "Sorry, no I didn't read it as I am driving" ::) (he was, it sounded like an HGV too :-\)
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I tried Vivastreet recently. Absolute bloody nightmare.
You can't mention anything whatsoever pertaining to meetings, services or rates, though they are happy to take your money then immediately disable your Ad for some teeny innocent transgression.
I had 7 days of my phone ringing off the hook, many of them wanting carmeets. :FF
Awful. Not touching it again unless they change these rules.
Adultwork keeps me going but yes, I am getting far too many guys not bothering to read my Ad for details.
I have just had, "Sorry, no I didn't read it as I am driving" ::) (he was, it sounded like an HGV too :-\)
Sounds like perfectly normal VS punters to me...wots not to like. :-X
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I find VS to be really good. It's AW that's full of TW's! :FF
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I have had SO many more timewasters, also, has anyone noticed people coming back and asking you for things you don't do as if because of Covid you would have changed your mind?
I have had a few people trying to low key me into being their text girlfriend too. Like I give a toss about the painting of the kitchen, ffs! :FF
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I am not entitled to any government scheme and so since March I have had no income apart for a job in Amazon warehouse where they screwed me around more than any client
So plank g to start working again, maybe try just doing BDSM Stuf at first, got a booking tomorroe
Yet I feel apprehensive
Has anyone gone back to work.
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Some escorts never stopped.
I may have my first booking later this week - I'll be doing one or two a week max, and only 1 and 1.5 hours.
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I'm one of those escorts who never stopped. Low risk area and couldn't afford not to.
I think if you're low risk, not in contact with vulnerable people and careful. You should be fine
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Hi pep and I started back two weeks ago and was busy but also plenty of time wasters. I checked that those I saw felt well and had not been around anyone with symptoms. I still kissed, Didn't bother with a mask. Was suppose to work this week but feel rubbish. Had a fever, Sore throat and now loss of smell and taste so I may have caught covid the symptoms check out. With a cold I don't get a fever and aching legs normally and I'm not bunged up enough for my loss of smell and taste to be down to a bad head cold.
But I could of got this from going shopping not necessarily from going back to work. But now I have to isolate and can't get a test either so will never be 100% sure. So during these times there is no way to just say it's a nasty cold or another virus. But Feb last year I had a chronic cough that lasted a month and the same in December.
So now I won't work and feel fed up but I did make enough money to pay my rent and Bill's and if I think that now with more people out I would eventually catch it. So I don't regret going back to work. Just now I need to stay away from people and family.
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Hi pep and I started back two weeks ago and was busy but also plenty of time wasters. I checked that those I saw felt well and had not been around anyone with symptoms. I still kissed, Didn't bother with a mask. Was suppose to work this week but feel rubbish. Had a fever, Sore throat and now loss of smell and taste so I may have caught covid the symptoms check out. With a cold I don't get a fever and aching legs normally and I'm not bunged up enough for my loss of smell and taste to be down to a bad head cold.
But I could of got this from going shopping not necessarily from going back to work. But now I have to isolate and can't get a test either so will never be 100% sure. So during these times there is no way to just say it's a nasty cold or another virus. But Feb last year I had a chronic cough that lasted a month and the same in December.
So now I won't work and feel fed up but I did make enough money to pay my rent and Bill's and if I think that now with more people out I would eventually catch it. So I don't regret going back to work. Just now I need to stay away from people and family.
Why can't you get a test? I'd have to check but I thought once you reported your symptoms the test/trace people would send you one?
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Friend tell me she had symptoms and rang 111 and was told to isolate for 14 days. Wasn't offered test or anything.
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As I promised earlier, the gov/NHS info about testing:
"Anyone who has symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19) can get a free test to check if they have the virus. Some people without symptoms can have the test too."
https://www.nhs .uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/get-an-antigen-test-to-check-if-you-have-coronavirus/ (REMOVE SPACE AFTER 'NHS')
Scroll down that page to get to the bit where you apply for/order a test. "This service is for everyone."
So yes, you, me, we are all entitled to a test. Just need to ask for it.
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Surely it is only one in 1700 chance of catching corona. So why has somebody written that they would eventually catch it? I dispute this.
Then again I only see a handful of clients weekly and right now nobody until September. I will be checking their occupation and their lifestyle a bit before agreeing to see them.
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Surely it is only one in 1700 chance of catching corona.
Leaving aside the fact that 87.3% of statistics are bollocks ;D, even the above doesn't mean that you can snog 1699 punters before you catch anything. The first person through the door could be contagious or none of them at all (and you could then catch it in Tesco Express on the way home anyway, assuming you're not one of the vast number of people who've had CV19 without knowing it).
One post so bizarre and bereft of critical thinking it went beyond off topic removed. Lets stick with sex work, please :).
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Has anyone attempted working in hotels yet? I can only tour or do outcalls, but really need to get back to work soon :(
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There's an update coming up on BBC any minute, for anybody who happens to be near a TV
because they thought Pointless was on.
I don't know if anything about when we/close contact businesses can work again is part of it but it you never know :).
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Tattoo parlours can open, as can beauty salons, spas and tanning salons from Monday. Cant see anything about massage, but I assume that will be OK, as they are saying as long as treatments are not done on the face it is allowed. Locally the chinese massage parlours have been blatently open for a while with no issues.
I will take this as a green light to open up again
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Friend tell me she had symptoms and rang 111 and was told to isolate for 14 days. Wasn't offered test or anything.
When was this. I know some months ago this was procedure, however it's changed.
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Tattoo parlours can open, as can beauty salons, spas and tanning salons from Monday. Cant see anything about massage, but I assume that will be OK, as they are saying as long as treatments are not done on the face it is allowed. Locally the chinese massage parlours have been blatently open for a while with no issues.
I will take this as a green light to open up again
There was also something about people in high risk jobs being able to access tests if they wanted them - I can't find out anything further about it yet, but I can't imagine that sex work wouldn't qualify. It's probably worth some digging around in the next few days - maybe somebody at one of the projects would know.
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Indoor Gym and Swimming Pools will open from 25th July.
More traffic to hotels so doing incalls will not be an issue.
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Yes I've just read this--
Beauticians, tattooists, spas, tanning salons, and other close contact services can reopen from Monday 13 July in England.
Let's hope it means us ha!
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Indoor Gym and Swimming Pools will open from 25th July.
More traffic to hotels so doing incalls will not be an issue.
Plus the 15 day travelling quarantine to the UK ends tomorrow, tourism is back! which means a big influx of people slowly coming back to the hotels in the next couple of weeks which is good news.
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Hopefully AW and VS will take their warnings off now.
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When was this. I know some months ago this was procedure, however it's changed.
It a while back, like you say maybe things changed.
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I got a free test from a NHS Gov website and will post tomorrow, I'm sure I just have the usual cold virus. Those in my bubble have been around me for 2 months and no signs of them having what I have. But will see with the test but for me it's just a peace of mind and a feeling that it's my duty to test. When I feel better I will work again end of the month.
I think that the way things are just makes us a bit more paranoid.
I have my beautician appointment for the 14 th for profhilo, Hate the pain but can't wait to have a nice glow.
But has anyone else seen a slow in AW views and private gallery sales, I have seen it slowing this week. But I also upped my rates.
I understand that money might be tight right now for punters so I think I will lower my rates, In my area 150 is about right for the English girls and that's just an observation and not a invitation for a discussion on nationality and pricing or price shaming for higher than whatever. I just wanted to know if anyone feels the recent situation with financial loss from lickdown might mean a change in prices.
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I just wanted to know if anyone feels the recent situation with financial loss from lickdown might mean a change in prices.
Already done to death several times over in this thread (https://saafe.info/main/blather-and-babble/what-if-anything-will-you-change/). I'm neither English nor a 'girl' (and I don't really understand why you brought it up, tbh), but yes, the thread really doesn't need to be derailed with the usual cobblers that comes with these comments, so let's move on before it does :)
I don't check AW views (although I just remembered that there's that graph thing you can click on now) and I don't bother much with the pay gallery either, but I haven't really noticed much difference? The days I always noticed getting very few views were weekends but I'm pretty sure that's partly my location and partly because I don't show a mobile number then, not anything else. Some punters will have less money, some will have more and plenty will be about the same - I suspect it's the uncertainty that will do the real harm and the people just trying to get started will likely bear the brunt of it :(
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I just wanted to know if anyone feels the recent situation with financial loss from lickdown might mean a change in prices.
I remember having been on lockdown, lucky you for being on "lickdown", sounds like so much more fun. ;D
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Hopefully AW and VS will take their warnings off now.
They both seem to not be following or reading the update of the GOV uk site rules. Below I copied and pasted what is on the updated rules from Gov
And from 25 July:
sports facilities and venues, including such as indoor gyms, fitness and dance studios, indoor swimming pools and indoor water parks, will open – subject to evidence closer to the time
As was already the case, in terms of seeing friends and family, you can:
meet in groups of up to two households (anyone in your support bubble counts as one household) in any location - public or private, indoors or outdoors. You do not always have to meet with the same household - you can meet with different households at different times. However, it remains the case - even inside someone’s home - that you should socially distance from anyone not in your household or bubble. This change also does not affect the support you receive from your carers
continue to meet outdoors in groups of up to six people from different households, following social distancing guidelines
stay overnight away from your home with your own household or support bubble, or with members of one other household
So they aw and viva should update and remove the statement in allowing meets.
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Hi DD. May e they are waiting for someone to make the first move haha. I can't see what else they are waiting for, unless they are expecting an announcement about sex workers being allowed back. 😁
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They both seem to not be following or reading the update of the GOV uk site rules. Below I copied and pasted what is on the updated rules from Gov
And from 25 July:
sports facilities and venues, including such as indoor gyms, fitness and dance studios, indoor swimming pools and indoor water parks, will open – subject to evidence closer to the time
As was already the case, in terms of seeing friends and family, you can:
meet in groups of up to two households (anyone in your support bubble counts as one household) in any location - public or private, indoors or outdoors. You do not always have to meet with the same household - you can meet with different households at different times. However, it remains the case - even inside someone’s home - that you should socially distance from anyone not in your household or bubble. This change also does not affect the support you receive from your carers
continue to meet outdoors in groups of up to six people from different households, following social distancing guidelines
stay overnight away from your home with your own household or support bubble, or with members of one other household
So they aw and viva should update and remove the statement in allowing meets.
I don't agree. You have quoted the personal/social rules, whereas we are businesses. It's not like we're popping round to a boyfriend's house for the night, or visiting grandchildren. For example: massage parlours and beauty therapists etc cannot do treatments on the face, plus they have to wear PPE for treatments and stick to strict hygiene guidelines, distancing rules in premises, taking customers' details etc. That's basically what we would need to do for in-person personal meets now to stay on the right side of the law. How will you keep clients' personal records? Kissing is off the menu as that's on the face, as are BJs and similar. No face-to-face positions.
I would think AW and VS will remove the notices once it's clear people can get intimately close to each other within the gov guidelines. I may be wrong, it may be sooner. They might be getting info direct from the government. It's not really stopping the most hungry/stupid guys contacting ladies anyway.
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I don't agree. You have quoted the personal/social rules, whereas we are businesses. It's not like we're popping round to a boyfriend's house for the night, or visiting grandchildren. For example: massage parlours and beauty therapists etc cannot do treatments on the face, plus they have to wear PPE for treatments and stick to strict hygiene guidelines, distancing rules in premises, taking customers' details etc. That's basically what we would need to do for in-person personal meets now to stay on the right side of the law. How will you keep clients' personal records? Kissing is off the menu as that's on the face, as are BJs and similar. No face-to-face positions.
I would think AW and VS will remove the notices once it's clear people can get intimately close to each other within the gov guidelines. I may be wrong, it may be sooner. They might be getting info direct from the government. It's not really stopping the most hungry/stupid guys contacting ladies anyway.
It's not stopping the other directories, nor the Sport from carrying adverts the latter without even asking for consent. ??? :-\
AW take income from their online services, they are still selling Escort features so swings and roundabouts?
The problem is now AW and VS can decide when to restore full facilities.
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It's not stopping the other directories, nor the Sport from carrying adverts the latter without even asking for consent. ??? :-\
No, I know, but the fact is that currently AW and VS are carrying a message and/or stopping bookings being logged through the site(s), and *potentially* are following gov's business guidelines, maybe even receiving up-to-date advice direct from the government themselves. They're certainly not (or at least shouldn't be) following the personal/social guidelines (ie how many non-household members to have at a family BBQ etc) as these are not relevant to any business or self employed worker.
AW take income from their online services, they are still selling Escort features so swings and roundabouts?
Yep - We can still pay for Escort features to get more exposure, and even though the bookings system is disabled and the notice on profiles is there, guys can still contact us and we can still arrange to meet them. That hasn't stopped at all.
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Hi, what are your predictions about the later part of this year? I am starting to get concerned the business will dry up along with job losses and pay cuts.
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Hi, what are your predictions about the later part of this year? I am starting to get concerned the business will dry up along with job losses and pay cuts.
I’m paying what I need to pay with a couple of treats but stashing the rest so I can top my savings up and have a better cushion.
Gone are my days of heading to the retail and blowing a weeks money without a thought.. at least until this blows over anyway.
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I’m paying what I need to pay with a couple of treats but stashing the rest so I can top my savings up and have a better cushion.
Gone are my days of heading to the retail and blowing a weeks money without a thought.. at least until this blows over anyway.
I'm the same. I'm saving. I bet a lot of people across different jobs are doing the same - this has been a lesson for me.
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It's brought out many more phone calls, but no real work. The usual suspects are feeling a little more justified trying to knock you down to nothing, because they're on furlough.
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Anybody else getting those despicable clients who are trying to use a global pandemic and hardship for many people as an excuse to haggle your prices. I had a man the other day ask me if €100 was the best I could do for a half hour. I said my prices are non negotiable. He proceeded to tell me Covid has resulted in a financial crisis and people are struggling financially and said I should be lowering my prices. Take into account this man is a manager in a Tesco and grocery retail has not been affected whatsoever by Covid as all supermarkets have been open as normal since day one. Supermarkets are probably even doing much better because of Covid and impulse buying etc..What disgusts me is how low you have to be to use other people’s hardships as a form of validating asking me for a discount when you’re unaffected. Covid has claimed many lives as well as livelihoods and you’re trying to use it to your advantage to get a discount. Fuck off mate, blocked.
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Phone is going mad with everyone and his dad calling. I have put it on silent.
It's not surprising they are not translating into bookings because what I've noticed about younger clients who punt, they don't have a lot of sex.
The randy over 40s may be phoning but I suspect they are waiting to be vaccinated first cus they want to live a few more years. Many 18 year olds to French kiss still! Thankfully some genuine randy buggers willing to risk it.
These people really need to be sent back to work.
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My first corinovirus client gone bad ! I've been seeing 4 years and pays well. He rung twice fantasising about girl on girl and black men for him to voyeur. He usually books and gets on with it. he's probably having a little wank but I let it slip. Then 3rd call says what's your best price. Same as the past 4 years. It's a pandemic he says...people aren't working.i should charge you more then.big silence. I put the phone down and block.for fucking ever
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SS my experience when I ban regs is they soon come back, tails between their legs. I let them sweat by ignoring them until they catch me on a quiet day and they are usually really apologetic. Although I have placed lifetime bans on several. 😁
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My first corinovirus client gone bad ! I've been seeing 4 years and pays well. He rung twice fantasising about girl on girl and black men for him to voyeur. He usually books and gets on with it. he's probably having a little wank but I let it slip. Then 3rd call says what's your best price. Same as the past 4 years. It's a pandemic he says...people aren't working.i put the phone down and block.for fucking ever
Oh no! ???
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Thanks Amy I'm still insulted! He never stays the full hour and no sex and jerks imself off but it feels like six hours. He's one of these hyper ones. banned him for being too intense already, those cat lives are running out. :) I may fine him severely.
Yes Ana corinovirus haggling is spreading like an ass rash!
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I think due to corona clients are prone to act out of character.
For bookings about 3 clients spoke about the media during bookings, other than that bookings are doing well. I think by the time they get an opportunity to phone me they have sieved through my screening process.
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Anyone know if it is OK to advertise on adultwork that you are back to work? I am worried about getting banned?
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I've been fine. It's a public information notice and not being policed.There's 8 pages of girls doing that in my area the last 4 weeks-all back to normal levels.
I think due to corona clients are prone to act out of character.
So right Emma! The blooming cheek. I forgot his killer blow was 'The chancellor's cut VAT :P !.
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Yeah, I have had a few 'what's your best price?' and 'what can you do for me?' thrown around recently. Also a LOT of people asking me to travel to Timbloodybuctu for an hour.....
They definitely acting weird. I am NOT in the mood right now. I am PMT-ing like crazy and I just want wine and effin chocolate so they better not tax me today.
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Anyone know if it is OK to advertise on adultwork that you are back to work? I am worried about getting banned?
God it’s always been okay as in they have still taken the money from number showing, at first lockdown stage then I didn’t realise my number was up but I got an influx of calls about my ad on AW and I went in to take the number down and realised that they had still been taking £1 off my credits to show it, they had the ad there for legal reasons no doubt but they can’t stop anyone meeting, ultimately if they were that bothered then they would have temporarily closed the number showing facilities down, or closed the offering of sexual service meets down. You have nothing to worry about with AW.
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As far as I am aware it's only VS who took down adverts offering meets, however many profiles were very obviously not looking webcam or phone customers.
AW simply posted advice notices and closed the booking system.
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I hope adult wok starts using the booking system again soon
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Anyone know if it is OK to advertise on adultwork that you are back to work? I am worried about getting banned?
I’ve been advertising for a month now and never been banned, also you don’t need the booking system to sort your bookings out
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In a way it is better without the booking system.
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In a way it is better without the booking system.
I agree. No more worrying about random booking requests being forced through and the unsolicited feedback from idiots you've never met
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I came back a few weeks ago and it's pretty steady but rather annoying that all the regs that were texting during lockdown asking how I was doing haven't actually made a booking now that they can ???
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I came back a few weeks ago and it's pretty steady but rather annoying that all the regs that were texting during lockdown asking how I was doing haven't actually made a booking now that they can ???
Funny I thought it was just me. Received endless messages from regs asking when are you back. Now I am most have vanished!
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Anyone else getting pure timewasters right now? Five days straight.
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Yeah, I have had a few 'what's your best price?' and 'what can you do for me?' thrown around recently. Also a LOT of people asking me to travel to Timbloodybuctu for an hour.....
They definitely acting weird. I am NOT in the mood right now. I am PMT-ing like crazy and I just want wine and effin chocolate so they better not tax me today.
I just hang up and block immediately.
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In a way it is better without the booking system.
Lol I've never used the booking system because they can leave reviews if you do it that way. It's also generally faster for them to just phone you. In general I don't understand why anyone uses the AW message system, my phone number is right there, anyone messaging me instead just wants to chat.
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I don't understand why things have gone dead again? Things were improving in May/June
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I don't understand why things have gone dead again? Things were improving in May/June
Might be the slight rise in Covid cases or just part of the usual ebb and flow. I'm easily getting my four a day three times a week but it could change for me too.
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August is historically quite dead. Infections on the increase may be putting punters off.
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Am not expecting anything for August, although I do have one scheduled. September and October are looking good, although am very aware a second lockdown could disrupt this.
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At the moment i do not think CV is really affecting bookings unless you are in a area where the commuters are not there as there at home.
Since being back seeing some clients none of them seem bothered by CV but the crazy thing is a few have said i been really careful but then looking shocked at me insisting on hand sanitizer on arrival and then asking do you do deep french kissing?. Nobody has been bothered who i have seen and considering i have been trying to be a bit careful not getting right near there face plenty have had no problem heavy breathing and panting all over me. There is no respect from them in these serious times.
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AW has updated changed their header statement to the following
Coronavirus (COVID-19)
Social distancing is a requirement of all UK citizens. More information on what you are permitted to do under the current conditions can be found on the Government's Website. (more info.)
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The only good thing is a couple of guys i did see absolutely stunk, there breathe was awful i had to hold my breathe myself to not smell them i felt really sick. One made me laugh saying i have been washing a lot my hands etc in CV times and told me he had just got out of shower when i pulled his foreskin down there had been no washing there, it smelt and had traces of white bits left over, cum probably absolutely revolting but boasting about he just stepped out of the shower. Reminds me of 1 guy i saw last year who i told to have a quick shower door was slightly open and i saw him just standing there with water running and just putting his hands under so did not even want to wash and it noticed when he got on the bed.
They had no chance of me kissing them and CV came in handy for that. I would like to tell a lot of them there breathe really smells but problem is having to tell him is not great for trying to them get them hard and to cum after that. I have told a few though but it is awkward telling them if they seem nice and friendly.
I saw a couple of nice ones that smelt nice and was so grateful for them plus they were quite nice guys but. It is insane having to be grateful for nice smelling clients it should just be the norm.
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The only good thing is a couple of guys i did see absolutely stunk, there breathe was awful i had to hold my breathe myself to not smell them i felt really sick. One made me laugh saying i have been washing a lot my hands etc in CV times and told me he had just got out of shower when i pulled his foreskin down there had been no washing there, it smelt and had traces of white bits left over, cum probably absolutely revolting but boasting about he just stepped out of the shower. Reminds me of 1 guy i saw last year who i told to have a quick shower door was slightly open and i saw him just standing there with water running and just putting his hands under so did not even want to wash and it noticed when he got on the bed.
They had no chance of me kissing them and CV came in handy for that. I would like to tell a lot of them there breathe really smells but problem is having to tell him is not great for trying to them get them hard and to cum after that. I have told a few though but it is awkward telling them if they seem nice and friendly.
I saw a couple of nice ones that smelt nice and was so grateful for them plus they were quite nice guys but. It is insane having to be grateful for nice smelling clients it should just be the norm.
Once a guy turned up who had defecated in his pants. I smelled something weird and saw him hurriedly wiping his behind with tissue. Unbelievably he still wanted me to go ahead with the booking. I told him to get out.
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Am not expecting anything for August, although I do have one scheduled. September and October are looking good, although am very aware a second lockdown could disrupt this.
Are the public going to listen to a second lockdown? I doubt it.
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Once a guy turned up who had defecated in his pants. I smelled something weird and saw him hurriedly wiping his behind with tissue. Unbelievably he still wanted me to go ahead with the booking. I told him to get out.
Oh yes. Had some awful shitty experiences too with some. So many do a poop and do not not wipe themselves and you see it and smell it when you massage them plus they shower and some do not even wash there bum area. Maybe in Coronavirus times new rules need to be they where a nappy and get bleeched all over there body. Haha
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Are the public going to listen to a second lockdown? I doubt it.
It depends where one lives.
I live in the middle of zone 1/central London. It is dead, and huge swathes of the City remain dormant and nothing has really re-opened. I know many offices have told their employees to expect to wfh until early next year at the earliest. If there is a second lockdown, it will remain exactly how it is. A few of the men I see used to travel down to London regularly for work, that’s all been cancelled, indefinitely.
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It depends where one lives.
I live in the middle of zone 1/central London. It is dead, and huge swathes of the City remain dormant and nothing has really re-opened. I know many offices have told their employees to expect to wfh until early next year at the earliest. If there is a second lockdown, it will remain exactly how it is. A few of the men I see used to travel down to London regularly for work, that’s all been cancelled, indefinitely.
Hi neighbour! :D The city right now is just how you described it, however... I do have half of the clients saying their company will be returning them back to the officer septmber, the other half in christmas. I believe mid september things are going to start happening again in the city.
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Anyone else getting pure timewasters right now? Five days straight.
I swear I am going to lose my shit if they don't stop soon. I have had pure BS this whole damn week. Just getting ready for a job and *poof* he has deactivated. WTAF? :FF
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It depends where one lives.
I live in the middle of zone 1/central London. It is dead, and huge swathes of the City remain dormant and nothing has really re-opened. I know many offices have told their employees to expect to wfh until early next year at the earliest. If there is a second lockdown, it will remain exactly how it is. A few of the men I see used to travel down to London regularly for work, that’s all been cancelled, indefinitely.
Same! I had one hotel guy recently, he was cool but most have been home based types who are either infirm or older.
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At the moment i do not think CV is really affecting bookings unless you are in a area where the commuters are not there as there at home.
I'm not sure I agree, especially if you live near any of the major cities. Many office workers are being told to stay at home, and combined with the school holidays any men with a family will find it difficult to get out.
Google have said their employees will be working from home until at least January, and they are probably a good indicator.
Then on top there's the local lockdowns, as in the NW and Aberdeen at the moment.
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Yeah Kay i suppose it depends where you are and who can get out and who cannot. Quite a lot of people are still furloughed too.
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At the moment i do not think CV is really affecting bookings unless you are in a area where the commuters are not there as there at home.
;D yes indeed. That would be moi.
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;D yes indeed. That would be moi.
I feel for you. Such weird times now.
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At the moment i do not think CV is really affecting bookings unless you are in a area where the commuters are not there as there at home.
Let me disagree (if you don't mind that is). Besides the "impeding commuter" (like you say) we also have the "impeding international traveller", the plenty of paranoid-health concern people who are afraid of getting a massage/hair cut let alone frolicking in bed with a hooker, the plenty who have lost their jobs and those who are still employed but keep hearing in the news of the "an upcoming recession worse than 1929" and are being very cautious with money.
I wish this was just a problem of "impeding commuters" ???
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Ana probably should have said not for me just at the moment and a few others i know but that can also change very quickly. Depends a lot on where you work, what days you choose might be busier then others. Loads of factors.
I think a lot were sex starved from 3 months of a lot not working and some rushed back. I suppose there is going to be clients that are health conscious and staying away but ones that contact me have no problem with it but then switch it around men booking Sex workers in CV times will not be too fussed and they know we service other men so could be more at risk.
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It has 100% had an impact on bookings. My bookings have remained steady however the biggest thing I have noticed is if I get a cancellation a ready made replacement is not there so that entire slot has gone :'( Pre Covid I could always replace within 10-15 minutes.
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I'm not sure I agree, especially if you live near any of the major cities. Many office workers are being told to stay at home, and combined with the school holidays any men with a family will find it difficult to get out.
Or have anyone IN. One of my regulars appears to have one of his older teenage kids moved back with him for a while now and so, he is not available, it's a pity too because he is very predictable and very easy.
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Let me disagree (if you don't mind that is). Besides the "impeding commuter" (like you say) we also have the "impeding international traveller", the plenty of paranoid-health concern people who are afraid of getting a massage/hair cut let alone frolicking in bed with a hooker, the plenty who have lost their jobs and those who are still employed but keep hearing in the news of the "an upcoming recession worse than 1929" and are being very cautious with money.
I wish this was just a problem of "impeding commuters" ???
Most of the problem is media fearmongering.
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It’s a myriad of issues and wholly dependent on the kind of men you see. I am outcall only, and see men in hotels or at their homes. Many are married, and are now trapped working at home and aren’t able to disappear for an afternoon, whereas before when they were office based, they could. Easily. I do a lot of dinner dates too, mostly with men in London for work, but no-one is really travelling into London for work, or any other reason. As I’ve said in another thread, a lot of central London where I am is still closed for business, and I don’t see this changing massively.
July was fine, and have been able to meet in hotels with no problems. August is proving to be a non-starter and have written it off. September and October look busier, but even though I’ve quite a few confirmed, I am expecting them to be postponed. I only see a few men a month, and am finding this lull quite boring, although a nice opportunity to eat what I want!
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Today is extra dead, not even timewaster calls.
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Oh I must be the lucky one then lol ... Extra dead and a handful of timewasters thrown in for good measure!
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I feel for you. Such weird times now.
Thanks EG can't wait to get my groove on :)
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I've quit. I'm out.
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I don't know why people talk about a 'second lockdown'. Government has no plan for this again. There will be local lockdowns not national ones again.
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I don't know why people talk about a 'second lockdown'. Government has no plan for this again. There will be local lockdowns not national ones again.
I have 2 family members that work in admins side of NHS
Be in no doubt government are actively planning for 2nd wave in a big way
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I have 2 family members that work in admins side of NHS
Be in no doubt government are actively planning for 2nd wave in a big way
They definitely have to plan for it but I dont think anyone can predict a 2nd wave yet going by the numbers so far. I've saved some so if it happens, I'm happy to take time off. I sell on Amazon and eBay so I have some mo way coming in, but not enough for little luxuries but I'm working on that.
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I don't know why people talk about a 'second lockdown'. Government has no plan for this again. There will be local lockdowns not national ones again.
In truth nobody knows what the anticipated second wave will feel like. Yes the Government will be better prepared as we all are but if the R rate spirals out of control/goes significantly above 1 then be in no doubt we will face a second lockdown. Let us hope it does not come to that.
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I don't know why people talk about a 'second lockdown'. Government has no plan for this again. There will be local lockdowns not national ones again.
The reason why they have no plan for it is because they can't enforce it. Local lockdowns are a lot easier because police forces can be focused on a few areas. Also the towns not locked down will just blame that town as being their own fault for not socially distancing enough instead of realising that endless lockdowns are BS. Look forward to seeing local lockdowns being used as collective punishment for individual towns "not following the rules" for the foreseeable future.
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Back on topic, please. There are plenty of general news/chat boards for anybody who isn't long since bored shitless of pointlessly speculating about general quarantine/CV stuff :)
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I think bookings are picking up in such times is my experience.
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I swear I am going to lose my shit if they don't stop soon. I have had pure BS this whole damn week. Just getting ready for a job and *poof* he has deactivated. WTAF? :FF
After this happened to me I didn't get changed until they arrive it saved me much hassle.
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Hi yes I had my hospital appointment cancelled due to cv there preparing for a 2nd wave it's so quiet today it's like people can feel it subconsciously I do think they'll be a second wave soon.
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I am based just outside London, many of my clients work in central london/city and say they are not going back for many months, or are now going to be working from home several days of the working week permenantly, and doing maybe 2 in the office, this is why I am doing OK, as I am based local to where they live, I am not relying on commuters. I think it is all down to my location.
No one seems to be worried about coronavirus, and most of my clients dont even know anyone who has had it, so that does not seem to be an issue.
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I am based just outside London, many of my clients work in central london/city and say they are not going back for many months, or are now going to be working from home several days of the working week permenantly, and doing maybe 2 in the office, this is why I am doing OK, as I am based local to where they live, I am not relying on commuters. I think it is all down to my location.
I knew companies would push for permanent work from home. Employees think they're getting a deal while bosses get an excuse to send them work at 11pm. This is bad news for escorting as well if no-one is commuting ever again.
No one seems to be worried about coronavirus, and most of my clients dont even know anyone who has had it, so that does not seem to be an issue.
I have heard some say that they think it is overhyped.
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Just commenting on here after a long 14 day tour I’ve just done. I went all over central uk different city every 2 days. I was quite shocked no one mentioned corona virus. And a lot of the guys I saw were like electricians builders etc and they said they had never been busier work wise. I limited self to 3/4 jobs a day and most days this worked out fine.
Hygiene was also a shocker I had to actively tell most of them to go to the bathroom and wash their hands. This telling me that corona was not in their head. No one turned up with a mask on.
Now I’m sat at home thinking how odd it all was I assumed clients would be more cautious. Especially the ones with the wedding rings on!
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I have not seen 1 client concerned with Coronavirus. Plus the married guys ask for the more intimate services like kissing, we cannot be surprised though because if any were concerned i doubt they would book us especially as our job is got to be at the top for high risk and seeing how many men in a day or week.
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I have not seen 1 client concerned with Coronavirus. Plus the married guys ask for the more intimate services like kissing, we cannot be surprised though because if any were concerned i doubt they would book us especially as our job is got to be at the top for high risk and seeing how many men in a day or week.
Yes I suppose many have been without sex for so long over the lock down that they are just itching to jump into the sack with us. Perhaps the excitement of the first booking clouded them a bit on the hand washing who knows. It wasn’t as dead as I thought it would be that is the main positive.
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Same here, clients are not “that” concerned about CV, the only thing I get is not far from usual, as How many clients do you see a day like. August is usually the slowest month of the year, but I see a rush of clients who wants to see me before a possible 2nd wave. I do offer incalls and outcalls and I also saw an increase of old and country people wanting a “nice time” to forget about the CV. Also, many young guys who watched too much porn during the lockdown. Hopefully September will pick up but it is hard to work considering no money was made this year so far + a perspective of having to lockdown again is not easy. Fingers crossed for September/ October/ November they are supposed to be the best months left to be able to catch up with this year loss...
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I went back to work when the hotels reopened, saw some regs and it was ok and that still is. However, I’ve seen a massive increase in timewasters on the phone & email. Also, the amount of no shows is getting ridiculous, I do get them sometimes but nothing like this :FF. It’s so frustrating as i only work one or two days a week. They do not get a second chance.
In my experience punters are not bothered about Covid, I have to remind them to wash hands & shower!!
On the plus side the hotels are getting busier as gyms are open, people are meeting etc. When I first went back the hotels were very very quiet....cringe 8) They have not been taking client details.
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I've had two ask me to text and let them know in the event that I had symptoms, but nobody else has really mentioned anything although I've rarely had to ask anyone to shower or wash their hands (probably because it's been so hot).
I had one email me and ask if he could wear a mask during the booking, I said no and he presumably went elsewhere. A couple checked if kissing was still OK too. Apart from that it's business as usual bar the fannying about sanitising everything in sight :)
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SO! Coronavirus is still affecting bookings for me, and here's how.
Throughout the lockdown I had a massive upturn in enquiries and booking requests (not AW booking requests as they'd suspended those, I mean general messages and emails requesting a booking).
The lockdown ended but I was still isolating as much as I could, including not seeing close family, but still had emails from guys as "the pandemic's over" and "you won't die" and "I can show you my negative result" etc. I batted them all away, with nice/friendly replies such as "save me to your hotlist", "hope to see you very soon", "contact me in a month" etc. I promised them all that as soon as I was ready to return, I would announce it on my profile.
Which I eventually did.
That was almost 2 weeks ago. And I have gone from numerous requests per day, pre-announcement, to literally ONE. In total. ONE (seemingly) *GENUINE* request in almost 2 weeks. Which I couldn't accommodate because he wanted a date I can't do.
Apart from that it's been almost dead, apart from: man who wanted hardsports (NOT OFFERED), man who wanted "smelly farts" (NOT OFFERED), man who called me "princess" (WTF is this, Eastenders?!) and also wanted hardsports (IGNORED), man who messaged "hi"(IGNORED), man who messaged "hi how you doing" (IGNORED), man who told me his wife's away and he likes women who are the same age as him and he wanted hours of fun sex at his hotel (NOPE, NONE OF THIS (apart from the age) OFFERED), and a man who said "I guess I should accept you just don't want to meet me" (which I pointed out we're in a FUCKING PANDEMIC!!!!).
I know it's August, school hols, quiet time, etc. It's just this year is definitely loony tunes time.
Interestingly, almost all (I'd guess at 90%?) of the messages I received through AW during the lockdown came from accounts that are now DELETED/no longer active.
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I am back at work Friday but if it is dead I may resort to an ad on Craigslist a couple of days weekly then take it down. As well as my two profiles on AW and ukadultzone.
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Apart from that it's been almost dead, apart from: man who wanted hardsports (NOT OFFERED), man who wanted "smelly farts" (NOT OFFERED), man who called me "princess" (WTF is this, Eastenders?!) and also wanted hardsports (IGNORED),
I think I got the hardsports guys, one contacted me more than once and I was polite and said that I couldn't do that, then he contacted me AGAIN asking the same thing, so I figured 'time to make it VERY clear on the profile' even then I got this pathetic, pleading request last week from someone else entirely. Oh it is so gross, I just blocked immediately, I don't even have the patience to tell them to fuck off.
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As well as my two profiles on AW
How do you manage to do this please? Are they both including escort services or is one just webcam or something?
I offer two very different services and would love to have two profiles to advertise them separately, but bar using someone else's ID I can't work out how to achieve that :(
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I went back to work when the hotels reopened, saw some regs and it was ok and that still is. However, I’ve seen a massive increase in timewasters on the phone & email. Also, the amount of no shows is getting ridiculous, I do get them sometimes but nothing like this :FF. It’s so frustrating as i only work one or two days a week. They do not get a second chance.
In my experience punters are not bothered about Covid, I have to remind them to wash hands & shower!!
On the plus side the hotels are getting busier as gyms are open, people are meeting etc. When I first went back the hotels were very very quiet....cringe 8) They have not been taking client details.
Since I put "no timewasters" on my profile I haven't had many time wasters. I'm amazed it worked. Do you do this? It's worth a shot.
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I am back at work Friday but if it is dead I may resort to an ad on Craigslist a couple of days weekly then take it down. As well as my two profiles on AW and ukadultzone.
You can make escort advertisements on Craigslist?
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Thought about doing this but I haven’t put “no timewasters” as I thought this might encourage more of them :FF
Although, this last week or so hasn’t been as bad, a few calls from TW & NS saved in my phone, obv IGNORED ;D
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You can make escort advertisements on Craigslist?
No and if you think the TWs are bad elsewhere on CL it is 1000x worse.
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Yes I took it down after just a few hours. It is the same geezers asking for details plus photos as before. Only 1 in 12 or so materialises. I search their name before I reply and lo and behold I wrote to them previously.
I may put it up for one day each week. See how it goes. Only starting back Friday anyway.
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So a general question for all: what’s your prediction / insight / plan for our business for rest of the year?
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So a general question for all: what’s your prediction / insight / plan for our business for rest of the year?
Dire. Then again all depends on your location, your niche and target group some ladies will do better than others. -In general- I believe things will improve mid september and by December most people will be back to the office which is a good thing (men will have freedom of movement etc..). Flights and tourism will slowly resume and hotels will start operating in a "new normal". However... the "virus paranoia" will live with us for the next two years, that will make punters think twice (specially the older ones). Then there's a recession coming our way once the furlough scheme finishes and that will also affect the industry. It make take another year or two to get back to pre-lockdown levels. I hope I'm wrong.
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So a general question for all: what’s your prediction / insight / plan for our business for rest of the year?
I'd say it hinges on whether there's a second wave - at the moment it looks as if infections aren't really going down considerably, so it may just be that we ride it out wearing masks where appropriate but otherwise lockdown is relaxed. So many businesses are under threat I can't believe a Tory government will let it carry on. On the other hand, if there's a serious increase in infections when the colder weather arrives they may have no choice.
It looks like a lot of men will be working from home until next spring, so their punting opportunities may be severely diminished.
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It looks like a lot of men will be working from home until next spring, so their punting opportunities may be severely diminished.
I'm actually asking that same question ("when is your company bringing you back to the office?") to ALL my clients (I'm in London by the way) and 40% have told me "September" the other 40% "Christmas". There is a 20% however that has told me they will be working from home for the foreseeable future. That's just my own personal research of course.
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I'm actually asking that same question ("when is your company bringing you back to the office?") to ALL my clients (I'm in London by the way) and 40% have told me "September" the other 40% "Christmas". There is a 20% however that has told me they will be working from home for the foreseeable future. That's just my own personal research of course.
I tour the major cities and have had a similar response from customers with regards to percentages. When I was in Birmingham I could not believe how dead my hotel was; practical ghost building. Bookings held steady which was good - phew but once a customer fails to show or cancel then I simply cannot replace and that window has gone.
I see things getting worse before they get better. Nobody knows how much disposal income they will have to book us. I think this feeling will last until at least Christmas.
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So a general question for all: what’s your prediction / insight / plan for our business for rest of the year?
Total speculation of course but I'm hoping Sept and Oct will be pretty good and then things may take a down turn come Nov and Dec when the usual flu season hits and we can't be sure how Covid19 is going to behave when the colder weather returns.
Hopefully all the mask wearing in shops etc and continued hand washing will help to keep it down and if people stopped insisting on heading off abroad on holiday then having to sudenly come scuttling back when that country is put back on the blacklist and then deciding they can't afford to take 14 days off to quarantine >:(
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Can’t see thing improving this year
Think where we are right now is the best it’s going to get as I can only see infection rate rising when schools are fully back and the effects of the colder weather kink in
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I've posted this in the Project section but I'll stick it here too.
NUM have provided us with some food vouchers to give out to SAAFE members who may be suffering extreme final hardship at the moment and struggling to feed themselves as a result; the vouchers are for either Tesco or ASDA and can be spent instore.
The offer is not conditional and available for anybody involved in sex work - we will send you a link to a survey NUM have set up requesting feedback and it would be very helpful if anybody in receipt of a voucher could fill it in, but that's all. You only need an email address and we don't need any personal details from you :)
Please PM me or the SAAFE admin account for more information. We only have a limited number, but we'll do our best :)
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Anyone think there work area will go into local lockdown? Would you stop working or just see less clients?
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Anyone think there work area will go into local lockdown? Would you stop working or just see less clients?
If my area went into lockdown i would follow the rules and not see any clients otherwise i suppose if we all ignore it and carry on the cases could go crazy. But each to there own and we are all adults and know the risks and situation.
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The area I work in has a big spike but I think lots of areas are with kids going back to school
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I've not worked since my city has been under special measures.
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I can only work when my son is at school so would hopefully work. As there will be many times I cannot work e.g. halfterms/school hols/if there is a 2 week isolation at school etc.
Just hoping by spring can start using hotels in other places as it is so quiet outside when driving around it is getting me down how dead it is. Though I didn't have my number on as showing yesterday.
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After a little surge last month, this month has been exceptionally quiet for me. Enquiries are low and bookings even lower - I don't recall a time in all my near-6-years where it has been THIS quiet.
I work on an advance booking only and have now made myself available at extra times and days, whereas before, clients would book for a time that I was available and up to a month in advance. I'm hoping the extra times, such as evening and weekends that I wouldn't normally do, help bring in a few extra bookings. But my focus is now on building up my reputation and client base for other services, such as cam, chat and content.
Really worrying times but I do feel we'll see a turn come next March. If only things tick over until then *fingers crossed*
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I feel precarious, it's mostly the effect of cancellations on my limited spread out bookings. I am sticking to my rule of so many days between each booking, plenty of interest much of which is/are genuine regulars or keen newbies. I am booked up weeks in advance on that basis, so a no confirm/last minute cancel just literally 'drops me in it'.
I do take deposits from new / not seen for a while clients, but that's not a whole fee so although I get something I am not getting what I would if the booking happened or if I had taken one of the other bookings offered.
Plus I have serious stuff in family life happening, not to mention keeping an eye on what the government are doing.
I have been reminded this is what the government money is for, to make up for the disruption.
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I only started seeing clients again about six weeks ago, and have had 1-3 a week so far, which is more than I expected as I came back with higher rates. Interestingly, all of my actual confirmed bookings have been been multi-hour, and a significant amount of the requests for half-hours to hour-long bookings have been from timewasters/unsafe/reported clients: definitely an uptick in 'hi wan BB OWO fuck 30 min postcode plz??' idiots, too.
Mostly I'm just waiting around to see what happens after furlough ends.
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I have not found it any different from prior to lockdown. But I have been off since March and only back a week.
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Been in Swindon for 2 days and it’s the worst it’s ever been. Deffo going to head to oxford next instead in hope of some more jobs. It’s very disheartening all this. I hope it gets better up to Xmas.
The weekend was pretty good then nothing Mon or Tues.
I think all the news stories of a second wave are scaring people off, I'd hoped the downturn in business wouldn't hit until at least the end of Oct but looks like it's come early.
Even though they are reporting a sharp increase in cases it doesn't seem that a massive proportion of those are ending up in ICU so I can't help but wonder if there is a certain amount of scaremongering going on to try and nip it in the bud.
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You would think that they would all be trying to get their shags in now in case we all get locked down again. I found the busiest time was just after the lock down was eased and different house holds could mix. Then it seems to of dropped off again.
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I'm wondering if I should get a temperature checker and zap their foreheads as they walk in the door as I'm a bit worried about the increase. But surely if someone had a temperature they would look and feel ill?
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I'm wondering if I should get a temperature checker and zap their foreheads as they walk in the door as I'm a bit worried about the increase. But surely if someone had a temperature they would look and feel ill?
Not really. I've met a few people that tested positive at some point and they were completely asymptomatic. Myself I got a blood test two weeks ago and it showed antibodies, meaning I have passed covid at some point and haven't had any flu symptoms whatsoever for a year!, but then I've met others (family members come to mind) who got really sick... so it's a bit of a mistery this covid thing. However, if getting that plastic temperature gun makes you and your clients feel safer I would say go for it.
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Not really. I've met a few people that tested positive at some point and they were completely asymptomatic. Myself I got a blood test two weeks ago and it showed antibodies, meaning I have passed covid at some point and haven't had any flu symptoms whatsoever for a year!, but then I've met others (family members come to mind) who got really sick... so it's a bit of a mistery this covid thing. However, if getting that plastic temperature gun makes you and your clients feel safer I would say go for it.
Do you mean some could have it but not have a temperature?
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Do you mean some could have it but not have a temperature?
I'm not a doctor so unfortunately I cannot answer that question, but I passed it at some point and don't recall having a headache or flu symptons, same with a few acquaintances around who were tested positive and didn't feel anything.
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I don't think there is any way to tell a 100%. What about all these 'false' positives that have made the news recently ::)
If people want to work then they should work :)
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1 in 900 chance at the moment of catching it.
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Whitty and Vallance doing a briefing at 11 am.
Good job I checked this post before posting because predictive text wrote Shitty and Balance. 🤔
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Whitty and Vallance doing a briefing at 11 am.
Good job I checked this post before posting because predictive text wrote Shitty and Balance. 🤔
Ha ha ha! I think that's more accurate ;D
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Whitty and Vallance doing a briefing at 11 am.
Good job I checked this post before posting because predictive text wrote Shitty and Balance. 🤔
A lot of reccomendations, warnings and "you-musts" in the speech but no actual enforcements, although they mentioned something about new stricter rules for pubs. This speech is going to restrict travel, movement of people and put of companies sending their employees back to work which is not good for us. That's all fine but then government needs to continue the furlough. If all this is going to stop my clients form visiting me (which it will) and hugely affect my business, as a tax payer I expect the government to continue furloughing me as a self employed person.
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They are blaming most of the spread on personal/family/friends indoor interaction rather than work or schools so I'm expecting a ban on visiting indoors again like we had before when they made it law for a while.
Like someone else said, you'd think clients would be getting in now before it all goes to shit again.
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Not really. I've met a few people that tested positive at some point and they were completely asymptomatic. Myself I got a blood test two weeks ago and it showed antibodies, meaning I have passed covid at some point and haven't had any flu symptoms whatsoever for a year!, but then I've met others (family members come to mind) who got really sick... so it's a bit of a mistery this covid thing. However, if getting that plastic temperature gun makes you and your clients feel safer I would say go for it.
Can I ask how you go about getting the blood test you mentioned? Sounds like a good idea
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Ha ha ha! I think that's more accurate ;D
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I still don't get the temperature checker thing. I get people can be asymptomatic but what about people with a temperature, do they feel ill? Cos no point in getting a checker if people feel ill and are in bed. 🤔
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I still don't get the temperature checker thing. I get people can be asymptomatic but what about people with a temperature, do they feel ill? Cos no point in getting a checker if people feel ill and are in bed. 🤔
Also, there's many reasons why someone can have a high temperature that are not covid related. My stepmother has been with flu symptons this week and high temperature, the covid test came out negative, she just had a common cold.
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Can I ask how you go about getting the blood test you mentioned? Sounds like a good idea
I first went to the NHS and got the jab test for free in a drive thru, but that only tells you if you are presently infected with COVID or not (luckily it came out negative). They told me NHS are not doing antibodies test (unless you're a patient lying in bed in a hospital), so I had to go to a private clinic for a blood test. There's lots of them doing it (google "COVID antibodies test" in your area). It cost me like 70 pounds.
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I first went to the NHS and got the jab test for free in a drive thru, but that only tells you if you are presently infected with COVID or not (luckily it came out negative). They told me NHS are not doing antibodies test (unless you're a patient lying in bed in a hospital), so I had to go to a private clinic for a blood test. There's lots of them doing it (google "COVID antibodies test" in your area). It cost me like 70 pounds.
That's great, thanks for that ana
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A lot of reccomendations, warnings and "you-musts" in the speech but no actual enforcements, although they mentioned something about new stricter rules for pubs. This speech is going to restrict travel, movement of people and put of companies sending their employees back to work which is not good for us. That's all fine but then government needs to continue the furlough. If all this is going to stop my clients form visiting me (which it will) and hugely affect my business, as a tax payer I expect the government to continue furloughing me as a self employed person.
Boris is doing a TV address tomorrow at 11 for the rules and enforcement info. Today was just part one of this.
They reckon that if nothing is done NOW then in a month's time we're looking at 50,000 daily new infections.
As a self-employed person with a couple of health issues, I am not going to be taking any bookings from now on. I can't afford to be ill, and I don't want to be seriously ill/disabled/dead.
EDIT: Boris will be in the Commons for his statement at 12:30 Tuesday 22nd and doing a televised address to the nation at 8pm Tuesday 22nd.
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Boris is doing a TV address tomorrow at 11 for the rules and enforcement info. Today was just part one of this.
They reckon that if nothing is done NOW then in a month's time we're looking at 50,000 daily new infections.
As a self-employed person with a couple of health issues, I am not going to be taking any bookings from now on. I can't afford to be ill, and I don't want to be seriously ill/disabled/dead.
Thanks for the clarification cat, I hope Boris gets back in time from Italy for his TV address because he seems to be getting an incredible amount of holidays this summer while the rest of us can't. Regarding your refusal to take any bookings that's fine, I mean... if you can afford it all the power to you.
edit: "Rishi Sunak to extend emergency Covid-19 business loan schemes till end of November" (today's newspaper headline). I hope that includes the self-employed?
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Don't want to push my luck or jynx it but I have been quite busy. So hopefully that won't change.
I think the fact I was off 6 months apart from 5 mornings June/July has helped business.
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I am back to normal work wise and I have worked since July no clients have caught it who I have seen, and most of them are regulars I know well and would tell me if there were any issues. The economy will collapse if they carry on doing this, where does the money for all these furlough schemes and NHS come from? no magic money tree, its tax payers, which is all of us. 50,000 infections, really? I dont believe a word they say any more. We lockdown, I cant work, and guess what, it will just come back again, we are just kicking the can down the road.
I want to work as I am fit and healthy, let the vulnerable be protected and be paid to stay at home.
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I dont believe a word they say any more. We lockdown, I cant work, and guess what, it will just come back again, we are just kicking the can down the road..
Same here, I've been told by a couple of clients in the financial world that the government is borrowing money from the banks and the latter ones are charging them a commission, so the banks seem to be profitting nicely from this mess and it's in their best interest to keep the furlough going. And guess who runs the country? Definately not the government.
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Boris is doing a TV address tomorrow at 11 for the rules and enforcement info. Today was just part one of this.
They reckon that if nothing is done NOW then in a month's time we're looking at 50,000 daily new infections.
As a self-employed person with a couple of health issues, I am not going to be taking any bookings from now on. I can't afford to be ill, and I don't want to be seriously ill/disabled/dead.
UPDATE: it's been changed to Boris giving a statement in the House of Commons apparantly. But it will be on TV. (at least on the Parliament Channel!)
EDIT: Boris will be in the Commons for his statement at 12:30 Tuesday 22nd and doing a televised address to the nation at 8pm Tuesday 22nd.
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Thanks for the clarification cat, I hope Boris gets back in time from Italy for his TV address because he seems to be getting an incredible amount of holidays this summer while the rest of us can't. Regarding your refusal to take any bookings that's fine, I mean... if you can afford it all the power to you.
edit: "Rishi Sunak to extend emergency Covid-19 business loan schemes till end of November" (today's newspaper headline). I hope that includes the self-employed?
Regarding Italy - it's being reported that it was Tony Blair in Italy LOL
The loans are open to us all I think? Whether or not you're accepted is another thing. I would like to see furlough and self employed grants extended/added to.
I can only afford to not take booking because I do camming. It doesn't pay much (for me) and is hard work with so many more ladies online now, but it's better than zero income. I just can't get ill, I would likely be seriously ill and perhaps left long term physically disabled, which would mean my long term earning prospects would be severely curtailed. Short of being able to lose 13 stone in about 4 weeks, there's not much I can do about the short term situ :-\
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I can only afford to not take booking because I do camming.
Makes total sense, problem is a lot of us are not on cam.
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I am back to normal work wise and I have worked since July no clients have caught it who I have seen, and most of them are regulars I know well and would tell me if there were any issues. The economy will collapse if they carry on doing this, where does the money for all these furlough schemes and NHS come from? no magic money tree, its tax payers, which is all of us. 50,000 infections, really? I dont believe a word they say any more. We lockdown, I cant work, and guess what, it will just come back again, we are just kicking the can down the road.
I want to work as I am fit and healthy, let the vulnerable be protected and be paid to stay at home.
50,000 is basic maths. If the current daily infection rate is doubling every 7 days, it doesn't take much to go from the current 5,000 a day to 50,000. About 3 and half weeks. They're working with that premis. And these were the scientists, no gov ministers on screen.
"Kicking the can down the road" is precisely what they're trying to do. So that the NHS isn't overwhelmed and there are ambulances and beds available if (god forbid) us or a loved one has a heart attack or stroke or car accident etc during this period.
It's worth a watch anyway. One very important thing that was said 'You cannot in an epidemic take your own risk - you are taking a risk on behalf of everybody else.' and went on to explain that if you go about your day taking your own risk, you bring that risk to everyone you come into contact with, and eventually that risk will fall upon vulnerable people.
Anyway, I'll stop there as this isn't strictly about how it's affecting bookings and I've posted what I can about this morning's broadcast. It's definitely worth a watch, as it's the prelim to tomorrow's Boris statement (the measures they're taking going forward).
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Whether Boris puts more restrictions in place tomorrow or not, I'm finding the upturn in infections scary to be honest. I do partially blame the government but this is unprecedented so no gov was going to get it spot on. People just went haywire when some restrictions were lifted, as reported on the news. Parties and general silliness. One good thing is they have a widely used drug available for this thing, but it's not guaranteed to work in everyone. I get what people are saying about the economy but I myself can't afford to catch this either. Also, I'm a bit to blame myself because I only took a few weeks off. Not sure what to do really.
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Jesus Christ, it’s not rocket science that infection rates will increase following the lifting of national lockdown, it’s completely to be expected. As it now transpired, vast majority of people will survive it if they get it. Why people keep acting as if this is the Black Plague. I have been working, I will continue to be working despite restrictions and won’t participate in any of this idiocy. People have bills to pay and I’m very concerned that economy has been ruined over a disease with such high survival rate. Good 80-90% of those who died have been 65+ and yet we lock everyone else out it’s utter madness.
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Yes, it’s not the Black Plague, and yes, it probably won’t kill you. However, it can damage your health permanently. Who fancies Pulmonary fibrosis? Cardiovascular issues? Liver and kidney dysfunction? This is just a few things.
Personally, I’d rather not impact my health long term, but that’s just me.
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Yes, it’s not the Black Plague, and yes, it probably won’t kill you. However, it can damage your health permanently. Who fancies Pulmonary fibrosis? Cardiovascular issues? Liver and kidney dysfunction? This is just a few things.
Personally, I’d rather not impact my health long term, but that’s just me.
Yep, and cognitive issues, too.
Also, it's not just about whether you contract it yourself, but about being a spreader.
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Yes, it’s not the Black Plague, and yes, it probably won’t kill you. However, it can damage your health permanently. Who fancies Pulmonary fibrosis? Cardiovascular issues? Liver and kidney dysfunction? This is just a few things.
Personally, I’d rather not impact my health long term, but that’s just me.
Fair enough, but I hope you realize the impact this is having in people's mental health and the economies huge downturn (which are related to one another). How people are loosing their jobs and closing their business left and right. A third of pubs, restaurants and coffee shops in my neighbourhood are boarded up, defunct, the rest are just "surviving" but they had to lay of 60% of their staff. I've lived in my neighbourhood of central London for two years now and there's been two suicides this month, one in the hotel across my street and one jumper from an office building very close by. In two years living here I've never EVER heard of something like this. All this lockdowns and killing of the economy is creating another plague worse than the virus.
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We all know how this covid 19 is affecting so many different aspects of daily life for so many people, sex workers more then most as the risks are higher for us. Plus it's true it's not just about us catching it, it's the damage it could do to any vulnerable person we could pass it to without knowing. So also we can have a burden on our shoulders with this job and it can affect our mental health as much as the next person.
Ideal world i would love not to do this til we get a vaccine but we just end up in the red.
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Everyone has valid points in this, personally I think we need to find a way of living alongside it now because it’s not going anywhere! I’m aware I’m being very selfish here but I’m so over it, we need to put all our efforts into protecting the vulnerable and trundle on while being conscious, if we don’t there will be nothing left for anyone to live for anyway.
I havnt lost anyone to it though, if I had then no doubt I’d probably be jumping up and down with a ‘lockdown now’ placard somewhere :-\ there are no right and wrongs in this.
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And again, can we please keep it specific and sex work related? I'm pretty sure there will be at least one or two other places on the internet where somebody has brought this up :).
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I think for me the main point over probably the next six months is that if you continue to do physical meets, you need to be prepared a). to self-isolate as much as possible in other ways to compensate for shagging randoms, particularly from elderly parents, anyone with an autoimmune condition, diabetes etc., and b). to participate in track and trace if necessary (assuming any punter would give them your details...). And obviously try and get tested/not work if you have any symptoms yourself.
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I am not sure if clients will pass our number to track and trace. If they were to ring me I wonder if they are number withheld in which case I have call blocker on ....
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I’ve been back part time and taking bookings for last 2 months but I think I will stop taking any new booking after the weekend
I have a civvie job i took at the start of lockdown in April so it’s not my only income stream
Think the 2nd wave will be worse and more restriction will be needed to try and keep the virus under some sort of control
We are all going to be in for a rough ride over the winter period
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I am surviving this period purely on regulars. Lots of them have been very kind and upped their bookings to two hours. The footfall of new clients and enquires is getting lower and lower. I’m saving every penny at the moment in case we get banned from seeing anyone from a. Different household. I’m a bit worried if I’m honest. The fact that they have asked everyone to work from home again and furlough coming to an end will definitely have a knock on effect.
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I don't know about the next few months... but yesterdays announcement did had an impact, because of it I had a cancellation last night and another one this morning >:(
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I don't know about the next few months... but yesterdays announcement did had an impact, because of it I had a cancellation last night and another one this morning >:(
People need to get used to the announcments again before accepting it i think, especially with paying for sex. They always need it so come back. It's just a roller coaster of not knowing what rules will be living by as changes all the time.
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People need to get used to the announcments again before accepting it i think, especially with paying for sex. They always need it so come back. It's just a roller coaster of not knowing what rules will be living by as changes all the time.
I agree since I came back things have been generally slow with the exception of the odd good decent week, but every time there’s an announcement things slow down even more for a little while. I don’t have the luxury of regulars as I moved to one area just prior to lockdown and now don’t have a base.
Like many for whom this is the sole income I can’t afford to stay off for months on end. I took two months off initially and then financially had to come back seeing a limited number of guys, with service restrictions and increased expectations of hygiene on them and on my part.
The last couple of years my working has been limited by chronic pain issues so I was dammed by not only loss of earnings because of that but dammed again because this meant no entitlement to any money from HMRC.
Certainly a very worrying time for everyone. Regarding track and trace and clients giving out our numbers I think that’s possible yes but probable no. For the same reasons that most guys hide the fact that they see escorts from everyone.
Obviously that’s not great in terms of the spread of the virus. My gut feeling is sooner or later I will catch Covid from a client, it’s a numbers game. I have been asking clients who are unwell in any way or who have vulnerable family members not to visit me. On my part I have seen no one but clients as I have no family or friends near where I am at the moment
If I did catch it I would definitely tell any clients I’d seen in the previous week. Often that’s only been one client recently as it’s so slow. And obviously stop working.
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I started back working in May and been steadily busy but today is the quietest it has been for me. Thank god for regulars pre bookings, I’ve still made just under my usual but since going available this morning I’ve had 2 same day bookings which is really low for me, the phone has barely made a noise. Not sure if it’s the new rules or just a quiet day hoping for the latter
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The past week and a half has been ever so slow for me. August and the beginning of September were a dream.
I think it’s slowed due to restrictions in place in my area tbh.
On a second note, does anyone else get frustrated when clients tell them that it’s best to not look too available in this time? Or to work in this time?
As a student who has savings which are to be used on my studies, I just find it a bit irritating when clients expect WG’s to just stop working. I’ve registered for self-assessment, but as a new sex worker, I cannot receive a grant as I have never filed and paid taxes before due to not working.
I understand that morally it is not the best decision, but there are hardly any options for work anyway. A lot of my friends are unemployed, or on universal credit now that some of the furlough money has ended in hospitality jobs.
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On a second note, does anyone else get frustrated when clients tell them that it’s best to not look too available in this time? Or to work in this time?
Being 47 I'm rarely patronised to quite that degree, but if I could be bothered to respond beyond 'fuck off and mind your own business', I would try looking thrilled that they were offering to pay my rent and promise solemnly to stop working just as soon as they did :).
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Is anyone finding it slower in areas with the new Covid restrictions? I’m hoping it will pick up when people realise it’s the same just more restrictions.
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Is anyone finding it slower in areas with the new Covid restrictions? I’m hoping it will pick up when people realise it’s the same just more restrictions.
It’s been very slow generally for me for months, I finally had a good week two weeks ago but the last two weeks I’ve been struggling. I think it’s notable that the whole time I have been near areas which have extra restrictions although my own area does not.
So I do think that local restrictions are having an effect even for neighbouring areas.
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Is anyone finding it slower in areas with the new Covid restrictions? I’m hoping it will pick up when people realise it’s the same just more restrictions.
Yes, I am. In north west and only had one booking all week! ::)
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I am too hope it gets busier
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My guess is things will slow down in the run up to Christmas if anything.
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My guess is things will slow down in the run up to Christmas if anything.
Was very busy and doubled my weekly targets but things are slowing down. Noticed drop off genuine enquiries and my phone is exploding with Timewasters.
I agree with you. I don’t think it will get any better and planning Mid October/November hibernation.
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Worcestershire here, very quiet week behind...
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October/November has been dire the past couple of years for me. I’m not expecting it to be any better if not worse this year, but just gotta get with it I guess. It’s tough in Scotland as we have harsher restrictions.
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I've found covid has also brought an increase of time wasters and this for me is the most frustrating part. Having to balance that with a lower amount of bookings is definitely difficult, I'm looking to try secure some part time work so I am not reliant on escorting. Especially as we don't know what's going to happen. With cases on the rise we could easily go into a second lockdown
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Covid has definitely brought in the time wasters in droves and my only response to all new texts is no deposit not booking. Gets rid of them in a flash.
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I have to say I'm getting no time wasters, although I can spot them quite easily. I'm also getting my four a day. That's all I need so I'm busyish.
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Worcestershire here, very quiet week behind...
I’m not that far from Worcestershire and same for me. I think it’s to do with first Birmingham then Wolverhampton being in special measures and this is affecting neighbouring areas.
I think this is really making a difference. I am struggling to get a few bookings a week and I think it’s the same for a lot of people. I think those who are doing okay it’s partly to do with luck and partly to do with location.
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Done one hour this morning and another hour on his way, fingers crossed! And I'm in the north west.
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NUM have provided us with some food vouchers to give out to SAAFE members who may be suffering extreme final hardship at the moment and struggling to feed themselves as a result; the vouchers are for either Tesco or ASDA and can be spent instore.
The offer is not conditional and available for anybody involved in sex work - we will send you a link to a survey NUM have set up requesting feedback and it would be very helpful if anybody in receipt of a voucher could fill it in, but that's all. You only need an email address and we don't need any personal details from you :)
Please PM me or the SAAFE admin account for more information. We only have a limited number, but we'll do our best :)
I'm just reposting/bumping the above since we still have a few vouchers left after NUM kindly sent us some more. Anybody who is really struggling with new restrictions or whatever, just get in touch :).
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I was doing really well to the point I didn’t even have to do available on aw I was booking up with pre bookings but today has been dire, I’ve had 3 pre booking with regulars but have been dead since 5pm, I’ve had two phone calls one was obviously looking to get off on chatting and the other had 3 warnings for filming without permission. It’s the most quiet I’ve been in a while and the only time that I can remember not getting a same day booking. Hoping it’s a one off
Same here, it was going really well since I came back until this week, 2 bookings in 5 days that only total 90 mins.
Virtually all calls are from guys I've blocked previously or have down as timewasters because my block list is full!
Agree that all the recent news reports are scaring the shit out of everyone even though all the new cases are mainly students who are not massively affected and the elderly mostly in nursing homes. Seems the government won't be happy until the economy has totally flatlined.
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I would imagine the younger escorts are especially struggling as presumably many will imagine those in their twenties may be students and are at a higher risk of being infected.
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Well it seems I'm in a Covid hot spot and I've only done two today. I think Johnson is making an announcement on Monday re local areas. I'm getting worried again and might start insisting on mask use. Sounds ridiculous I know but if he wears one while I do my thing and vice versa. I might even stop again for a while.
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The last couple of weekends have been really busy for me, but this weekend is so slow & seems there about 90% of people are time wasters. I’m in Birmingham so it must have something to do with the restrictions. So annoying
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So tomorrow Boris is going to put new tough restrictions in place, including London.
I imagine this will make guys even more worried and therefore less calls.
How often will we be going through those local lockdowns? ???
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I imagine the brakes will be on until the statistics improve.
My neighbouring county is in high tier but where I live it is medium but yes it may kill business off more.
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I'm in the medium group but have noticed a slight downturn in bookings. As soon as that R rate gets below 1 I think things will be better. Must say I'm glad they're saying it's mostly youngsters partying and haven't jumped on the sex worker bandwagon.
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London is going in to tier 2 lockdown from saturday, does anyone know what this means for is?no indoor social mixing but mobile hairdressers and contractors can still operate.. do we class the same as them or are we considered social? Im really confused!!!!
Thanks for any help!
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London is going in to tier 2 lockdown from saturday, does anyone know what this means for is?no indoor social mixing but mobile hairdressers and contractors can still operate.. do we class the same as them or are we considered social? Im really confused!!!!
Thanks for any help!
Just grab a comb and a blowdryer to all your outcalls and perform some hair grooming on your client. Are hairdressers allowed to fuck their clients? I haven't read anything regarding sexual etiquette on independent contractors either so do what you think is right.
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glasgow based.. no calls and bookings since the past 3 days even though showing as AT on aw. is anyone experiencing the same elsewhere?
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More and more local lockdowns being introduced so it could effect sex work and where to work for the best which can change week by week.
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I’ve had 0 calls yesterday and 1 today (London)
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100% timewasters and worse for two weeks.
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I'm in Essex and as of 12 am Friday we are going into tier 2 high risk so no mixing or guest from other households which makes having in or outcalls now risky. My concern is that now more than ever having visitors to my flat is risky or worse being grassed up. I technically can't even have my best mate in my home. I don't know what to do now as I planned on working next week and had bookings lined up. Today I'm off and my phones been going off all day, I'm working tomorrow and imagine a few guys will want some fun before its illegal.
Did any of you ladies manage to still work with restrictions in your areas? I'm thinking of working only after dark now but I think this year and up until spring will be difficult and I'mjust lucky with regulars.
So annoying that the government can just give a few days notice and we have to then panic or end up with no way to work, Getting me peed off now.
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Honestly, I would pretty much write off escorting until January, and more like Easter 2021 sort of time. Unless you're in a good spot and have been busy or at least ticking over for the past 6-8 weeks, things aren't going to improve over the rest of the year, even if the circuit break isn't implemented.
If anyone is stuck financially, stores, warehouses etc. should be beginning to look for Christmas help right about now.
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It has gone very quiet the past cple of weeks and I can't see things improving for a good while with all the new restrictions and many being too worried and scared by all the news reports to come visit us.
If I can keep ticking over with maybe 2/3 bookings a week I'd be happy under these circumstances.
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I am based just outside london, so far in a lower risk area at the moment, October has definately been quieter, but has got busier in the last few days, maybe people trying to see me before a lockdown.
I will carry on working as long as I can, I am low volume, so I see what I do as far less risky than most other people who do "regular jobs" who cant work from home.
I am really glad I worked non-stop over the Summer as I have really boosted the savings , but there is always the webcam, which is not ideal but does bring some money in.
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I'm thanking the Lord for regulars
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Yes I am always grateful for returning clients.
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I've pretty much just been seeing regulars since July. I did get a few new clients when lockdown lifted who have returned since but not seeing many new clients at all.
I'm being very stingy with spending because the savings I have may well have to be used to make up weekly shortfalls! Trying to remain positive but yes, thinking things won't quite be themselves again til 2021.
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I'm confused about the new rules. My area has now gone into high risk tier (not the highest). I know we're not supposed to socialise with other households but if we're working does that count?
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I'm confused about the new rules. My area has now gone into high risk tier (not the highest). I know we're not supposed to socialise with other households but if we're working does that count?
Are you able to do your job in a Covid-secure way? Masks, face shields, distancing? Anti-bacterial/alcohol handwash, keeping the place open and aired (windows and doors open etc)?
The rules are here for close contact businesses (page before states that these rules are for MEDIUM tier and to follow any further guidance for higher tiers):
https://www.gov .uk /guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/close-contact-services
Tier rules and all other links are here: https://www.gov .uk /coronavirus
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Are you Girls hopeful about 2021?
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Are you Girls hopeful about 2021?
I am. I think this winter's going to be hard, much harder than the lockdown earlier this year. More people dying (also from seasonal flu etc, but add covid etc on top of that...), more lockdowns, more confusion, less money/income, and far less "we're in this together" than the previous lockdown, added loneliness, mental health suffering...
But I think this will also see the virus mutating enough for it to become less deadly, both in terms of deaths and long term illness and disability and straining the NHS, so by NEXT winter it should "just" be another seasonal cold, appears every year and is a nuisance at worst.
Once we hit Feb/March, and spring starts to gather pace, and blue skies, more sun etc starts to appear, and the numbers go back down (or stay down, if the lockdowns are successful), I'm hopeful that things overall will start to improve.
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Are you Girls hopeful about 2021?
No other year can be as bad as 2020 and for god sake surely they will have a vaccination within 6 months from now? The world can’t continue like this.
Last week my building got a letter from the council to say there have been reports of people having visitors in their house when we’re not meant to at the minute! Firstly it’s not up to the council to enforce these rules and secondly some of my neighbours need to get a fucking life, rules get broken all the time and this is no different, I was livid when I got the letter and I actually called the housing manager up and said if you have any issues with visitors coming to the buildings then call the police, or Nicola Sturgeon, because it’s fuck all to do with the housing company what we do, obviously I withheld my number when I phoned and disguised my voice but I had to do it, I told them they are wasting paper sending out crap like that!
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Are you able to do your job in a Covid-secure way? Masks, face shields, distancing? Anti-bacterial/alcohol handwash, keeping the place open and aired (windows and doors open etc)?
The rules are here for close contact businesses (page before states that these rules are for MEDIUM tier and to follow any further guidance for higher tiers):
https://www.gov .uk /guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/close-contact-services
Tier rules and all other links are here: https://www.gov .uk /coronavirus
I'm in the highest tier along with all other neighbouring areas and still no new help for the SE apart from the 20% grant which is peanuts ::)
I was optimistic before but I'm not now the way the Government's reacting to everything. I feel as long as covid's around they will always remain hysterical.
SE are expected to carry on working but in this industry we can't do that safely. And a lot of people are staying away because of the scaremongering so even if we were working it's still going to be dead :FF
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I'm in the highest tier along with all other neighbouring areas and still no new help for the SE apart from the 20% grant which is peanuts ::)
I was optimistic before but I'm not now the way the Government's reacting to everything. I feel as long as covid's around they will always remain hysterical.
SE are expected to carry on working but in this industry we can't do that safely. And a lot of people are staying away because of the scaremongering so even if we were working it's still going to be dead :FF
re gov being hysterical: They just don't want the NHS to be overwhelmed and for the dead to be piling up in the street. This could happen if they don't act to keep people out of hospital (particularly in Winter), which means trying to stop people (especially the old and vulnerable) from being infected all in one go.
I agree re SE payments and income, it's disgusting how we're being treated.
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Are you Girls hopeful about 2021?
NO
Can’t see things improving until after spring
The current lockdown restrictions will need to be stricter before the COVID rates will decrease
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I was speaking to a friend who works in industry and he was pessimistic about next year. I certainly don't think things will improve before April/May.
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Two general/non-sex related work posts removed, and it would be more if I could be arsed. Back on topic, please.
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Anybody else in tier 2 lockdown and not sure weather to put on Green light and show available? I'm working but worried about showing as available as I'm in the tier 2 lockdown. The way Adultwork is these days we can't take booking request but can go available but noticed very few are in my area. Have noticed when I have shown available I get the messages questioning why I'm working :/.
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I'm in London and my phone has been going pretty much as usual. I don't use the AT thing because I find it just brings more stupid calls and texts without leading to any more bookings; if somebody texted me asking why I was working (or anything else that wasn't a booking enquiry) I'd just delete it :).
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Iv got every faith in 2021, I’m still ticking along more or less as usual.
If you think back to March everyone was terrified, now people arnt really that bothered, fast forward to next year and people won’t even be slightly interested. Good luck to Boris getting people to comply next year when they’re not even doing it now. Unemployment might get us a bit but I always find my clients are like smokers.. they’ll find the money somewhere.
MissElvira.. I bounced into a tier 3 yesterday with all my lights flashing and I was fine :) I did stick to regs and clients I had at least had a txt from before March though.
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Anybody else in tier 2 lockdown and not sure weather to put on Green light and show available? I'm working but worried about showing as available as I'm in the tier 2 lockdown. The way Adultwork is these days we can't take booking request but can go available but noticed very few are in my area. Have noticed when I have shown available I get the messages questioning why I'm working :/.
I've noticed that putting AT on just increases the number of timewasters. If you are working somewhere that is fairly discreet just putting your number on should be enough.
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Yes I am getting enquiries that start with 'Are you still working' so presumably many aren't.
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Less inquiries but manage to get all my bookings in order (low volume) and same income level so all’s good and steady.
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It was just picking up nicely and now they are implementing higher tiers in so many areas it's going to kill it off again!
So bloody annoying and it was on tv earlier that the police are encouraging people to rat on their neighbours ???
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I've had nothing for a few weeks but I'm in a tier two area and my clients tend to be mostly mature so I feel they may be shielding. Even my phone has gone dead
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When I first came back in July, I was so busy and did really well. October was the month I’ve gone full time and I’ve only made just over what I made part time, so although it was okay, I should have done double what I made.
Now that we’re going into tier 3 in Leeds, I’m planning to retire way earlier than planned. I’m working tomorrow because I’ve got 2 bookings already & so if I don’t get anymore then it’s fine Cos I’ll still be in profile for the day.
Who knows if I’ll continue after tomorrow!
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Well, I'm really glad I've saved money to get by through the probable 2nd lockdown. I think we need it otherwise the NHS aren't going to be able to cope.
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Yeah it looks like a second lockdown is happening next week :(
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Yeah it looks like a second lockdown is happening next week :(
Great that will mess up the economy even more. Be better to sheild the vulnerable. Boris will want to save Christmas day so he can look like father Christmas and let family be together. Wonder how many will be in the mood for sex work now?
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I only used VS for one week recently, millions of TWs unable to read and only two bookings, but I have to say out of those two, one was absolutely gross, the other one is a sweetheart who booked me again fairly quickly and I would gladly see him again because he was THE easiest booking and a really sweet guy. So, I have to say, VS was worth it just for him but I wouldn't only use it as the constant calls and texts from timewasters is just too much work.
Yeh it’s stressful for sure. I’ve been on it for weeks and it’s very noticeable that bookings are getting scarcer as well.
I’m surrounded by higher tier areas in my county, although my actual area is the lowest tier, so that doesn’t help.
The next full lockdown will be devastating if it means guys completely stop visiting again.
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I'm hoping for a last minute rush before lockdown.
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I'm hoping for a last minute rush before lockdown.
No chance of that for me, my inbox is dead. I was expecting this though, thankfully I have been prepping a bit.
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What the Hell, Lockdown announcement tonight, I did the structure lockdown. I've pushed my self to work so hard the last few weeks and thank God I did. I had just found a good hotel to work from and now it's back to this again. Sorry but this time around I'll take what work I can over next month. Just so depressing really and not everyone can save for this kind of thing. And I was just starting to scrape back savings I'd used up in the first lockdown, Roll on a year without all this.
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Yeh it’s stressful for sure. I’ve been on it for weeks and it’s very noticeable that bookings are getting scarcer as well.
I’m surrounded by higher tier areas in my county, although my actual area is the lowest tier, so that doesn’t help.
The next full lockdown will be devastating if it means guys completely stop visiting again.
If women work from home or have a work flat some will still work no matter what they did last time so there still will be some clients around that do not bother with lockdown rules and married guys will just say much longer wait at the supermarket honey.
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copy +paste from the government website:
To reduce social contact, the Government has ordered certain businesses and venues to close. These include:
-all non-essential retail, including, but not limited to clothing and electronics stores, vehicle showrooms, travel agents, betting shops, auction houses, tailors, car washes, tobacco and vape shops.
-personal care facilities such as hair, beauty and nail salons, tattoo parlours, spas, massage parlours, body and skin piercing services, non-medical acupuncture, and tanning salons.
-Hospitality venues like restaurants, bars and pubs must close, but can still provide takeaway and delivery services. However, takeaway of alcohol will not be allowed.
- Hotels, hostels and other accommodation should only open for those who have to travel for work purposes and for a limited number of other exemptions which will be set out in law.
Wait... so the self-employed we have to close down again but this time will be getting a 40% ? Are you fekin kidding? How are we supposed to survive on 40%?
Is this a bad halloween joke?
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I think it will go to 80% furlough like previously. Read it on one of the news articles.
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Omg I absolutely hate having to spend the money I am saving and like to work for my money! I’m gonna be so depressed when lockdown 2 happens. The first one was so bad mentally & financially, thinking of you all! I’m so sad!
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As before, defying this idiocy will all my might. I have zero regrets that I carried on back then at least managed to save up a comfortable sum. Despite being able to eat into that, I still won’t and will carry on and so the majority of my pre books as I asked them all yesterday.
This is madness.
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Hope I can just continue working especially if schools don't shut. I only need a little money to get by and don't want to dip into savings too much but we will see.
Not much will be left come spring/summer at this rate....
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Since I have been back working in July, I have only been 10% down on my normal earnings, but I am in the South and a low risk Tier 1 area, only doing dominaton/fetish services, lots of my clients are in IT so can work from home, or are in trades who have worked throughout and are still earning, I consider myself to be extreamly lucky but it is down to what I do and where I am based. I have seen lots of clients and no one has contacted me to tell me they have caught it and to isolate, I have lots of regulars who I have been seeing for years monthly and although a lot would have kept their mouth shut, I would have expected a few calls.
Before the last lockdown, even though I was advertised as available no one booked me in the last 5 days of me being around, this time I have had bookings daily. A huge amount of fellow lockdown sceptics like me, the last one worked so well we are having to do another one. It will be interesting to see what happens from Thursday.
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In my view, the reason the last lockdown didn't work is because when restrictions were gradually lifted, people took the piss and were all out partying with no pretence of social distancing.
Another thing about this lockdown is to delay mass infections untill we possibly have a vaccine.
Saying this though, I'm in two minds whether to work or not.
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The second wave was inevitable, not least because the virus thrives in cold(er) weather. The government chose to ignore this until they could no longer do so. They are responsible for this mess, heck, they couldn’t even organise a press conference or readable slides ::)
I have a booking on Tuesday, one that I managed to get to replace a postponement later in the week. Given lockdown starts at 12:00am on Thursday, this has worked out well.
Although I have taken a few deposits for bookings (TBD) in December, and a 24 hour booking (TBD) in January, I am resigned to not seeing anyone until next year.
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It's madness, I did the strict first lockdown and when I started back up til now I've not known anyone I see regular, Those they know or anyone local to be get this virus, Nobody at my supermarket shops. And all the staff in supermarkets are still put at risk. So I will still try and work but after dark. I'm more worried that my neighbours will have more time to see visitors during the day. I wish I hadn't done the first lockdown, But we want to do what's right to protect others. But just feels like our lives are being put on hold for something that's not as scary as the media and government make out. I have refused to see a few clients I know have health issues. If I can just scrape the money each week to cover food and Bill's I will be happy but it's going to be a bit stressful with the law hanging over our heads.
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when I started back up til now I've not known anyone I see regular, Those they know or anyone local to be get this virus, Nobody at my supermarket shops.
You know the medical circumstances of all the people who use and work in your local shops? How?
Anybody else in tier 2 and not sure weather to put on Green light and show available? I'm working but worried about showing as available as I'm in the tier 2
The above would suggest that least a handful of people local to you have been tested as positive - I would definitely tell whoever you're getting this information from they need to up their game a bit, and maybe even read something once in a while. The Office for National Statistics site is a good start, since it collects and collates data from as many different legit sources as it can stuff in it's pockets.
Now since this is SAAFE and not a general discussion site (or the ONS), back to sex work, I think :).
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I will continue to work but low volume and checking their occupations as always. So nobody who works in a factory or hospital for example. I just had to refuse a lovely sounding guy who works in a hospital such a shame!
The geeks who just work at home alone are ideal lol.
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If you usually work from home or have a work flat i would imagine plenty will just carry on working as not to get in worse debt when lockdown is lifted, i don't blame any of you as government help will not be much for some. It's just depressing as no signs of this going away and locking down for another year is not feasible either. So we could be in and out of lockdowns for a while.
I agreed with the first lockdown but not so much now even though i agree the vulnerable or over 60's should be protected and shielded.
Anyway sex workers who only use hotels or serviced apartments not much choice anyway as none of us could work anyway as will only be open for key workers.
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Since I have been back working in July, I have only been 10% down on my normal earnings, but I am in the South and a low risk Tier 1 area, only doing dominaton/fetish services, lots of my clients are in IT so can work from home, or are in trades who have worked throughout and are still earning, I consider myself to be extreamly lucky but it is down to what I do and where I am based. I have seen lots of clients and no one has contacted me to tell me they have caught it and to isolate, I have lots of regulars who I have been seeing for years monthly and although a lot would have kept their mouth shut, I would have expected a few calls.
Before the last lockdown, even though I was advertised as available no one booked me in the last 5 days of me being around, this time I have had bookings daily. A huge amount of fellow lockdown sceptics like me, the last one worked so well we are having to do another one. It will be interesting to see what happens from Thursday.
I'm finding the same, before the last lockdown it was dead, this time around there are plenty of guys trying to get in before Thurs and a lot are not happy about going through it again.
My main concern about working from Thurs is getting grassed up and fined, worse still ending up in the local rag, not the virus.
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If you usually work from home or have a work flat i would imagine plenty will just carry on working as not to get in worse debt when lockdown is lifted, i don't blame any of you as government help will not be much for some. It's just depressing as no signs of this going away and locking down for another year is not feasible either. So we could be in and out of lockdowns for a while.
I agreed with the first lockdown but not so much now even though i agree the vulnerable or over 60's should be protected and shielded.
Anyway sex workers who only use hotels or serviced apartments not much choice anyway as none of us could work anyway as will only be open for key workers.
I was going to ask on here who was going to continue working I’m in mixed thoughts about it. Last time they were naming and shaming girls on review sights and bbc even contacted one and did an interview as to why she was working. In contrast to this many of my London friends worked all the way through it and made a fortune. I think I’m going to strike somewhere in the middle do 2 jobs a week with regular clients and keep the wolves away. Get them to drive over when the school runs are in operation for cover. Because let’s face it the self employment help this time is pittance so im sorry we have to get food on the table.
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I was going to ask on here who was going to continue working I’m in mixed thoughts about it. Last time they were naming and shaming girls on review sights and bbc even contacted one and did an interview as to why she was working. In contrast to this many of my London friends worked all the way through it and made a fortune. I think I’m going to strike somewhere in the middle do 2 jobs a week with regular clients and keep the wolves away. Get them to drive over when the school runs are in operation for cover. Because let’s face it the self employment help this time is pittance so im sorry we have to get food on the table.
I would only worry about neighbours, journalists and police fines, nobody else on the internet matter.
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I was going to ask on here who was going to continue working I’m in mixed thoughts about it. Last time they were naming and shaming girls on review sights and bbc even contacted one and did an interview as to why she was working. In contrast to this many of my London friends worked all the way through it and made a fortune. I think I’m going to strike somewhere in the middle do 2 jobs a week with regular clients and keep the wolves away. Get them to drive over when the school runs are in operation for cover. Because let’s face it the self employment help this time is pittance so im sorry we have to get food on the table.
I thought SE employed grant was now 80%? ??? If they're going to extend lockdown further I'm sure they will have to raise it from the 40% that we're supposed to get after the 80%.
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It’s 80% of Nov and 40% for both Dec and Jan
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In contrast to this many of my London friends worked all the way through it and made a fortune. I think I’m going to strike somewhere in the middle do 2 jobs a week with regular clients and keep the wolves away.
Whatever friends told you they were making "a fortune" on lockdown were taking the piss. I'm in central London and the few ladies working in lockdown nobody was making money, except of course for the odd regular client or two living in the vicinity who would visit them. There were no incoming flights, no tourists, no business travelling crowd and men had no excuse to leave the house. Unless your friends had several rich sugar daddies providing for them... "business wise" it just did not happen for three months.
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Whatever friends told you they were making "a fortune" on lockdown were taking the piss. I'm in central London and the few ladies working in lockdown nobody was making money, except of course for the odd regular client or two living in the vicinity who would visit them. There were no incoming flights, no tourists, no business travelling crowd and men had no excuse to leave the house. Unless your friends had several rich sugar daddies providing for them... "business wise" it just did not happen for three months.
Bollocks, both myself and a close friend made thousands on lockdown and we aren’t even in London. Glad we did despite everything at least well insulated for the coming months.
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Bollocks, both myself and a close friend made thousands on lockdown and we aren’t even in London. Glad we did despite everything at least well insulated for the coming months.
Somebody else's experience of something being different to yours does not make it 'bollocks', especially given that Ana is talking about London which - as you've said - is not where you are and therefore your view here is irrelevent.
Regardless of that, you'll keep it civil from now on, please. If you're not able to do that, we'll help.
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Hi Guys,
I’m a little bit stuck on what to do with this lockdown.
Is anyone here going to continue working?
Last time we went into lockdown, I was forced to work out of necessity, as I was new to escorting and had no savings. I’ve saved a comfortable amount now, but I would ideally like to work to cover my basic living costs (700 a month) at least, as I’m terrified of the lockdown being extended and eating up the savings I’ve worked so hard for.
I feel guilty, but I have no government help that I can access. As a Postgrad masters student, I think even universal credit isn’t an option.
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Yes, many will be.. its ok to feel guilty but some of us have to out of necessity xx
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Yup, I am.
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No.
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Me neither.
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I only work from hotels so I can’t work...if I had my own incall place Then I probably would still work, I would prob only see the odd reg here and there until the lockdown was over .. i been abit more prepared for this second lockdown.. I have saved up monies to make sure I have got enough to tie me over until restrictions get lifted..
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I only work from hotels so I can’t work...if I had my own incall place Then I probably would still work, I would prob only see the odd reg here and there until the lockdown was over .. i been abit more prepared for this second lockdown.. I have saved up monies to make sure I have got enough to tie me over until restrictions get lifted..
I'm only going to see regs and people I've seen before just like I did with the first lockdown. I'm so glad I did that. I don't see many as it is. I have a feeling this is going to drag on for a lot longer than they say and even when restrictions were lifted it was still quiet for me as I see mostly older people. The media have done untold damage with all their scaremongering. I think they've frightened some people off permanently >:(
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I'm going to continue my 3 days a week and see how it goes. I see 4 a day. I think there's going to be tons of rule breakers this time.
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Although my finances have taken a huge hit since March, I won't be working during lockdown for a myriad of reasons mostly out of my control. Also, I'm in London, the majortiy of the men I see are not, and won't be for some time and if I'm honest, I am not really looking to engage with anyone new at the moment.
If I offered in calls, I would possibly consider seeing a few regulars if they contacted me, but I wouldn't be soliciting for business.
OP, do what you have to do, and take care of yourself!
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I only work from hotels so I can’t work...if I had my own incall place Then I probably would still work, I would prob only see the odd reg here and there until the lockdown was over .. i been abit more prepared for this second lockdown.. I have saved up monies to make sure I have got enough to tie me over until restrictions get lifted..
Me too i use hotels so cannot even if i wanted to. I dont blame others for breaking rules especially this time round as
It can put some of you on here in worse debt and some are already having a hard time right now earning. The government help is not good enough for some or some will not qualify for it.
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I totally complied last time but I just don't feel the same this time around and if I can see the occasional reg then I will.
A couple a week would do just to keep me ticking over so as not to dip into savings.
The darker nights help, about the only up side to them but as someone else said, I won't be advertising or putting my number up.
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I'm going to continue my 3 days a week and see how it goes. I see 4 a day. I think there's going to be tons of rule breakers this time.
I think there will be a lot more rule breakers as in punters too from what guys I've seen recently have said so should be a reasonable amount of business around for those who want to carry on working.
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I don't think anyone should feel guilty at all, We are adults and make grown up choices as do our clients who choose to visit us. You need to pay Bill's or whatever and that's fine too. If I didn't have neighbours I'd be open for buissness but due to the worry of the rules and neighbours I need to limit or adapt the way I work. I'm thinking after dark and will definitely be down with earning potential but enough to survive and pay my bills. I hate looking over my shoulder but that's how it feels lately, Had to give up my work apartment in first lockdown but I feel privileged I could afford one anyway. We have to adapt and either people will follow strict rules or decide as an adult not to, If I get work it will be from adults that have made a choice to visit me and I know I wouldn't work if I felt rubbish. And I know, From my personal experience, many are lonely too and feel maybe that being mid sixties they want to enjoy life and have some fun.
But i really don't think OP or anyone should feel guilty, Just strange times right now and survival is survival.
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As a Postgrad masters student, I think even universal credit isn’t an option.
Apply anyway. You might be surprised. Always worth a try.
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I am not working (taking real-time bookings) during lockdown, and I won't be until probably mid next year. I stopped in September (I think? time's so warped right now) after only being back for about 6 weeks! I saw the numbers going up and made the decision that as a clinically vulnerable person (eg. very overweight) who is just on the cusp of being a vulnerable age for COVID deaths etc, it wasn't safe for me to continue. But not just that - I could be an asymptomatic carrier and infect someone and then they go off and infect their parents or granny or whoever... I just want to stay alive and/or not get Long-COVID (I personally know people who have died, and others who are now long-term disabled/sick) and I don't want to spread anything to anyone else's families.
The odd thing was is that during Lockdown No.1 I had so many booking enquiries. They wanted to see me NOW and TODAY and PLEASE PLEASE and I DON'T HAVE COVID and even LOL LIVE A LITTLE. I didn't take any bookings. Lockdown ended, I offered bookings again. Everyone went quiet. Not one booking from all those PLEASE TELL ME WHEN YOU'RE BACK etc. Now Lockdown No.2 is about to start and the requests are up again.
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I am not working (taking real-time bookings) during lockdown, and I won't be until probably mid next year. I stopped in September (I think? time's so warped right now) after only being back for about 6 weeks! I saw the numbers going up and made the decision that as a clinically vulnerable person (eg. very overweight) who is just on the cusp of being a vulnerable age for COVID deaths etc, it wasn't safe for me to continue. But not just that - I could be an asymptomatic carrier and infect someone and then they go off and infect their parents or granny or whoever... I just want to stay alive and/or not get Long-COVID (I personally know people who have died, and others who are now long-term disabled/sick) and I don't want to spread anything to anyone else's families.
The odd thing was is that during Lockdown No.1 I had so many booking enquiries. They wanted to see me NOW and TODAY and PLEASE PLEASE and I DON'T HAVE COVID and even LOL LIVE A LITTLE. I didn't take any bookings. Lockdown ended, I offered bookings again. Everyone went quiet. Not one booking from all those PLEASE TELL ME WHEN YOU'RE BACK etc. Now Lockdown No.2 is about to start and the requests are up again.
Ditto x2
Plus, the whole point of lockdown is to stop mixing with other people and thus potentially spread the disease. The more people break it, the longer lockdown will last and/or the more we'll have.
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Well, I don't have anyone to infect. Also, if people don't social distance themselves with me, it's not my fault if I did catch it, was asymptomatic and passed it on to them. If people wanna break the rules with me, it's their risk and my risk. I live alone and do the mask thing elsewhere. I'll risk it.
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I can't live on fresh air and the SEISS is only 55% this time so I will aim to have 3 meets weekly throughout. Checking carefully their occupation....
Luckily my main regular is coming tomorrow for 2 hours whoopie! He works on his own so is a good bet.
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I can't live on fresh air and the SEISS is only 55% this time
Changed today - it's 80% again. :)
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Me too i use hotels so cannot even if i wanted to. I dont blame others for breaking rules especially this time round as
It can put some of you on here in worse debt and some are already having a hard time right now earning. The government help is not good enough for some or some will not qualify for it.
Right exactly. I don’t qualify for government help so no choice but to work this lockdown. Or I will fall into a pit of debt. Remains to be seen if demand is there however.
I’m seeing as few clients as possible with service restrictions, same as since I came back after Lockdown1
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Yes it really is good news ref the SEISS isn't it!
Having checked over my finances I still need a few hundred quid this side of Xmas so will see max 2 clients a week or something.
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I don’t intend to work through lockdown but I’m bored shitless already ::)
I’m hoping to hit it hard in December though so if lockdown gets extended I’m going to be fuming!
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Hi I did my last tour last week just before lockdown came in and was very busy all the days i was there. I’m taking a month off with lockdown but my friend has carried on touring and is still busy so there is work out there if you still want to work this month xx
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I worked in Bristol yesterday and was busy back the back. Don’t see any change now. I feel like because it’s not total lock down ie they can do school runs etc they have an excuse to be out. If you have an incall to work from its busy. Lots of girls on the rental threads here offering spare rooms to work from if anyone wants to tour you just got to be clever about it. There will be a lot more clients now a vaccine is on the way as well I think.
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I worked in Bristol yesterday and was busy back the back. Don’t see any change now. I feel like because it’s not total lock down ie they can do school runs etc they have an excuse to be out. If you have an incall to work from its busy. Lots of girls on the rental threads here offering spare rooms to work from if anyone wants to tour you just got to be clever about it. There will be a lot more clients now a vaccine is on the way as well I think.
I think if you tour and have a apartment you could do ok but i think hotels are not a good idea in lockdown even if you tell them your homeless or a key worker, too much pressure and anxiety.
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I worked in Bristol yesterday and was busy back the back. Don’t see any change now. I feel like because it’s not total lock down ie they can do school runs etc they have an excuse to be out. If you have an incall to work from its busy. Lots of girls on the rental threads here offering spare rooms to work from if anyone wants to tour you just got to be clever about it. There will be a lot more clients now a vaccine is on the way as well I think.
The vaccine is still at least a few weeks away, and longer for the general public.
It's also worth reminding people that you're vulnerable to being fined if anyone reports you for breaking lockdown (in England).
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Just a thought that I had re the new vaccine (obviously once it's available): some guys will try to convince you that they've had the vaccine in order for you to see them. Don't trust them. It will be rolled out according to age and/or sector. It will be voluntary. It was explained during the last press briefing that they plan to do it starting with the over 80s and frontline NHS staff, then roll from there. So keep an eye on where they are in the vaccination programme at any point in time, so that you know when you're talking to a 50 year old accountant who swears he's been vaccinated, and the info says it's currently "over 65s and teachers", you know he's trying it on.
I have had quite a few "I'm immune" and "I've already had it" and "I haven't got it" messages, so I'm just thinking out loud here for when the guys start with the "I was vaccinated last week" comments!
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Just a thought that I had re the new vaccine (obviously once it's available): some guys will try to convince you that they've had the vaccine in order for you to see them. Don't trust them. It will be rolled out according to age and/or sector. It will be voluntary. It was explained during the last press briefing that they plan to do it starting with the over 80s and frontline NHS staff, then roll from there. So keep an eye on where they are in the vaccination programme at any point in time, so that you know when you're talking to a 50 year old accountant who swears he's been vaccinated, and the info says it's currently "over 65s and teachers", you know he's trying it on.
I have had quite a few "I'm immune" and "I've already had it" and "I haven't got it" messages, so I'm just thinking out loud here for when the guys start with the "I was vaccinated last week" comments!
Ha- to add to this, yes they definitely will try it on with the whole 'I've been vaccinated' thing: Got a msg at 3am from some drongo saying that he would like to come see me and that it was safe to do so as he 'had the vaccine an hour ago coz it has just been approved.' :FF :FF
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To be fair, I can see it popping up on a fair few ads as well ::);D
I'm not working today but I've still turned five bookings away, four of which I would have done. I'm currently deciding whether to put my number back on AW next week but it's so nice and quiet without the twatcalls I might just skip it :)
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Ha- to add to this, yes they definitely will try it on with the whole 'I've been vaccinated' thing: Got a msg at 3am from some drongo saying that he would like to come see me and that it was safe to do so as he 'had the vaccine an hour ago coz it has just been approved.' :FF :FF
;D ;D ;D That idiot must think your a thick as thick. So he has access to the vaccine before it is even landed in the UK and released dick head hahahah
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I have seen a few regulars.
Taken my no off AW because I was getting a lot of twats wanting discount
''because you must need the cash''.
Er, no.
I know there is a risk , but I figure that there always is.
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Ha- to add to this, yes they definitely will try it on with the whole 'I've been vaccinated' thing: Got a msg at 3am from some drongo saying that he would like to come see me and that it was safe to do so as he 'had the vaccine an hour ago coz it has just been approved.' :FF :FF
LMFAO!! I KNEW IT! I just didn't think they (the bullshitters!) would start quite this soon!
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Ha- to add to this, yes they definitely will try it on with the whole 'I've been vaccinated' thing: Got a msg at 3am from some drongo saying that he would like to come see me and that it was safe to do so as he 'had the vaccine an hour ago coz it has just been approved.' :FF :FF
Best to ask the drongo whose vaccine did he take, and who 'approved' it? Might give you a few laughs, but I'd be curious about their answer and how fast he creates it.
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The lockdowns not stopped any of my regulars wanting to book me and I've had new enquiries but I'm having to go from working days to evenings so I've had to adapt a bit. I've avoided VS so no timewasters for weeks, Amazing how many TW come from that site and it's not cheap to advertise on it. I'm actually enjoying having my days to myself and find evening bookings feel better and great for mood lighting lol.
I personally wouldn't choose to see anyone because they did or did not have the vaccine, Like I wouldn't the flu jab. I suppose my older clients will feel safer if they had the vaccine and venture out and see me so that's a positive, But for my own protection I'm counting on my own immune system and vetting guys, Like already mentioned there's always a risk to this job.
It's a pain as I had to cancel a few planned serviced apartments this month but saving on travel and with most things closed no temptation to spend or eat out.
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It's dead right now, but also, I have my period and three family birthday's this month so I am cool with it. Looking forward to getting back in December.
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Looking forward to getting back in December.
That is assuming we go out of lockdown in December... because if bloody lockdown continues thru December forget about your phones ringing.
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I think I heard on the news that the next two weeks are crucial in stabilizing the R rate, so if it comes down some more, some restrictions might be lifted.
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For me it's been unusually quiet last 2 days and no enquiries on AW and not even timewasters, I think the lockdown may make clients more anxious and more cautious and possibly with partners at home or just need to spend less with Xmas coming. When the last lockdown ended I was back to busy but I think it's possible lockdown may go on past the 2nd of December so I'm already getting mentally prepared and also trying not to spend on anything unnecessary. I haven't been a escort long enough to compare the lead up to Christmas so that might factor into it being slower.
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On one had it's great that the timewasters on AW have finally vanished, but my god, it is silent. I've not had a private gallery sale for a fortnight now, and that's never happened before. I've even added a few new pictures too, and still nothing.
I also fear lockdown might continue past 2 December, and have more of less written off the rest of this year tbh. It's so frustrating, I'm holding a lot of deposits for appointments yet to be confirmed, many of which were taken back during the last lockdown.
This year has been crazy. 2021 must be better!
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On one had it's great that the timewasters on AW have finally vanished, but my god, it is silent. I've not had a private gallery sale for a fortnight now, and that's never happened before. I've even added a few new pictures too, and still nothing.
I also fear lockdown might continue past 2 December, and have more of less written off the rest of this year tbh. It's so frustrating, I'm holding a lot of deposits for appointments yet to be confirmed, many of which were taken back during the last lockdown.
This year has been crazy. 2021 must be better!
I'm still getting a few regulars enquiring about bookings but the thought of neighbours seeing anyone coming in is making me jumpy.
I also think we'll be lucky to get out of this lockdown on Dec 2nd, I think they'll tag a bit longer on when it comes to it.
My private gallery sales are practically none existant too which I find very odd as were doing well before lockdown and can't think of a reason for it.
I'm not convinced next year will be much better, not until summer anyway. On tv today there was opinion that things may not be back to anything like normal until this time next year :-[
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I'm still getting a few regulars enquiring about bookings but the thought of neighbours seeing anyone coming in is making me jumpy.
I also think we'll be lucky to get out of this lockdown on Dec 2nd, I think they'll tag a bit longer on when it comes to it.
My private gallery sales are practically none existant too which I find very odd as were doing well before lockdown and can't think of a reason for it.
I'm not convinced next year will be much better, not until summer anyway. On tv today there was opinion that things may not be back to anything like normal until this time next year :-[
I had the same uneasy feelings about Incalls and neighbours being more watchful or just at home more so I haven't dared to do daytime bookings while in lockdown so only after 5pm when it's dark. Actually prefer working evenings now but before first lockdown I had more daytime meets and most of those regulars I haven't seen since March.
Also my private gallery sales are near non existent last 2 weeks. I've got a bit more stressed with all the extra worry covid brings with working but now thinking of concentrating on other things for the next few weeks like working out and bringing my anxiety down so I'll be in better shape mentally to start again when hopefully we can and just tale the work when it comes.
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I have noticed I am seeing more the builder/electrician type client as they are the ones still able to get about their job.
Middle class clients have vanished at the minute!
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I have noticed I am seeing more the builder/electrician type client as they are the ones still able to get about their job.
Middle class clients have vanished at the minute!
Those are stuck at home working from home instead of the office.
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I have noticed I am seeing more the builder/electrician type client as they are the ones still able to get about their job.
Middle class clients have vanished at the minute!
An tourists! and the travelling business crowd! >:(
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I had the same uneasy feelings about Incalls and neighbours being more watchful or just at home more so I haven't dared to do daytime bookings while in lockdown so only after 5pm when it's dark. Actually prefer working evenings now but before first lockdown I had more daytime meets and most of those regulars I haven't seen since March.
Also my private gallery sales are near non existent last 2 weeks. I've got a bit more stressed with all the extra worry covid brings with working but now thinking of concentrating on other things for the next few weeks like working out and bringing my anxiety down so I'll be in better shape mentally to start again when hopefully we can and just tale the work when it comes.
Also noticed a drop in private gallery and movie sales...
But strangely not in bookings
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I had assumed the more middle class clients were trapped at home with the wives, both working at home ...
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I've got one middle class regular who tells his wife he's doing supermarket shopping. There's always a long queue and only one person allowed so no couples in case she wants to tag along. Oh and the traffic
However one time he almost got found out when he had his t shirt inside out when he returned home.
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I've got one middle class regular who tells his wife he's doing supermarket shopping. There's always a long queue and only one person allowed so no couples in case she wants to tag along. Oh and the traffic
However one time he almost got found out when he had his t shirt inside out when he returned home.
I hope that you are quick enough with him that the ice cream doesn't melt! :)
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Hey
I’m wondering if it’s only me getting this hassle since the pandemic or are other ladies having the same issues as me .. since the the pandemic I have noticed all I’m getting is very nasty clients emailing me and if they do book me when I work they end up being boundary pushers attempting bb, or being really rough in the room pulling my hair etc.. really not nice clients to see..
I’m dreading dec when it comes to me going back to work, , the ones who I don’t want to see are already trying to email me asking me to see them. I have noticed loads of abusive emails lately in my inbox.. I hardly Ever used to get this hassle that much before the pandemic.. it’s like all the undesirables all of a sudden want to come out and play..
Wtf
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Hey
I’m wondering if it’s only me getting this hassle since the pandemic or are other ladies having the same issues as me .. since the the pandemic I have noticed all I’m getting is very nasty clients emailing me and if they do book me when I work they end up being boundary pushers attempting bb, really not nice clients to see..
I’m dreading dec when it comes to me going back to work, , the ones who I don’t want to see are already trying to email me asking me to see them. I have noticed loads of abusive emails lately in my inbox.. I hardly Ever used to get this hassle that much before the pandemic.. it’s like all the undesirables all of a sudden want to come out and play..
Wtf
I have actually used the crisis to confront a few TWs and rude, disrespectful people. It's a really difficult time, and last thing anyone needs is this sort of hassle. Feel a lot better also the decent clients do and will come through.
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Hey
I’m wondering if it’s only me getting this hassle since the pandemic or are other ladies having the same issues as me .. since the the pandemic I have noticed all I’m getting is very nasty clients emailing me and if they do book me when I work they end up being boundary pushers attempting bb, really not nice clients to see..
I’m dreading dec when it comes to me going back to work, , the ones who I don’t want to see are already trying to email me asking me to see them. I have noticed loads of abusive emails lately in my inbox.. I hardly Ever used to get this hassle that much before the pandemic.. it’s like all the undesirables all of a sudden want to come out and play..
Wtf
That's the main reason I'm not seeing anyone new. I had one, lovely newbie the other week, but that's the exception. Not taking the chance again. It's mostly timewasters for me ::)
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Hey
I’m wondering if it’s only me getting this hassle since the pandemic or are other ladies having the same issues as me .. since the the pandemic I have noticed all I’m getting is very nasty clients emailing me and if they do book me when I work they end up being boundary pushers attempting bb, or being really rough in the room pulling my hair etc.. really not nice clients to see..
I’m dreading dec when it comes to me going back to work, , the ones who I don’t want to see are already trying to email me asking me to see them. I have noticed loads of abusive emails lately in my inbox.. I hardly Ever used to get this hassle that much before the pandemic.. it’s like all the undesirables all of a sudden want to come out and play..
Wtf
My guess is they think any escort working during lockdown is 'desperate', so they can take advantage.
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My guess is they think any escort working during lockdown is 'desperate', so they can take advantage.
Yes I think your right
they must think working girls will put up with it as we must need the money desperately.. Little do they know if I was skint I would rather live of super noodles than have to put with undesirables..
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Also a pandemic won't stop people who have no intention of booking.
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Well I'm working and haven't had any nasty men message me. I get the long rambling emails that I scan and ignore but no nastiness for me.
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Yes I think your right
they must think working girls will put up with it as we must need the money desperately.. Little do they know if I was skint I would rather live of super noodles than have to put with undesirables..
I’ve become stricter if anything even tho things are desperately slow but the amount of undesirables has been really high. A combination of too much time and dickheads becoming extreme dickheads, plus less of us to go around I guess so more idiots per escort
I think many guys are just seeing regulars, fair enough but for those who for whatever reason haven’t got many regulars (new area just prior to lockdown etc) then get the dregs a lot of the time on the phone. And very few genuine enquiries
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I’ve become stricter if anything even tho things are desperately slow but the amount of undesirables has been really high. A combination of too much time and dickheads becoming extreme dickheads, plus less of us to go around I guess so more idiots per escort
I think many guys are just seeing regulars, fair enough but for those who for whatever reason haven’t got many regulars (new area just prior to lockdown etc) then get the dregs a lot of the time on the phone. And very few genuine enquiries
I suspect there are the same number of undesirables, but the new problem is there fewer desirable clients able to see us for various reasons: taking the lockdown seriously, fewer excuses to leave home, etc. So undesirables are much more noticeable because they are much higher percentage.
Two of my clients today are regulars, and both mentioned they had to find a reason to visit their business today so they could see me. I'm focusing on my trusted and dependable regulars.
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Had a (yet another) guy over the weekend, when I told him I am not seeing anyone cos Lockdown, tell me that the Lockdown "isn't in your area".
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I've had to decline more returning bookings because of the pushing of boundaries on the first visit during with BB and the guy that put numbing cream on his penis which was horrid, And even with duo bookings a guy was trying to be sneaky and I had to take cramp in my food to help my duo partner out. Saying that I have managed to have made a few nice regulars but less of my usual.type I attract are booking me. Guys are having to stick closer to home, Towns have offices closed and Working from home with partner, shielding or just cautious. So it's no surprise we might struggle getting nice new guys. Those with regulars can keep rates at a good level but I imagine with no regulars then it must be tough.
I've gone up with my rates to weed out the less desirable so if I just do one booking a day for the 3 days I work I can cover bills. But for now I'm put of action until the 3rd if all goes well.
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I suspect there are the same number of undesirables, but the new problem is there fewer desirable clients able to see us for various reasons: taking the lockdown seriously, fewer excuses to leave home, etc. So undesirables are much more noticeable because they are much higher percentage.
Two of my clients today are regulars, and both mentioned they had to find a reason to visit their business today so they could see me. I'm focusing on my trusted and dependable regulars.
I wish I could do that but arriving in this area just prior to the first lockdown, obviously taking a few months out, then just try building up regulars during a pandemic, nigh on impossible I tell you.
Devastating for me, I’ve done everything I can but now I’ve run out of options
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TLT are you just going to carry on as you are and ride the tide until next spring or whenever things get any better. I worked yesterday and saw just one.
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TLT are you just going to carry on as you are and ride the tide until next spring or whenever things get any better. I worked yesterday and saw just one.
Trying to. But financially without many regulars things are extremely tough. The timewasters are just at an all time high
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Trying to. But financially without many regulars things are extremely tough. The timewasters are just at an all time high
Sorry to hear you are having such a tough time.
Not sure how you are advertising but I would suggest not advertising AT or even putting your number on which may sound odd but I find both just attract the timewasters at the minute.
I am also getting a large amount of emails from guys with no feedback which I view with caution.
Rigorous screening is everything just now.
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I am also getting a large amount of emails from guys with no feedback which I view with caution.
Me too, almost every single one is from men with no feedback, at least two of which is asking me about someone else and one of which was enquiring for next year! It really is tw central right now, luckily I am not desperate for money right now but I AM desperate for something to do, I am pretty bored.
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The guys are definitely more ropey at the moment.
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Me too, almost every single one is from men with no feedback, at least two of which is asking me about someone else and one of which was enquiring for next year! It really is tw central right now, luckily I am not desperate for money right now but I AM desperate for something to do, I am pretty bored.
Take up knitting, painting, walking. Or even look for something else to do part time to bring in extra income :) I find I go mad if having to deal with twats all the time. Unless you're really strugglung financially, I find the money isn't worth it.
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I’m in Bath normally super busy and nothing. It’s so awful when you have paid for the incall and it’s just waste men calling you. I’ve got people begging to see me that I know are dangerous from looking up their numbers. I think the quality clients are either working from home or saving money for Xmas.
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I just hope that after the 2nd and lockdown things pick up like after the last lockdown. I've booked a place for 4 nights and I hope it's better than the last few weeks. I'm thinking of dropping my rates a bit because I'd rather be busy and make money for xmas. But here in Essex it's been flooded with new girls and maybe because London is quiet.
Has anyone found dropping rates a bit makes any difference in these current times? I just worry I'll get those bargain loving punters that then will write a detailed report on me, This happened to me when I was cheaper and it was not nice to read.
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Sorry to hear you are having such a tough time.
Not sure how you are advertising but I would suggest not advertising AT or even putting your number on which may sound odd but I find both just attract the timewasters at the minute.
I am also getting a large amount of emails from guys with no feedback which I view with caution.
Rigorous screening is everything just now.
Thanks. I think on the whole you are probably right re. AW. Mostly I’m getting very few from there. So I had no choice but to be on Viva last few months which got some bookings but last couple of weeks even there is very slow.
I’ve just heard my area is one of the few in Southern England to be in Tier3 - my town has low cases but most of the county does not - so that’s just pretty disastrous as lockdown saw a big fall in demand and therefore income.
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I'm relieved to find my county in Tier 1, but the nearest city to me, where I usually work, is in Tier 2. I know I can work here in my home county easy enough but not sure about travelling and staying a couple of nights to work in the Tier 2 area. Can't really see what the difference between the two tiers is and need to go where the work is but not sure if it will be a problem with the hotels.
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Are hotels going to be open with tier 2 ?? I’m so confused about the whole thing, I was hoping to get back to incalls from December. But apparently not ?? So frustratin!
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Tier 2 hotels can open as usual but not tier 3.
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And they'll be reviewing it all in a couple of weeks, so some places may move up and others may move down.
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Hey ladies, how has it been for you lately? Just wanted to know if things have gotten busier/better. I've been doing online work whilst rebranding so I've taken time off.
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Hey ladies, how has it been for you lately? Just wanted to know if things have gotten busier/better. I've been doing online work whilst rebranding so I've taken time off.
I’ve been picking up lately, but was quiet for a good while.
In questions and answers topic, there’s a thread called ‘slow at the minute or just me’
There’s a lot of comments about how things are for different ladies in different areas. You might find it handy to have a read through last few pages. Not sure what area you are in! :)
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I've been touring this month and it was crazy busy!
How do you guys think it will be in January, February?
It's usually quieter this time of year + COVID + Brexit!
I know we never know but... I'm wandering if any of you have some predictions?
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I've given up predicting anything anymore and it's more just living month to month and seeing what the government tell us what we can do. Works been steady but not like it was last year.
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I've been touring this month and it was crazy busy!
How do you guys think it will be in January, February?
It's usually quieter this time of year + COVID + Brexit!
I know we never know but... I'm wandering if any of you have some predictions?
Not a clue I suspect some will just be so fed up they'll book anyway, others don't have so far income affected. It's the people who rely on being places for their bookings which I think will be most affected.
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I’ve been picking up lately, but was quiet for a good while.
In questions and answers topic, there’s a thread called ‘slow at the minute or just me’
There’s a lot of comments about how things are for different ladies in different areas. You might find it handy to have a read through last few pages. Not sure what area you are in! :)
Thank you. Yes, I've had a read through but I forgot about it. I'm in Earl's Court but am waiting to advertise and get a more professional shoot in, first.
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Thank you. Yes, I've had a read through but I forgot about it. I'm in Earl's Court but am waiting to advertise and get a more professional shoot in, first.
I have never used professional pictures and it has never been a hindrance. Some men like the intimacy of non-professional photos.
Just get stuck in!
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am waiting to advertise and get a more professional shoot in, first.
To echo TMM- I have never used professional photos and haven't found it to be an issue. I just use my phone. Give it a go and see how you get on :D
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To echo TMM- I have never used professional photos and haven't found it to be an issue. I just use my phone. Give it a go and see how you get on :D
The last time I had pro pictures was about 10-12 years ago - I hated the whole process so much I've taken my own ever since. Punters much preferred them to the others from the word go :)
Back on topic, I've likely just lost a dinner date booking on Friday thanks to the tier-changing fuckers, and right after I've bought nearly all the Christmas stuff and then had to fork out for an emergency boiler repair. Bastards >:(
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Amy, not that it's any consolation, I've lost a dinner date too thanks to London going into tier 3. I suspect my overnight in Paris in early January will be a no go either. Sigh.
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just waiting for tomorrow, tiers should be in place but I am offering outcalls either way whether I'm in Kent or hours journey from London Victoria. Best to prepare for every eventuality at this point.
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*sigh* The travellers will stop coming now, dammit, I was just getting used to the upswing as well.
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Yesterday I had a good day, and the day before... today seems really quiet and I have just a booking later today (thanks God I know him and he's reliable) I've managed to do a booking for tomorrow as well, but he still needs to confirm me in the morning so.. nothing is for sure.
I feel like this year has been a waste of (my life) our lives and potential of making money.. reading news about covid doesn't help me at all so I just stopped ( best for my mental health) but the time wasters has increased a lottt. The other day I had one confirming and then no show ( and I did sent him address when confirmed >:D ) they are complaining about our bad comms, but what about them!!???
Really slow :(
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I've had so many timewasters and now in tier 3 but getting an average of 3 bookings a day and I put my price down a bit which is pulling in some guys that had seen me at my lower rates. Sharing accommodation with a friend helped me mentally as it can be frustrating and lonely trying to get genuine bookings in, helps with the rent on a serviced apartment and as I'm not as busy as I was it's worked so well and we all need to vent to someone. But i plan on doing one last weekend and then off til mid January.
I feel similar to you denise, This year's been tiring both mentally and physically but as long as the powers of be let us live with covid nect year and the vaccine, we should get back to the way things had been before covid. It's been hard for most people. Morale is low everywhere. Limited travel and accomodation is blocking most of us from making a good living. I'm happy with any profit at the moment with a family to support.
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I really do feel that until there is full vaccine rollout we will struggle to get enough work.
So that will be a year or more. Then there is the economic fallout from all of this. Just hoping I can use hotels again from May/June as I will have had my vaccine by then.
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Well since I decided to pack up for the festive early I have been swamped with requests. Sods law.
Regulars have all vamoosed however.
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Given Northern Ireland is going into to a full (and strict) 6 week lockdown from Boxing Day, I have decided to write off January and February too as I suspect England will follow suit.
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With furlough extended to April I imagine lockdowns and changing of tier levels is planned to go on up until then. What's annoying is the government already know what they plan to do but give 2 days notice. So its impossible to plan ahead or even have an idea of what we may earn, Stay or even save. And that's for many and not just us. It's the uncertainty that adds to worry. I don't want to book any apartments for January because who knows. Still be work around but sporadic, My AW messages are non existent yet clips and gallery sales up. Going to switch off the week before and after Xmas and see what boris and sage tell us to do. But it's a game of hockey Cokey.
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I hate the fact we have very little control over our businesses at the moment and cannot plan like we would do as a rule.
I hope things are calmer by late spring/early summer.
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And the questions, Today a guy asks if I'm available and then ends with...."I worry about these rules and malicious reporters!!!! Grown men should do as they feel is safe but why keep questioning us for our choice to work or try and plant seeds of doubt in our actions. So many have since the beginning of lockdown. At first I cared but now I realise everyone is divided and either fearful and cautious and will hide away or those that make their own choices to take take their chances or have no choice financially. But the questioning of my choice to work gets my goat. In a few years we can hopefully fully reflect on this year and what may follow and judge the situation and ourselves. I already regret not working during first lockdown with reflection now. And glad I've done what work I can to not be in debt. Sorry for the rant, Having a rubbish month with shoulder pain and pushing myself physically and mentally. I appreciate so many of us are in the same boat or worse.
Decided to work this weekend but already I feel it's going to be hit and miss and will have more questions and timewasters.
Hope others are doing well and hugs to those feeling the strain.
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London going into Tier 4 for the rest of the month now. Only allowed to see one person outside your bubble outside.
This scuppers a lot of potential to work for me.
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London going into Tier 4 for the rest of the month now. Only allowed to see one person outside your bubble outside.
This scuppers a lot of potential to work for me.
London and many other areas:
https://www. bbc. co.uk/news/explainers-52530518
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London going into Tier 4 for the rest of the month now. Only allowed to see one person outside your bubble outside.
This scuppers a lot of potential to work for me.
as I use hotels I’m pretty much fucked for the time being. There’s always the outcall option but very few of my clients are unattached so I won’t hold my breath on that one. I certainly won’t be offering incalls from my home.
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as I use hotels I’m pretty much fucked for the time being. There’s always the outcall option but very few of my clients are unattached so I won’t hold my breath on that one. I certainly won’t be offering incalls from my home.
I can't, I don't live alone. So I feel you. At least 60% of my outcall bookings are hotel travellers. So that sucks.
Oh well, just going to rest easy at home.
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Came here to check & see how everyone was doing, I just heard about London going into the Tier 4 lockdown!😳 I’m so sorry, you guys!!!
Everyone ok? Honestly, can I send anyone a little something? Truly? This is awful for y’all, *anxious look*.
Our new prez Biden is wanting to do a mandatory 100 day “every single person in America needs to wear a mask😷.” thing once he gets into office... I don’t see that ending well, myself. I’m a faithful mask wearer, it’s fine, no big deal, just wear the thing already.
Americans. Give us liberty🗽or give us death, smh🤦🏼♀️. Yeesh.
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Honestly Celeste, it's no more a 'lockdown' than anything else we've had in the last few months - nobody is being sealed in their buildings to wait for food drops from the army or having their papers checked on their street corner when they nip out for some milk and a KitKat. Unfortunately this sort of ridiculous, dramatic tabloid language isn't going to have it's fun spoilt by actual reality when they can sell more shitrags by stirring up a panic ::)
It's not such bad timing for me as I was packing up before going home for Christmas anyway and it's unlikely I would have time to do any more bookings inbetween last bits of laundry, shopping and so on but then I've had a few decent weeks and can coast a bit. The hotels being closed would be the big difference to most people here I would think (and expensive as my flat is, I'm bloody glad I got it when I did).
I'll just remind everybody that they can still apply for.the current SEISS grant if they haven't already (I wasn't going to as I was ticking over fine, but I have now), and also that we still have some food vouchers available for anybody really stuck - I can't remember how many, but they definitely haven't run out :).
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Ah ok, TY Amy. There were some posts on Reddit that were making it sound like Rommel was coming through & the London Blitz was happening all over again. I literally had visions of y’all huddling in train tunnels, except you can’t DO that bc well, social distancing.
Reddit = Chicken Little-ing.
In any event, I hope you guys are ok.♥️
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Well I don't know anything about reddit apart from that it is/has a forum and is therefore off topic here anyway, but it's generally safe to say that anywhere where anonymous randoms can share their views online should be taken with a bucketload of salt ;D
I've had two texts today asking about bookings tomorrow and Tuesday, so I can only assume that some of the people who are no longer travelling to visit with friends or family members will be kicking their heels looking for things to do, plus at least a handful will now have an unexpected few days off.
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I have never used professional pictures and it has never been a hindrance. Some men like the intimacy of non-professional photos.
Just get stuck in!
You're correct.
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Ah ok, TY Amy. There were some posts on Reddit that were making it sound like Rommel was coming through & the London Blitz was happening all over again. I literally had visions of y’all huddling in train tunnels, except you can’t DO that bc well, social distancing.
Reddit = Chicken Little-ing.
In any event, I hope you guys are ok.♥️
Former American in London here. Amy is correct. Lockdown in the US/other countries vs Lockdown in some places in the UK (particularly London) is very light. You can exercise, meet friends out within your social bubble, grab groceries, or take-a-way, coffee, etc walk in the parks, wear your mask or not (unless you're in stores that require it), etc. When I was in The Balkan region we were under 24h(3 months straight), with 1h to shop IF we got permission a day before from the government, only. Interestingly enough, we had the lowest covid # and deaths. I'm actually heading back and will come back to the UK after things get better.
Covid has effected my non bookings so much I'm just going to fly back to Southeast Europe and work on myself and try again. ;D
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Has anyone else have clients cancel future booking because they don't feel safe in areas reported in the news as high cases of covid?
I've had two today cancel saying they don't feel safe and wouldn't want to give me covid, These are regulars I've seen since end of first lockdown. I hope this is not going to mean clients are going to be scared off now with all the media pointing out counties and towns with highest cases :( I dif plan on booking a place for next month but really not feeling confident, The messages from these clients felt very judgemental, Like if they see I'm available then I don't care about my health or others. And there is speculation in the media of a Tier 5, Are we not already in lockdown/Tier 4?
I personally feel if they don't see me after seeing me available I don't care, I mean they thought it was fine before but now with the media putting out news of this mutant covid and areas with highest cases, Our lives are going to get more stressful around work and decisions to work.
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Are we not already in lockdown
No, and nor have we ever been (see also eliteone's post above). Tier 4 yes, not that it doesn't become more meaningless by the hour - will we eventually get to Tier 43? (and the schools would probably still be open then).
Nobody has cancelled bookings here, but I've been off since the 21st - I managed to spin the lost dinner date I mentioned earlier into a long incall with Deliveroo but that was before it all changed again and I've lost track now. I'm happy to do enough to cover rent and bills for now though :).
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Has anyone else have clients cancel future booking because they don't feel safe in areas reported in the news as high cases of covid?
Yes, I've also had a January booking in Paris cancelled due to a triple whammy of Brexit/travel restrictions and COVID, and the client is unable to leave the US. Other bookings I've taken deposits for that were pencilled in Jan, Feb and March 2021 have all been put on hold too.
It's a shitshow tbh.
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I'm just happy to tick over until spring really. The flat I use for work is so nice, I often find clients rude for interrupting me anyway ha.ha.ha. Those judgemental ones are annoying although all I've been asked is how I'm staying safe in a booking. That was a regular and I just hung up on him because it's a naff question in my view.
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I'm just happy to tick over until spring really. The flat I use for work is so nice, I often find clients rude for interrupting me anyway ha.ha.ha. Those judgemental ones are annoying although all I've been asked is how I'm staying safe in a booking. That was a regular and I just hung up on him because it's a naff question in my view.
A really stupid question asking how you are staying safe. If anyone is doing sex work there is no really safe way to stay safe. I suppose outside of sex working days you can try to limit contact with others and hand sanitize regularly if going bank or food shopping but nothing else can be done.
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A really stupid question asking how you are staying safe. If anyone is doing sex work there is no really safe way to stay safe. I suppose outside of sex working days you can try to limit contact with others and hand sanitize regularly if going bank or food shopping but nothing else can be done.
Outside. Doggy position. Masks on. Lol.
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The only thing I’ve noticed is that nothing not even Covid 19 will stop a man who wants to get laid
I did think initially when I started back that it would be quiet or dead even and punters wouldn’t punt but that’s really not been the case as far as I can see .
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I am only going to meet with clients I know until the spring when in theory things will be a lot calmer.
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Just for curiosity some of you guys are working in the pandemic and is so tempting as I am not working because of the pandemic I was just wondering how you guys are keeping safe while escorting have you encounter with any covid contamination just for curiosity and all comments are welcome.
Stay safe guys and love you all.😚😘
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Since the new variant only meeting with clients who have visited me before, as mentioned above.
In addition throughout the pandemic I have always vetted their occupation. High risk occupations are no go. I don't meet with those who work in warehouses factories or offices either right now.
Hope this vaccine rollout is going to help matters but with the buffoons in government I still think this coming year will be a bit crap.
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Well I was working in a massage parlour at the moment, but that's obviously shut again now, so I'm pretty despairing :(
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Just for curiosity some of you guys are working in the pandemic and is so tempting as I am not working because of the pandemic I was just wondering how you guys are keeping safe while escorting have you encounter with any covid contamination just for curiosity and all comments are welcome.
Stay safe guys and love you all.😚😘
Regulars only at the moment.
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In addition throughout the pandemic I have always vetted their occupation. High risk occupations are no go. I don't meet with those who work in warehouses factories or offices either right now.
Even assuming that the punters tell the truth (and I know I wouldn't), how are these 'high risk' occupations compared with (say) teachers, paramedics, supermarket workers?
And does 'meet with' mean incalls or are you actually going out and meeting them somewhere in the fresh air? (I only ask because I keep getting emails from numpty central AW asking me to 'meet up' with them and they go straight in the bin.)
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I don't think that apart from not working you can be sure that you won't catch covid even if just seeing regulars, We really have no idea if they are just seeing us and also what they get up to in their daily life. I haven't done anything different, I do feel a bit more worried with the stories of people with no underlying health problems dying from covid and if we go into tier 5 I will just stop working as it's such a hassle and I think it's going to get quiet. I personally try and take supplements that helps my immune system and N acetyl cysteine is something to look into as protective supplement but apart from washing hands and Hand sanitizer that's all I'm doing. I don't have any family to shield or any serious health concerns of my own. I have refused to see anyone I know has health problems but knowing this with New clients would require asking them. Working next week but not feeling super enthusiastic or sure if I'll have work. But I don't think there's anyway to be 100% safe and work it's a risk but so is working in a supermarket or having kids go to school.
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Just for curiosity some of you guys are working in the pandemic and is so tempting as I am not working because of the pandemic I was just wondering how you guys are keeping safe while escorting have you encounter with any covid contamination just for curiosity and all comments are welcome.
Stay safe guys and love you all.😚😘
Especially with the new, more contagious variant, it's impossible to do physical meets 'safely' in my view.
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I don't think that apart from not working you can be sure that you won't catch covid even if just seeing regulars, We really have no idea if they are just seeing us and also what they get up to in their daily life. I haven't done anything different, I do feel a bit more worried with the stories of people with no underlying health problems dying from covid and if we go into tier 5 I will just stop working as it's such a hassle and I think it's going to get quiet. I personally try and take supplements that helps my immune system and N acetyl cysteine is something to look into as protective supplement but apart from washing hands and Hand sanitizer that's all I'm doing. I don't have any family to shield or any serious health concerns of my own. I have refused to see anyone I know has health problems but knowing this with New clients would require asking them. Working next week but not feeling super enthusiastic or sure if I'll have work. But I don't think there's anyway to be 100% safe and work it's a risk but so is working in a supermarket or having kids go to school.
I don’t think the risk compares to working in a supermarket! how would you know if they have health problems? they are unlikely to be completely honest? Just curious what tier you are in?
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Tier 4 and the disabled clients that I have seen pre covid I have had to turn a few down and I would hope that anybody who knows they have health problems would be sensible and not risk their health visiting me. I don't ask them if they have health problems they should be responsible for their own health.
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Tier 4 and the disabled clients that I have seen pre covid I have had to turn a few down and I would hope that anybody who knows they have health problems would be sensible and not risk their health visiting me. I don't ask them if they have health problems they should be responsible for their own health.
You completely disregarded my comment about the comparison between this and working in a supermarket?
Tier 4? really? It’s not for me to judge
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You completely disregarded my comment about the comparison between this and working in a supermarket?
To be fair TT, your comment didn't make your point clear?
I've read it again and I don't understand what comparison you're making between sex work (close physical contact but brief and with relatively few people and far more control over what happens, the environment and the circumstances) and retail/supermarket work (less close physical proximity but with exposure to many times more people over a far greater time period, and little or no control over either their behaviour or the environment) either?
I do know which job I'd pick if I was concerned about catching a bug, and I've done them both.
Tier 4? really? It’s not for me to judge
No it certainly is not, and thanks for reminding everybody else :).
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To be fair TT, your comment didn't make your point clear?
I've read it again and I don't understand what comparison you're making between sex work (close physical contact but brief and with relatively few people and far more control over what happens, the environment and the circumstances) and retail/supermarket work (less close physical proximity but with exposure to many times more people over a far greater time period, and little or no control over either their behaviour or the environment) either?
I do know which job I'd pick if I was concerned about catching a bug, and I've done them both.
No it certainly is not, and thanks for reminding everybody else :).
Amy you know exactly what I’m saying!
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I have also worked in a supermarket and I feel much happier to have the choice to see 2 or 4 people a day than hundreds of strangers. Both my physical and mental health is much better in my chosen work escorting. And yes I'm working while in tier 4 and I really couldn't care if anyone did feel like judging me for. My choice and those clients that see me during tier 2, 3,4 or 5, They have made the choice. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to. I didn't work at all in the first lockdown but that was a personal choice and I didn't struggle with money as I'd saved. I didn't look down on anyone who did work because we can't judge a person's situation we don't know. So let's not make this about who's working what tier, Who cares as long as it's not forced and I'd rather someone work and pay bills and look after themselves and family rather than fear judgement and suffer financially.
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Still working I’m not mixing with anyone personally so wouldn’t spread the virus
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Still working I’m not mixing with anyone personally so wouldn’t spread the virus
Of course you could still be spreading it. What if you see a client that has got it (before symptoms are showing) He gives it to you that day, you then see five other clients that day and you give it to them and then they take it home to their family. So how would you not be spreading it? I’m not judging you for working but don’t be naive about how a virus spreads.
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I have also worked in a supermarket and I feel much happier to have the choice to see 2 or 4 people a day than hundreds of strangers. Both my physical and mental health is much better in my chosen work escorting. And yes I'm working while in tier 4 and I really couldn't care if anyone did feel like judging me for. My choice and those clients that see me during tier 2, 3,4 or 5, They have made the choice. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to. I didn't work at all in the first lockdown but that was a personal choice and I didn't struggle with money as I'd saved. I didn't look down on anyone who did work because we can't judge a person's situation we don't know. So let's not make this about who's working what tier, Who cares as long as it's not forced and I'd rather someone work and pay bills and look after themselves and family rather than fear judgement and suffer financially.
as long as you are ok with that and understand how the virus is spread
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Thick thighs. The one's that are working know by law there not supposed to and know the risks and know the virus is getting worse and hospitals getting crowded.
They do it for different reasons
1. Because they are struggling and have no money to survive on and no access to grants.
2. Because they have limited savings and don't want to get in a worse position and still have work flats to pay for etc and other debts.
3. Just greedy, they earn a lot, have plenty of savings but just money mad.
4. Ones that just don't care about the virus.
On the first lockdown i knew 1 lady that worked all the way through it and caught it and ended up in hospital in a bad way she thought she was going to die. She recovered but now has quit the industry and hated herself for not taking it serious. I think unless you catch it and are very ill or know people that have died you might have a different out look.
It is what it is just like all the ones that we're hanging out around pubs in high streets in there hundreds singing all on top of each other with no masks on. Some just don't care and nothing we can do about any of it. Just look out for yourself that is all you can do.
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Thick thighs. The one's that are working know by law there not supposed to and know the risks and know the virus is getting worse and hospitals getting crowded.
They do it for different reasons
1. Because they are struggling and have no money to survive on and no access to grants.
2. Because they have limited savings and don't want to get in a worse position and still have work flats to pay for etc and other debts.
3. Just greedy, they earn a lot, have plenty of savings but just money mad.
4. Ones that just don't care about the virus.
On the first lockdown i knew 1 lady that worked all the way through it and caught it and ended up in hospital in a bad way she thought she was going to die. She recovered but now has quit the industry and hated herself for not taking it serious. I think unless you catch it and are very ill or know people that have died you might have a different out look.
It is what it is just like all the ones that we're hanging out around pubs in high streets in there hundreds singing all on top of each other with no masks on. Some just don't care and nothing we can do about any of it. Just look out for yourself that is all you can do.
Yes I get all that and appreciate that we all have different circumstances etc, but Escortx comment saying she is still working but not mixing so won’t spread the virus is very naive as clearly she is mixing
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I agree all bookings with clients is still very much mixing.
When I say I vet clients in terms of their occupation of course I am aware they may be lying. However i do not advertise on my profile that I check this or it will give them time to make up jobs and lie so I am just hoping they aren't lying....
I can only work if schools are open and at this rate they may close very soon.
I would rather not work at all right now as the new variant gives me the heebie jeebies but needs must owing to dwindling savings.
Surely we all have our reasons for working and circumstances in terms of risk assessment and so on.
Presumably the person above meant they don't mix outside of the job as they don't want to exacerbate their own risk taking.
Just hope that vaccine rollout is nice and swift and tiers are soon a thing of the past for all our sakes!
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So many carriers are asymptomatic anyway, so no matter how well you might check clients and take precautions, you just don't know who has the virus and who does not.
Whilst I realise everyone has a choice in this and some are forced to work due to dwindling resources, the spread of the virus is only going to be curtailed if people stop mixing with others. And be aware that even with the vaccine, the virus can still spread - while the person who is vaccinated can not become ill should they be exposed to the virus, they can still be a carrier and spread the virus. We're going to be living with the coronavirus for quite some time yet.
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Yes TT I'm aware of how the virus spreads but it's not predictable at all and that's why we keep going into lockdowns and tiers. I did a strict lockdown for the first round and didn't have anyone enter my home, Did not work, Only mixed with my household and they wouldn't leave the house for fear of catching covid, I didn't see friends And wore a mask. I only went out to get food and I tested positive for covid while doing everything to stay safe. My symptoms started one evening with hot and cold sweats and a night of feeling unwell but not severe. Next day I felt a bit weak and lost my sense of smell 2 weeks and taste 4 weeks. I was very cautious but how did I get it, No idea but everything we buy has been handled before. If anything the mental side of all this has been the most testing for me and for so many. Hopefully by Autumn things will be better if the vaccines get out to most that need it and the vulnerable. All My older clients and those with elderly parents have not seen me but kept in touch. I only work 10 days a month now. But everyone feels different about the morals of working and that's fine as we all have a choice to not work if we felt scared or need to shield loved ones or don't want to break the law. If we get tighter lockdowns then I will not work due to the mental stress of it all.
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Yes I get all that and appreciate that we all have different circumstances etc, but Escortx comment saying she is still working but not mixing so won’t spread the virus is very naive as clearly she is mixing
I know and i get you. It's hard for some to realise this or hope they will not spread things to other's if they try to be careful outside of sex work.
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Back in lockdown and thank goodness I've saved money so can take some time off. I just feel I have to now. Be interesting to see if the phones go quiet now or maybe punters aren't as afraid this time.
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Back in lockdown and thank goodness I've saved money so can take some time off. I just feel I have to now. Be interesting to see if the phones go quiet now or maybe punters aren't as afraid this time.
Was thinking the same Amy. My business pattern has always been January busy (less than December) and February dead, then march picks up. I'm expecting a slower than usual January and dead February, a combo of business naturally slowing down and Covid lockdown, so I might get some time off too. I really need a break to recharge batteries., and this is the perfect time. I have a couple of friends working in hospitals who've told me uci's are overwhelmed always at this time of the year with normal flu and respiratory diseases, add to that the covid patients and they are reaching a bit breaking point as a lot of personal are on leave due to having feel ill with covid. I'm hopeful that we're in the last stages of the pandemic but the clogging of our health system is proving to be a nightmare (hence the reason for lockdown) but it's only going to get better after February will the vaccines etc...
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Let's hope the vaccine roll out is accelerated with use of the military etc. Cus at the rate they are going some of our clients will die naturally of old age nevermind the virus.
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Oh well schools shut now so can't even meet a regular! and the plan was always tour from March once my son was old enough. Can't do that yet either!
Let's hope this is the final lockdown and hotels/apartments back in the groove come latest May.
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Like you lush I can't see my regulars from home with family now home but I already booked a place to work this week for a few days. I have a feeling that the new announcement that police will stop people to see if they are out and about for the reasons the government allow will put off loads of clients, I expect my usual clients over 50 will not venture out and chance a punt. I have no idea what to expect when I go available this week. I think come May we will still have tiers and for most of this year. Now police and enter homes with force so I would be very cautious working from home.
Be great to hear if anyone is ticking along ok with New lockdown.
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Jeez. Around 1 in 50 people in UK have Covid. That is scary to me I must say.
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I've not been working since the last lockdown announced in Wales but obviously post Xmas I'm really feeling the pinch. I've got a regular who wants a 3 hr booking next week and I'm so tempted but can't decide what to do for the best. That money would cover my household food for weeks but I feel I shouldn't be working. Aaargh!
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Is it worth working city centre with the virus? Nowhere is open, parking isn’t great and the men won’t have an excuse for being around. Thinking it’s better to work not city centre atm?
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Supergirl, I'd probably do him if that was me personally.
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Is it worth working city centre with the virus? Nowhere is open, parking isn’t great and the men won’t have an excuse for being around. Thinking it’s better to work not city centre atm?
Difficult to say but the police are getting very serious now giving out fines to people for walking few miles from home and saying because they had takeaway coffee in the 2 women's hands that is classed as a picnic. Worst death record today.
I had a 2hr outcall booked for early next week with someone i seen before that he booked over 2 weeks ago he is a hermit and lives alone but i have cancelled it as too risky being 20 miles away from home and it is not like i could say popping to supermarket or going for a drive to walk.
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And again, since no attempt at all is being made to even tenuously link to sex work. I'd really rather not lock it, but all that means is a lot of premods instead.
If you want to have a general discussion about pandemics, restrictions, policing and so on, please do so on a general discussion forum.
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Back on topic I've had an OK week plus a couple of regulars booked for next week, but I have my rent money for next month now and I'm going to sack it after that and edit my ads accordingly. The twatcalls/emails are vastly outweighing the sensible ones now and I can't be arsed with it, although regulars know they can text and if I'm about they can come over. No travel problems for anyone bar the usual engineering works, but I think the cold weather will put a fair few off too.
I had a 2hr outcall booked for early next week with someone i seen before that he booked over 2 weeks ago he is a hermit and lives alone but i have cancelled it as too risky being 20 miles away from home and it is not like i could say popping to supermarket or going for a drive to walk.
You're allowed to travel to work, although you'd probably have to throw in a therapeutic massage or something. I can't imagine you'd likely be asked anyway, but then I've never lived anywhere with enough police to come out if you're burgled, let alone question random people going about their business.
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Well i did thoroughly look into the travelling for work and close contact jobs etc and Osteopath/Chiropractor not that i am one of them but just an example they cannot visit clients at there home unless evidence produced why the client cannot go to there office from a doctor etc.
It would be my luck being pulled over by police and the booking was for 7.30pm so i would be travelling home late with no excuse. I have seen a few police on foot not too far from where i live just walking so they are about but i think it depends where people live. If i could do day time and he lived a bit nearer i might have done it plus he is a very easy client and someone i don't mind spending time with. Oh well nevermind.
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I had four bookings prebooked for this week, 3 of them regs. All of the regs cancelled soon after the annoucement of lockdown. Did the fourth one and now I'm not bothering until next month at the earliest, because like others, the amount of twats I'm getting contact me is unreal and making me want to bang my head against the wall. :FF
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I was going to tour for 3 days next week. But I decided to cancel. The flat is 2h from my city and it will be too stressful to travel...
I hope numbers of cases will drop till the end of March so I can come back to work. I'll tour every week to keep up with my targets.
If I would work from own flat I would probably see regulars like you guys...
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I was going to tour for 3 days next week. But I decided to cancel. The flat is 2h from my city and it will be too stressful to travel...
I hope numbers of cases will drop till the end of March so I can come back to work. I'll tour every week to keep up with my targets.
If I would work from own flat I would probably see regulars like you guys...
Even then though there may be the issue of neighbours. It looks like restrictions are going to get tighter if anything, and there are plenty of people who will be straight on the phone to the police if they see someone having a lot of visitors (or even one).
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Kay I think because we only hear about the people getting caught and not the people getting away with things, the reporting thing is skewered.
I'm glad I've saved so I can take time off for now and I do think people are concerned enough to stay home that the numbers should come down, but as soon as that's reported, the worry is people will slack up on staying at home, myself included because I don't want to spend my savings. I'm playing it by ear at the moment.
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Kay I think because we only hear about the people getting caught and not the people getting away with things, the reporting thing is skewered.
Exactly - I suspect it depends where you are and what your incall is like in a similar (but amplified) way to how it normally does. If you're trying to work surrounded by nosy saddos with no life then something like this would be the perfect opportunity for them, but then again, the police will likely be sick of hearing from them every time the lady from over the road says hello to somebody passing by as she's putting the bin out. In my experience they know who these people are.
Thankfully a big advantage to Central London is that people have better things to think about, plus (in my building at least) the various delivery drivers are in and out so often it's impossible to tell who's doing what and even harder to care :).
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I'm finding it all too stressful and I've gone from enjoying the freedoms escorting allowed me to know feeling it's a huge effort and the legalities of lockdown rules means if i work in another town i am breaking the law travelling. For the days I planned to work most cancelled on the day. For my own sanity and health I'm going to take time off until March and concentrate on my health and mental wellbeing ready for when I can work again. Times are tough for all of us and I don't like how the police are more present on the streets and the nosey neighbours that might report visitors. Felt really positive after the first lockdown and seemed like things could get back to like before first lockdown but now I think we are in for hard times until Autumn. Will be using savings again and will focus on getting back to work March unless things somehow take a turn for the better.
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I was going to tour for 3 days next week. But I decided to cancel. The flat is 2h from my city and it will be too stressful to travel...
I hope numbers of cases will drop till the end of March so I can come back to work. I'll tour every week to keep up with my targets.
If I would work from own flat I would probably see regulars like you guys...
I just toured 2 hours away from home got the train with no problems carriage was pretty much empty there and back business on the tour was decent to not much competition at all in certain areas hotels are closed so a lot less ladies are working. I find it quite stress free traveling at the moment in normal circumstances when the stations and trains where packed that was stressful. Anyone travelling by train reccomend you do your self a packed lunch cause places to buy food from inside/near some stations are limited with everything been closed an trains only selling basic refreshments or none at all.
I can’t comment on driving long distance not sure if anyone be getting a pic of thier Reg took if you are far away from home. But I have found train travel just fine.
If you are working in flat or apartments (I think working from a house not a good idea at the moment) just be mindful that people are all at home so turn buzzer volume down or off if possible in flat I was in I just kept them on the phone and was able to press the button on the buzzer and release the door lock with out them actually having to press the buzzer, put your phone on vibrate last thing you want is it ringing into the corridor if you have it in your hand when you let client in an close the door gently and keep voices down at the door just basically apply the same discretion you do working from a hotel room.
I stopped working last March and didn’t come back to work until June not a chance am I stopping again unless I get rona my self.
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Evening all.
Once we finally start getting through the list or those in an area where you are required to would you state it?
Do you think it would make a difference or would you get more annoying calls.
*cheers moderators wasn’t sure if it was new or a merge.
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Merged wirh exising thread - lets keep it contained :)
I'm maybe missing something massively obvious here, but why would I put sensitive personal/medical information about myself on my ads?
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I wonder if it’s going to become a case of those saying they have had it and punters wanting it. Though from what I can read into it you can still carry the virus just not be heavily affected.
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I wonder if it’s going to become a case of those saying they have had it and punters wanting it. Though from what I can read into it you can still carry the virus just not be heavily affected.
And if a punter told you he'd had a vaccine, would you believe him?
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To be honest I wouldn’t trust them but we know they don’t think the way we do!
Until I get mine I wouldn’t feel safe.
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And if a punter told you he'd had a vaccine, would you believe him?
No never, i would want proof too many lie to get what they want but it's a nice surprise when some are honest and do tell the truth.
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No, I wouldn't trust him, and besides, the vaccine only reduces his risk of becoming seriously ill, and does not hinder his ability to catch the virus and pass it on to others.
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Hi girls hope you are all fine. I wanted to ask how you girls are working during the pandemic as I want to start working soon but I don't know how to start as I am scared to get the virus.
Any suggestions is welcome
Love xx
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Hi girls hope you are all fine. I wanted to ask how you girls are working during the pandemic as I want to start working soon but I don't know how to start as I am scared to get the virus.
Any suggestions is welcome
Love xx
My advice would be to wait until the summer, at least.
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Hi girls hope you are all fine. I wanted to ask how you girls are working during the pandemic as I want to start working soon but I don't know how to start as I am scared to get the virus.
Any suggestions is welcome
Love xx
It's not rocket science. If you don't want to catch the virus, follow the guidelines and don't mix with anyone outside of your household. If you decide to ignore government guidelines and see clients, then you must accept that you are at a much greater risk of catching the virus.
Only you can decide what is best for you.
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Hi Ryas. I'm playing it by ear. There's roughly 900 Covid cases per 100,000 in my area. I cannot continue to not work until the summer so I'm hoping that r figure will soon come down soon. I hope to go back by end of next month, maybe sooner. I might even go back in a couple of weeks' time.
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Im ticking along fine, i only offer erotic massage though. Ill keep working as discreetly as i can. Ive stuck a piece of towel over my intercom speaker, tell them not to knock or speak whilst in the hall way or bathroom. Im lucky as im really only seeing regulars so i know theyre not fog horns with no sense of awareness.
I refuse to end up dependent on the goverment for handouts or end up in debt. Id never work if i had symptoms or was sick (from any illness)but im not ill so im not gonna act like i am and end up financially ruined and homeless. This police state we are unfortunately living in isnt going away because theres a vaccine. Look out for yourself and use common sense when working.
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Im ticking along fine, i only offer erotic massage though. Ill keep working as discreetly as i can. Ive stuck a piece of towel over my intercom speaker, tell them not to knock or speak whilst in the hall way or bathroom. Im lucky as im really only seeing regulars so i know theyre not fog horns with no sense of awareness.
I refuse to end up dependent on the goverment for handouts or end up in debt. Id never work if i had symptoms or was sick (from any illness)but im not ill so im not gonna act like i am and end up financially ruined and homeless. This police state we are unfortunately living in isnt going away because theres a vaccine. Look out for yourself and use common sense when working.
Abso - fuckin - lutely! I couldn’t agree more with this.
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Hi girls hope you are all fine. I wanted to ask how you girls are working during the pandemic as I want to start working soon but I don't know how to start as I am scared to get the virus.
Any suggestions is welcome
Love xx
Have you done sex work before, Ryas?
There are a lot of people entering the industry at the moment which is driven by job losses (I assume) but they are joining at a historically dangerous time.
As others have said, only you can make a decision based on your comfort level with the risks. You can decide not to offer kissing, you can try to only fuck in cowgirl and doggy, but realistically if you're breathing the same air in the same room as a client, you're very likely to catch anything they've got, from Covid to the common cold.
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I refuse to end up dependent on the goverment for handouts
Well that's lovely, but without the SEISS grants I would likely have had to give up my work flat, especially since I'm not eligible for anything else. Everybody's financial situation is different and I'm sure those who have had to rely on universal credits and so on feel shit enough about it without having to read superior comments about 'handouts'.
I can't remember if I've posted about this previously, but if anybody wants to know whether they've had the virus (and Riyas, if you've been in central London for the last year or so there's a very good chance you have unless you've been shut away most of the time) the Superdrug antibody tests are back in stock now. Given that a big chunk of people have no symptoms, they're handy if you're not sure :).
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I refuse to end up dependent on the goverment for handouts or end up in debt. Id never work if i had symptoms or was sick (from any illness)but im not ill so im not gonna act like i am and end up financially ruined and homeless. This police state we are unfortunately living in isnt going away because theres a vaccine. Look out for yourself and use common sense when working.
The covid help literally saved me and I'm very grateful to the British government for helping me out. I'm not ashamed one bit by it. This was a pandemic, a natural catastrophe that hit us and we had absolutely no power over it. It's not like you were partying for six months and one day got evicted. Everyone has gotten help, from pubs to airlines. Nothing to be ashamed by receving financial help.
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I don't think Lilith meant it to read negatively on other people claiming financial support.
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I don't think Lilith meant it to read negatively on other people claiming financial support.
I didn’t mean it negatively either by agreeing with Lilith, I just meant if anyone wants to work at the moment but was worried about being able to do so without hassle, it can be done discreetly because I have been doing it.
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I can't remember if I've posted about this previously, but if anybody wants to know whether they've had the virus (and Riyas, if you've been in central London for the last year or so there's a very good chance you have unless you've been shut away most of the time) the Superdrug antibody tests are back in stock now. Given that a big chunk of people have no symptoms, they're handy if you're not sure :).
Thanks for that Amy, I didn't know they were doing them. I had a test a few months ago via Bupa but I'm sure Superdrug are a lot cheaper!
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Does anyone know anyone that has been fined due to still working?
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I didnt mean it negatively at all, i apologise if it came across that way i know times are fucking hard right now for people.
I dont know anyone whos been fined for working but if youknow of a sex worker outreach programme in your area it might be worth reaching out to them and they might know if the police are cracking down on sex workers who are still working.
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Does anyone know anyone that has been fined due to still working?
Yes. I think it depends on where in the country you are. In London I think you will be ok.
Someone I use to do 3 somes with was fined £200 for an outcall at a regulars house. He was fined too. A neighbour snitched and called the Police.
This was greater Manchester 5 days ago.
The Police take your details and if you are caught again the fine is bigger. Not sure how much but I think I read it was somewhere near £600.
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Some people have got a lot of time in their hands or are just spiteful human beings. Calling the police even on their neighbours that's abit OTT.
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Yes. I think it depends on where in the country you are. In London I think you will be ok.
Someone I use to do 3 somes with was fined £200 for an outcall at a regulars house. He was fined too. A neighbour snitched and called the Police.
This was greater Manchester 5 days ago.
The Police take your details and if you are caught again the fine is bigger. Not sure how much but I think I read it was somewhere near £600.
This is alarming.
Who was fined, the Escort?
How did they discover who she was, did they arrive at the door there and then?-within minutes of the Neighbour snitching? 🤔
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Who was fined, the Escort?
Someone I use to do 3 somes with was fined £200 for an outcall at a regulars house. He was fined too.
Ahem.
How did they discover who she was
They probably didn't - it doesn't matter who she was, after all. It only matters that she doesn't live in that house, and was obviously caught out too quickly to come up with a plausible story.
Also bear in mind we don't know how many other people this bloke has had round. She could have just been the last straw for the saddo over the road with nothing better to do.
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Some people have got a lot of time in their hands or are just spiteful human beings. Calling the police even on their neighbours that's abit OTT.
I'd say it depends on what the neighbours done. I wouldn't report a solo visitor but I'm so pissed off with lockdown right now that I would probably report a house party or similar. As Amy said, it could have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
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It was Cheadle last Friday night. They were both fined. It was some old nasty women who lived next door to the guy that called the police. To be honest I wouldn't worry as the Police are only looking out for large house parties. I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else.
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Does anyone know anyone that has been fined due to still working?
I reported a incident with a client to the police they tried
To fine me. I explained I had to pay my rent and was struggling.
I think he felt sorry for me and let me off
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I reported a incident with a client to the police they tried
To fine me. I explained I had to pay my rent and was struggling.
I think he felt sorry for me and let me off
I'm glad they let you off! This is what worries me at the moment, so many dodgy creeps coming out the woodwork because they believe we don't have the ability to go to the police because of fines etc. It would be a very worrying precedent if forces were fining women for reporting crimes committed against them. Most of the country is still working during this lockdown, so sex workers need to be as well.
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I'm glad they let you off! This is what worries me at the moment, so many dodgy creeps coming out the woodwork because they believe we don't have the ability to go to the police because of fines etc. It would be a very worrying precedent if forces were fining women for reporting crimes committed against them. Most of the country is still working during this lockdown, so sex workers need to be as well.
Not quite sure about the logic of using the word 'need' there.
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But most of the country or lets say some there is safety put in place at work with screens and social distancing being enforced. Sex work there is none of that put in place. So cannot really compare the 2 situations. Even dentists will be close but have all PPE on to protect. Sex workers have none of this.
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No but they do have rent and bills to pay just like other workers. That's a need for most! Not sure what's illogical about that!
You'll be surprised how many people are still going to work in non key worker jobs with bugger all protection. I'd feel more exposed working in the Range or somewhere with just a mask for protection exposed to hundreds of customers a day than seeing a few people a week as a sex worker.
I'm fortunate enough to not have to work right now but there should be zero judgement on those who have to.
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Not quite sure about the logic of using the word 'need' there.
You're not sure why sex workers might need to work to pay their rent and bills and feed themselves and their families if they can't access any (or only very limited) financial support? I'm surprised by that - it's pretty basic stuff and really not that difficult for most people to grasp.
Or is this the time honoured method of expressing disapproval of something by pretending not to understand it; (my mother is the queen of this passive aggressive crap)? If so, give it a rest.
EDIT: cross posted with SW, and be assured that any judgemental posts will be (and have been) removed :)
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I reported a incident with a client to the police they tried
To fine me. I explained I had to pay my rent and was struggling.
I think he felt sorry for me and let me off
That’s disgusting Chanell, sorry you had that experience. I’ve had to report some incidents in the past year and they didn’t ask me anything about lockdown or why I am working, would have thought they’d rather not make us even more reluctant to report incidents due to fear of being fined!
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You're not sure why sex workers might need to work to pay their rent and bills and feed themselves and their families if they can't access any (or only very limited) financial support? I'm surprised by that - it's pretty basic stuff and really not that difficult for most people to grasp.
Or is this the time honoured method of expressing disapproval of something by pretending not to understand it; (my mother is the queen of this passive aggressive crap)? If so, give it a rest.
EDIT: cross posted with SW, and be assured that any judgemental posts will be (and have been) removed :)
No, it was the phraseology, "Most of the country is still working during this lockdown, so sex workers need to be as well", i.e. that because other people are working SWs need to as well. Not about SWs working during lockdown per se.
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Seems weirdly quiet right now when I would have thought guys would be feeling a bit more confident given the reported fall in the R rate and the great roll out of the vaccine programme.
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Seems weirdly quiet right now when I would have thought guys would be feeling a bit more confident given the reported fall in the R rate and the great roll out of the vaccine programme.
If it makes you feel better I'm in London and so far this february is being the worst month since last march when lockdown started. Business is absolutely null. Zero. Nilch. Nada. Can't wait for the covid grant next month.
On the other hand february is always my worst month of the year, add a lockdown and :FF
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Seems weirdly quiet right now when I would have thought guys would be feeling a bit more confident given the reported fall in the R rate and the great roll out of the vaccine programme.
But not even everyone over 60 has been vaccinated yet, or all those who are vulnerable, and most have only had their first shot. If you've isolated for a year, it would be a bit daft to risk it all now when the end is (hopefully) nigh. There's also the concerns over the new strains, against which the vaccines may be less effective. Also February is a bad month for bills after Christmas.
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If it makes you feel better I'm in London and so far this february is being the worst month since last march when lockdown started. Business is absolutely null. Zero. Nilch. Nada. Can't wait for the covid grant next month.
On the other hand february is always my worst month of the year, add a lockdown and :FF
Sorry to hear things aren't great for you either.
Oddly Feb has always been a really good month for me, even last year.
Clients I've spoken with seemed more concerned for their parents so I thought the vaccine roll out may have helped that situation.
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That’s disgusting Chanell, sorry you had that experience. I’ve had to report some incidents in the past year and they didn’t ask me anything about lockdown or why I am working, would have thought they’d rather not make us even more reluctant to report incidents due to fear of being fined!
To be fair to the police i want sex workers to be treated the same as any other non sex work business so if they fine us as we are not allowed to work in lockdown but are doing it to other self employed people who are also not allowed to work in lockdown then it's a fair system if we are treated no different.
I would imagine if a client seriously assaulted or robbed a sex worker and reported the man while working in covid lockdowns most probably would not make it a issue and just prefer to go after the client as he is the real criminal but if you did have to pay the £200 fine but there taking the abuse or robbery serious and looking for him then that is the main thing we should focus on. We cannot pick and choose when we want the police to turn a blind eye.
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Am i right in seeing on the news that hotels cannot open before May 17th but so many other businesses are allowed to on the roadmap? How many sex workers can hold off this long to go back to work?
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Am i right in seeing on the news that hotels cannot open before May 17th but so many other businesses are allowed to on the roadmap? How many sex workers can hold off this long to go back to work?
Boris really doesn't care about us, we're the hidden/overlooked, even though many of us pay taxes we are not seen as a legitimate business.
Bloody annoying but at least from 29th March we can be "accepting visitors in our gardens"
Not much help if you have to work from hotels but useful to ladies working from home.
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I mean yeah obviously he do not care about sex workers but he does not care about the hospitality industry going bust. All his concerns are getting students and kids back to school it's not like a lot of them have bills and homes to keep.
I cannot see the sex industry getting back to any kind of normal for quite a while. Every lockdown has had different rules it's a scramble of mess you need a memory of a genius to keep up with all the changes.
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Hello everyone, hope you are keeping well and safe.
I wanted to know your thoughts. For those of you who have not been working during lockdown (like me) do you think the return to work date would be the 12th April (when non essential retail opens along with personal care) or May 17th (when indoor hospitality reopens)?
I think sex work comes under the first category - personal care - it's a service similar to counselling, waxing, cosmetic beauty treatments - so in that case I might start work again from 12th April.
What are your thoughts on the dates?
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For me it's May 17. I don't shag my hairdresser! Also, May 17 is when two households can meet indoors, and a lot more people will have had at least one dose of vaccine by then.
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Kay I think sparkly meant we may be in the same category as personal care because it's a close contact thing also, but I think it will probably be May 17th ???.
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Truth being we don't come in any category but we would probably more legally put it at May 17th i would say.
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I'm returning April 12th. I've been vaccinated and I've done my bit not working. I'm not able to wait any longer, mentally or financially so that's that. Will probably start up outcalls before then if possible.
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Kay I think sparkly meant we may be in the same category as personal care because it's a close contact thing also, but I think it will probably be May 17th ???.
Yes this is what I mean, I think that physiotherapists, masseuses etc will be working, which are close contact as well.
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As soon as the schools are back im back. The only problem with this is they only go back for 3 wks then it’s Easter holidays so not much time to make any money.
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seems like nothing is going to change until at least 15th of April.
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Don't think I'm allowed to post a website link but I get all my corona news - well, the current state of restrictions/finance/allows, from gov.uk. I'm not interested in speculation, hype and hypotheticals spouted by the news to make news.
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As soon as the schools are back im back. The only problem with this is they only go back for 3 wks then it’s Easter holidays so not much time to make any money.
THIS.
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seems like nothing is going to change until at least 15th of April.
What's happening in April? I thought it was the 17 May when households are allowed to mix.
I think it will be May at least before things get remotely back to normal.
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What's happening in April? I thought it was the 17 May when households are allowed to mix.
I think it will be May at least before things get remotely back to normal.
12th April non essential/ close contact personal care can reopen
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Enquiries and potential bookings have started coming in. Am feeling most encouraged by this. I just hope we stay on plan for the lockdown roadmap and the dates don't change.
Just need to lose a few lockdown lbs!
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Yes I have gained at least 3 more pounds than usual this winter. As a rule it is 6 pound gain then spring I lose again but this year it is 9 flipping pounds weight gain. Yeugh. Teenager demands haven't helped matters this time but the end is in sight somewhat ......
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I have gone up TWO dress sizes >:(.
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I've porked out a bit too, despite not snacking :(
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I am thinking it's the lack lot's of sex everyday ;D.
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Mind you, and please don't laugh at this, my knees and jaw are enjoying the rest ;D
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Are you asking for a covid test result from clients (if you’re working currently)
Maybe this is too intrusive to ask of you all, if so sorry! I’m just curious as it’s only just dawned on me that maybe that would’ve been wise. And I have some work lined up for the coming days :/
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And put with the rest :)
Are you asking for a covid test result from clients (if you’re working currently)
It wouldn't even cross my mind any more than I would expect them to ask me, or believe my answer to be of any use if they did unless I'd been shut in a box for the ensuing ten days after I took it. I don't ask for STI test results either :)
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Well I have been a mess, been off for myriad physical problems and so the relative lack of booking enquires has been a blessing really. I'm bored senseless and want to get back to making money soon.
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The being stuck in with the same few people has done my head in too x
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And put with the rest :)
It wouldn't even cross my mind any more than I would expect them to ask me, or believe my answer to be of any use if they did unless I'd been shut in a box for the ensuing ten days after I took it. I don't ask for STI test results either :)
No that’s true actually. The same as asking for std tests. And I did think well they can probably be faked as easily as anything
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The being stuck in with the same few people has done my head in too x
Do you know how sick I am of these bloody phone games I have to hear all bloody day? :FF
I just requested some ice cream (yeah I am fat, I don't care today).
*cries* arrrgh.....I am so fed up of this. ::)
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No that’s true actually. The same as asking for std tests. And I did think well they can probably be faked as easily as anything
And the arguments, also you/I could have Covid-19 or an STI.
Some hadn't thought of that.
One guy last year proudly told me has was probably the safest punter, because he'd had a negative Covid-19 test ahead of a day in hospital. He wanted me to break my imposed limit / gap between clients, bring his booking forward. I pointed out I could be positive for all he knows.
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When will it be completely safe to work again?
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When will it be completely safe to work again?
Probably when everyone who's going to have them, which is hopefully at least 80% of the population or there won't be effective herd immunity, has had their two vaccinations; we may all need to have them annually going forward. So September/October probably.
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No, no. I agree with these guidelines, but people are saying that government wants to vaccinate every adult by end of June. So I think from mid July work should be normal, except if your majority of clients are foreigners, then I don't think they will star appearing in uk so much yet.
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No, no. I agree with these guidelines, but people are saying that government wants to vaccinate every adult by end of June. So I think from mid July work should be normal, except if your majority of clients are foreigners, then I don't think they will star appearing in uk so much yet.
First or second injection by end of June?
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First or second injection by end of June?
I think its end of July and second vacc?
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Interest in bookings is gaining momentum. Unfortunately it's coming from guys who think that the lockdown ends this month and thus want a booking also this month.
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Interest in bookings is gaining momentum. Unfortunately it's coming from guys who think that the lockdown ends this month and thus want a booking also this month.
Yes I have heard from quite a few guys in the last cple of weeks who I haven't seen since before the first lockdown last year.
I think many have now had their first jab either by age or work related and are now feeling safe to get back to a bit of normality.
Hopefully its a sign that we can look forward to getting busier in the next few weeks if we are wishing or able to work.
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I've not long started seeing regular clients again and only do one a week if that as I'm being cautious. So why is always always my least favourites that want a long booking. I've just been asked to do an overnight with a chap I've been seeing a few years - in normal times we do 1 hr maybe 2. I did 5 hours with him end of last lockdown and it was such a strain! I was watching the clock every five minutes!
I don't think I can possibly get through an overnight but I really really really need the money,!!
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I'm getting many calls with a "Hello Ana I just got the vaccine! give me an appointment asap!"
LMAO. Loving the vaccine :D
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I had a small run of new clients who were really good. Older clients tend to be a lower risk category and they isolated well and spaced apart so I was happy to see them. Since the government began boasting about things easing I've seen a pick up of new client enquiries but I am less enamered with them so not making an effort to encourage them. Most of the recent burst of enquiries seem like the wrong sort of client or timewasters. I have one regular who wants to see me this week otherwise nothing. I'm fine with this. Better safe than sorry.
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Work has definitely picked up again as many - at least more inquiries than before. Also the 3 clients I met told me they either have had the first jab already or had the Virus. I guess the more people vaccinated, the more they will feel safer again to see us.
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I’ve been working in Newton Abbot and Plymouth and phones gone mad. I feel like the tide is turning and people are so fed up they are coming out to play. I’ve seen a distinct upturn in business since the schools went back.
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Yes I too have had a good week this week, well as compared to the last few weeks, bookings every day and even had to turn a few down. Certainly not as busy as pre pandemic but a good upturn.
Fingers crossed we may be turning a corner.
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I've not long started seeing regular clients again and only do one a week if that as I'm being cautious. So why is always always my least favourites that want a long booking. I've just been asked to do an overnight with a chap I've been seeing a few years - in normal times we do 1 hr maybe 2. I did 5 hours with him end of last lockdown and it was such a strain! I was watching the clock every five minutes!
I don't think I can possibly get through an overnight but I really really really need the money,!!
The overnight might be easier, if, it involves a lot of sleeping :)
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The overnight might be easier, if, it involves a lot of sleeping :)
And not watching the clock, the time will pass.
If daunted it will seem like a long time.
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When is it actually legal to work with covid restrictions? I had a look and the beauty people are able to in a few weeks. Can we legally then?
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When is it actually legal to work with covid restrictions? I had a look and the beauty people are able to in a few weeks. Can we legally then?
I was wondering this, and I thought maybe when personal care such as masseuses are allowed to practice on the 12th of April maybe? It would be nice to know when exactly though.
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When is it actually legal to work with covid restrictions? I had a look and the beauty people are able to in a few weeks. Can we legally then?
People from two different households are not allowed to legally meet indoors until May 17th.
The beauty business is a little different to our line of work as they should have the protective screens up and wear the appropriate masks/visors and keep to as much social distancing as is possible in the situation so not close contact as such like we are.
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People from two different households are not allowed to legally meet indoors until May 17th.
Unless it's for work reasons. You're meeting someone in your office/workspace for work, not to have a cup of tea and chat about the weather or how auntie Gertrude is doing.
Gray area I say.
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I was thinking more massage therapist as they are close contact than something like nails. I suppose you can't wear a mask.dking oral but I've booked in my Botox on lips and you can't wear one for that etc.
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IMO physical bookings will be legal again from May 17th, when two households can mix indoors. Masseurs, hairdressers, nail technicians can all mask up and we're not shagging/kissing them...
Re. vaccines, I don't really see it as a marketing point, nor would I believe punters who used their vaccination status as a bargaining chip to obtain a booking. Moreover, by the autumn it will hopefully make little difference as enough people will have been immunised for the country as a whole to achieve at least some level of herd immunity, so the odd individual who hasn't been vaccinated shouldn't be a, or at, risk.
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Off topic posts moved from the vaccine thread - if we have to have two, please keep the general stuff in this one :)
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Unless it's for work reasons. You're meeting someone in your office/workspace for work, not to have a cup of tea and chat about the weather or how auntie Gertrude is doing.
Gray area I say.
I'm not sure that the authorities, should they come knocking at your door mid service, would regard inviting a random guy into your home/apartment or whatever to offer paid sex services as legitimate work.
They would see two persons from different households mixing indoors, which until the 17th May is illegal.
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I've been very inactive tbh. i know a few people who suffered from Covid and thought it best to sit it out.
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Cleaners can go into houses. I know it's different but sex work is work
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I've been very inactive tbh. i know a few people who suffered from Covid and thought it best to sit it out.
Same for me, not worked since 20 th March 2020.
My boss hasn't called me in the the massage parlour since then.
I mainly do outcalls to hotels, think after 17th May you can visit hotels but not sure.
21st June all restrictions might be lifted and all back to normal, we hope.
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I’ve been working in Newton Abbot and Plymouth and phones gone mad. I feel like the tide is turning and people are so fed up they are coming out to play. I’ve seen a distinct upturn in business since the schools went back.
OMG! I'm in Plymouth and I've been absolutely dead for the last 4 weeks or so :( really hope it picks up again soon, it's so disheartening!
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Sorry if this has come up before. I've been very wary of working - my civvy job involves contact with vulnerable people. I've been "double jabbed" now - second jab floored me. I'm also tested at least twice a week. Anyway can I ask - is anyone thinking of asking clients for proof of vaccination or a recent negative covid test?
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Pussy willow i am not thinking of asking any client if they been vaccinated. I don't see how them having the jab really impacts on us working as people can as we still catch covid with the jab but you should be protected from getting very ill or dying. I have had the first jab myself which is supposed to protect a good percentage after 3 weeks anyway for me if i caught it.
Do you mean more from a moral point of view asking if a client has been vaccinated?
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Sorry if this has come up before. I've been very wary of working - my civvy job involves contact with vulnerable people. I've been "double jabbed" now - second jab floored me. I'm also tested at least twice a week. Anyway can I ask - is anyone thinking of asking clients for proof of vaccination or a recent negative covid test?
It's up to you but personally I wouldn't ask for it. You've had both of yours so that gives you as much protection as you can get.
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Sorry if this has come up before. I've been very wary of working - my civvy job involves contact with vulnerable people. I've been "double jabbed" now - second jab floored me. I'm also tested at least twice a week. Anyway can I ask - is anyone thinking of asking clients for proof of vaccination or a recent negative covid test?
I won't. It's a bit like STIs to me - the main thing is to protect yourself. I'm sure some would lie anyway, and a recent negative test wouldn't mean much as they could be infected in between then and your booking. Luckily I had my second jab last week, so my immunity will roughly coincide with the next phase of lockdown lifting on May 17th, and I wouldn't work before then anyway.
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I guess I'm just a bit concerned that I could still pick the virus up and pass it on. But I suppose you could go on forever thinking like that. I have to get back to work properly soon.
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I guess I'm just a bit concerned that I could still pick the virus up and pass it on. But I suppose you could go on forever thinking like that. I have to get back to work properly soon.
Yes you can over think things. We have to look after ourselves not worry about other's who don't. You are in a good position you have had 2 doses so protected the most you can be.
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A dramatic increase in traffic to my website over the past few days, all from overseas, most notably the US (which used to be my biggest market). It will be interesting to see if it translates into bookings. I hope it does as I've had one cancellation and another postpone, so now have a few open slots.
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A dramatic increase in traffic to my website over the past few days, all from overseas, most notably the US (which used to be my biggest market). It will be interesting to see if it translates into bookings. I hope it does as I've had one cancellation and another postpone, so now have a few open slots.
The good news is that the US is being very fast with it's vaccination program and most are getting the johnson vaccine which is one shot only, so unlike here were he had to get two shots and wait two months in between jabs they are going incredibly fast. This is good news as it will speed international travel. I believe mid summer we will start seeing an influx of tourism and international travel. (crosses fingers). Things will speed up even faster once PCR's are not needed to fly into the UK as having to spend and extra 500 pounds per person in PCR's to fly back and fourth is stopping travellers.
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The good news is that the US is being very fast with it's vaccination program and most are getting the johnson vaccine which is one shot only, so unlike here were he had to get two shots and wait two months in between jabs they are going incredibly fast. This is good news as it will speed international travel. I believe mid summer we will start seeing an influx of tourism and international travel. (crosses fingers). Things will speed up even faster once PCR's are not needed to fly into the UK as having to spend and extra 500 pounds per person in PCR's to fly back and fourth is stopping travellers.
Yes! A good friend lives in the US and she had Pfizer - there's only a matter of weeks between vaccines, so while I am waiting for my second shot in June, she's already vaccinated.
I concur re. mid-summer. (Crosses fingers too)
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Is anyone else had or getting a vast amount of hate from randoms in your inbox because you’ve worked in Covid times? I’m seeing a real decline in bookings and interest lately and more messages about how much of a horrible person I am for spreading Covid, I don’t even want to check my inbox on AW anymore!! Maybe there are more girls working now, has anyone else picked up or declined in interest the last couple of weeks? With things return more to a normality I thought I would be busy this week but it isn’t the case
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I don't really get much in the way of email on AW (possibly because I don't log in that often), but I do have an autoreply which basically tells them to call or text me and my profile page makes this clear too? I doubt the whingers are quite so brave when it comes to actually speaking to you directly ::).
I'm not working this week, but I've been steady away and was really busy a couple of weeks ago (followed by a quiet week which I could have done with now, but we can't have everything ;D). I'm finding more punters are starting to come back into work even if it's only a couple of days a week and the streets have been noticeably busier near me since the start of the month. I generally find Americans bloody hard work so I'm glad for them to look elsewhere, although my view is probably coloured by working in New York and having to plough through the thousand word emails that tell me everything except when they want to book and for how long :D.
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Hi all, I haven't been working since this whole covid thing started and I am finally thinking of going back (ended up failing to the last couple of times I wanted to). I will be financially stable until around April next year, if I don't go back, so that is why I haven't been in any major rush. I'm fully vaccinated, so don't think I can get much safer now? How have people found going back to work? Should I take any specific precautions with clients? I already plan not to offer kissing, but is there anything else I should do?
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Not offering kissing really isn't going to reduce your risk of catching Covid, or any other airborne viruses.
The only way to ensure you don't catch anything is to continue to not work, (or leave your house for that matter).
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Not offering kissing really isn't going to reduce your risk of catching Covid, or any other airborne viruses.
The only way to ensure you don't catch anything is to continue to not work, (or leave your house for that matter).
I agree with this. It is like when clients have asked similar questions on this and I have told them that if they are that concerned about catching anything, then they probably shouldn't be making a booking at the moment.
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I just did my first tour earlier this month and I had hand gel, anti-bac wipes to wipe surfaces and anti-bac spray to use on bedding etc after each client. If it's not something you already require you can make it that everyone has to have showers. I didn't make it a requirement for everyone as a few of my bookings were just breast relief and cob so reduced the amount of towels being used, however anyone not having a shower did have to thoroughly wash their hands. Apart from that I didn't do anything different from what I would normally do apart from request deposits which I dont really do for tours.
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Not offering kissing really isn't going to reduce your risk of catching Covid, or any other airborne viruses.
The only way to ensure you don't catch anything is to continue to not work, (or leave your house for that matter).
I mainly don't kiss or do owo because that reduces my risk of throat infections, especially tonsillitis. I'm a huge introvert, but feel I have to start pushing myself eventually. I went to an event last week and didn't get covid, so feel a little more confident. I don't know how much safer than fully vaccinated I can get. Can't exactly live a sheltered life forever.
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I went to an event last week and didn't get covid, so feel a little more confident. I don't know how much safer than fully vaccinated I can get. Can't exactly live a sheltered life forever.
Well, there you are then. You already knew the answer.
But as I said, not offering kissing isn't really going to reduce any kind of risk. It doesn't matter if you're in a room with one person or several thousand, there's still a risk of catching Covid. It's up to you to weigh up this risk, which, as you're double vaccinated, does offer you protection against getting seriously ill/being hospitalised.
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Not offering kissing really isn't going to reduce your risk of catching Covid, or any other airborne viruses.
What is a known fact is that depending on the viral load that is passed to you when catching the virus you'll get more or less ill (this was explained to me by a doctor). Eg: 1) you're in a gym and grab a towel that was used by a Covid positive person, the viral load is minimal and you might get sick or not (depends on your inmune system). If you get sick it won;t be too bad because you got a small viral load. 2) You are sitting in a theater watching a play and the person sitting next to you is coughing for an hour, the viral load you're getting is huge and you will get sick (possibly very). Now apply this equation to sex work/escorting. If you get a covid positive as client and you're in the same room interacting the viral load is smaller than if you are full on kissing the guy (viral load would be huge as mouth/nose are in close contact). My point is that kissing will increase your chances of getting a huge viral load and getting sicker.
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What is a known fact is that depending on the viral load that is passed to you when catching the virus you'll get more or less ill (this was explained to me by a doctor). Eg: 1) you're in a gym and grab a towel that was used by a Covid positive person, the viral load is minimal and you might get sick or not (depends on your inmune system). If you get sick it won;t be too bad because you got a small viral load. 2) You are sitting in a theater watching a play and the person sitting next to you is coughing for an hour, the viral load you're getting is huge and you will get sick (possibly very). Now apply this equation to sex work/escorting. If you get a covid positive as client and you're in the same room interacting the viral load is smaller than if you are full on kissing the guy (viral load would be huge as mouth/nose are in close contact). My point is that kissing will increase your chances of getting a huge viral load and getting sicker.
I do understand this already, but it's incredibly useful a post to have in this thread :)
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I do understand this already, but it's incredibly useful a post to have in this thread :)
It would be if we knew the viral load of the infected person we were kissing/in the room/on the bus with, but since we won't I can't see how much use it is when there are so many variables. Some people with HIV are extremely infectious and some aren't infectious at all (again because of viral load which we don't know).
That said, we're not doctors so we're probably best sticking to comments about what we know :).
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It would be if we knew the viral load of the infected person we were kissing/in the room/on the bus with, but since we won't I can't see how much use it is when there are so many variables. Some people with HIV are extremely infectious and some aren't infectious at all (again because of viral load which we don't know).
That said, we're not doctors so we're probably best sticking to comments about what we know :).
Agreed!
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I saw a client a while back it was not a full on service it was mostly hand relief he wanted but wanted kissing which i said i don't want to do. Not long after he said he had Covid and for me to get tested luckily i never caught it. I think i would have probably caught it if i had been kissing him.
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Just wondered whether it's covid related (higher risk from kissing) or just dislike kissing and can not put up with the bad mouth smells that come with the job, have any of you completely stopped offering it and do you find it makes no difference or a slight decline?
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Just wondered whether it's covid related (higher risk from kissing) or just dislike kissing and can not put up with the bad mouth smells that come with the job, have any of you completely stopped offering it and do you find it makes no difference or a slight decline?
I've stopped it and it's not made any material difference, thankfully
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Yes Mimi i think more are stopping it. Kissing is the service i dislike the most anyway out of everything. I am a good actress but just not with kissing haha
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Yes Mimi i think more are stopping it. Kissing is the service i dislike the most anyway out of everything. I am a good actress but just not with kissing haha
Honestly - do what feels right for you and don't feel bad! That's the advice you'd give to someone else here after all isn't it? Covid is a useful excuse but I just decided I didn't like it. It was a gamble to stop it but it hasn't made much difference (although there are obviously those who think they are special - but that's where the acting skills come in!) :D
Maybe give it a go (put a Covid excuse on your profile) and see how it goes. Your sanity is the priority here!
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I have also removed kissing not just for covid we are entering flu season also. I cannot stand their slimy tongues going in my mouth. I find the clients obsessed with kissing are the worst at it.
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Yep i have tried kissing in the past and i really struggle with it i personally just don't like it and the condition of the mouths that turn up is like doing a challenge in I'm a celebrity get me out of here hahaha
Covid has made it easier to just say no to it.
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Yes Mimi i think more are stopping it. Kissing is the service i dislike the most anyway out of everything. I am a good actress but just not with kissing haha
I feel just as you do about it EG, if they were all minty fresh and teeth looked good and clean it wouldn't be such an issue but those type are few and far between so covid has indeed become a great excuse not to.
When I tell them no kissing they don't seem to have a problem and are understanding, I find that if you're caressing their cock as you impart the information it helps ;)
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I just did my first tour earlier this month and I had hand gel, anti-bac wipes to wipe surfaces and anti-bac spray to use on bedding etc after each client. If it's not something you already require you can make it that everyone has to have showers. I didn't make it a requirement for everyone as a few of my bookings were just breast relief and cob so reduced the amount of towels being used, however anyone not having a shower did have to thoroughly wash their hands. Apart from that I didn't do anything different from what I would normally do apart from request deposits which I dont really do for tours.
Similar to me, ensure the guy wipes and cleans himself, and also got some LFTs so they can do it when they arrive and I give people the heads up before the make the boooking too that this is expected. Yeah it doesn't set the right mood but health is wealth! Most guys appreciate it.
My bookings from new men have dropped but my repeat clients are still coming. Ultimately its something we will be adjusting and living with for ever now so it's good to share tips xx
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I get every client well tell every client to thoroughly wash there hands with soap but quite a few literally just run the tap just quickly pop there hands under for 1 second and not even use the soap it's getting very annoying. Also i tell some to freshen up and no lie i have not even laid the towel down on the bed for them to lay on and there back and this is in a hotel room so we are talking seconds. So they take 5 seconds to wash hands and down below areas. It's ridiculous.
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I get every client well tell every client to thoroughly wash there hands with soap but quite a few literally just run the tap just quickly pop there hands under for 1 second and not even use the soap it's getting very annoying. Also i tell some to freshen up and no lie i have not even laid the towel down on the bed for them to lay on and there back and this is in a hotel room so we are talking seconds. So they take 5 seconds to wash hands and down below areas. It's ridiculous.
It's interesting who washes meticulously, who just performs a 2 second finger-tip rinse. Doesn't always match with their other behaviour, job, social or other status or words. On outcalls I try to without being rude, get a handwash within the first 5-15 minutes. As I often do request bathroom freshen up on arrival, it's not unnatural.
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My old regular has booked me for Thursday, after almost 2 year covid hiatus. He requested I bring lateral flow test kits and we test together before proceeding any further, bless him ??? :o
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My old regular has booked me for Thursday, after almost 2 year covid hiatus. He requested I bring lateral flow test kits and we test together before proceeding any further, bless him ??? :o
Yeah, and if either of you have it then you may pass it on to the other. Silly man ::)
I've got a regular who insists on the tests too, but at least he has the sense to do them away from me.
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My old regular has booked me for Thursday, after almost 2 year covid hiatus. He requested I bring lateral flow test kits and we test together before proceeding any further, bless him ??? :o
Good idea but he should do his at home and you do your one but maybe he do not trust you to do one without him being there. He probably knows sex workers are not using them every time we go to work and nor are any of the clients we see. He is a rare one to think of health as before the covid outbreak no clients cared about catching STI's they still wanted unprotected services.
In a way it is a good thing but none/hardly any clients will want to do a test they can barely wash there hands when told to.
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@English Green, yes, to me it sounded like he didn't trust me.
I've had a 76yo client who was (understandably) paranoid about covid and he tested me on my arrival every time.
He actually stopped seeing me right now because of Omicron.
But I totally agree on the irony of them not giving a toss about STI yet caring about covid
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So Boris just announced your. Monday people must WFH if they can, so between Boris and AW it's not a good day!!!
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But I totally agree on the irony of them not giving a toss about STI yet caring about covid
Makes my blood boil >:(
My old regular has booked me for Thursday, after almost 2 year covid hiatus. He requested I bring lateral flow test kits and we test together before proceeding any further, bless him
If he's that concerned he wouldn't have sex. It ( feels ) to me like an act of superiority? That's just my opinion, never met the guy.
I wouldn't personally see him ( if ) he still wanted to pay for unprotected services. If he always plays safe, then I would understand. He's just being a cautious guy. But the fact that he wants you to do the test in front of him! what next? A vaccine passport? :) oops spoke too soon! Thanks Boris!
after almost 2 year covid hiatus.
::) The things men say.
like I said before..........if he's that concerned he wouldn't have sex.
Everyone insists on OWO and CIM but have the audacity to demand flow tests! :FF ahhhhhhh
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It's been a bit slow for me lately, frustratingly. I need the clients and to save but it's not easy.
I've been doing shifts at my local massage parlour too to supplement. But even that doesn't bring much extra in.
I've downsized my incall to share a 1 bedroom studio with another lady.
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Everyone insists on OWO and CIM but have the audacity to demand flow tests! :FF ahhhhhhh
They don't, to be fair. I don't offer either (or RO) and nobody has tried to insist on them with me.
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They don't, to be fair. I don't offer either (or RO) and nobody has tried to insist on them with me.
Well Amy, your a very lucky bunny! Because " everyone" for the last 2.5 weeks has asked me for this service despite me stating this on my profile in three places. >:( Then when I say I dont ( politely ) they then get pissy with me and make it seem like I'm the only girl who doesn't offer these services when I know for a fact that other women like yourself do the same. Might be time of month, location or because I'm new....Only time will tell!
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But I'm not lucky - lots of people don't offer unprotected services and do fine! I honestly can't remember the last time I had a punter turn up expecting OWO; it must be years.
If you're having difficulty with whiny, pushy dickheads who want services you don't offer, ask them why they booked you and not somebody who offers the services they want? I occasionally get them expecting to do RO (mainly because I think fewer check for that than things like OWO or anal), but when it's pointed out they have to admit that they didn't read the ad and it's their own fault for not looking.
Back on topic and two different punters have told me today that their 'official' works do has been cancelled (not because anybody gives a shit but because the companies are afraid of looking bad), and in both cases the staff have just organised their own for next week. There are also people starting to lobby for government support for businesses who rely on people coming into work, so if any significant number of people are made to start working from home rather than it just being 'guidance' as it is now, we might hopefully see a bit of help again (although I wouldn't hold your breath).
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Ive had 3 regulars cancel this week, all 3 apparently tested postive for covid. And one potiental client cancel as hes nervous of catching covid. Anyone else having a spike in covid related cancellations?
On a non sex work related matter, my physio has had 9 cancellations this week due to her clients isolating (shes London).
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My old regular has booked me for Thursday, after almost 2 year covid hiatus. He requested I bring lateral flow test kits and we test together before proceeding any further, bless him ??? :o
I had a request that I do a LFT before meeting and he also asked to see my latest sti results too. I do regular LFTs and am regularly sti tested but I felt the sti request was a step too far and told him for F off. Felt very intrusive tbh.
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Yes, I've had lots of cancellations due to Covid. Of course, them contracting the virus could very well be true, but I also feel it has become a good excuse to use to get out of things these days. I also have clients messaging me saying they want to book, but not sure when due to what's going on in the world! So it's very wishy washy and hard to plan anything.
When I was working from hotels last year, staff were questioning me asking my reason for stay. I then had to provide forms of proof on multiple occasions. This proved very difficult and a couple times they wouldn't allow me to stay. One hotel said booking.com would refund me, but never did. So I've ended up loosing money from it. Anyway, I was due to see a client and couldn't check in, so I met him and explained what was going on. He ended up walking around town with me trying to get me a place to stay. Our bookings kept getting rejected by hotels/apartments etc. Eventually we found a place, and I had to thank the universe that I had a good client with me (even though it was our first time meeting) who really helped me find a place to stay.
I am thankful I have a place to do incalls from now, but Covid has made it difficult to work, just like anybody else really.
Also recently, I have had abroad bookings planned and due to restrictions changing, in the end the trips have had to be cancelled or postponed to a date I don't know of. This is out of our control, but it means that is a chunk of income that I'm not going to get anymore; and I have to change my plans again to book clients in to make up for the time I booked out for it. It's a hassle but I've got to accept you've got to be flexible.
Having said all this, I was surprised at how many people still came and saw us escorts. Everyone seemed to be in this state of fear... but not enough fear to abstain from sex! ;) I almost find it humorous how clients turn up with masks, but we know how close they're going to be getting ;)
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Yes, I've had lots of cancellations due to Covid. Of course, them contracting the virus could very well be true, but I also feel it has become a good excuse to use to get out of things these days. I also have clients messaging me saying they want to book, but not sure when due to what's going on in the world! So it's very wishy washy and hard to plan anything.
When I was working from hotels last year, staff were questioning me asking my reason for stay. I then had to provide forms of proof on multiple occasions. This proved very difficult and a couple times they wouldn't allow me to stay. One hotel said booking.com would refund me, but never did. So I've ended up loosing money from it. Anyway, I was due to see a client and couldn't check in, so I met him and explained what was going on. He ended up walking around town with me trying to get me a place to stay. Our bookings kept getting rejected by hotels/apartments etc. Eventually we found a place, and I had to thank the universe that I had a good client with me (even though it was our first time meeting) who really helped me find a place to stay.
I am thankful I have a place to do incalls from now, but Covid has made it difficult to work, just like anybody else really.
Also recently, I have had abroad bookings planned and due to restrictions changing, in the end the trips have had to be cancelled or postponed to a date I don't know of. This is out of our control, but it means that is a chunk of income that I'm not going to get anymore; and I have to change my plans again to book clients in to make up for the time I booked out for it. It's a hassle but I've got to accept you've got to be flexible.
Having said all this, I was surprised at how many people still came and saw us escorts. Everyone seemed to be in this state of fear... but not enough fear to abstain from sex! ;) I almost find it humorous how clients turn up with masks, but we know how close they're going to be getting ;)
I used the excuse fleeing a domestic abuse partner - they did not question further from proof as that was also part of rules to let people stay in hotels etc. One person said but you don't have bruises - I said not all forms of abuse is phyiscal and the lady receptionist who was a seniour role told the other female off who was a rude judgy prick.
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Still quiet. 2 years of fear, will take more than 1 week of “living with corona” for people to go back to before 2020 life. If fear from Omicron did not happen we’d be closer to normal social behaviour.
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Still quiet. 2 years of fear, will take more than 1 week of “living with corona” for people to go back to before 2020 life. If fear from Omicron did not happen we’d be closer to normal social behaviour.
From my own experience there are plenty of guys welcoming getting back to some sort of normality, maybe not so many of the over 65's though.
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Still quiet. 2 years of fear, will take more than 1 week of “living with corona” for people to go back to before 2020 life. If fear from Omicron did not happen we’d be closer to normal social behaviour.
I think you're being a little naive to think things will return to how they were before the pandemic. And besides, there is no such thing as normal. Life and society are constantly in flux - forever evolving, always changing.
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From my own experience there are plenty of guys welcoming getting back to some sort of normality, maybe not so many of the over 65's though.
I'm keeping my eye on the science and it's problematic for the over 50's and clients using hotels due to their risk profiles. That's my target market gone in a puff of smoke.
People are emotional and I think their baseline has shifted. I deleted most of my profile to slim it down but I might put some material back. I found a slightly conservative and low traffic pitch tended to appeal to older clients and put off the under 30's which suited me fine. In fact a few clients spotted my profile was skewed to put off the younger more PSE orientated and reckless type and asked me about it. I don't think traffic will return to old levels in a hurry and it may be most of an entire generation of clients has been lost. I want to keep my milfy GFE branding and may have to rework my profile to attract a younger client base. I do get them from time to time. In fact my last two clients were in their 30's and 20's. I picked up wine and dine with one and a more mature outlook with the other was the image in their mind and think I can work with this.
Those are just some ideas I've had.
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I'm keeping my eye on the science and it's problematic for the over 50's and clients using hotels due to their risk profiles. That's my target market gone in a puff of smoke.
People are emotional and I think their baseline has shifted. I deleted most of my profile to slim it down but I might put some material back. I found a slightly conservative and low traffic pitch tended to appeal to older clients and put off the under 30's which suited me fine. In fact a few clients spotted my profile was skewed to put off the younger more PSE orientated and reckless type and asked me about it. I don't think traffic will return to old levels in a hurry and it may be most of an entire generation of clients has been lost. I want to keep my milfy GFE branding and may have to rework my profile to attract a younger client base. I do get them from time to time. In fact my last two clients were in their 30's and 20's. I picked up wine and dine with one and a more mature outlook with the other was the image in their mind and think I can work with this.
Those are just some ideas I've had.
Although I've noticed some over 65s not returning, many have and many returned very early. Also younger with underlying conditions, this may be because they got vaccinated sooner than other age groups. I managed to get vaccinated way ahead of my age group, quite a few regulars knew I was leading an isolated lifestyle as many of them did too partly because of my personal life situation and I could work/earn online. I am also low volume and at first return spaced clients out by days inbetween.
Could be a whole lot of different factors but I've not noticed a dropping of age. Many of the younger clients are looking for an older woman, or my specific services and skills eg disability, Kink, BDSM. One of my younger clients has actually died although I'm certain the cause will be his underlying condition.
In some ways I think some older (and all ages) are punting because they have a sense of missed opportunity, time running out. Others simply haven't had a hug or physical contact for a long time.
Over many years of sex work I've noticed punters just stop for whatever reason, doesn't take a pandemic but we have had a very impactuous 2 years so cannot ignore that either.
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Yes, I'm not finding any difference at all in the punter demographics (and I have no idea at all why staying in hotels would make any difference to a person's risk?) and the only real difference I'm seeing now is that office-based punters who work nearby are coming into town on fewer days per week, but this is also meaning that they're wanting to make the most of their time while they are in which in turn is good for me (and the pubs, cafés, barbershops and so on).
I haven't seen any sign of the rampant paranoia that was prevalent a while back and bar a handful of regulars who haven't been in touch (and their reasons for that are nothing to do with me) it's all pretty steady away here, which likely means it'll trickle down through the rest of the country over the next few weeks and months. As Miffy said, things don't stay the same regardless and if it wasn't this it would be something else, which is why the Slow At The Minute thread has been going for fourteen years and variously blamed everything from school holidays, public holidays, religious holidays, bad weather, good weather, the World Cup/Euros/Wimbledon/Olympics, the last week before payday, the first week after payday, payday, weekends (punters stuck at home), weekdays (punters stuck at work), ebola (honestly - do a search :D), petrol prices and acts of God. Covid is just another one to add to the list.
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Yes, I'm not finding any difference at all in the punter demographics (and I have no idea at all why staying in hotels would make any difference to a person's risk?) and the only real difference I'm seeing now is that office-based punters who work nearby are coming into town on fewer days per week, but this is also meaning that they're wanting to make the most of their time while they are in which in turn is good for me (and the pubs, cafés, barbershops and so on).
I haven't seen any sign of the rampant paranoia that was prevalent a while back and bar a handful of regulars who haven't been in touch (and their reasons for that are nothing to do with me) it's all pretty steady away here, which likely means it'll trickle down through the rest of the country over the next few weeks and months. As Miffy said, things don't stay the same regardless and if it wasn't this it would be something else, which is why the Slow At The Minute thread has been going for fourteen years and variously blamed everything from school holidays, public holidays, religious holidays, bad weather, good weather, the World Cup/Euros/Wimbledon/Olympics, the last week before payday, the first week after payday, payday, weekends (punters stuck at home), weekdays (punters stuck at work), ebola (honestly - do a search :D), petrol prices and acts of God. Covid is just another one to add to the list.
100% agree with this.
But you missed out the Russian invasion of the Ukraine which probably hasn't had time to filter through yet.
I must have missed the one on Ebola!
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100% agree with this.
But you missed out the Russian invasion of the Ukraine which probably hasn't had time to filter through yet.
I must have missed the one on Ebola!
Indeed. It's understandable (because it's a lot easier to blame the entire running order of the News At Ten than it is to face the fact that your pictures are a bit shit/your prices are too high/your text makes you sound like a loon), but whilst it's good (and harmless) to have a vent, not getting as many bookings as you want usually has a reason far closer to home. Some of them are difficult or impossible to do anything about (location, available hours, access to an incall place) but others can most definitely be had a go at :)
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I noticed today the coronavirus warning has gone up on the top of my profile and then when you expand the warning it says, “there may be some areas of the site that may become unavailable due to conditions and guidance due at the time.”
This made me feel very uneasy. Perhaps they would take away the booking system as covid surges again at the moment.
Can’t keep up with adultwork and all their changes constantly living on the edge.
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I’m sure this has always been there since the very beginning of covid and that they never took the warning away. I could be wrong as I’m so used to seeing it I may have not noticed if it disappeared before. I doubt they will take the booking system away again unless we went into full lockdown Dont let it worry you as we have no restrictions at the moment
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Yes it's been there since the start of the pandemic, every time I see it I wonder when they'll remove it!
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The warning has not gone away as far as I am aware.
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Thanks for the above I feel a lot better I never noticed it before.
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And with that, the coronavirus note on AW profiles has been removed!!!
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And with that, the coronavirus note on AW profiles has been removed!!!
Woohoo! :)