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amy · « **Reply #1155 on:** 11 May 2020, 03:50:36 pm »

The Parliamentary speech is on live now - projected reopening dates for hairdressers, hotels, cinemas and so on has been given as July 4th assuming that the other conditions are met. I didn't see the start, but there was still nothing about when people could visit each other - somebody else might have seen more of it?

EnglishAmy40 · « **Reply #1156 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:00:05 pm »

I'm watching it but with one eye. Think we can meet just one person from outside our households. And I think hospitality ( if r number doesn't rise) July 4th like you say Amy but with a new way of working.

amy · « **Reply #1157 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:05:00 pm »

Quote from: EnglishAmy40 on 11 May 2020, 04:00:05 pm

I'm watching it but with one eye. Think we can meet just one person from outside our households. And I think hospitality ( if r number doesn't rise) July 4th like you say Amy but with a new way of working.

We can (from Wednesday, I think) meet one person from outside our household outdoors, but only with keeping 2m away from them. So setting up shop in the bushes at the park is not a viable alternative

Lushblossom · « **Reply #1158 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:07:31 pm »

Seriously thinking of working just lowkey from home when I can and waiting for the hotel touring dust to settle until spring. All so upsetting to those of us who see this as a career. I certainly do just I do it part time for my sanity and not just for other reasons. That way in theory I can still enjoy it lol. Even though I could do with more money I have always done part time.

Going to get a new private gallery shoot done soon in August so that will help matters.

xw5 · « **Reply #1159 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:18:51 pm »

From Twitter:

"As I understand the current rules, I'm not allowed to hug my girlfriend because we don't live together, but I am allowed to hire an escort, because that's work that can't be done from home."

ana30 · « **Reply #1160 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:24:53 pm »

Quote from: xw5 on 11 May 2020, 04:18:51 pm

From Twitter:

"As I understand the current rules, I'm not allowed to hug my girlfriend because we don't live together, but I am allowed to hire an escort, because that's work that can't be done from home."

Don;t understand the quote.. I mean unless the escort is a client of him (eg: plumber coming to fix your sink) there's not reason why this guy should be "hiring an escort" (unless it's a webcam session).

Kay · « **Reply #1161 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:26:38 pm »

Quote from: amy on 11 May 2020, 02:09:42 pm

Ana, was this meant to be a PM or something? I can't see how it addresses either what you've quoted or anything else in this thread?

I do wonder who would define somebody trying to keep themselves and their families from going hungry or losing their homes as 'unnecessary'.

I take your point, but loads of people are in the same boat, and just because escorts can do bookings on the sly it doesn't make it right, versus e.g. a driving instructor who couldn't get away with it. If you've paid your tax, there is government help available, for a start.

Anyway, it sounds as if July 4th is looking like independence day for many people, and it's not that far away. Let's keep our fingers crossed there's no setbacks until then!

ana30 · « **Reply #1162 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:38:42 pm »

Quote from: Kay on 11 May 2020, 04:26:38 pm

I take your point, but loads of people are in the same boat, and just because escorts can do bookings on the sly it doesn't make it right, versus e.g. a driving instructor who couldn't get away with it. If you've paid your tax, there is government help available, for a start.

Kay, I've been religiously paying my taxes as self-employed all these years and so far I haven't received a penny from the government. I did get a ~~teaser~~ email from HMRC telling me "I may or may not" qualify for whatever peanuts the government is planning to throw at me. Thank god for savings... phew!, but then I'm one of those priviledged few with no kids, debts, lack of savings or family members to support. I have no plans of judging those ladies who choose to work.

xw5 · « **Reply #1163 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:41:22 pm »

Quote from: Ana30 on 11 May 2020, 04:24:53 pm

Don;t understand the quote.. I mean unless the escort is a client of him (eg: plumber coming to fix your sink) there's not reason why this guy should be "hiring an escort" (unless it's a webcam session).

I suspect it was intended as a joke, but following last night's disaster, not even the 'designated survivor' in the UK Government knows the current rules for England according to his media appearances this morning:

7:52 AM - "No meetings between households"

8:11 AM - "You can meet one person from another household at a time"

8:23 AM - "You can meet multiple people at the same time while socially distancing"

8.46 AM - "You can't meet in a group of three in a park"

MORE - I'm now told that you CANNOT meet in a group of three in a park.

So you CANNOT meet both parents in a park at the same time (even if you're 2m apart).

It's fine to meet one on one in a park though. So you could meet your parents SEPARATELY, as long as you are 2m apart.

8.56 AM - "Yes you can"

Raab appears to have just repeated this on TalkRadio.

9.03 AM - "No you can't"

The government has clarified that people cannot see their parents at the same after Dominic Raab said that they could see both if they stay two metres apart in an interview.

9.10 AM - "OK, fine, you can't"

Clarification from team Raab: people can sit in parks 2m away from one parent, not both at the same time — so No10 policy from last night stands

10.07 AM - "Glad we got that all sorted"

Kay · « **Reply #1164 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:42:06 pm »

Quote from: Ana30 on 11 May 2020, 04:38:42 pm

Kay, I've been religiously paying my taxes as self-employed all these years and so far I haven't received a penny from the government. I did get a ~~teaser~~ email from HMRC telling me "I may or may not" qualify for whatever peanuts the government is planning to throw at me. Thank god for savings... phew!, but then I'm one of those priviledged few with no kids, debts, lack of savings or family members to support. I have no plans of judging those ladies who choose to work.

I got a letter saying I was eligible for the SE grant, and also checked my status on the website, which said I could apply this week. There's also the Bounce Back loans. It's not peanuts for many people!

ana30 · « **Reply #1165 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:46:25 pm »

Quote from: xw5 on 11 May 2020, 04:41:22 pm

I suspect it was intended as a joke, but following last night's disaster, not even the 'designated survivor' in the UK Government knows the current rules for England according to his media appearances this morning:

7:52 AM - "No meetings between households"

8:11 AM - "You can meet one person from another household at a time"

8:23 AM - "You can meet multiple people at the same time while socially distancing"

8.46 AM - "You can't meet in a group of three in a park"

MORE - I'm now told that you CANNOT meet in a group of three in a park.

So you CANNOT meet both parents in a park at the same time (even if you're 2m apart).

It's fine to meet one on one in a park though. So you could meet your parents SEPARATELY, as long as you are 2m apart.

8.56 AM - "Yes you can"

Raab appears to have just repeated this on TalkRadio.

9.03 AM - "No you can't"

The government has clarified that people cannot see their parents at the same after Dominic Raab said that they could see both if they stay two metres apart in an interview.

9.10 AM - "OK, fine, you can't"

Clarification from team Raab: people can sit in parks 2m away from one parent, not both at the same time — so No10 policy from last night stands

10.07 AM - "Glad we got that all sorted"

As I have no plans to meet my clients in the park I wonder what the rule is for home visitors?

amy · « **Reply #1166 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:54:31 pm »

Quote from: Ana30 on 11 May 2020, 04:38:42 pm

Kay, I've been religiously paying my taxes as self-employed all these years and so far I haven't received a penny from the government. I did get a ~~teaser~~ email from HMRC telling me "I may or may not" qualify for whatever peanuts the government is planning to throw at me. Thank god for savings... phew!, but then I'm one of those priviledged few with no kids, debts, lack of savings or family members to support. I have no plans of judging those ladies who choose to work.

No, me neither. I should get the self employed grant we can apply for later in the week - that will buy me maybe another month. I've been supporting myself (which includes paying bills and council tax on three properties including one which is empty and for sale) without any income whatsoever since mid March and at least half of whatever I get will be gone before I know it. If I get the bounceback loan approved that ought to buy me about another month but after that I'm fucked, and I consider myself to be pretty well sensible and well organised.

Quote from: Kay on 11 May 2020, 04:26:38 pm

If you've paid your tax, there is government help available, for a start.

For some, yes there is. Plenty of people are not eligible for Universal Credit (including me), and the grant is only available for people who fit into a fairly narrow set of criteria. Anybody who wasn't self employed soon enough to have submitted a tax return for the year ended April 2019, or whose self employment made up <50% of their income (whether it does now or not), or who earned even a penny more than £50K (which doesn't go that far depending on living costs, rent/mortgage, debts, how many people they are supporting - the annual rent on my work flat is more than half that) gets precisely fuck all.

The bounceback loan is all very well, but people who are already in debt may not want (or be able) to take on more. An awful lot of people are falling through the cracks, and not just sex workers.

EnglishAmy40 · « **Reply #1167 on:** 11 May 2020, 04:56:17 pm »

There aren't any concessions for sex workers going back to work because I think face masks will be required when hairdressers etc return. We fall within our own unique group and I don't think they'll mention orgie and sex worker restrictions being lifted. So I'm thinking if R stays under 1, we can return July 4th?

EnglishAmy40 · « **Reply #1168 on:** 11 May 2020, 05:02:02 pm »

Be interesting to see how VS and AW read it. I say if any of you will be struggling, go back when you think.

ana30 · « **Reply #1169 on:** 11 May 2020, 05:09:25 pm »

Quote from: EnglishAmy40 on 11 May 2020, 04:56:17 pm

There aren't any concessions for sex workers going back to work because I think face masks will be required when hairdressers etc return. We fall within our own unique group and I don't think they'll mention orgie and sex worker restrictions being lifted. So I'm thinking if R stays under 1, we can return July 4th?

I don't think sex workers fall into the hairdressers or nail saloons category, I don't remember reading anything regarding sex workers in that government 50 page PDF (but then I dozed of several times while reading it so If anyone saw something please let me know). I believe the key question (or cathegory which sex workers fall into) would be: when are people allowed to have visitors at home? (or an hotel room for that matter).

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