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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: Shewolf on 06 January 2016, 08:37:04 pm
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What I find fascinating about the men I have met is that they have all said things which demonstrate that they truly believe I love what this type of work.
One example is the other night I met a guy who was really nervous that he wouldn't meet my expectations and would disappoint me sexually/not fulfil me.
Another asked me why I did this work. As I started saying I needed a little extra money, he butted in and said: 'yeah and you miss sex etc etc...win win isn't it!'
Do they really think I like it?
What I really enjoy is the feeling I have walking away with a wad after surviving the reality of meeting a complete stranger and getting intimate with him....not the actual act. I don't do it because I am sex starved or want sex with these people.
Interested what you think...
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What I find fascinating about the men I have met is that they have all said things which demonstrate that they truly believe I love what this type of work.
One example is the other night I met a guy who was really nervous that he wouldn't meet my expectations and would disappoint me sexually/not fulfil me.
Another asked me why I did this work. As I started saying I needed a little extra money, he butted in and said: 'yeah and you miss sex etc etc...win win isn't it!'
Do they really think I like it?
What I really enjoy is the feeling I have walking away with a wad after surviving the reality of meeting a complete stranger and getting intimate with him....not the actual act. I don't do it because I am sex starved or want sex with these people.
Interested what you think...
A lot think we enjoy sex. Some may do but I for one do not. Men in general think that anything that goes in and out of us feels good. They think we feel what they feel. But it is not true. I hate sex with my clients.
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What I find fascinating about the men I have met is that they have all said things which demonstrate that they truly believe I love what this type of work.
One example is the other night I met a guy who was really nervous that he wouldn't meet my expectations and would disappoint me sexually/not fulfil me.
Another asked me why I did this work. As I started saying I needed a little extra money, he butted in and said: 'yeah and you miss sex etc etc...win win isn't it!'
Do they really think I like it?
What I really enjoy is the feeling I have walking away with a wad after surviving the reality of meeting a complete stranger and getting intimate with him....not the actual act. I don't do it because I am sex starved or want sex with these people.
Interested what you think...
A lot think we enjoy sex. Some may do but I for one do not. Men in general think that anything that goes in and out of us feels good. They think we feel what they feel. But it is not true. I hate sex with my clients.
I think it demonstrates that they don't understand the difference between women and men. For example, for women, enjoyment of sex is a lot psychological/emotional is it not? It is for me. I find it fascinating if they say they have amazing orgasms, I wonder how they have managed to do that. I can't get over it. I think it is scarey how different men are to women in relation to sex. Scarey that their emotions are so divorced from the act.
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I have to add, the way I get through it all is to focus on the fact that I am a bit kinky and find erections a fascinating phenomenon. It's kinky to see something which in society's eyes is 'not to be seen'/taboo/private.
Hahaha yes I am odd.
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I don't think they are necessarily deluded, to many it's part of their fantasy, but I have come across men who do think that all women are 'available' and up for sex. I don't know if women also think that about men, I'm sure many do. ;D
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I don't think they are necessarily deluded, to many it's part of their fantasy, but I have come across men who do think that all women are 'available' and up for sex. I don't know if women also think that about men, I'm sure many do. ;D
Yes, maybe a lot of men have to make themselves think it otherwise they couldn't pay escorts.
But I do think some men genuinely believe the women they see love it. Maybe some do? I don't know.
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Yeah they are delusional, I had one client suggest I work in order to find men. He was surprised that I was attractive and said 'it's not like you couldn't find guys'... like he thought I sell sex for the sake of sex? Weird.
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Some people have a 'I can't get enough' work persona, of course, and anyone who has done swinging knows that some women are very into anonymous sex.
Anyone offering GFE is selling an illusion to some extent, so why be surprised that some people fall for it?
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Some people have a 'I can't get enough' work persona, of course, and anyone who has done swinging knows that some women are very into anonymous sex.
Anyone offering GFE is selling an illusion to some extent, so why be surprised that some people fall for it?
I guess you're right. I guess if the men do say such stuff, it shows that I am doing the job properly :)
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I think it demonstrates that they don't understand the difference between women and men. For example, for women, enjoyment of sex is a lot psychological/emotional is it not?
Not for me. My enjoyment is mostly 'mechanical' in nature and I've actually gotten together with people before because they were good lays, and only then developed attachment to them (my current SO comes to mind). Sadly, I don't regularly enjoy work sex, because I am too concerned about my own performance and keeping up with the client's expectations. But yeah, it's not an universal thing, plenty people with female bits enjoy sex for sex's sake.
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Just speaking for myself, I don't find it all bizarre that a client would expect a prostitute to enjoy sex - it's hardly a line of work someone who didn't would take up, surely? You might not enjoy sex with them, or indeed every client, but I don't think it's delusional to think that we might have higher than normal sex drives. I do. If I was a vegetarian, I wouldn't go and work in a butcher's!
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I have to add, the way I get through it all is to focus on the fact that I am a bit kinky and find erections a fascinating phenomenon. It's kinky to see something which in society's eyes is 'not to be seen'/taboo/private.
Hahaha yes I am odd.
I don't think you are, unless I am too. lol
I like seeing cocks getting hard, especially when it's spontaneous and out of the guys control.
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Just speaking for myself, I don't find it all bizarre that a client would expect a prostitute to enjoy sex - it's hardly a line of work someone who didn't would take up, surely? You might not enjoy sex with them, or indeed every client, but I don't think it's delusional to think that we might have higher than normal sex drives. I do. If I was a vegetarian, I wouldn't go and work in a butcher's!
It would be a lie if I said I enjoy every single client who comes through my door (or me his) Some guys are more enjoyable than others due to a certain 'chemistry', but I very rarely have 'bad' clients. I've enjoyed all sorts of sexual contact from a young age and often been slated for it by other people (Ex boyfriends) and women (mostly family) My high sex drive hasn't lessened as I've got older, I just know what I like more now (although that changes over time)
If I hated sex I wouldn't be able to do it for any amount of money.
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It's never the ones who think I really like sex that bother me. If I can convince somebody I enjoy their company they are more likely to keep coming back. It's not much different to a strip club or even a flirty waitress looking for tips from a regular customer. The only ones who bother me are the ones who get too far into the fantasy and start asking me to move in with them after 1-2 meets. I guess there are guys like that on dating websites too.
As for how I feel I've become pretty detached from it I can just put on my work head and get on with it. Sometimes things have bothered me and I got upset after seeing a client but I just see it as a job now.
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A lot of people (both clients and people in general) think it's black and white - either you do this job because you just love having sex with strangers and you're so horny all the time, or you hate it and are being irreversibly damaged by it. They don't realise there's a huge grey area, which I think most of us are in. I enjoy my job - I enjoy providing a service and seeing the client go away happy. I don't love it or hate it, I just like it and that's fine.
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Some people have a 'I can't get enough' work persona, of course, and anyone who has done swinging knows that some women are very into anonymous sex.
Anyone offering GFE is selling an illusion to some extent, so why be surprised that some people fall for it?
I agree.
I also agree with you OP some in this business won't enjoy the sex or most of it.
But me personally I'm a bit weird and I get off on having sex with strangers and like the taboo aspect of sleeping with guys who I wouldn't normally go for.. That's just me though I am sure I am in the minority when I say I enjoy it. I am very part time though and only see around 3 sometimes 4 clients a week and am extra picky recently and that usually works for me. Yes I get guys that I don't enjoy it with usually the sweaty unhygienic completely delusional guys who bash at your cervix and scratch your vagina walls with their sharp nails. But mostly I do enjoy it and get great fun out of meeting people who I would never come across in normal life. As I said I'm a weirdo and the thought of fucking a stranger turns me on lol! I have done swinging and used to have a profile on Fabswingers until very recently. I just generally enjoy casual sex.
I can totally understand where you're coming from though I've had clients assume I do this job because I miss sex or because I can't do any other job yes one client actually said that lol! i guess we are all different! X
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Just speaking for myself, I don't find it all bizarre that a client would expect a prostitute to enjoy sex - it's hardly a line of work someone who didn't would take up, surely? You might not enjoy sex with them, or indeed every client, but I don't think it's delusional to think that we might have higher than normal sex drives. I do. If I was a vegetarian, I wouldn't go and work in a butcher's!
I didn't take up this job to enjoy sex. All I was thinking about at the start was the money. I still do now. And no, I know of women who would rather read a book and fall asleep than have sex and they are still prostitutes. Saying that, if i was vegetarian I would still go work in the butchers. I am not working there to go eat meat just to make money. You have to do what you have to do. It's not delusional to think we have higher than normal sex drives but it's delusional to think that we all enjoy it with them specifically (which would mean being aroused by them) when the majority of us don't. I have a high sex drive in my normal life (which is slowly decreasing due to this job) but when in work mode I zone out and for that time I'm with them my mind is in mars. But I take them saying "oh you are really horny blah blah blah) as a complement as it just means I am a superb actress.
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Just speaking for myself, I don't find it all bizarre that a client would expect a prostitute to enjoy sex - it's hardly a line of work someone who didn't would take up, surely? You might not enjoy sex with them, or indeed every client, but I don't think it's delusional to think that we might have higher than normal sex drives. I do. If I was a vegetarian, I wouldn't go and work in a butcher's!
I didn't take up this job to enjoy sex. All I was thinking about at the start was the money. I still do now. And no, I know of women who would rather read a book and fall asleep than have sex and they are still prostitutes. Saying that, if i was vegetarian I would still go work in the butchers. I am not working there to go eat meat just to make money. You have to do what you have to do. It's not delusional to think we have higher than normal sex drives but it's delusional to think that we all enjoy it with them specifically (which would mean being aroused by them) when the majority of us don't. I have a high sex drive in my normal life (which is slowly decreasing due to this job) but when in work mode I zone out and for that time I'm with them my mind is in mars. But I take them saying "oh you are really horny blah blah blah) as a complement as it just means I am a superb actress.
But true vegetarians wouldn't work in a Butchers since they wouldn't agree with the killing or consuming of animals, any vegetarian that works in a Butchers can't be a true one in my eyes.
Personally I could never ever do a job I don't enjoy no matter how much money, it would impact on my life and would depress me, I had a job in retail before I escorted and I hated it and ended up leaving because I got depressed working all those long hours and being practically shat on for such shit pay. I'm sure there are women out there who can do jobs they don't enjoy and make it look as though they enjoy it but personally I couldn't and I'm amazed at others who can do it.
Escorting for me is a job yes but it's also fun with a bonus of extra pay for me. If escorting is impacting on your normal sex life I would say you probably need a long break.
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If escorting is impacting on your normal sex life I would say you probably need a long break.
Assuming someone has actual alternative options, yeah. Though it's not always as so clear cut as that.
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Just speaking for myself, I don't find it all bizarre that a client would expect a prostitute to enjoy sex - it's hardly a line of work someone who didn't would take up, surely? You might not enjoy sex with them, or indeed every client, but I don't think it's delusional to think that we might have higher than normal sex drives. I do. If I was a vegetarian, I wouldn't go and work in a butcher's!
I didn't take up this job to enjoy sex. All I was thinking about at the start was the money. I still do now. And no, I know of women who would rather read a book and fall asleep than have sex and they are still prostitutes. Saying that, if i was vegetarian I would still go work in the butchers. I am not working there to go eat meat just to make money. You have to do what you have to do. It's not delusional to think we have higher than normal sex drives but it's delusional to think that we all enjoy it with them specifically (which would mean being aroused by them) when the majority of us don't. I have a high sex drive in my normal life (which is slowly decreasing due to this job) but when in work mode I zone out and for that time I'm with them my mind is in mars. But I take them saying "oh you are really horny blah blah blah) as a complement as it just means I am a superb actress.
But true vegetarians wouldn't work in a Butchers since they wouldn't agree with the killing or consuming of animals, any vegetarian that works in a Butchers can't be a true one in my eyes.
Personally I could never ever do a job I don't enjoy no matter how much money, it would impact on my life and would depress me, I had a job in retail before I escorted and I hated it and ended up leaving because I got depressed working all those long hours and being practically shat on for such shit pay. I'm sure there are women out there who can do jobs they don't enjoy and make it look as though they enjoy it but personally I couldn't and I'm amazed at others who can do it.
Escorting for me is a job yes but it's also fun with a bonus of extra pay for me. If escorting is impacting on your normal sex life I would say you probably need a long break.
To be fair, I don't think she was saying it impacts her normal life, she was just saying that due to the nature of her job.....her sex drive isn't as high as it would have been if she wasn't doing this job and I can totally understand that x
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But true vegetarians wouldn't work in a Butchers since they wouldn't agree with the killing or consuming of animals, any vegetarian that works in a Butchers can't be a true one in my eyes.
Personally I could never ever do a job I don't enjoy no matter how much money, it would impact on my life and would depress me, I had a job in retail before I escorted and I hated it and ended up leaving because I got depressed working all those long hours and being practically shat on for such shit pay. I'm sure there are women out there who can do jobs they don't enjoy and make it look as though they enjoy it but personally I couldn't and I'm amazed at others who can do it.
DW, vegetarianism or veganism concerns what somebody eats (and to some extent wears), not their personal beliefs or what they do for a living; some people just don't like meat. I know one vegan chef and I've worked in food retail with several vegetarians, including at one butchers; what you're talking about (and the part which relates to this) are people who can't or don't want to separate work from their personal feelings. As the old sayng goes, principles are great if you can afford them ::).
A lot of people (both clients and people in general) think it's black and white - either you do this job because you just love having sex with strangers and you're so horny all the time, or you hate it and are being irreversibly damaged by it. They don't realise there's a huge grey area, which I think most of us are in. I enjoy my job - I enjoy providing a service and seeing the client go away happy. I don't love it or hate it, I just like it and that's fine.
I'm with Nova. There's another thread somewhere where somebody posted that they don't think of work sex as 'sex', and I agree with that too - I don't do my job to get my rocks off and all the enjoyment is to do with the satisfaction of doing it well. Anybody who's doing anything full time for a living is going to have times where it's great, times where they would rather be doing anything else on earth and the rest of the time it's just completely mundane, everyday stuff. That's the nature of work.
Why people think we're any different is a mystery to me too, and whilst nodding politely is part of my job I've pointed out to a few punters (usually when it's assumed that if I'm busy or unavailable it's because I'm having sex with somebody else rather than at the cinema or doing my shopping, or whatever) that I'm as ordinary as anybody else.
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Personally I think it's good that a client would be thinking you/escorts in general enjoy sex. A punter wanting to fuck a woman he knows doesn't enjoy herself-- doesn't that seem a hell of a lot creepier?
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Personally I think it's good that a client would be thinking you/escorts in general enjoy sex. A punter wanting to fuck a woman he knows doesn't enjoy herself-- doesn't that seem a hell of a lot creepier?
I think that's a pretty loaded way of putting it - there's a big difference between 'enjoying yourself' (or even enjoying sex) and getting actual physical or sexual gratification from it. As far as I'm concerned the latter isn't going to happen just because Joe Punter and his penis have had a bath and turned up on time, but that doesn't mean I won't thoroughly enjoy their company for an hour or whatever.
I don't think most punters are dumb enough to think that we're all reduced to a damp knickered mess at the thought of a shag, at least not in my experience. That doesn't mean they want to have sex with somebody who's hating every second because that isn't the same thing either and to be honest, even if their chosen prossie is hating every second (even if it's just because she's got a headache or is hungry or needs a poo) then provided their paid experience isn't affected by it that - along with whatever else is going on inside her head - is none of their business. Handing over cash doesn't give anybody the right to control what we think or how we feel.
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I think that's a pretty loaded way of putting it - there's a big difference between 'enjoying yourself' (or even enjoying sex) and getting actual physical or sexual gratification from it. As far as I'm concerned the latter isn't going to happen just because Joe Punter and his penis have had a bath and turned up on time, but that doesn't mean I won't thoroughly enjoy their company for an hour or whatever.
I don't think most punters are dumb enough to think that we're all reduced to a damp knickered mess at the thought of a shag, at least not in my experience. That doesn't mean they want to have sex with somebody who's hating every second because that isn't the same thing either and to be honest, even if their chosen prossie is hating every second (even if it's just because she's got a headache or is hungry or needs a poo) then provided their paid experience isn't affected by it that - along with whatever else is going on inside her head - is none of their business. Handing over cash doesn't give anybody the right to control what we think or how we feel.
But some of them sure do think it does! How about the guys who almost demand that you enjoy yourself or spend ages trying to give an orgasm?
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I'm not sure it's delusional per se, many wg have "I do it because I love sex" type headlines in their online profiles. However, the act of money crossing palms changes EVERYTHING. Punters will try to get the absolute best bang for their buck (for want of a better expression) and that often means attempting to satisfy the lady they are with. The fact that it's hardly ever going to happen doesn't stop them trying. Dunno whether that IS actually delusion or just blind optimism.
I get asked, especially from newer (younger) clients whether I personally sexually enjoy spanking men. I'm honest, sometimes I do, I can be great fun, sometimes I don't. SOME clients can be horribly sleazy.
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But some of them sure do think it does! How about the guys who almost demand that you enjoy yourself or spend ages trying to give an orgasm?
If it's possible it will happen, guidance as to how to do that.
If it's not, either lying and eventually faking it, or distraction 'I want to suck your cock'-style.
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But some of them sure do think it does! How about the guys who almost demand that you enjoy yourself or spend ages trying to give an orgasm?
If it's possible it will happen, guidance as to how to do that.
If it's not, either lying and eventually faking it, or distraction 'I want to suck your cock'-style.
For my part, I just gently tell them that I take so long that we'd waste an entire booking on me, and then refocus the entire thing on them again.
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But some of them sure do think it does! How about the guys who almost demand that you enjoy yourself or spend ages trying to give an orgasm?
If it's possible it will happen, guidance as to how to do that.
If it's not, either lying and eventually faking it, or distraction 'I want to suck your cock'-style.
For my part, I just gently tell them that I take so long that we'd waste an entire booking on me, and then refocus the entire thing on them again.
That's a good idea! Although I'm never sure if they're doing things such as RO, for example, because they really like to do it (in which case go ahead, no problem) or because they assume it will give me an orgasm.
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Why people think we're any different is a mystery to me too, and whilst nodding politely is part of my job I've pointed out to a few punters (usually when it's assumed that if I'm busy or unavailable it's because I'm having sex with somebody else rather than at the cinema or doing my shopping, or whatever) that I'm as ordinary as anybody else.
That's what I can't understand too, a lot of guys assume that because I haven't answered my phone or I've said I'm busy that I must be having constant sex with clients one after another they'll say things like 'wow you're busy you must be making loads!' I can never get hold of you!!! I've sometimes tried to explain that I do have lots of other things going on, other commitments, ie; a private life. Without boring them to death with the petty details and giving them too much info I often just say yes I am, to shut them up lol!
I had one young man absolutely astonished that I was going on holiday, he went "think of all the money you'll be losing"! Its like banging your head up against a brick wall with some of them.
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DW, vegetarianism or veganism concerns what somebody eats (and to some extent wears), not their personal beliefs or what they do for a living; some people just don't like meat. I know one vegan chef and I've worked in food retail with several vegetarians, including at one butchers; what you're talking about (and the part which relates to this) are people who can't or don't want to separate work from their personal feelings. As the old sayng goes, principles are great if you can afford them ::).
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Why people think we're any different is a mystery to me too, and whilst nodding politely is part of my job I've pointed out to a few punters (usually when it's assumed that if I'm busy or unavailable it's because I'm having sex with somebody else rather than at the cinema or doing my shopping, or whatever) that I'm as ordinary as anybody else.
Ah right I've never known that Amy, then again I don't know many vegetarians and am probably only going of how I would probably work! Everyone is different in all aspects!
That makes me laugh when clients can't get hold of you and they assume it's because you're having sex at every given chance, no sweet I'm shopping, and having a day off like normal workers do >:(
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I think that's a pretty loaded way of putting it - there's a big difference between 'enjoying yourself' (or even enjoying sex) and getting actual physical or sexual gratification from it. As far as I'm concerned the latter isn't going to happen just because Joe Punter and his penis have had a bath and turned up on time, but that doesn't mean I won't thoroughly enjoy their company for an hour or whatever.
I don't think most punters are dumb enough to think that we're all reduced to a damp knickered mess at the thought of a shag, at least not in my experience. That doesn't mean they want to have sex with somebody who's hating every second because that isn't the same thing either and to be honest, even if their chosen prossie is hating every second (even if it's just because she's got a headache or is hungry or needs a poo) then provided their paid experience isn't affected by it that - along with whatever else is going on inside her head - is none of their business. Handing over cash doesn't give anybody the right to control what we think or how we feel.
But some of them sure do think it does! How about the guys who almost demand that you enjoy yourself or spend ages trying to give an orgasm?
That really pisses me off the guys who come in a booking trying to make you orgasm in the first 10 minutes "are you close yet" it gets on my nerves that eventually I'll be like "let me suck your cock" or I'll move and initiate sex because I'm sensitive and too much finger bashing especially when some of these guys have massive fingers and two of their fingers is three of mine, I can get sore real quick. I wish some of them would educate themselves or atleast lose the ego so we could actually tell them how to do it!
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That's a good idea! Although I'm never sure if they're doing things such as RO, for example, because they really like to do it (in which case go ahead, no problem) or because they assume it will give me an orgasm.
I have serious trouble climaxing, even during sex in my private life (I think I had an orgasm like 4 times in my whole life if we disregard masturbating), so I pretty much prefer to tell them how it is rather than having them waste their playtime. At least then they also know it's nothing 'personal', because it really isn't, I am just somewhat dysfunctional downstairs.
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That really pisses me off the guys who come in a booking trying to make you orgasm in the first 10 minutes "are you close yet" it gets on my nerves that eventually I'll be like "let me suck your cock" or I'll move and initiate sex because I'm sensitive and too much finger bashing especially when some of these guys have massive fingers and two of their fingers is three of mine, I can get sore real quick. I wish some of them would educate themselves or atleast lose the ego so we could actually tell them how to do it!
I don't allow fingering for this exact reason. Putting aside the amount of fingers some try to put in there, it's the raggy nails or the raggy skin and the fact that they try to stuff them in there when I'm not wet or anything yet.
I tried to get past this issue before banning fingering altogether by placing a little lube inside myself but that cause one frantic client to slip and cut my entire clit/hood area, was out of work the rest of that day and the following.
Fingering is one of those ones where some ladies will love it and others cringe at it because some of us are more sensitive than others, maybe some of us have thinner skin down there than others. Feck knows but I just can't allow it anymore.
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I agree Kendra. I have contemplated not allowing it but I do enjoy it when it's done right and I'm not being scratched lol!
I'm quite tight aswell so when clients try and shove three fingers up its actually painful. One client did that a few weeks ago, he was 67 and enjoyed fingering, all was fine until he thought it was okay to try and stick four fingers in me, I have never jerked up so quick, eventually at the end of the booking I went to the loo had a wee wiped and there was blood not even little blotched but a big blotch I couldn't believe it, the next two days I had to cancel bookings. I didn't even bother telling him just blocked his number but as I use an android for my work phone I can still see his texts he sent me loads over the Christmas Period eventually told him what he had done and how much it hurt and that I had to cancel bookings, he was sorry and didn't even realise what he's done even offered to transfer the cost of the two bookings I lost and offered to buy my favourite perfume, no thanks!
I make it very clear on my profile I'm tight and be gentle but this guy chose not to listen. He still tries texting me now with his "Baby I'm sorry, please" LOL. It baffles me how these men can be so rough with us sometimes, had I bit on his cock or handled it rough he would've had something to say guaranteed. This client was delusional himself really believed I fancied him and that he could buy me off with money and perfume in order to get another booking!
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I agree Kendra. I have contemplated not allowing it but I do enjoy it when it's done right and I'm not being scratched lol!
I'm quite tight aswell so when clients try and shove three fingers up its actually painful. One client did that a few weeks ago, he was 67 and enjoyed fingering, all was fine until he thought it was okay to try and stick four fingers in me, I have never jerked up so quick, eventually at the end of the booking I went to the loo had a wee wiped and there was blood not even little blotched but a big blotch I couldn't believe it, the next two days I had to cancel bookings. I didn't even bother telling him just blocked his number but as I use an android for my work phone I can still see his texts he sent me loads over the Christmas Period eventually told him what he had done and how much it hurt and that I had to cancel bookings, he was sorry and didn't even realise what he's done even offered to transfer the cost of the two bookings I lost and offered to buy my favourite perfume, no thanks!
I make it very clear on my profile I'm tight and be gentle but this guy chose not to listen. He still tries texting me now with his "Baby I'm sorry, please" LOL. It baffles me how these men can be so rough with us sometimes, had I bit on his cock or handled it rough he would've had something to say guaranteed. This client was delusional himself really believed I fancied him and that he could buy me off with money and perfume in order to get another booking!
Oh don't get me wrong, I enjoy fingering too because I've never once been hurt when it's my private life but when it comes to work....there are just so many that don't do it right that I can't even relax with the ones who do, do it right.
I don't know how tight I am down there or if I'm like the Clyde Tunnel but I do know that 3 fingers kills me too but that might be more down to tensing up than anything else. Trying to stick 1 dry finger in there when your not ready for it is sore.
Fact is, as women we take longer than a man (way, way longer) to become aroused and some men unfortunately don't seem to understand that.
xx
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I'm getting lots of clients ask me if I enjoy my job. They must be picking up on my off mood lol I just say yes but sometimes I get people I don't get on with etc etc. One looked shocked when I said I wasn't a nympho & didn't go swinging, he was deluded! Another regular said something along the lines of "you get to try out how good men are & get paid for the privilege" in a churlish way, he then back tracked. Yeah right buddy didn't have an orgasm that time did I. Had one guy say he wouldn't want to be with someone who wasn't happy doing the job when I looked serious about something.
I don't understand how some aren't picking up on my negative body language etc & keep coming back..so leads me to believe some are deluded.
I spend alot of time thinking about the end goals I'm trying to achieve to get through when I'm not enjoying the sex or their company.
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I'm getting lots of clients ask me if I enjoy my job. They must be picking up on my off mood lol I just say yes but sometimes I get people I don't get on with etc etc. One looked shocked when I said I wasn't a nympho & didn't go swinging, he was deluded! Another regular said something along the lines of "you get to try out how good men are & get paid for the privilege" in a churlish way, he then back tracked. Yeah right buddy didn't have an orgasm that time did I. Had one guy say he wouldn't want to be with someone who wasn't happy doing the job when I looked serious about something.
I don't understand how some aren't picking up on my negative body language etc & keep coming back..so leads me to believe some are deluded.
I spend alot of time thinking about the end goals I'm trying to achieve to get through when I'm not enjoying the sex or their company.
To be fair Emma, you'd have no business at all if they picked up on your negative body language.
My body language is only "off" or "negative" if I don't like someone or if they are hurting me in which case wouldn't take another appointment from them again, I wouldn't wait on them picking up on my body language before they took the hint.
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I'm getting lots of clients ask me if I enjoy my job. They must be picking up on my off mood lol I just say yes but sometimes I get people I don't get on with etc etc. One looked shocked when I said I wasn't a nympho & didn't go swinging, he was deluded! Another regular said something along the lines of "you get to try out how good men are & get paid for the privilege" in a churlish way, he then back tracked. Yeah right buddy didn't have an orgasm that time did I. Had one guy say he wouldn't want to be with someone who wasn't happy doing the job when I looked serious about something.
I don't understand how some aren't picking up on my negative body language etc & keep coming back..so leads me to believe some are deluded.
I spend alot of time thinking about the end goals I'm trying to achieve to get through when I'm not enjoying the sex or their company.
Erm, having sex with these men is not a privilege, them having sex with me is. To me, with some, it's more like a nightmare that i can't wait to wake up from. All i think about is the door hitting their back on the way out. I had one client ask if I still enjoy the job. I said yes but my face said no. I saw how shocked his face was. I always put on a charade when doing the deed but when it comes to them down right asking me if I enjoyed that etc I sometimes can't control my body language. I can't look at someone in the eye and lie. next time I would look away and then respond. If a client ever said to me "I get paid for the privilege of sexing them" I would speak my mind. I don't like it when people lie to themselves. I am a very honest person :)
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I have had orgasm with clients but I don't always get sexually aroused. It depends and really I like the man, how he is, but not the look actually, but how he kisses, how he touch me, etc... And that always has been an older, not the good looking type you might think. But I don't get orgasm every day but I think once a week or so. I don't have sex outside my work.
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Erm, having sex with these men is not a privilege, them having sex with me is. To me, with some, it's more like a nightmare that i can't wait to wake up from. All i think about is the door hitting their back on the way out. I had one client ask if I still enjoy the job. I said yes but my face said no. I saw how shocked his face was. I always put on a charade when doing the deed but when it comes to them down right asking me if I enjoyed that etc I sometimes can't control my body language. I can't look at someone in the eye and lie. next time I would look away and then respond. If a client ever said to me "I get paid for the privilege of sexing them" I would speak my mind. I don't like it when people lie to themselves. I am a very honest person :)
Jessica if you genuinely feel this way, do you think this is the job for you? If you feel that unhappy, you'll only do yourself damage.
Just the bit with you saying you can't wait till the door hits them on their arse on the way out.
I moan and groan on here about all the idiots, the wankers and the eejits that I never want to meet with in the first place or if I'm unfortunate enough to meet them then to never put myself through another booking with them again but I could never speak like that about my actual clients.
Our clients feed us, pay our bills, pay our holidays, pay our life styles and pay for our future if your saving any money so you gotta have a little respect for that.
When my phone rings or a text comes through from one of my clients, my actual face lights up because for me personally, I get such a buzz from making really good money while entertaining a decent man who's company I enjoy.
I have actually just had a conversation with one of my clients on the phone there about the festive period and it was lovely to speak to him then he books me for tomorrow at 6pm and I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing him.
I haven't been feeling well lately (been either off or taking it easy the last few days and it's nothing contagious incase anyone's wondering) that's why I've been posting a lot on here but one of my clients this morning brought in a huge bunch of flowers (and I mean huge) and a beautiful Pandora bracelet with 5 gorgeous charms on it all meaning really sweet things such as happiness, health, friendship, trust & caring. I mean how adorable is that? He did it to make me feel better and because he has a huge heart.
I could go on and on and on about lovely wee stories in relation to my clients so just couldn't imagine seeing them and feeling that bitter about them.
Not having a go at you, certainly not meaning to. I just find it a little hard to read sometimes when I see people saying things like that meaning all their clients in general rather than just the bad ones.
Yes I can fully admit that when I have a horrible client, I can't wait until he leaves either but that's as far as it goes.
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Not having a go at you, certainly not meaning to. I just find it a little hard to read sometimes when I see people saying things like that meaning all their clients in general rather than just the bad ones.
Yes I can fully admit that when I have a horrible client, I can't wait until he leaves either but that's as far as it goes.
I absolutely agree with you. I think a lot of us do post on here more about the negative experiences rather than the positive. I have lots and lots of positive bookings and I agree if these men didn't book is we wouldn't be making the money we are so I am grateful. I don't think I am better or any worse than them and treat them just like anyone else because at the end of the day they are normal people paying for a service just like someone pays for a service off a hairdresser.
I also agree Jessica your posts are very negative and make me think that you really don't enjoy this job and don't enjoy the men who book you either, it makes me wonder why you do this. I don't particularly see it as a privilege for the men to be sleeping with me however I am grateful that they booked me over all the girls on the area on that day I find it flattering. Yes there are plenty of cunts in this business who can really make you not enjoy the job sometimes but there are also some lovely normal guys who understand it's a business transaction and know it will never be more than that.
As I've said before I personally could never do a job I didn't enjoy it would depress me, but clearly some girls can do that.
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Some of us do it simply for the money. We do it because we are using skills we know we have honed through the years (making men happy) in order to MAKE MONEY :) Some of us have tried every other option to keep children fed etc and yet still can't make ends meet.
This is not negative. It's a fact. Luckily, the guys I have met so far have treated me very nicely but I still don't 'like' getting naked with them.
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I absolutely agree with you. I think a lot of us do post on here more about the negative experiences rather than the positive. I have lots and lots of positive bookings and I agree if these men didn't book is we wouldn't be making the money we are so I am grateful. I don't think I am better or any worse than them and treat them just like anyone else because at the end of the day they are normal people paying for a service just like someone pays for a service off a hairdresser.
I also agree Jessica your posts are very negative and make me think that you really don't enjoy this job and don't enjoy the men who book you either, it makes me wonder why you do this. I don't particularly see it as a privilege for the men to be sleeping with me however I am grateful that they booked me over all the girls on the area on that day I find it flattering. Yes there are plenty of cunts in this business who can really make you not enjoy the job sometimes but there are also some lovely normal guys who understand it's a business transaction and know it will never be more than that.
As I've said before I personally could never do a job I didn't enjoy it would depress me, but clearly some girls can do that.
Yeah whenever my client leaves whether he's a regular or a newbie....I always thank them and that's because I'm grateful that they picked me over everyone else.
I can hold my hands up and openly admit to fucking hating this job when I'm dealing with the horrible side of it or when I have a horrible client or when I have to deal with the backlash of a punter with an axe to grind (fictional no doubt) just the same as every job has its downsides. I used to get so anxious when I worked in the salon and stressed out my head if I was really busy and running behind on my appointments, sometimes I would have 4 clients in the salon at one time all at different stages in the process......stress city and then I hated the fact that I used to work such long hours, get so stressed out and then get paid dreadful money at the end of the month.
But I do hairdressing/beauty/makeup because it's my passion and I just love it not to mention the fact that I'm pretty good at it lol but the negatives outweighed the good which is why I ended up escorting and now do my proper real job on the side and I use my escorting as a way to save up for my own salon one day.
As an escort, the POSITIVES weigh out the bad and although I vent like hell on here, this is just a place for me to get all of that out. It doesn't mean for one second that I am a moany cow when it comes to the practical side of my job i.e., dealing with my clients.
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While a lot of folks do it simply for the money, there is a difference between being financially motivated and being miserable and loathing your customer base. One is pragmatic, the other is unhealthy.
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And thank you, Shewolf (with whom I was about to cross posts).
Right, can we have less of the sanctimonious judgemental crap, please? Other posters' motivations for working, not working or anything else are not for the rest of us to call into question and to tell a grown woman who we don't know how she will be 'damaged' or that she should do a different job or anything else is not just patronising, it's unacceptable.
Is it really beyond your ken to imagine that some people just need to earn money in the most convenient way possible for them and whether or not they enjoy the way they do so isn't a primary concern for them? Seriously?
I hated being a barmaid, a sales assistant, a waitress and just about everything else in civvy land but I had to work to support myself. Had you asked me about it at the time and I'd told you this (which would never happen, because only prostitutes seem to have to tolerate this cobblers) would I have been subjected to the same earnest lectures about how I should stop immediately and do something else because I didn't enjoy my work? No, because everybody else is allowed to dislike their jobs and still keep doing them without anybody else thinking it's even remotely strange.
And for fecks sake, stop with the giant multiquotes before I stick my bloody head through the window.
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Some of us do it simply for the money. We do it because we are using skills we know we have honed through the years (making men happy) in order to MAKE MONEY :) Some of us have tried every other option to keep children fed etc and yet still can't make ends meet.
This is not negative. It's a fact. Luckily, the guys I have met so far have treated me very nicely but I still don't 'like' getting naked with them.
I think it's fair to say we all do it for the money, I wouldn't be doing it if the money wasn't as good as it is because this job for me personally means I can't have a relationship or go on dates, I have to lie to everyone I love and care about, I live a double life and I invite strangers into my home every day so there is a danger element to it plus obviously putting up with all the shite that does come with this job so it's definitely fair to say we do it for the money the same as anyone goes to work purely for the money.
I hate it when I hear people slagging escorts off for "just doing it for the money" as they need a reality check since everyone in the world even celebrities get out their bed every day and go to work for the money!
All I'm saying is, there is no need to be bitter towards clients in general because I don't think that's fair.
By all means rant and rave and vent when it comes to the bad but not the good, surely?
And also just pointing out that if someone hates the job that much that in the long run, they are probably gonna cause themselves some serious issues maybe with depression or something.
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I understand your perspective. However, I must add that I am not bitter about the men I see. I don't think they are wonderful as I see them each for an hour tops and so don't actually know them. I always thank them if they are respectful and decent. If they offer me more payment or a gift I say thank you very much and take it haha but I still don't think they are wonderful as I still don't know these people.
I like to think I am healthily detached but I am still aware all the time I would much rather be getting paid enough in my day to day 'professional' job so I didn't have to take risks as I do.
Amen :)
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Right, can we have less of the sanctimonious judgemental crap, please? Other posters' motivations for working, not working or anything else are not for the rest of us to call into question and to tell a grown woman who we don't know how she will be 'damaged' or that she should do a different job or anything else is not just patronising, it's unacceptable.
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And for fecks sake, stop with the giant multiquotes before I stick my bloody head through the window.
Amy this is a discussion board, sometimes depending on your mood......we really don't know what is and isn't acceptable, rules of the board aside.
Just because your on your phone and long posts bug you surely doesn't mean it's not allowed?
And nobody is being judgemental in a horrible way, we're simply trying to offer advice since that's what this whole thing is about, is it not?
I think it would be irresponsible of us to ignore some things that other ladies say that we think our advice may be of help to them.
For example, there is another thread where a lady is asking about our working hours and how she works 24 hours. Most of us are advising her not to work 24 hours because it will be of no good to her own wellbeing.
This board would become useless if it wasn't for healthy discussion that may or not help someone.
That's all, no harm, no foul, no arguing and I ain't having a go at you either......just saying :)
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Kendra, it's nothing to do with the rules - the massive quotes are horrendous to look at, completely unnecessary and a pain in the arse to scroll through even on a laptop. You're not responding to the whole thing, so please just quote the bit you're addressing directly.
While a lot of folks do it simply for the money, there is a difference between being financially motivated and being miserable and loathing your customer base. One is pragmatic, the other is unhealthy.
When I was working as a barmaid I despised virtually every person who set foot in the places I worked and who I had to serve drinks to and clean up after; I hated cleaning their disgusting mess up after them, breathing in their gross fag smoke and beer breath and having to wipe their cheap, greasy lipstick off the glasses because the machine doesn't get it off properly. They were just the ones who behaved themselves and didn't try to grope me, chat me up or start fights - the staggering, pissed up nightclub ones in particular I could happily have lined up in a row, punched in the face as hard as I could and set them on fire afterwards with a big smile on my face. And amongst my fellow bar staff I wasn't in the slightest bit unusual, either.
As soon as I put my coat and left for the night I forgot all about it and got on with my life. To some people, and whether others believe it or not, a job really is just a job. Even if it's not, provided somebody has willingly chosen to do whatever they do their choice needs to be respected.
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Shewolf, I would also not be taking the risks I do each day either if I could make the same money or even close in my real job.
Such as life though, this is the choice we've made and although I think I have a healthy detachment from the job...........I think the job is easier on me if I allow them in a little in a friendship way.
It all depends on the type of service you offer too like if your the porn star type then the bookings are gonna be like raw sex and no interaction personally what so ever with the client whereas when it's the GFE with chats in between, kisses and cuddles etc then it's probably easier for me and the client to feel closer in a friendship way. Actually I know what I'm saying here isn't coming out right but I know in my own mind what I mean lol.
My clients have never been a problem to me. Any stalker weirdos and crazies have never been regular clients, they have been weirdos from the offset.
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While a lot of folks do it simply for the money, there is a difference between being financially motivated and being miserable and loathing your customer base. One is pragmatic, the other is unhealthy.
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As soon as I put my coat and left for the night I forgot all about it and got on with my life. To some people, and whether others believe it or not, a job really is just a job. Even if it's not, provided somebody has willingly chosen to do whatever they do their choice needs to be respected.
If someone can detach themselves from a frustrating gig, that's fair enough. Not everyone does, however, and some are unfortunately unaware of how miserable their routine makes them until it blows up - I've experienced two suicides in my close social circles due to career-related pressure. Which is why I feel the way I do about this subject to begin with.
I don't feel it's disrespectful to acknowledge that not everyone is hundred percent in tune with the way something affects them. I certainly wasn't aware of just how severe my own stress-related issues were until people around me pointed it out to me, for example.
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I haven't been feeling well lately (been either off or taking it easy the last few days and it's nothing contagious incase anyone's wondering) that's why I've been posting a lot on here but one of my clients this morning brought in a huge bunch of flowers (and I mean huge) and a beautiful Pandora bracelet with 5 gorgeous charms on it all meaning really sweet things such as happiness, health, friendship, trust & caring. I mean how adorable is that? He did it to make me feel better and because he has a huge heart.
I could go on and on and on about lovely wee stories in relation to my clients so just couldn't imagine seeing them and feeling that bitter about them.
Not having a go at you, certainly not meaning to. I just find it a little hard to read sometimes when I see people saying things like that meaning all their clients in general rather than just the bad ones.
Yes I can fully admit that when I have a horrible client, I can't wait until he leaves either but that's as far as it goes.
In my view, it is US who feed, clothe etc US.....WE do this by providing a service to these men. If we didn't provide a good service, do you think they would be giving us Pandora bracelets or miniature ponies etc?
No, they would spend the money on another escort hahaha :)
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When I was working as a barmaid I despised virtually every person who set foot in the places I worked and who I had to serve drinks to and clean up after ...
As soon as I put my coat and left for the night I forgot all about it and got on with my life. To some people, and whether others believe it or not, a job really is just a job. Even if it's not, provided somebody has willingly chosen to do whatever they do their choice needs to be respected.
It's a wee bit different though, don't you think? I worked in bars too at nites because my pay in the salon was so terrible (this was before I thought about escorting) and although we used to get loads of idiots through the door, pouring them a drink and sending them on their way wasn't the same as inviting them into your home, your personal space and then getting intimate with them x
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Shewolf, I would also not be taking the risks I do each day either if I could make the same money or even close in my real job.
Such as life though, this is the choice we've made and although I think I have a healthy detachment from the job...........I think the job is easier on me if I allow them in a little in a friendship way.
It all depends on the type of service you offer too like if your the porn star type then the bookings are gonna be like raw sex and no interaction personally what so ever with the client whereas when it's the GFE with chats in between, kisses and cuddles etc then it's probably easier for me and the client to feel closer in a friendship way. Actually I know what I'm saying here isn't coming out right but I know in my own mind what I mean lol.
My clients have never been a problem to me. Any stalker weirdos and crazies have never been regular clients, they have been weirdos from the offset.
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I do understand what you're saying. I like to 'friend' them also but I suspect I am doing that as self preservation just in case they are a mad axe man not because I want to be friends. I think I am doing it so they like me and if their initial plan was to kill me, maybe my friendly manner would cause them to revise their thinking haha!
You think I'm joking? I don't think I am :))
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In my view, it is US who feed, clothe etc US.....WE do this by providing a service to these men. If we didn't provide a good service, do you think they would be giving us Pandora bracelets or miniature ponies etc?
No, they would spend the money on another escort hahaha :)
Shewolf (and others), please, please note Amy's comments about the giant quotes - they are an enormous pain in the arse!
Just hit quote, but then scroll up and delete all but the specific, relevant piece of text you want to respond to.
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OK sorry x
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It's a wee bit different though, don't you think? I worked in bars too at nites because my pay in the salon was so terrible (this was before I thought about escorting) and although we used to get loads of idiots through the door, pouring them a drink and sending them on their way wasn't the same as inviting them into your home, your personal space and then getting intimate with them x
Yes it's different - I have a choice now as to whether I even speak to them, let alone being forced to be polite to them or lose my job no matter how badly they behaved. And even when the occasional pillock slips through the net at least I know I never, ever have to deal with them again, although to this day I don't think I've ever had a punter in person speak to me in such an appalling way as the pondlife I used to have to put up with for three or four quid an hour. With self employment, we're in control, and I think to people who do find it hard going at times that's incredibly important.
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I don't feel it's disrespectful to acknowledge that not everyone is hundred percent in tune with the way something affects them. I certainly wasn't aware of just how severe my own stress-related issues were until people around me pointed it out to me, for example.
Yes, but there's a difference between expressing concern and offering support and speculating about a total strangers' mental state or deciding that they should change their behaviour in some way because you think so, however destructive that behaviour might turn out to be. Respecting each other's autonomy is vital, which is why we don't tolerate posts telling people they shouldn't do x,y or z service and suchlike.
Plus 'people around you' is a bit different to 'random strangers on the internet' :).
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I do understand what you're saying. I like to 'friend' them also but I suspect I am doing that as self preservation just in case they are a mad axe man not because I want to be friends. I think I am doing it so they like me and if their initial plan was to kill me, maybe my friendly manner would cause them to revise their thinking haha!
You think I'm joking? I don't think I am :))
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Lol I know what you mean but if someone is gonna kill you then they are no doubt a psychopath in which case they can't "feel" or empathise with you so no matter how nice you are, if they are gonna do you in....they are gonna do you in lol.
But yes, I mean my real life friends are my real life friends.
The friends I have as an escort are different but the funny thing is, some of my clients know more about me than my real life friends of 15 years do.
As I said, I really do get a buzz making such great money while entertaining someone I enjoy spending time with.
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It's a wee bit different though, don't you think? I worked in bars too at nites because my pay in the salon was so terrible (this was before I thought about escorting) and although we used to get loads of idiots through the door, pouring them a drink and sending them on their way wasn't the same as inviting them into your home, your personal space and then getting intimate with them x
Yes it's different - I have a choice now as to whether I even speak to them, let alone being forced to be polite to them or lose my job no matter how badly they behaved. And even when the occasional pillock slips through the net at least I know I never, ever have to deal with them again, although to this day I don't think I've ever had a punter in person speak to me in such an appalling way as the pondlife I used to have to put up with for three or four quid an hour. With self employment, we're in control, and I think to people who do find it hard going at times that's incredibly important.
This explains what I was trying to say the other day when some of the other ladies were saying that you should always remain professional even when a numpty client has offended you or upset you like they do in other jobs.
I was saying that people in other jobs remain professional because their boss would fire their ass if they didn't and I was saying that although I don't react anymore, I used to and I don't believe that these nasty idiotic types of clients deserve a good or professional attitude. I still believe that now, I only stopped reacting because it wasn't doing me or my reputation any good.
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In my mind other people that work in the fire emergencies service, police, antiterrorists, high construction works, etc. are coming to work every day in risky situations and some are literally everyday passing by death. Yet nobody asks them or they enjoy it, they don't try to talk them out about the risks.
As for the @Kendra, 24h working girl is just humanly not possible to work 24h, so she has to sleep, go out shopping, etc. She may be available 24h, I sometimes do if I don't sleep in night, I take some clients. So no health risk here neither.
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This explains what I was trying to say the other day when some of the other ladies were saying that you should always remain professional even when a numpty client has offended you or upset you like they do in other jobs.
I was saying that people in other jobs remain professional because their boss would fire their ass if they didn't and I was saying that although I don't react anymore, I used to and I don't believe that these nasty idiotic types of clients deserve a good or professional attitude. I still believe that now, I only stopped reacting because it wasn't doing me or my reputation any good.
Well that's as maybe, but that certainly isn't what I meant.
As I said in that thread (which isn't going to blend into this one because it's a different subject, as is the other one being brought up), if you act like a prick when you're working, you're effectively representing the organisation whatever that organisation is which is what civvy bosses know and why they would fire you, and the only reason it's never happened to me is because I've told them to stick it and walked many more times than I can remember.
I wasn't remaining professional because I cared about their shit organisation, I was doing it because I didn't want to look like a childish twat who couldn't control her temper. The difference when you're self employed is that the 'company' is you, and even if the only person on the other end is some random tosser I'm not giving them the satisfaction of thinking they've got me to sink to their level because I don't know how to do my job properly.
Back on topic now, I think.
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In my mind other people that work in the fire emergencies service, police, antiterrorists, high construction works, etc. are coming to work every day in risky situations and some are literally everyday passing by death. Yet nobody asks them or they enjoy it, they don't try to talk them out about the risks.
As for the @Kendra, 24h working girl is just humanly not possible to work 24h, so she has to sleep, go out shopping, etc. She may be available 24h, I sometimes do if I don't sleep in night, I take some clients. So no health risk here neither.
No idea what points your making with this post as there's nothing here that I disagree with?
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I'm guessing that the bottom part belongs in the Q&A thread it pertains to, so to avoid further confusion can we keep to the right sections and not cross post, please.
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The difference when you're self employed is that the 'company' is you,
I disagree a bit. In this business also we are seen collectively sometimes. When I worked in Holland there have been clients who didn't like Polish girls because they were coming for quick tours and giving bad service, just collecting the money. Then they weren't that fancy to come and see me.
Other example is where I live now, many African girls who use fake photos, clients don't want to go new black girl, cause as seen before they don't want to be disappointed. The only good thing about it is when a client with bad previous experiences comes to you, he will probably be regular.
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You may be seen collectively to some extent* but you can't do much about it except - positively - address this in your marketing and yes, by providing the service that they're paying for.
* Anyone reading this before some brutal editing may easily think that 'all escorts over quote in their posts'...
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And thank you, Shewolf (with whom I was about to cross posts).
Right, can we have less of the sanctimonious judgemental crap, please? Other posters' motivations for working, not working or anything else are not for the rest of us to call into question and to tell a grown woman who we don't know how she will be 'damaged' or that she should do a different job or anything else is not just patronising, it's unacceptable.
Is it really beyond your ken to imagine that some people just need to earn money in the most convenient way possible for them and whether or not they enjoy the way they do so isn't a primary concern for them? Seriously?
I hated being a barmaid, a sales assistant, a waitress and just about everything else in civvy land but I had to work to support myself. Had you asked me about it at the time and I'd told you this (which would never happen, because only prostitutes seem to have to tolerate this cobblers) would I have been subjected to the same earnest lectures about how I should stop immediately and do something else because I didn't enjoy my work? No, because everybody else is allowed to dislike their jobs and still keep doing them without anybody else thinking it's even remotely strange.
And for fecks sake, stop with the giant multiquotes before I stick my bloody head through the window.
This is spot on couldnt have said it better myself.To the people asking me if I am that unahppy with the job then why I am doing it? The answer is simple, I am doing it for the money. I do not hate my entire client base, I am just indifferent. I neither like them now dislike them. and yes I cannot wait for them to leave because putting on an act that I am sex hungry etc is very tiring and I just do not feel fully relaxed when they are in my presence as I do not trust them. They can switch anytime. Is it so bad that I do not enjoy having sex with these men? How many people do you know in civvy life that don't enjoy their job but still do it? I think sometimes escorting isn't considered a real job as I doubt you will tell someone that didn't really like their job in civvy life to quit. If you think about it for a second ladies, someone that is doing something they do not like, clearly doesn't really have a choice. Who would do something they didn't like if they had other options? Who would get up everyday at 5am to go to their civvy job if they didn't have other options. Do they want to get up at 5am everyday? NO! Do I want to suck wrinkly cocks every day so I can go to school? NO! But I have to. So forgive me if I want to come on here and let it out rather than keeping it bottled up inside. Atleast I act professional and I am able to pretend that I love it when in a meeting. A lot of you are quick to say "quit" but quit and do what ladies? At the moment escorting I need to do it to fund my way through my education. Such a shame that you get judged for showing a little bit of dislike for the job. and i must agree with shewolf, I feed and clothe myself. they are not giving me the money for free. I work for it.
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And thank you, Shewolf (with whom I was about to cross posts).
Right, can we have less of the sanctimonious judgemental crap, please? Other posters' motivations for working, not working or anything else are not for the rest of us to call into question and to tell a grown woman who we don't know how she will be 'damaged' or that she should do a different job or anything else is not just patronising, it's unacceptable.
Is it really beyond your ken to imagine that some people just need to earn money in the most convenient way possible for them and whether or not they enjoy the way they do so isn't a primary concern for them? Seriously?
I hated being a barmaid, a sales assistant, a waitress and just about everything else in civvy land but I had to work to support myself. Had you asked me about it at the time and I'd told you this (which would never happen, because only prostitutes seem to have to tolerate this cobblers) would I have been subjected to the same earnest lectures about how I should stop immediately and do something else because I didn't enjoy my work? No, because everybody else is allowed to dislike their jobs and still keep doing them without anybody else thinking it's even remotely strange.
And for fecks sake, stop with the giant multiquotes before I stick my bloody head through the window.
This is spot on couldnt have said it better myself.To the people asking me if I am that unahppy with the job then why I am doing it? The answer is simple, I am doing it for the money. I do not hate my entire client base, I am just indifferent. I neither like them now dislike them. and yes I cannot wait for them to leave because putting on an act that I am sex hungry etc is very tiring and I just do not feel fully relaxed when they are in my presence as I do not trust them. They can switch anytime. Is it so bad that I do not enjoy having sex with these men? How many people do you know in civvy life that don't enjoy their job but still do it? I think sometimes escorting isn't considered a real job as I doubt you will tell someone that didn't really like their job in civvy life to quit. If you think about it for a second ladies, someone that is doing something they do not like, clearly doesn't really have a choice. Who would do something they didn't like if they had other options? Who would get up everyday at 5am to go to their civvy job if they didn't have other options. Do they want to get up at 5am everyday? NO! Do I want to suck wrinkly cocks every day so I can go to school? NO! But I have to. So forgive me if I want to come on here and let it out rather than keeping it bottled up inside. Atleast I act professional and I am able to pretend that I love it when in a meeting. A lot of you are quick to say "quit" but quit and do what ladies? At the moment escorting I need to do it to fund my way through my education. Such a shame that you get judged for showing a little bit of dislike for the job. and i must agree with shewolf, I feed and clothe myself. they are not giving me the money for free. I work for it.
Jessica calm down, not one of us have said quit. None of us are in a position to tell anyone what to do.
I wasn't saying that you must LOVE this job to be able to do it, I was just saying that it's fair venting and slagging off the horrid side of this job and the horrid clients but not very nice when slagging off nice clients because without them, where would we be? If all we had to rely on was the horrid side of the business to make a living then we would all be seriously fucked (no pun intended) or completely unable to do the job.
And nobody is saying either in so many words that you must love to suck wrinkly cock, it's been taken way out of context.
Also, I was just trying to point out........ I truly believe that this job can either make you or break you in the sense where if your fairly happy doing what your doing then it can be very rewarding but on the other hand, if your desperately unhappy then it can suck you into a deep black hole of depression.
You've taken what I and a couple of others said very negatively and not the way it was intended (not to offend or upset you) so I will leave it there.
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If a client ever said to me "I get paid for the privilege of sexing them" I would speak my mind. I don't like it when people lie to themselves. I am a very honest person :)
It did get up my nose abit & he's one of the nicer ones who I get on well with. Albeit he's a bit of a pisstaker with time. Saw him in a different light yesterday. I just said yeah right with an outward sigh. Best to hold the tongue in these situations, they often feel guilty for being rude anyway.
Keep smiling everyone & hold your cash it makes you more tolerant to pain.
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100% correct Kendra. It's not judging, in my opinion if someone continuously talks negatively about their job and dislikes not just the bad clients but the good clients who are clean and respectful also I feel as though it's going to start affecting your mood and well being and you could get depressed.
I know what it's like to hate a job and get up and work 9 hours 5 days a week I did it in retail a few years back, and I did get depressed, I didn't hate my customers I hated the bosses and the managers who because I and a few others we're new they thought they could treat us like shit. It depressed me for months, then I quit and did something I love and I've never gone back. I know what it feels like to dislike a job day in day out hence why I commented on it.
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And thank you for clarifying, Jessica.
Be assured that the thread will be moving on now, one way or another. Anybody who wants to continue in the same vein can either start a new thread somewhere else, or do so for as long as they want via PM so the rest of us can get back on track with 'Client Delusions' :).
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Damn sure I'll P few people off with my views ;D... Lol, Yes some of them are hopelessly delusional but isn't it in our best interests to keep them that way? I mean surely no man (or woman) will want to come to see an escort and pay her/him a huge amount of money for a booking if they think we hate it? Is it not part of our very well paid job to make them feel amazing? I don't think I could ever tell someone I hated the job, more so because I don't ! I have the odd booking which I don't enjoy, Im sure we all do, but I hope I never show that to a client! I just think (shoot me now lol) that we are paid an incredible amount of money for what we do so let them think we love what they do to us and that we have a high sex drive.... If that means sticking to a 'Happy script' rather than telling the harsh cold truth and making them feel a bit crap and perhaps then not being so keen to book an escort again or perhaps as often, Ill happily spout the script !
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For the sake of this thread I am not going to quote comments and ask you to clarify what they mean and how I took them out of context. All I will say to you is, if me saying that I do not enjoy the sex or company of my clients is slagging them off. Then oh well. What you say is not going to change how I feel/think and vice versa. I neither like nor dislike the good clients. THE END!
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Jessica I completely understand you want to respond and I know how irritating it is when somebody always has to have the last word especially when it's the same last word they've posted five times in a row, but we're going to leave this here now, please.
Is it not part of our very well paid job to make them feel amazing? I don't think I could ever tell someone I hated the job, more so because I don't ! I have the odd booking which I don't enjoy, Im sure we all do, but I hope I never show that to a client! I just think (shoot me now lol) that we are paid an incredible amount of money for what we do so let them think we love what they do to us and that we have a high sex drive.... If that means sticking to a 'Happy script' rather than telling the harsh cold truth and making them feel a bit crap and perhaps then not being so keen to book an escort again or perhaps as often, Ill happily spout the script !
I think that's exactly our job and I'm not sure why you'd think that everybody's going to disagree with you? I don't have a 'script' as such, but I know that when new punters arrive I'm mentally working out which rough 'type' they fit into so I can plan their booking in my head whether they're nervous, quiet, energetic, friendly, experienced or newbies - it makes it a bit easier and I can always switch things around on the way through depending on how it's going.
That said, I don't lie to them about being some insatiable nympho and nor do I fake; as much as I'm keen to make sure they have a great time I'm not a good enough actress, and I'm better being realistic but without being in any way cold or brutal about it. I do think it's a bit easier for me because I don't market myself in any kind of porny way, though :).
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Escorts offer a service, a very intimate one so of course feelings will occasionally come into it, its human nature. An escort experience is a 'fantasy' an escape from the reality and stress of work/family/life issues, where clients are entitled to feel comfortable, safe, and also do things that have been on their minds for short or very often longer periods of time. It is an 'illusion' to some extent and most guys will know this. Any rational human being will realise that if a woman is charging for company/sex that is the main objective and will see it for what it is.
The 'delusion' where a client genuinely feels he's in love with the escort and she him, is different altogether, this may be created by the escort being an amazing actress, or she might genuinely have some feelings for him, or may be just playing him to get what she can out of him. Clients and escorts main roles are to use each other for their own needs/desires/wants. But its only 'delusional' when one feels so very different from the other and one can't see that.
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Where did you get 'everybody' from Amy?? I said 'a few' ::)
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As long as the client isn't becoming obsessed I'm happy to let them live put their little fantasies... I call it being an "Actress on a Mattress"
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As long as the client isn't becoming obsessed I'm happy to let them live put their little fantasies... I call it being an "Actress on a Mattress"
Yes, they can think what they like...I just find it fascinating that they don't seem to realise I am acting :D
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There was a great line in Game of Thrones: "You?re not fooling them, they just paid you. They know what you are. They know it?s all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know."
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"Your job is to make them forget what they know."
That is spot on. This is why, if we are good at this game, we must always get the money upfront hahaha! Before they go into gaga land.
Brilliant :D
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What I find fascinating about the men I have met is that they have all said things which demonstrate that they truly believe I love what this type of work.
One example is the other night I met a guy who was really nervous that he wouldn't meet my expectations and would disappoint me sexually/not fulfil me.
Another asked me why I did this work. As I started saying I needed a little extra money, he butted in and said: 'yeah and you miss sex etc etc...win win isn't it!'
Do they really think I like it?
What I really enjoy is the feeling I have walking away with a wad after surviving the reality of meeting a complete stranger and getting intimate with him....not the actual act. I don't do it because I am sex starved or want sex with these people.
Interested what you think...
A lot think we enjoy sex. Some may do but I for one do not. Men in general think that anything that goes in and out of us feels good. They think we feel what they feel. But it is not true. I hate sex with my clients.
I'n the same i hate this bloody job but the money is too good! They're definitely deluded, the only good feeling i get is when they hand me the money lol
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I like the sex and the attention I don't just work for the money. I genuinely enjoy the job although I take care not to overwork as it is then I can go a bit jaded.
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I like the sex and the attention I don't just work for the money. I genuinely enjoy the job although I take care not to overwork as it is then I can go a bit jaded.
Me too I enjoy this job very much and I'm very part time so tend to look forward to my bookings. What I don't like is silly delusional clients thinking because I'm nice to them and don't mind having a chat with them that it automatically means I want to be emotionally involved with them or date them. It's pretty annoying when they delude themselves into thinking because we are nice to them and treat them like people that we are into them.
It makes it hard for me as they will think they can text me at 2am asking me what I'm doing and if I would like to go for a drink with them... It's usually the older lonely guys who get like this, it doesn't tend to happen with the 20/30 year olds that I see it's usually the late 40s 50s guys who get delusional. I would love to tell them straight and say why would a girl of my age 22 be interested in a 50+ year old guy who is married and I'm not physically attracted to. It does make me feel sorry for them though, their wives can't be giving them that much attention if these guys are falling for any escort who books them. X
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Omg.... I just got a text listing the 6 best things he liked about me in great detail and been asked if he lived up to expectations..... Would it be rude to shatter these illusions and say 'Yes, you turned up, paid me and was a complete needy pain in the freakin ass for an hour' ? Talk about needy, this guy is up to 532 text messages... 500 of them before he did a proper booking... lol If I added all my time up and divided it by the hour he paid me for.... I think I was just above min wage for the hour...
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Little Miss London...that is stalkerish...
Has he 'lived up to your expectations' sums up what I initially meant in this thread...quite a few guys have been worried they haven't lived up to my expectations...why would they think I have expectations of their sexual performance? That's what I find weird.
Like yourself, London Lady, I only expect them to be punctual, armed with the correct money, clean, friendly and respectful.
If they are worried we may be 'let down' by them, they must think we anticipate the session with excitement or something.
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Omg.... I just got a text listing the 6 best things he liked about me in great detail and been asked if he lived up to expectations..... Would it be rude to shatter these illusions and say 'Yes, you turned up, paid me and was a complete needy pain in the freakin ass for an hour' ? Talk about needy, this guy is up to 532 text messages... 500 of them before he did a proper booking... lol If I added all my time up and divided it by the hour he paid me for.... I think I was just above min wage for the hour...
532 texts?!! You are a much more patient person than me, after about 10 texts I start to get irritated, 10 more and its annoying, any more and I just say sorry I don't wish to see you as this is obsessive behaviour. He is definitely delusional, I couldn't handle all that nonsense, not to mention all the pressure on your hands you could end up with serious carpel tunnel syndrome! wtf!
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Omg.... I just got a text listing the 6 best things he liked about me in great detail and been asked if he lived up to expectations..... Would it be rude to shatter these illusions and say 'Yes, you turned up, paid me and was a complete needy pain in the freakin ass for an hour' ? Talk about needy, this guy is up to 532 text messages... 500 of them before he did a proper booking... lol If I added all my time up and divided it by the hour he paid me for.... I think I was just above min wage for the hour...
532 texts?!! You are a much more patient person than me, after about 10 texts I start to get irritated, 10 more and its annoying, any more and I just say sorry I don't wish to see you as this is obsessive behaviour. He is definitely delusional, I couldn't handle all that nonsense, not to mention all the pressure on your hands you could end up with serious carpel tunnel syndrome! wtf!
Geezo lol i crack up if they send too many txts 😦 i had a client last week continuously emailing it got to over 20 emails & I cancelled the meet, too many emails/txts raises a red flag, in my past experiences the serial txters/emailers have turned out too needy, looking for a GF/ stalking, or just plain not right in the head 😟 if they start too contact me too much nowadays i cancel & block.
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Aftet ten texts I end up cancelling it is sometimes a first timer who can go a bit overboard. We need to be firm.
One guy wanted me to join instagram so we could swap pics. I made it clear it isn't a dating site and he has the wrong idea of an escort!
At least he left me alone however whereas another recent one has warned me he will return with another number and 'screw me anyway' no matter what! Charming.
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Aftet ten texts I end up cancelling it is sometimes a first timer who can go a bit overboard. We need to be firm.
One guy wanted me to join instagram so we could swap pics. I made it clear it isn't a dating site and he has the wrong idea of an escort!
At least he left me alone however whereas another recent one has warned me he will return with another number and 'screw me anyway' no matter what! Charming.
That's the problem, a lot of guys don't want to accept that they're paying for sex so they see it as 'dating', I find this more of a problem with the younger guys for some unknown reason.
Also another one of the reasons why I always speak to clients before accepting their booking because I've had several stalk me using loads of different phone numbers, some of them on and off for literally years.
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Yes I must admit I don't have any old guy who have tried it on asking for pics etc. Sometimes its ignorance if they are new to it, but sometimes these guys just try it on with every escort.
I think the answer (in part at any rate) is simple - the Internet Age. Guys who've grown up with the internet/social media/easy access to porn etc can often have a totally different attitude to older guys, truly some view everything as instant and disposable. Older guys tend to use the internet as a tool, technology doesn't rule their life.
I have no patience with loads of texts, 2 or 3 is my limit, I make it really clear they must call. I also make it super clear how the escort/client relationship works, because to be fair a lot of new guys simply don't know how they are supposed to behave.
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Yes i make it clear that txt/email chat pre & post meets is not part of the deal. A lot of them think because they have booked & paid for an hour that this includes chat/flirts by txt or email. We're not being paid to txt or email and i simply don't have the time anyway. These guys must think that we don't have a regular normal life lol.
An example from years ago:
I used to work in a sauna, one evening we all decided to phone for a takeaway, i phone the local chip shop, when i gave the address she said in a shocked voice "a sauna"?!? Yes i replied, we do eat like everyone else lol. Some people think we're a different species altogether 😁
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Lol Oh i have cancelled his bookings before on the basis of this, and blocked him, sneaky sod phoned through aw..... i gave him this very last chance.... Then got these texts that I ignored, today he sends me another booking request.... followed by another god knows how many texts of what he wants... Most of all is to make me happy !! Simple, ok. Stop texting me, stop contacting me and please please ride off into the sunset ! BLOCKED !!
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A lot of people (both clients and people in general) think it's black and white - either you do this job because you just love having sex with strangers and you're so horny all the time, or you hate it and are being irreversibly damaged by it. They don't realise there's a huge grey area, which I think most of us are in. I enjoy my job - I enjoy providing a service and seeing the client go away happy. I don't love it or hate it, I just like it and that's fine.
Ditto
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Dealing with a really arrogant SOB today >:( sent me a load of graphic emails through aw over several weeks then was rude & pushing for things I don't offer. Told him to forget it. Now he's booked me today & I didn't realise it was him until booking request came through whilst he was in the carpark. Told him I'm not seeing him then he starts say "my punishment is to lick your feet" - clearly not right in the head with extremely poor social skills. What a deluded freak.
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I think its all in their heads, they love to think of us as sex mad whores who cant get enough
Just as well they arent mind readers lol
We should have Oscars for our acting ability ;D
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Just speaking for myself, I don't find it all bizarre that a client would expect a prostitute to enjoy sex - it's hardly a line of work someone who didn't would take up, surely? You might not enjoy sex with them, or indeed every client, but I don't think it's delusional to think that we might have higher than normal sex drives. I do. If I was a vegetarian, I wouldn't go and work in a butcher's!
It would be a lie if I said I enjoy every single client who comes through my door (or me his) Some guys are more enjoyable than others due to a certain 'chemistry', but I very rarely have 'bad' clients. I've enjoyed all sorts of sexual contact from a young age and often been slated for it by other people (Ex boyfriends) and women (mostly family) My high sex drive hasn't lessened as I've got older, I just know what I like more now (although that changes over time)
If I hated sex I wouldn't be able to do it for any amount of money.
I'm asexual and I do hate sex. But I basically discovered I liked money more than I hate sex. Or at least, a little bit of financial stability.
So far I've only cried in one booking :FF fuuuuuuu-
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I got some feedback on AW and guy I had seen a few times texted me that he read my feedback and realised that I am 'now a proper escort'.
Fuck alone knows what he thought I was before-his girlfriend in waiting or summat?? Hahahaha.
If that's not deluded, I don't know what is...!!!!!!!!!!
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;D ;D
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Recently had a regular who says it's his fantasy to be paid for sex, ( so he knows that i like him) so not only was i to give him it free, but he wanted paying too?!? Wtf ??? ;D ;D got to see the funny side pmsl
Isn't that every mans fantasy...;-) Lol!!
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Recently had a regular who says it's his fantasy to be paid for sex, ( so he knows that i like him) so not only was i to give him it free, but he wanted paying too?!? Wtf ??? ;D ;D got to see the funny side pmsl
Isn't that every mans fantasy...;-) Lol!!
Haha yeah i think so ;D he was asking the wrong bitch this time lol i can see through the attempted manipulation tactics. Maybe the deluded think we're deluded? :-\
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No just that we are all stupid and don't own a brain cell between us.....
I would be tempted to say sure why don't you give me the money first, you go back outside, come back in again, then I can pretend to pay you!
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No just that we are all stupid and don't own a brain cell between us.....
I would be tempted to say sure why don't you give me the money first, you go back outside, come back in again, then I can pretend to pay you!
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Recently had a regular who says it's his fantasy to be paid for sex, ( so he knows that i like him) so not only was i to give him it free, but he wanted paying too?!? Wtf ??? ;D ;D got to see the funny side pmsl
Why don't you tell him if he gives you ?300 for the session at the start, you will give him half at the end, then that way you both get paid! hahaha!
Bet he won't reply to that one hahaha amused myself there...
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Recently had a regular who says it's his fantasy to be paid for sex, ( so he knows that i like him) so not only was i to give him it free, but he wanted paying too?!? Wtf ??? ;D ;D got to see the funny side pmsl
Why don't you tell him if he gives you ?300 for the session at the start, you will give him half at the end, then that way you both get paid! hahaha!
Bet he won't reply to that one hahaha amused myself there...
lol good one she wolf x
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Recently had a regular who says it's his fantasy to be paid for sex, ( so he knows that i like him) so not only was i to give him it free, but he wanted paying too?!? Wtf ??? ;D ;D got to see the funny side pmsl
Why don't you tell him if he gives you ?300 for the session at the start, you will give him half at the end, then that way you both get paid! hahaha!
Bet he won't reply to that one hahaha amused myself there...
lol good one she wolf x
Hahahahaha best idea 😂😂😂👍 or i could pay him with monopoly money 😜😂
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Recently had a regular who says it's his fantasy to be paid for sex, ( so he knows that i like him) so not only was i to give him it free, but he wanted paying too?!? Wtf ??? ;D ;D got to see the funny side pmsl
Why don't you tell him if he gives you ?300 for the session at the start, you will give him half at the end, then that way you both get paid! hahaha!
Bet he won't reply to that one hahaha amused myself there...
lol good one she wolf x
Hahahahaha best idea 😂😂😂👍 or i could pay him with monopoly money 😜😂
Yes! You can say that, as this is his fantasy, you are using fantasy money to pay him. He sounds a gob shite xx
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Recently had a regular who says it's his fantasy to be paid for sex, ( so he knows that i like him) so not only was i to give him it free, but he wanted paying too?!? Wtf ??? ;D ;D got to see the funny side pmsl
Why don't you tell him if he gives you ?300 for the session at the start, you will give him half at the end, then that way you both get paid! hahaha!
Bet he won't reply to that one hahaha amused myself there...
lol good one she wolf x
Hahahahaha best idea 😂😂😂👍 or i could pay him with monopoly money 😜😂
Yes! You can say that, as this is his fantasy, you are using fantasy money to pay him. He sounds a gob shite xx
Yeah he was great at first but just taking the piss now on more than a couple of occasions.i'm not allowing it, he can attempt manipulation elsewhere from now on haha xx
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Looking around and the old thread had kinda died...
I had a client book an overnight and he messaged me the day before saying "if you come by [hotel] at 1pm we can grab lunch and have some massages before heading up to the room" I said great did he want to start the booking from 1pm instead of 6pm as planned? He said "Oh no I just thought you might get a bit bored during the day"!! Who gets so bored they tack on a free 5hrs to an overnight??
At the same time I was dealing with a client who I met over a year ago who thinks I'm his best friend and that he loves me, despite the fact I keep telling him he cannot contact me unless he's making a booking. He messages me at least once a week and has gotten himself blocked twice for it and only get unblocked when he pays a fee, complete with soppy message attached ::)
Another client recently had a full on meltdown because despite putting on my best efforts I didn't magically make myself *genuinely* cum after 2mins and he was crying because he wanted me to *actually* like him. Hard to like someone who's crying 10mins into a booking and hyper analysing everything you do...can't actually pay me to genuinely like you I'm afraid buddy...
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A lot of guys think being hung is all that it takes to be good at sex. My friends and people at my day job tell me about how they have sex and I feel sorry for the girls they climbed onto.
So any girls feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but it's always been my understanding that women actually have to be turned on psychologically to enjoy sex. Guys are different, sex feels good without foreplay or being turned on, arousal happens on its own, so often it's to a fault, actually.
I swear if I was a woman I'd be a lesbian, a lot of guys are selfish and overly confident partners
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Yes, you're wrong. Women (and the people you're referring to are adult women, not 'girls') are - difficult though it may be for you to get your head round - all different and each individual will have their own feelings and preferences when it comes to sex or anything else - just like men, in fact. Making simplistic, patronising generalisations about them based on nothing other than their gender serves no purpose other than making you look a bit stupid.
Then again, if you think you'd just decide to be a lesbian apropos of nothing in particular other than what you think all men (presumably including you) are like then it's the company you keep that's likely the problem and your post seems to back this up.
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A lot of guys think being hung is all that it takes to be good at sex. My friends and people at my day job tell me about how they have sex and I feel sorry for the girls they climbed onto.
So any girls feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but it's always been my understanding that women actually have to be turned on psychologically to enjoy sex. Guys are different, sex feels good without foreplay or being turned on, arousal happens on its own, so often it's to a fault, actually.
I swear if I was a woman I'd be a lesbian, a lot of guys are selfish and overly confident partners
I think that porn and stereotypes can lead to many men feeling inadequate, just as some women feel they are abnormal if they don't have the same shaped bodyparts depicted in the media.
It's a body image thing, and yes it does tend to fit into certain categories for each gender and having studied the evidence this is just about the only area (along with certain eating disorders) in which I will make [careful] sweeping gender generalisations - only because the evidence is overwhelming.
Outside of this members of both genders vary massively. I know that from assumptions that are made about my pleasure and wants!
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<channeling Robin Williams>
I love the smell of mansplaining in the morning!
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So any girls feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but it's always been my understanding that women actually have to be turned on psychologically to enjoy sex. Guys are different, sex feels good without foreplay or being turned on, arousal happens on its own, so often it's to a fault, actually.
Are you a newbie? Maybe, your take is mostly in dating world, not escorting, in my own view.