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LauraLee

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Re: Boyfriend Trouble
« Reply #15 on: 19 September 2009, 05:37:07 pm »

I think you've just answered your own question there.  :)

He's not going to change, you know that. Do you really want to be in the same place 12 months from now ?

If he was working his backside off to put food on the table I would enter into a conversation with him about
the possibility of stopping work, but he's pissing it all up against a wall. Therefore, he has absolutely no
right to tell you what you can and can't do.

Sorry to be so harsh but he needs to be kicked out.

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That's how I feel, he has no right to tell me what I can/can't do.

That wouldn't even be so bad but the emotional blackmail is the killer - "I can't bear another man touching you", "This is my fault, if I'd been doing my job properly you wouldn't have to do this"... etc etc.

How do I argue against that when he's twisting the truth, little bit of truth, lot of emotional blackmail. Feel I can't win.

The best abusers will always twist the situation around so in the end you actually feel sorry for them, I know,
I've been there.   ;)

If you want to be clever about it, do a little twisting yourself and tell him you want a break from the relationship,
but that it's nothing to do with him, it's your stuff you need to work through.

The classic line "It's not you, it's me ", can actually be quite effective methinks.

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Re: Boyfriend Trouble
« Reply #16 on: 19 September 2009, 06:12:26 pm »
I like it! I like it a lot! Very smart girl  :)
xoxo ~ lila ~ xoxo

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Re: Boyfriend Trouble
« Reply #17 on: 19 September 2009, 09:27:51 pm »
Ditto LauraLee...been there, done that, got the t-shirt!  There's only so long one can entertain a person who transmits only (try 12 years!!)...ring a bell?  It never changes, really!!  I seem to attract these characters on a personal level but it is so empowering to be on your own, making it, not answering to someone who does nothing but take take take

I really hope you can get strong and work through it, you seem to be almost there.  Best of luck xx

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« Reply #18 on: 20 September 2009, 03:56:14 am »
Whatever you make,maybe you could put ?10 or ?20 aside per week for the kids chritsmas presents? Its not a disaster yet as its only September. But its beginning to sound like you need some time to yourself, I realise its a very difficult time for you.
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« Reply #19 on: 20 September 2009, 07:21:30 am »
Whatever you make,maybe you could put ?10 or ?20 aside per week for the kids chritsmas presents? Its not a disaster yet as its only September.

I'm sorry but why? They're not her kids. If he's stupid enough and irresponsible enough to promise gifts that are worth about a grand to his kids, then that's his problem, his responsibility. Maybe he needs to see the reality of him disappointing his own children for Christmas, simply because he can't keep a promise he made to them. Or otherwise go ask the ex-wife. He may have custody but she's still their mother.

I'd get the kids something sure. But not the gifts he promised. This occupation is mecurial. It's up and down like a tart's knickers. Worry about yourself first.

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« Reply #20 on: 20 September 2009, 11:14:39 am »

The classic line "It's not you, it's me ", can actually be quite effective methinks.

Or in this case 'It's not.... no wait, actually it's YOU not me. Bye bye now!

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Re: Boyfriend Trouble
« Reply #21 on: 20 September 2009, 01:17:12 pm »
I'd tell him if he stopped smoking the ?160 dope then by christmas he'd be able to spend a fortune on his kids and you babe.  Sometimes you got to think of yourself.

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« Reply #22 on: 20 September 2009, 04:56:47 pm »
You are right Brandy, I dont know this ladies situation. I worked on the assumption that after several years she may have forged a good relationship with his children. Also I left a long term relationship myself a few years ago. I know its very difficult, I was elated when I finally got shut of him and was able to begin again. I suspect the lady is still at the "tea and sympathy" stage. Cant wait for the "knee him in the b*****ks and chuck him out" stage!
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« Reply #23 on: 20 September 2009, 07:07:40 pm »
You are right Brandy, I dont know this ladies situation. I worked on the assumption that after several years she may have forged a good relationship with his children.

I do agree with you, but ultimately, they're his kids, not hers.

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« Reply #24 on: 21 September 2009, 12:56:28 pm »
I think this is a big part of my problem - the kids. I have got a good relationship with all 3 of them and it really annoys me when he promises them something then doesn't come up with it. This quote from the eldest, who'll be 15 in Jan, 6 months ago when we went out for lunch just about sums it up:

"Can I tell you something and you won't tell Dad?"
"Yes, you know you can talk to me."
"I love Dad, but I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth anymore. He's made so many promises and he almost always lets us down."

Sometimes I think she's got more sense in her little finger than I have in my whole body! I mean how do you argue ith that, from a 14 year old when you KNOW she's right?? And why can't I get my head round it?
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« Reply #25 on: 21 September 2009, 02:27:03 pm »
Well the fact that you are questioning his behaviour and considering your options is a step forward. If you want to get something for the children yourself at christmas that may be an idea, Im not suggesting you should need to get them anything very expensive. But if you do be careful because we all tend to get a bit sentimental around that time of year and you might let your guard down as regards him.
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Re: Boyfriend Trouble
« Reply #26 on: 22 September 2009, 10:22:18 am »
You do not argue against it because you can not argue against a person that twists the truth, uses words cleverly to make you feel guilty/sorry for them.
You simply leave.

It is a form of controlling. After 7 years, he knows you and knows how to use conversation to get at you and it absolutely is controlling you. This row over escorting is because possibly(?) your not listening to him and doing what he wants - stopping. So he uses emotionally charged sentences to make you do exactly what he wants. It's a common way to control a person and is done so subtly sometimes and over such a prolonged period of time, you fail to notice what is really going on.
You can not argue against it.
I would not waste your time thinking 'I shall give him a couple of weeks more' It's pointless.

The hardest thing you will do is break free and walk away. It will test your emotions and your strength of will enormously but once you have had a few weeks away from him and can see the freedom you get, not freedom to go here or there, just the freedom you get from being a little more at peace with yourself, you will wonder why you stayed so long and you will get mad at him and mad at yourself for all that wasted time and sorrow.

Why can you not keep in touch with the children? Do you get along with their mother? If so, have a chat with her, if she is alone with 3 children and you and she get along, perhaps she will be happy to have another person that can take the kids now and again?
If you do not get along with her then remaining with this man as you like his children is silly. They are not your children and you have a responsibility to live the life you want and a right to live a happy life - leave.

Of course, all the advice in the world is useless unless you really, really want to change your life. Until you get to the point where you absolutely can not stomach anymore, nothing will change and you will remain with him and in this situation indefinitely.

He is thinking of himself.
Not you.
Not his children.
160.00 on dope a week? I guess your paying for that? Income support will only pay for him. As the kids do not live with him, it will not pay for them and income support for a single man is no where near 160.00 a week.
So, you lay on your back to pay for your man's drug habit? If you do not, how does he pay for it? Do you pay the bills you guys have? If so then you are supporting his drug habit through laying on your back.  Get out now.

I have sympathy for you but as there are no children between you and him, there is nothing worth fighting for. Not a good enough reason to stay and try to work it all out. Love is not always enough.
You are earning money. You can support yourself so go and live a life, see what else thee is out there for you before you wake up aged 40+ and it's all gone on a looser smoking dope.
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Re: Boyfriend Trouble
« Reply #27 on: 24 September 2009, 12:16:28 am »
How's things going Lila?

Just to let you know I'm thinking of you hunni. It can be hard to finally break up with someone but when you do you finally start living for yourself again.

Good Luck with whatever you decide.

Love Alex x

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« Reply #28 on: 24 September 2009, 05:58:09 am »
I see it all the time, so many women staying in the worst possible relationships, because they are afraid to be alone. It is a hold out from traditionally being raised to be a nice girl, grow up and get married, forget our own needs, and stand by your man. What total and utter BS. Girl, this man is a leech, plain and simple. He has a good thing going, and you are it. LEAVE, sooner rather than later.
It will hurt now, but you will get over it and move one to live a better life.

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« Reply #29 on: 24 September 2009, 09:03:12 am »
Haven't got a lot to add,just wanted to echo what everyone else on here is saying.

This man isn't good for you,he is controlling and clearly only cares about his own needs. Like Violette says we are raised as women to believe that our mans needs are more important than our own abd we should put our own wants aside in order to keep him happy. Bollocks! if a relationship doesn't make you basically feel happy and secure,if you cant look at your partner and know that you can trust them to do the right thing by you then they are basically not worth having.

I spent 4 years in a controlling relationship with a man 16 years older than me. Every week there were drama,tears and misery. I used to look in the mirror at myself and wonder what was wrong with me that meant i couldn't get him to love me as much as i loved him. Then one awful night we had a blazing row and i cried myself to sleep,woke up puffy eyed and distraught at 5.30am to see him sleeping like a baby without a stain on his conscience. At that moment i saw very clearly that if i stayed with him this was what the rest of my life would be like,so i got up and left him and never went back.

Sorry its a rambling story but my point is that no matter how much you love someone you CAN be strong enough to leave them. I loved my ex very very deeply but i left because i knew that i had to in order to save my own sanity.

Then i spent 3 years thinking i would never meet anyone,be on my own forever etc. Then went out one night,met my fiance and that was that. Yes our relationship isn't perfect and this line of work puts strain on it. But he is a lovely,kind,honest,funny person, my best friend (and gorgeous to boot) I couldn't imagine my life without him. I realise now that the love i had for my ex was based on all the wrong things and its only now that i appreciate what loving someone really means.

So basically what i guess I'm trying to say is that there is something better out there for you Hun,you just have to be brave enough to go out and get it. Its a dreadful cliche but we only have one life and Way waste it on someone who doesn't even care about your happiness?