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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: Hunixoxoxo on 02 August 2020, 12:14:33 pm
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Basically I borrowed money from a client. It’s an usual occurrence in which I borrow money from him twice a month and give it back to him at bookings once I’ve made it back up. I have debts I need to pay off so it’s a secure way for me to get by.
The guy is a lovely regular but he turned sour yesterday when I said I could t take his booking, I was due him money yesterday. And he started to get angry with me and tell me I should be taking the money to him and not the other way around.
I told him he is getting aggressive and he needs to calm down but he thinks he is in the right.
Shows regulars can turn sour quick as anything.
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I had saving but used them up over the cold period and had to help others out with money. So I’m in a catch 22.
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Can you not pay him back with making a booking?
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Can you not pay him back with making a booking?
He was meant to be coming round to mine last night but I got an offer of a two hour booking instead of his one hour booking, so I took that instead. I just told him that my sister was coming round.
He then got angry with me and said if I borrow money from him maybe I should be taking it to his house and not him having to come to mine for a booking to get his money back.
I told him he is being aggressive by saying this but he says that he is right in his thinking.
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He was meant to be coming round to mine last night but I got an offer of a two hour booking instead of his one hour booking, so I took that instead. I just told him that my sister was coming round.
He then got angry with me and said if I borrow money from him maybe I should be taking it to his house and not him having to come to mine for a booking to get his money back.
I told him he is being aggressive by saying this but he says that he is right in his thinking.
So you cancelled his booking in favour of a 2 hour with someone else is that right?
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So you cancelled his booking in favour of a 2 hour with someone else is that right?
Yes. Is worth more money for me. Less work, the regular guy fucks the full hour and this older guy is more relaxed booking. So win win for me.
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Pay him back with the money from other booking. Then block him maybe.
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Pay him back with the money from other booking. Then block him maybe.
I don’t want to block him as I want to use him for his money next month and the month after that till I’ve cleared the debt I got myself into.
I just want to punish him for thinking he is right.
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You don't need him. Maybe focus on getting new clients instead
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You don't need him. Maybe focus on getting new clients instead
I’ve asked other clients for money before but they don’t agree to give me. This is why I kind of need to keep him on side.
Do you have a way of getting extra money out of clients or who is likely to give you it?
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No I only expect money for services I provide otherwise it gets too complicated. You will get people angry if they feel you're using them. Are you in debt because it's slow right now? I had to stop any luxuries and focus on paying my bills.
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No I only expect money for services I provide otherwise it gets too complicated. You will get people angry if they feel you're using them. Are you in debt because it's slow right now? I had to stop any luxuries and focus on paying my bills.
I want to use men. They are only worth the money they have and that’s it.
Yes I spent a lot on clothes, shoes etc and I want to get my boobs bigger.
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I’ve asked other clients for money before but they don’t agree to give me. This is why I kind of need to keep him on side.
Do you have a way of getting extra money out of clients or who is likely to give you it?
Wow! quite shocking.
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Wow! quite shocking.
I know you think they would give money and trust us.
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I know you think they would give money and trust us.
Why? I don't give my hairdresser money for no reason, I pay him to do my hair and if he can't organise his personal finances properly that's nothing to do with me or any of his other customers. If I want more money, I work more - that's how it happens.
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I know you think they would give money and trust us.
I think you never understood what i meant by my post. I don't think they should just hand us over money and lend us money because you ask. I am just used to getting money from them from the service i provide and only that.
Sounds like you should try those sugar daddy sites and see if you can get what you need from those because i think you have paid sex services a little wrong of what the deal is with how this is supposed to work.
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I want to use men. They are only worth the money they have and that’s it.
Yes I spent a lot on clothes, shoes etc and I want to get my boobs bigger.
You are funny though. Your above post did make me laugh saying they are only worth the money they have. Least your being honest how you see them. Lol
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This client has paid up in advance, trusted you then you renegade on his booking for a longer booking.
This is not fair, and no clients are not there to borrow money from.
Replacing with a larger booking puts your agreement with him at risk, so the two hour is worth loss of his pre-payment?
If I take deposit or payment in advance I don't class it as mine until the booking has happened, otherwise I am in debt to that person - also the booking is set in stone.
Clients are not loaning machines.
Just read the OP again.
Do you mean an installment was due, which you pay back from cash you have earned from other bookings, during your booking with him - so now he wants the installment you would have paid in cash in the booking?
Is that how it works?
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This client has paid up in advance, trusted you then you renegade on his booking for a longer booking.
This is not fair, and no clients are not there to borrow money from.
Replacing with a larger booking puts your agreement with him at risk, so the two hour is worth loss of his pre-payment?
If I take deposit or payment in advance I don't class it as mine until the booking has happened, otherwise I am in debt to that person - also the booking is set in stone.
Clients are not loaning machines.
Just read the OP again.
Do you mean an installment was due, which you pay back from cash you have earned from other bookings, during your booking with him - so now he wants the installment you would have paid in cash in the booking?
Is that how it works?
Basically I borrow from 2 x a month a set amount of money each time. He sends to me via bank transfer. Then when he books me he pays my hourly rate. Then once clear of that I give him the money I borrowed from him back to him.
Yes men only want to fuck use and we should use them for their money.
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Yes men only want to fuck use and we should use them for their money.
You're offering a service, like any service (hairdresser, plumber etc..) you get paid for it. Do you feel "used"? You need to either raise your rates or find another line of work where you might feel "less used". If you've felt used by men in the past (hence the tone of underlying anger towards men in your post) I would reccomend getting some therapy. Making your clients pay for whatever wrong doings you were subjected in the past is unfair for them, plus it brings all sorts of unnecessary drama to the job. Keeping things professional is the secret to surviving and staying sane in the sex industry (or any other).
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what shocks me more is that you don’t seem to think you are at fault here
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I think you never understood what i meant by my post. I don't think they should just hand us over money and lend us money because you ask. I am just used to getting money from them from the service i provide and only that.
Sounds like you should try those sugar daddy sites and see if you can get what you need from those because i think you have paid sex services a little wrong of what the deal is with how this is supposed to work.
+1
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what shocks me more is that you don’t seem to think you are at fault here
The client for me is at fault. He shouldn’t be aggressive or asking me to come to his with the money. It’s disrespectful and not on for me.
I told him to come another time for booking and to collect his money.
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The client for me is at fault. He shouldn’t be aggressive or asking me to come to his with the money. It’s disrespectful and not on for me.
I told him to come another time for booking and to collect his money.
No you promised him the money that day, YOU are at fault
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This thread has to be a joke, surely? Either that or there is far more going on than is being said.
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Sorry OP, but if you're not a troll you're an entitled moron.
Nothing is free in life. Cut your clothes to fit your cloth.
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The client hasn't given you the money out of the goodness of his heart, he has given it on the basis that he would then have an appointment on the day and time in question (like if I paid for a hotel room in advance I would expect to turn up and be given a room. Not be told "Oh sorry we have gave the room away. Oh and we are keeping the money". I mean sorry but you seriously need to grow the hell up, no one owes you a damn thing, they most definitely don't owe you expensive clothes and shoes or a pair of fake boobs. Seriously there's ladies worrying about whether they and their family will be able to afford basic groceries or to keep a roof over their heads and your bothered about designer gear? Seriously need to get your priorities straight.
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Sorry OP, but if you're not a troll you're an entitled moron.
Seriously I thought I was on Reddit for a moment
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Lending money from clients is blurring the lines and far more hassle than it is worth. I would starve before I had a client think he had something over me.
If you can afford to pay him back every 2 weeks then why not throw a extra few hours in and be in front 2 weeks?
Martin Lewis has lots of advice on budgeting on his website. Maybe knock the new tits on the head for a bit until you can afford your month to month bills, it’ll save you a headache.
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I want to use men. They are only worth the money they have and that’s it.
Yes I spent a lot on clothes, shoes etc and I want to get my boobs bigger.
You’re hilarious & wrong, plain & simple. You know you are bc you keep defending what you’re saying.
This job is hard enough without you doing this sort of thing, & making it 3x more difficult for the rest of us who see the clients & get the $$ when they arrive, & give them services.
You’re not going to last long with those (lack of) customer service skills.
*Dismissive snorts*
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I'm sorry but I cannot believe I am fucking reading this, jesus christ it's no wonder some of us get a bad name.
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you are in the wrong lady not him... jeezus!
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Blimey!
All the more work for the ladies who are running legitimate escorting businesses.
I don't know who is more stupid. You for using clients as a bank or them for lending you money.
You'll get no sympathy here.
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Personally, I think you are in the wrong for not seeing him last night and taking a longer booking. After all he is willingly giving you money and your treating him like that. No wonder he is angry. Id work more and pay him back but don't borrow from him again. Take it as a lesson.
That's why I never borrow or ask money from a client it can get messy. Xx
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So you're able to borrow money from him reliably and regularly; he is still expected to pay your rates in full and he doesn't charge interest. That's quite a sweet deal you've got, so if you wan't to continue with it yes you should prioritize his bookings over others and not make him feel like a mug!
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I want to use men. They are only worth the money they have and that’s it.
Yes I spent a lot on clothes, shoes etc and I want to get my boobs bigger.
Is this a serious post?
If your focus is solely on using people, that will have negative reactions later when they return in the same role you defined.
Long term client relationships are 100% of my professional success and if I treated any client that way, let alone a regular I wouldn't find this career rewarding.
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So you're able to borrow money from him reliably and regularly; he is still expected to pay your rates in full and he doesn't charge interest. That's quite a sweet deal you've got, so if you wan't to continue with it yes you should prioritize his bookings over others and not make him feel like a mug!
Basically yes. You have that right. But I had the chance to make more on a longer booking and fobbed him off but he decided he wasn’t happy with my story and become angry with the situation. I’m not sure why as he is still going to get his money and booking albeit at a later date.
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Is this a serious post?
If your focus is solely on using people, that will have negative reactions later when they return in the same role you defined.
Long term client relationships are 100% of my professional success and if I treated any client that way, let alone a regular I wouldn't find this career rewarding.
Yes. Personally for me I’m a nice looking girl so if I wanted sex I could just use tinder or go to a club and pick any man I wanted.
But I want there money and I wouldn’t sleep with any of them in real life anyway if it wasn’t for the money.
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Yes. Personally for me I’m a nice looking girl so if I wanted sex I could just use tinder or go to a club and pick any man I wanted.
But I want there money and I wouldn’t sleep with any of them in real life anyway if it wasn’t for the money.
Your attitude stinks. For a start you shouldn’t be borrowing money off clients in general where’s your pride I’d be ashamed to ask a client that. As he was kind enough to go into this agreement with you then you should show some fucking gratitude and pay him what he’s owed when you say you’re going to pay it. Not when it’s convenient for you like wtf. I’d not see you again if I was him.
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Yes. Personally for me I’m a nice looking girl so if I wanted sex I could just use tinder or go to a club and pick any man I wanted.
But I want there money and I wouldn’t sleep with any of them in real life anyway if it wasn’t for the money.
Huni have you not tried any of these sugar daddy sites they might be more up your street?
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Basically yes. You have that right. But I had the chance to make more on a longer booking and fobbed him off but he decided he wasn’t happy with my story and become angry with the situation. I’m not sure why as he is still going to get his money and booking albeit at a later date.
Rule number one: nothing is for free. If he's borrowing you money at no fee he expects something in exchange, you're not doing it so he gets angry. It's a common reaction in people when they do you a favour. Also I'm not sure if the sugar daddy thing would work because those guys are even MORE needy and demanding than your normal punter and will give you money in order to control you so you can be at their whim. If you have issues with being at someones whim whenever they please (because you're on his pay roll) I'm not sure the sugar daddy thing would work for you.
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Rule number one: nothing is for free. If he's borrowing you money at no fee he expects something in exchange, you're not doing it so he gets angry. It's a common reaction in people. Also I'm not sure if the sugar daddy thing would work because those guys are even MORE needy and demanding than your normal punter and will give you money in order to control you so you can be at their whim. If you have problems with being at someones whim whenever they please (because he's paying you) I'm not sure the sugar daddy thing would work for you.
At the start he agreed to borrow me money with nothing required for it. So that’s what we agreed and I didn’t agree to prioritise his bookings either.
I think he is just angry that he didn’t get a fuck that night. Most likely true.
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At the start he agreed to borrow me money with nothing required for it. So that’s what we agreed and I didn’t agree to prioritise his bookings either.
I think he is just angry that he didn’t get a fuck that night. Most likely true.
Personally, I hope he wakes up and never gives you another penny. I think you have some harsh lessons coming your way.
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At the start he agreed to borrow me money with nothing required for it. So that’s what we agreed and I didn’t agree to prioritise his bookings either.
I think he is just angry that he didn’t get a fuck that night. Most likely true.
He loans you money, then you mess him around.
Fuck or no fuck, still huge amount of disrespect and unacceptable.
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We’re clearly talking to a brick🧱wall here, everyone.
HuniBooBoo or whatever your name is, you’re not going to get what you want here, which is us agreeing that you are correct in doing what you did.
You handled the interaction poorly, the guy’s justifiably pissed off now & you don’t care. Fine🤷🏼♀️.
Stop trying to make us see it your way, bc it’s not going to happen.
Normally I’d never say this, but I feel pretty secure in saying absolutely none of us on this site will agree with you.
If I screw up something, I’ll admit I’m wrong, Jesus. Have enough integrity ~ sorry, bad phrasing, to do that here🙄.
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she is seriously in the wrong job!
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I want to use men. They are only worth the money they have and that’s it.
Yes I spent a lot on clothes, shoes etc and I want to get my boobs bigger.
Maybe you should consider being dominatrix/findom. Lol. Because soon you will be blacklisted.
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Maybe you should consider being dominatrix/findom. Lol. Because soon you will be blacklisted.
"Blacklisted" by whom??
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"Blacklisted" by whom??
By clients. Maybe it's first time it's happening but it's not the last one. She will be soon out of clients because of this.
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It is so much harder for honest sex workers to get new reliable clients when this type of stuff happens...
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It is so much harder for honest sex workers to get new reliable clients when this type of stuff happens...
There is good and bad on both sides. I have Come across many sex workers that i have known of who rip off clients, borrow and steal from them and con them with sob stories even knew of one that conned over 12k out of this old guy regular i had..it was very bad and he was so gullible and got too involved with some workers and there problems, But equally there is plenty of bad clients out there who abuse us, take advantage and steal money. People are people you get bad sex workers and bad clients.
The sad thing about this industry for me is the amount of advantage taking and lack of respect that some people have for us considering the very hard difficult job we do that most of the public would not do.