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General Category => Blather and Babble => Topic started by: AngelaManchester on 06 September 2011, 10:05:21 am
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I've just cancelled a booking for tomorrow because the guy was being a pain in the arse, requesting all sorts of things which I don't do in bookings of less than an hour and which is clearly stated on my site.
He has positive feedback on AW so I was just reading it out of curiosity, and it transpires he's seen a lady working very close to me who is offering bareback for ?50! :o I've seen bareback offered loads of times before on AW, but never for such little money. Not that the money matters - I know most of us wouldn't do it for any amount - but it just shocks me.
Anyway, I obviously had a lucky escape.
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I like AW as you can see if the potential client has feedback from escorts
and if those escorts offer bareback.
Then I just block said potential client. Easy!
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Thats just shocking! Some women (and men) have no self-respect. You did have a lucky escape there deffo!
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What difference does it make, assuming that you use condoms? I assume that every client who comes through the door has unprotected sex with somebody because I have no way of knowing otherwise, and this is one of the reasons I don't offer any unprotected services. Does this mean ladies are assuming that all punters who only have feedback from ladies who puff and bluster about how they'd never ever do such a thing (which has been known to be bollocks) ever never have or have had unprotected sex? What about with civvy women (and men)?
I must admit I can never see the point of this reaction - everybody has a right to select their clients however they want and which ever way makes them feel better, but the idea that a Punter 1 who has feedback from Bareback Barbie is automatically going to be a bad option compared with Punter 2 who just rings and books and could well have shagged half the town, paid or otherwise, is a real fallacy and just promotes a completely false sense of security. With this in mind, I just assume all of them are riddled ;D.
As for having no self-respect, some people offer unprotected services of varying kinds because they enjoy them and have made an informed choice to do so; this is not illegal and nobody forces anybody else to either partake or do likewise. Just because we might not choose to do the same does not mean anybody has the right to tell other adults what they can and can't do with their own bodies, and we don't have any right to judge them either. There are plenty out there who think we're all filthy scum without us looking down our noses at each other.
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I agree with Amy, there is no point in assuming that just because someone has not had feedback from a girl offering bareback that he has not visited one.
You can only leave feedback if you and the client both use the AW booking system, most of my clients just phone so I have no idea who they have seen.
I treat them all like they have had bareback sex and are therefore riddled with stds ;D.
And just because he may have visited someone who offers bareback sex, it might just be that he didn't indulge. (In a very rose tinted glasses world).
As long as the client practises safe sex with me I really don't care what he does with others.
Jas x
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As long as the client practises safe sex with me I really don't care what he does with others.
Yep!
R xx
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What difference does it make, assuming that you use condoms?
Personally I'd worry that if a client was in the habit of BB with other escorts that he might turn around during a booking and hassle me for BB, or 'accidentally' let the condom slip off, or something of the sort...
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That's my fear, as well...
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Personally I'd worry that if a client was in the habit of BB with other escorts that he might turn around during a booking and hassle me for BB, or 'accidentally' let the condom slip off, or something of the sort...
The problem with that is that you have no possible way of knowing whether the bloke is in the habit of BB with other prossies, or anybody else. And just because he is or isn't doesn't make him any more or less likely to interfere with a condom - there's plenty who will try that one, and it's more than likely going to be the ones who pick ladies who don't offer unprotected sex as they're more likely to think they won't catch anything. The people who want BB without the hassle will just book ladies who offer it; it's the nasty ones who want to try and get away with something that isn't on the menu we have to watch for all the time.
I've been pestered for BB a handful of times, not many and it's just something we occasionally have to deal with - the most persistent bloke I remember did book me through AW and there was no clue in either his feedbacks or emails that he was going to try this. Being vigilant about condoms is part of the job (and on the flip side I've had clients who tried to insist on wearing two at once, and the tiresome explaining of why this was a bad idea was even more annoying than Mr of-course-I'm-clean-I'm-married).
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I agree with Amy I don't block guys who have seen bb girls but I do block them if they enquire about bb on the phone.......
I once had a guy try and convince me to see him for a bb session, I sad why don't you book a bb girl and he said I don't know where theyve been pmsl I said funny that cause I was thinking the same about you!!!!
"but I'm clean promise!" doesn't really cut it with me lol
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No, I didn't know about the barebacking when I cancelled on him (he was just being an arse). I'd already told him I wasn't seeing him anymore when I read about the bareback girl - I was just shocked at her price.
I know we can never know our clients' sexual histories, irrespective of their feedback on AW or anywhere else - it is for this reason that I'm forever changing my mind about offering OWO :-\
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[...] clients who tried to insist on wearing two at once [...]
[...] Mr of-course-I'm-clean-I'm-married [...]
This is like... a grand spectrum of idiocy. ;D Not sure which end's worse!
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and on the flip side I've had clients who tried to insist on wearing two at once
Tell me this isn't true! :o
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and on the flip side I've had clients who tried to insist on wearing two at once
Tell me this isn't true! :o
Unfortunately it is - I've actually had it happen twice, but the one I remember was an otherwise perfectly sensible gentleman from Boston who I did a London overnight with. It was tedious, to say the least, but I still couldn't believe it (and I thought he was joking to start with, which went down well - he also tried to insist on his own condoms and pulled a face when that wasn't riding too ::)).
It does make we wonder why he would book me if he actually believed I was so virulent with the galloping pox that one condom wouldn't be enough.
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In my personal life, many years ago, a sexual partner insisted on using 2 extra thick condoms at the same time during our 20 mins bonking. He had to keep stopping to put new ones on cos the top condom kept splitting. Great.
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Made in error, sorry!
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The only time I did bare back, I didn't charge.
6 months into my decision to be a WG, so still really naive.
When the guy booked me, he didn't indicate he wanted b.b.
I became suspicious when he stood up afterwards, holding the towel to cover himself. Yup, no condom on his c**k...
When I began to question him about it, he said it must have come off inside me, I knew it hadn't...
I found it on the pillow.
His response to that was 'must've fallen off while we were rolling around'(on the pillow, yeh right!)
I reacted by locking him in the house that I was working in (I have since become independent) and demanding I.D., which, of course he wouldn't provide. He was fit and muscular, so it dawned on me he could hurt me, so I let him go.
I did learn to be much more vigilant.
As I said, he made no mention of bare back when making the booking. (and I wouldn't have seen him if he had)
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The only time I did bare back, I didn't charge.
6 months into my decision to be a WG, so still really naive.
When the guy booked me, he didn't indicate he wanted b.b.
I became suspicious when he stood up afterwards, holding the towel to cover himself, so I immedietly became suspicious. Yup, no condom on his c**k...
When I began to question him about it, he said it must have come off inside me, I knew it hadn't...
I found it on the pillow.
His response to that was 'must've fallen off while we were rolling around'(on the pillow, yeh right!)
I reacted by locking him in the house that I was working in (I have since become independent) and demanding I.D., which, of course he wouldn't provide. He was fit and muscular, so it dawned on me he could hurt me, so I let him go.
I did learn to be much more vigilant.
As I said, he made no mention of bare back when making the booking.
Hopefully all is/was ok and just a nasty scare, I had one ar*e that came to see me ( a regular) and when he arrived was acting a bit odd. Unfriendly and abrupt. Once in the bedroom he proceeded to pull down his trousers and said what do you think of that. Hmmmmm. I knew it wasn't in a sexual way but I wasn't sure what I was looking for or at. He said its a bit red and sore and you have passed something on to me. I was shocked, hurt and livid.
He then poked at my bits to see if I was red / sore / riddled with something resembling giant beetles :-\
(why I let him do this I have no idea) Anyway upshot was I went straight to the clinic, waited 4 hours to be seen and result was .... clear. (2 weeks of stress though) Also he kept texting me for results and in the end I told him to f**K off as my husbands dad was in a coma and at the end of his life (he died the day after I got my results) and this REALLY wasn't appropriate and WHEN I got the result I would let him know. I actually found out on day 10 but waited the full 2 weeks to tell him.
Apparently he went private, cost I think ?250.00 or something, all came back clear. I wouldn't see him again for I think it was 9 months, and that was only because I'd had a bad week and needed the cash. He was full of apologies and so on. Even now I only see him if I need the money (desperately)
Edited to fix quote; if I have edited incorrectly, please PM me or re-edit the post. :)
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That last post reminds me of a booking I had a few months ago.
Nice young guy-unhappily married-only his 2nd ever escort booking.
He had quite a lot to drink during the 90 minutes I was there. At the end, he asked if he could cum over my breasts and he rubbed at them with his cock as he did. Before I left his Hotel he asked if I could take a look at his cock. It was all red and marked. He was slurring and asking if I was clean etc. As we had used condoms for the full sex, I can only assume he thought my mouth or my skin was infected- ok, I can see his concern, but it isn't nice to be considered riddled with disease. The booking ended on a sour note as I stalked off in a huff but he later texted to apologise.
It was only when I got home and unpacked my bag that I remembered I had been wearing a whale-net cat-suit and the red marks were obviously friction burns .. ::)
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It's strange, I see on adultwork some women who offer bareback sex and bareback anal sex as long. Some say it's ok for the guy to come inside them, others say "pull out first."
So they won't be getting pregnant, but they could easily catch something surely.
I offer OWO but only at my own discretion.
I am very cautious.
So I'm not sure how some women can be so cavalier
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I stopped seeing a guy who saw girls that do bare back, mainly for this reason but because he was a twit too. He used to see 2 or 3 women every week & expected to do oral on me. He showed me a supposed text from his sexual health clinic but when I spoke to them about it, they said it was fake because there weren't offering results by texts at that time....clients just can't be trusted! Anyone who does bareback without knowing that the other person is tested is playing Russian Roulette!!
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It's strange, I see on adultwork some women who offer bareback sex and bareback anal sex as long. Some say it's ok for the guy to come inside them, others say "pull out first."
So they won't be getting pregnant, but they could easily catch something surely.
I offer OWO but only at my own discretion.
I am very cautious.
So I'm not sure how some women can be so cavalier
I agree Jenny, although we can only be responsible for our own safety the idea of these women playing russian roulette with their sexual health bothers me.
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Im too scared to go about it like that.
Bareback sex is one of the big things i miss about having a boyfriend, its really nice.
I only do it with just one regular client at a time, under very strict terms & conditions: basically we goto the GUM clinic together first time one-off, i observe that he is wealthy, should visit me regularly, and i charge double my hourly rate except for overnights.
Its something i personally enjoy a lot, i love the feeling of a man cumming inside me. I just try to minimise the risk as much as possible, without not doing it at all.
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I agree with Loulou above- it's kind of funny but-no matter how intimate a booking may be; dfk, oral, etc- as long as there is a rubber on his willie if he is anywhere near my ladybits-I can shrug it off..
But cumming inside of me?? A Client?? Urgh-I would need some SERIOUS counselling afterwards methinks :-\
I'm sorry Lou19, I don't wish to be disrespectful to your own personal choices, but to consider the fact that he is wealthy and only cums inside of prostitutes one at a time ( which in the unlikely event he is telling the truth about this could still have amounted to a HUGE amount of whores in his punting career )
oh - and he pays you ONLY double your hourly rate - but still gets to bareback you all night for your usual overnight fee ? ??? ( or did I read that wrong-do you charge more for this? )
I couldn't believe I was reading your penultimate paragraph sweetie ..
Ok, lecture over with- I suppose no two girls work alike and no two punters are the same either at the end of our day/night... :-*
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I know all that and was expeting those exact type of responses.
We are totally honest and open with each other about literally everything, i can tell he tells me the truth. Ive seen it in his eyes and the way he says it that he is far too scared to do it with anyone else. He only sleeps me and his wife who only wants sex every so many weeks which is why he comes to me as i make him feel young again and no one else will do BB, he looks ok for his age he's 52 and visits me every few days and an overnight every month. Apparantly she knows about me and doesnt mind, she handles all their finances so she knows whats going on except about the BB part.
My hourly rate is ?150, he gives me ?300, or ?1000 for an overnight, on average i make probably ?2.5k per month from him alone, financially i dont need to see any other clients or dance as a stripper but i do anyway as i love flirting, lots of sex and money.
I can usually tell when he's slept with his wife as he doesnt visit me for nearly 2 weeks, he just cant physically manage more sex to be seeing any other women.
Im on the pill but if i do get pregnant i'll have a nice percentage amount of his income from the CSA, thats the main reason i only do BB with a wealthy client. Ive thought everything through and through i plan things so i'll never worry financially in my life.
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Lou19 - just as long as you know that even ok-looking and attractive people can be HIV+, eh? Not being snarky, I can see you approach your job quite differently to me and your choices are none of my business. But mentioning the guy's appearance when justifying unprotected sex with a stranger sounds not good!
To be honest, despite the title of this thread, most of the bareback I've actually heard about happening (if third-hand discussions are more believable than random AW profiles?) happens in (excuse me while I go hahahaha) "high class arrangements". Again, that sounds way more snarky than I mean it, I just honestly think it's funny-in-an-OMG-way. Like, "OMG! People can be bonkers, eh?" I don't personally get it in this situation but it is not surprising that large amounts of money help people to forget their worries, overlook their concerns and do things they wouldn't do with a "common" person. Money motivates people and makes them feel safe, and I'm no different there - I'm just way too much of a scaredy-cat to take more risks than this job already comes parceled with.
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Ive been in far more dangerous situations than this job, because ive been a thrill seeker. I was probably at my most dangerous when i was 15-17 when i used to go around having BB sex with about half of the guys, and out with boyracers at cruises and races around the country. Speeding like 120-150mph down main roads through town at night in big suped up cars, seen a few extreme near misses that really scared me, a girl friend from college died from a car crash, so i dont go there anymore its far far too risky.
This job pales in comparison unless we're talking sex with animals/corpse, body mutilation, brutal pain causing scars, murder etc that sort of stuff. That can happen regardless of being a call girl or not. If i want to make sure that doesnt happen to me id get a normal job, go home and never go out, stay in away from all chances of danger.
Id never do BB with any random client, its way too risky, it only takes one of those girls on AW in London who are from Europe to catch HIV/syphilis, a client catches it then gives it to me. So no way am i offering BB on a wim like some girls are on AW, ive already been there done that in my personal life before escorting, now i pretty much never sleep with anyone other than clients. I can tolerate being called the towns bike (if word got out) but not called the local sperm bank.
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Im on the pill but if i do get pregnant i'll have a nice percentage amount of his income from the CSA, thats the main reason i only do BB with a wealthy client. Ive thought everything through and through i plan things so i'll never worry financially in my life.
I wouldn't rely on that as a fall back plan TBH. Anything can go wrong.
You say the clients wife knows about you and doesn't mind, but what if you get pregnant by him? She might mind and would probably do all she could to make sure you don't get a penny.
Plus what Loulou37 said above.
Either way be safe :)
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Im on the pill but if i do get pregnant i'll have a nice percentage amount of his income from the CSA, thats the main reason i only do BB with a wealthy client. Ive thought everything through and through i plan things so i'll never worry financially in my life.
I wouldn't rely on that as a fall back plan TBH. Anything can go wrong.
You say the clients wife knows about you and doesn't mind, but what if you get pregnant by him? She might mind and would probably do all she could to make sure you don't get a penny.
Plus what Loulou37 said above.
Either way be safe :)
Am I the only one here who finds this quite morally reprehensible?? Imagine telling your future child, "Mummy has you while she was a prostitute so she could get wealthy off of a very rich client. Wasn't mummy clever!" Good future parenting skills, yo!
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Am I the only one here who finds this quite morally reprehensible?? Imagine telling your future child, "Mummy has you while she was a prostitute so she could get wealthy off of a very rich client. Wasn't mummy clever!" Good future parenting skills, yo!
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The only one to say it.
But not the only one to think it. ;)
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Id never do BB with any random client, its way too risky, it only takes one of those girls on AW in London who are from Europe to catch HIV/syphilis, a client catches it then gives it to me. So no way am i offering BB on a wim like some girls are on AW, ive already been there done that in my personal life before escorting, now i pretty much never sleep with anyone other than clients. I can tolerate being called the towns bike (if word got out) but not called the local sperm bank.
Sorry to disillusion you but hiv is not limited to one of those girls in Europe as you put it. Hiv and other stis/ stds do not discriminate with regards to age, sex, gender,race and are worldwide. The person in front of you at the supermarket checkout could have it and would wouldn't even know.
You never sleep much with anyone except client????????? No me neither but what that has to do with stis/ stds I have no idea. Also, you say you do not offer BB on a whim. It only takes the once to catch something / get pregnant.
You could be the most moralistic perosn on this earth and then go and do something a bit odd /out of character and have aone night unrpotected one night stand. Just that one encounter would be enough to catch something.
At the end of the day it is your body and your life. I'm just saying.....
Am I the only one here who finds this quite morally reprehensible?? Imagine telling your future child, "Mummy has you while she was a prostitute so she could get wealthy off of a very rich client. Wasn't mummy clever!" Good future parenting skills, yo!
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The only one to say it.
But not the only one to think it. ;)
No, Kitty you are not but you are the only one who has been brave enough to voice its Jodie has said. Hmmm, well imo what you have said lou shows a high disregard for oneself /lack of self respect and value. Which if you ask me is very very sad. There are risks and there are risks. Okay, if you think those risks are worth it.
But if you did get pregnant or catch something then how would you work?
There is no guarantee that you would even get CSA for that matter . Oh and just for the record should you catch something and be thinking your wealthy client will compensate you that would only be so if he knowingly knew he had something and deliberately did not tell you.
For me personally I like my job and would not wish to take such risks for the sake of some hypothetical payout fee. As the song says..... It's your life...............
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The other day a guy offered me an extra ?80 for bareback even though I specifically say I don't offer it under any circumstances. ::)
I guess they just feel the need to try anyway.
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punter asks, "I will pay you extra for bareback."
I respond, "Okay. That will be ?300,000,000,000 cash, verifiable notes, thanks."
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punter asks, "I will pay you extra for bareback."
I respond, "Okay. That will be ?300,000,000,000 cash, verifiable notes, thanks."
:D Yep, sounds like a good response!
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No offence to anyone who offers/ever done BB but it literally turns my stomach. There seems to be loads of reverse bookings on AW asking for BB and there seems to be loads of bids on them.
Yuk!!
It cant feel THAT different that your willing to risk, infections, diseases, pregnancy..... it baffles me. baffles
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It is just wrong on alot of levels. I pride myself on personal hygiene, and I don't fancy a death sentence any time soon :-\ The girls who are offering it are very foolish.
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Im on the pill but if i do get pregnant i'll have a nice percentage amount of his income from the CSA, thats the main reason i only do BB with a wealthy client. Ive thought everything through and through i plan things so i'll never worry financially in my life
This has to be the most insane and stupidest thing i heard in a long time i honestly thought that i had heard it all but obviously not. Not even the bareback bit which i guess is each to it own but having a child simply because the father is wealthy Wealth is subjective just cos he can down a couple of grand a month on you now dont mean to say he is gonna do it for a kid he probably dont want
i mean lets face it at the moment he gets something he wants for is 2grand bare back sex When your pregnant feeling sick and fat and cant stomach the thought of a cock stuffed down your throat how willing is he gonna be to depart with his money then
i would imagine that the moment you told him he would be on the phone to his accountant to hide his assesst and sundenly become self employed on min wage
just as a point my sons father and his family are incredibly wealthy both money and assests wise (his family privatly own a well known hotel chain - but no free holiday for me sadly as we dont get on )
however to avoid paying csa payments he went simply self employed in his family business as i woudlnt agree to certain access arrangements. i would have been getting probably 1500 -2000 a month of him if he hadnt done that but he was able to be made redudant and then employed 2 weeks later as self employed earning f...all
In my experience those that are wealthy tend to be incredibly tight with there money when being ordered to spend or give it by other people
if your seriously thinking that mr bareback punter is going to pay for a kid that he has by a prostitute and you dont think his wife is going to have much to say about it then good luck to you
His wife while may tolerate him sleeping with a prositute but personally i dont think she would be very tolerating of him having bareback sex (and then returning and having sex with her ) and having a kid with said prostitute
When her home and lifestyle and her childrens inheritance becomes affected by the possibilty of another child i would imagine that you and kid would be kicked to the kerbside pretty quick ( unless of course its true love) and he leaves said wife to come and live with you) and unless she is a total mug she would do everthing within her power to prevent you getting a penny of money from her husband
However just so that you know so that you can plan for said sprog should it happen any new case that that csa take on are voluntary. ie your not forced to apply for maintance. You have to pay them to 0pen the case for you to collect the money and also a admin fee each month as well its a set amount of i think 12 of gross wages which isnt a lot what that 12 pounds in every hudred quid
Also csa is based on his wages alone So he may assest rich and cash poor , have you read his bank statements, see his wage slips, do you actually really truly know everything about him and his potential wage he may have loads of property worth zillions but thats might be in his wifes name and not his This is very very common with weathLy people who run there own businesss as if they go bankrupt they dont loose the house and to avoid csa payments he can put the business in his wifes name and just be an employee on 100 a week and pay you a fiver a week if your lucky
if your not married and hes not on the birth certificate then you would have have to apply for maintanance and probably pay for a DNA test if he refuses to pay
and as the csa will be voluntary and payment that mother gets is not taken off them to offset any income support benefit anymore there is no benefit to the csa demanding paternity test and the DNA can only be done by certain companies and you have to get him there to do it
anyone know if the new version csa force the father anymore to have a dna test as they could do in the past if he refused a dna test parentage was assumed as it voluntary now i dont know where it would stand
Either way what on earth happend to having a child for love, because you love your partner and want to have a part of them. When you dont get the molahh from said client for said baby who know how you will feel resentfull of the child for fucking up your life .......
fuck i put more thought into the possibility of breeding from my dogs than it appears you have to having a kid by a client just because he has money
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I empathize.
I do the same thing, but he doesn't come inside of me.
It's, yes I know it's incredibly stupid.
I also know he'd never cheated on his wife prior to seeing me, and he's too...I don't think he's the lying type.
And the whole 'well, he's married, so he'd have to be thoughtful about not giving HIV to his wife, right? Right?'...anyways, it offers a sort of protective cloak.
I also don't have much sex outside of this. And I like the feeling of condom-less sex.
So anyways, I empathize.
I know all that and was expeting those exact type of responses.
We are totally honest and open with each other about literally everything, i can tell he tells me the truth. Ive seen it in his eyes and the way he says it that he is far too scared to do it with anyone else. He only sleeps me and his wife who only wants sex every so many weeks which is why he comes to me as i make him feel young again and no one else will do BB, he looks ok for his age he's 52 and visits me every few days and an overnight every month. Apparantly she knows about me and doesnt mind, she handles all their finances so she knows whats going on except about the BB part.
My hourly rate is ?150, he gives me ?300, or ?1000 for an overnight, on average i make probably ?2.5k per month from him alone, financially i dont need to see any other clients or dance as a stripper but i do anyway as i love flirting, lots of sex and money.
I can usually tell when he's slept with his wife as he doesnt visit me for nearly 2 weeks, he just cant physically manage more sex to be seeing any other women.
Im on the pill but if i do get pregnant i'll have a nice percentage amount of his income from the CSA, thats the main reason i only do BB with a wealthy client. Ive thought everything through and through i plan things so i'll never worry financially in my life.
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I empathize.
I do the same thing, but he doesn't come inside of me.
It's, yes I know it's incredibly stupid.
I also know he'd never cheated on his wife prior to seeing me, and he's too...I don't think he's the lying type.
And the whole 'well, he's married, so he'd have to be thoughtful about not giving HIV to his wife, right? Right?'...anyways, it offers a sort of protective cloak.
I also don't have much sex outside of this. And I like the feeling of condom-less sex.
So anyways, I empathize.
Me too. But I like the feeling of being alive and well even more.
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Is this a wind up - oh please where is Jeremy kyle when you bloody need him .... of course he is the lying type, he is lying to his wife, to his family, his kids, in fact every time he come along and f....you he is lying Unless of course his wife knows and his happy for him to get sexsomewhere else and as long as she is aware that its unprotected sex then she has a choice but as she dosnt then im sorry its disgusting that he can do that to his wife
The fact that he is married and so he would be worried about giving hiv to his wife, but excuse me did you not ever have sex education,
i have to ask but do you not read anything HIV would probably be the last thing i would be worried about catching, what about herpes gonahreah syphillis clamidya thrush ect all of this is probably a lot more higher than bare back sex do you think that because he dosnt cum inside you your imune to catching anything this is what i would expect to hear from kids in the school playgrounds i cant get pregant/ catch anything cos he didnt cum inside
You on the otherhand you have a choice to sleep with him unprotected so that up to you and im not judging you in any way but him im sorry he is a piece of shit and if he gets something nasty and his dick drops off then all the better for mankind
and of course you know he hasnt cheated on his wife before, how would you because he told you so .... but hes a liar becuase he is f..... you without a condom and his wife dont know so that makes him a liar and someone not to trust and so the circle goes on and on and on
to be honest its not actually the bare back sex bit that get me wound up when i read these threads. its the bloody stupididty of women beliving what the punters have told you i dont sleep with my wife, she knows about us, ive never cheated before in my life untill i met you , pleeeeeeeeas wake up and smell the coffee
If he can f..... you without a condom then i would bet that he is f...... others women as well other escorts along with his wife and you without a condom he probalby has a women in every state just a willing and stupid to belive his bullshit
Guys that will sleep with another women and not just a prostitute without using a condom and they are married or in a long term relationship in my opinion are scum, not becuase they are sleeping with you without a condom becuase that down to them but because there poor wife or partner has no f......ing choice in wether or not she wants to catch somthing nasty from her husbands wandering condomless dick . What would happen if she was pregnant im sure some std can affect the unborn child
I Sincerely hope that you are getting some serious wad of dosh out of this guy not because of the bareback sex in the slightest but because he is an asshole and deserve to get fleeced for the lies he tells his wife
I empathize.
I do the same thing, but he doesn't come inside of me.
It's, yes I know it's incredibly stupid.
I also know he'd never cheated on his wife prior to seeing me, and he's too...I don't think he's the lying type.
And the whole 'well, he's married, so he'd have to be thoughtful about not giving HIV to his wife, right? Right?'...anyways, it offers a sort of protective cloak.
I also don't have much sex outside of this. And I like the feeling of condom-less sex.
So anyways, I empathize.
I know all that and was expeting those exact type of responses.
We are totally honest and open with each other about literally everything, i can tell he tells me the truth. Ive seen it in his eyes and the way he says it that he is far too scared to do it with anyone else. He only sleeps me and his wife who only wants sex every so many weeks which is why he comes to me as i make him feel young again and no one else will do BB, he looks ok for his age he's 52 and visits me every few days and an overnight every month. Apparantly she knows about me and doesnt mind, she handles all their finances so she knows whats going on except about the BB part.
My hourly rate is ?150, he gives me ?300, or ?1000 for an overnight, on average i make probably ?2.5k per month from him alone, financially i dont need to see any other clients or dance as a stripper but i do anyway as i love flirting, lots of sex and money.
I can usually tell when he's slept with his wife as he doesnt visit me for nearly 2 weeks, he just cant physically manage more sex to be seeing any other women.
Im on the pill but if i do get pregnant i'll have a nice percentage amount of his income from the CSA, thats the main reason i only do BB with a wealthy client. Ive thought everything through and through i plan things so i'll never worry financially in my life.
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Thanks Paris - your post was the little slap/cold-water in the face I needed to go back to the old-strict-no rubber-no-service policy with this fellow.
Seeing him tonight, actually, so thank you!
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Quote from: ParisB on Today at 06:26:05 PM
Is this a wind up -
Think you may have a point here...
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i am having exact same thing! guy with good feedback constantlly going on about bare back. think he is winding me up, he does seem to have a scense of humour. i said if i saw him i would gaffa tape the condom on!
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I wasnt trying to be rude to you yourself or even to the other poster if someone dose bareback thats down to them its not something i really have an opinion on as such, people offer it and people accept and they have a choice to do so or not
im realistic enough to know that it goes on out there and all i can do as an escort for myself is to make sure that any client i see wears a condoms i didnt even comment on the thread untill i read the unbeilivable post of about csa and the guy is weathly so she will only fuck him like this because if she get pregnant she made for life cos he is rich
What did get me mad is the the punters wife /partner dosnt get a choice in it, thats what i dont like, i would be saying exactly the same if the guy was having an affair and having unprotected sex with the other woman
if you or the other poster want to risk your health for a bit more money or just for the thrill of doing something risky thats entirely up to you both, your both your over 18 and its not illegal so there isnt really an issue from your side of it as your consenting adults but for the client to do this and then go home and f.... his poor wife/partner is wrong she has no choice in it at all, you do, your client dose, but she dosnt and its wrong Im sure if you gave her a choice it wouldnt be yeah sure hun go ahead and fuck lou 19 and Meg foster bareback tonight and dont forget to grab a pint of milk on the way home
Ok lots of guys will pay for sex with escorts and there wives and partners dont know but if its with a condom and his wife dosnt know it may still not right morally ( but that another post) but its safe and at least she wont get a std or worse and hes not playing russian roulette with her life, but the whole no condom bit is wrong because he has a partner and she dosnt have a choice in weather or not she want to get an std or something along those lines
Thanks Paris - your post was the little slap/cold-water in the face I needed to go back to the old-strict-no rubber-no-service policy with this fellow.
Seeing him tonight, actually, so thank you!
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lol i dont know if its a wind up or not but its certainly wound me up i hate to think what jeremy kyle would say he would be frothing at the mouth by now
Quote from: ParisB on Today at 06:26:05 PM
Is this a wind up -
Think you may have a point here...
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Personally I'd worry that if a client was in the habit of BB with other escorts that he might turn around during a booking and hassle me for BB, or 'accidentally' let the condom slip off, or something of the sort...
The problem with that is that you have no possible way of knowing whether the bloke is in the habit of BB with other prossies, or anybody else. And just because he is or isn't doesn't make him any more or less likely to interfere with a condom - there's plenty who will try that one, and it's more than likely going to be the ones who pick ladies who don't offer unprotected sex as they're more likely to think they won't catch anything. The people who want BB without the hassle will just book ladies who offer it; it's the nasty ones who want to try and get away with something that isn't on the menu we have to watch for all the time.
Hi Amy- Agree with you but for me personally it's psychological. I would refuse to see a client if i knew he saw other ladies who offer bareback. It's just the thought of it for me.
I've been pestered for BB a handful of times, not many and it's just something we occasionally have to deal with - the most persistent bloke I remember did book me through AW and there was no clue in either his feedbacks or emails that he was going to try this. Being vigilant about condoms is part of the job (and on the flip side I've had clients who tried to insist on wearing two at once, and the tiresome explaining of why this was a bad idea was even more annoying than Mr of-course-I'm-clean-I'm-married).
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Someone rang me yesterday and asked if I would do it for an extra ?100. I told him I wouldn't for all the tea in China. That must have gone over his head because he then upped the price to ?150.
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Someone rang me yesterday and asked if I would do it for an extra ?100. I told him I wouldn't for all the tea in China. That must have gone over his head because he then upped the price to ?150.
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I had a guy email me (posted in world champs) saying he'd soooo love to meet me, but only if it was 'with his bare cock'
Humm wonder how many he sent that to?
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Someone rang me yesterday and asked if I would do it for an extra ?100. I told him I wouldn't for all the tea in China. That must have gone over his head because he then upped the price to ?150.
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I had a guy email me (posted in world champs) saying he'd soooo love to meet me, but only if it was 'with his bare cock'
Humm wonder how many he sent that to?
Heh I don't know, maybe he sent it round in a bulk e-mail.
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Ive been in far more dangerous situations than this job, because ive been a thrill seeker. I was probably at my most dangerous when i was 15-17 when i used to go around having BB sex with about half of the guys, and out with boyracers at cruises and races around the country. Speeding like 120-150mph down main roads through town at night in big suped up cars, seen a few extreme near misses that really scared me, a girl friend from college died from a car crash, so i dont go there anymore its far far too risky.
This job pales in comparison unless we're talking sex with animals/corpse, body mutilation, brutal pain causing scars, murder etc that sort of stuff. That can happen regardless of being a call girl or not. If i want to make sure that doesnt happen to me id get a normal job, go home and never go out, stay in away from all chances of danger.
Id never do BB with any random client, its way too risky, it only takes one of those girls on AW in London who are from Europe to catch HIV/syphilis, a client catches it then gives it to me. So no way am i offering BB on a wim like some girls are on AW, ive already been there done that in my personal life before escorting, now i pretty much never sleep with anyone other than clients. I can tolerate being called the towns bike (if word got out) but not called the local sperm bank.
I fear these posts are not actually from a WG, but from a man looking for cheap thrills... Yawn... Pull the other one...
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Ive been in far more dangerous situations than this job, because ive been a thrill seeker. I was probably at my most dangerous when i was 15-17 when i used to go around having BB sex with about half of the guys, and out with boyracers at cruises and races around the country. Speeding like 120-150mph down main roads through town at night in big suped up cars, seen a few extreme near misses that really scared me, a girl friend from college died from a car crash, so i dont go there anymore its far far too risky.
This job pales in comparison unless we're talking sex with animals/corpse, body mutilation, brutal pain causing scars, murder etc that sort of stuff. That can happen regardless of being a call girl or not. If i want to make sure that doesnt happen to me id get a normal job, go home and never go out, stay in away from all chances of danger.
Id never do BB with any random client, its way too risky, it only takes one of those girls on AW in London who are from Europe to catch HIV/syphilis, a client catches it then gives it to me. So no way am i offering BB on a wim like some girls are on AW, ive already been there done that in my personal life before escorting, now i pretty much never sleep with anyone other than clients. I can tolerate being called the towns bike (if word got out) but not called the local sperm bank.
I fear these posts are not actually from a WG, but from a man looking for cheap thrills... Yawn... Pull the other one...
Agreed Jenny, this is ridiculous!! Especially the part that implies that it's just the European girls that have STIs .....seriously? Commenting on the whole bareback debate, I wouldn't not see someone because they'd been with a BB girl before simply because you don't know if they chose to use a condom or not....*sounding a bit naive here* ...they most likely went to them because they are cheap :D
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I can't see clients who have done BB with other girls. It is a psychological thing, but I can't deal with it morally. It's dangerous, and just rings alarm bells for me..
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Bareback?
Not even for all the gold of this world!!!
My health is very important ! Some clients are really stupid
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Lol, this has been really interesting! The mind boggles! :o
I can't imagine having unprotected sex with a client, I really really can't. Even if I stretch my imagination to it's furthest lengths I can't see myself saying 'go on, just do it'.
I imagine some girls see sex work as an extension of their personal sexual experiences, which is sad really. I guess if you are willing to fuck strangers unprotected, it's not a huge leap to do it for money as well.
Personally I think I'd be devastated to discover that chlamydia had been twisting up my insides, or warts were turning my vagina into a mass of road bumps while I was happily putting my faith in unfaithful men. But then that's me expressing my opinion while squicking out.
Ironically, the only men who have ever asked me for BB have been regulars. I was never very impressed >:(
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I never pass judgement on how someone wants to work as each to their own but some of the comments on here made me physically feel sick, The pregnancy comment horrified me. It has not been though through at all. I had a child with a man who had a very well paid job and is very wealthy, we were even together at the time of the birth until the doctors stated my son had brain damage and would likely have life long compications. He left the hospital and never came back and I have never been able to get a penny out of him. Not a singe penny even though he is bloody loaded and has bought a house in the most expensive part of the country (houses start at just over a million).
Have you thought what you would do if heaven forbid your child had a disability. One that means for the first few years your life only consists of hospitals, medications and worry, where you have no life of your own at all. One that cost you thousands and thousands of pounds on health costs (the government dont cover it believe me). I was lucky I met a wonderful man who looks after my son when I work so that I could do this job to pay for my sons needs, He needs therapists, nurses when he is bad and all sorts of other things the state wont pay for unless I put him in a residential care unit.
I have this now for the rest of his life. Not till he is 18 but until either he or I pass away. This may sounds extreme but it does happen more often than you would think, I know how many women I have met in the same situation and it is damn awful
As Paris said I also put more care/thought into bredding my bulldogs than you have in thinking this through. It took me nearly two years to find a suitable mate for my dogs.
Sorry for the lecture but you really do need to re think the whole If I do accidently get pregnant
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I never pass judgement on how someone wants to work as each to their own but some of the comments on here made me physically feel sick, The pregnancy comment horrified me. It has not been though through at all. I had a child with a man who had a very well paid job and is very wealthy, we were even together at the time of the birth until the doctors stated my son had brain damage and would likely have life long compications. He left the hospital and never came back and I have never been able to get a penny out of him. Not a singe penny even though he is bloody loaded and has bought a house in the most expensive part of the country (houses start at just over a million).
Have you thought what you would do if heaven forbid your child had a disability. One that means for the first few years your life only consists of hospitals, medications and worry, where you have no life of your own at all. One that cost you thousands and thousands of pounds on health costs (the government dont cover it believe me). I was lucky I met a wonderful man who looks after my son when I work so that I could do this job to pay for my sons needs, He needs therapists, nurses when he is bad and all sorts of other things the state wont pay for unless I put him in a residential care unit.
I have this now for the rest of his life. Not till he is 18 but until either he or I pass away. This may sounds extreme but it does happen more often than you would think, I know how many women I have met in the same situation and it is damn awful
As Paris said I also put more care/thought into bredding my bulldogs than you have in thinking this through. It took me nearly two years to find a suitable mate for my dogs.
Sorry for the lecture but you really do need to re think the whole If I do accidently get pregnant
I'm sorry to hear about the father abandoning you both. I do hope you get by ok and manage. I'm really glad you have help though.
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Ah he did us a favour and it was a long time ago now and we do ok. Its the reason i do this job to pay for my sons care and to ensure we can still do the things a normal family would do.
I was not looking for sympathy just trying to point out to the OP how accidently getting pregnant can have serious consequences that can leave you with a lot to cope with and can end up with you losing your life such as it was. I lost all my friends as coud not go out, I lost myself as well along the way as I became a mother and carer and stopped bein a woman too. Having kids is a serious decision and not one to be taken so flippantly. Risking that in the hope of getting money if it did happen it ridiculous. No amount of money would be worth what I and my son have been through and I do hope the OP thinks about using other methods of birth control so that this pregnancy with a client never happens.
We all think "yes but thats rare" and "it wont happen to me" but it can and it does.
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Ah he did us a favour and it was a long time ago now and we do ok. Its the reason i do this job to pay for my sons care and to ensure we can still do the things a normal family would do.
I was not looking for sympathy just trying to point out to the OP how accidently getting pregnant can have serious consequences that can leave you with a lot to cope with and can end up with you losing your life such as it was. I lost all my friends as coud not go out, I lost myself as well along the way as I became a mother and carer and stopped bein a woman too. Having kids is a serious decision and not one to be taken so flippantly. Risking that in the hope of getting money if it did happen it ridiculous. No amount of money would be worth what I and my son have been through and I do hope the OP thinks about using other methods of birth control so that this pregnancy with a client never happens.
We all think "yes but thats rare" and "it wont happen to me" but it can and it does.
I know the feeling. I had my daughter when I was 17. I was young and almost alone had it not been for my brother who'd already left home and had his own place. I spent much of my time living with him. It wasn't easy as my newborn was crying a lot and keeping him up but he was really good about it.
Gradually over time I was able to get my own place and start working. Not as a sex worker originally although I did dabble.
Now I have a small and loyal circle of friends and a pretty secure life.
I hope things continue to go well for you, I wish you and your son the very best
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