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UrbaneAspects

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Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« on: 09 March 2010, 02:21:24 am »
I spoke about this before, but now I am really starting to feel off about this. I have 2 personas, one of a cheaper rate..but things are really starting to come together and scare me.

This morning, I had a guy call me on both of my numbers...just several minutes apart. He also called last night, but just on 1 of my numbers. And lately, I havent been getting clients from my more expensive site in months.

However, I initially started advertising on the cheaper site because business was very slow, and by doing that I did get things moving along quickly, however...Im thinking that perhaps I am doing a disservice to myself now because I am always getting only clients from the less expensive site and Im starting to think they all really know its me...even though I dont show my face on 1 of the sites.

So now Im just about to take down all of my cheaper sites, except for massage. Its just I get tired of people calling both my numbers from the separate sites, and the ones who do book...they go thru the cheaper site anyway.

I have thought of offering less services, or just doing oral only on my less expensive site...but most times people do end up wanting to have actually sex. And while I was on tour...they all came from the cheaper sites. Its like, what do I make of this? Do I need to discontinue my cheaper product now? It does no good to spend money on an expensive site only to get 0 and everything else from the cheaper site
« Last Edit: 09 March 2010, 02:23:36 am by American J »

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Re: Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« Reply #1 on: 09 March 2010, 09:03:43 am »
I'd probably cancel the expensive site, then. It's costing you money and getting you no bookings? I'd get out my crayons and handmake them a poster saying "Best Advertising Site of The Year (NOT! LOL!)", send it off and cancel my payments to them on the same day.

Since you've done thorough testing of both listings you're probably safe to focus on the one that works now. How about sticking to the one persona and offering different levels of service? Depending on how long they book (and therefore the more you get paid) there are more services available to them. Saves getting all ready, interrupting your day and then rushing through full service for a half hour client, anyway. And your lower-rate services will look even more attractive compared to the 'executive package', which will still attract those who like a more luxurious time.
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Re: Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« Reply #2 on: 10 March 2010, 11:53:10 pm »
I'd probably cancel the expensive site, then. It's costing you money and getting you no bookings? I'd get out my crayons and handmake them a poster saying "Best Advertising Site of The Year (NOT! LOL!)", send it off and cancel my payments to them on the same day.

Lol, good one. I am so tempted to do so.

I have no idea why that site...which used to be perfect for getting 2-300 dollar bookings is no longer working. And its not like, I can just charge my lower rate because then I stand out. 70% on the site charges 200+, and the men who visit the site know that they are going to be paying 200 and up. So why the FUCK should I list my rate as 40-60 dollars less than everyone else? I shouldn't, thats why I switched sites. And then when I attempt to charge my higher rate on the less expensive site, I get nothing but timewasters and dusty cell phones that dont ring.

And the other day...a client showed me photos of some ho he met off the more expensive site, yet he hired me from the cheaper when I was also advertising on the more expensive site  ???

So Im just like, fuck it. I have to pay them $50 a month and I get like 1 client from there a monthy, if that. Im about to take my foot and shove it up their 2 timing arse.
« Last Edit: 10 March 2010, 11:55:05 pm by American J »

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Re: Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« Reply #3 on: 11 March 2010, 02:02:18 am »
Well if its costing you so much more per month for just one booking then I would question if its worth it. But clients are not daft and will clearly see your cheaper ad if they have a particular "type" of guy in mind (looks wise.) that they want to see. Maybe raise your rates slightly on  the cheaper ad to see how things go? Once they have decided to book its easier to drop your agreed fee than try to raise it.
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Re: Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« Reply #4 on: 11 March 2010, 10:55:34 pm »
Once they have decided to book its easier to drop your agreed fee than try to raise it.

hmmm, I would have to disagree. Its harder to do so over the phone, but in person...I find it so much easier when they see me lol. And with me having to advertise on these cheaper sites...I end up having to ask for more anyhow because no way am I doing full service for a massage rate.

I guess 200 on paper and 200 in person is not the same. Amazing....

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« Reply #5 on: 12 March 2010, 08:07:54 am »
hmmm, I would have to disagree. Its harder to do so over the phone, but in person...I find it so much easier when they see me lol. And with me having to advertise on these cheaper sites...I end up having to ask for more anyhow because no way am I doing full service for a massage rate.

I guess 200 on paper and 200 in person is not the same. Amazing....

Well, over here I know it's quite a big deal for punters if they turn up to a booking to discover that everything is extra. They don't like it. So make sure your advertising is clear that if they book a cheap massage but might decide halfway through that they want to fuck you silly then they're going to need to bring a specific amount of extra cash, just to help avoid the Sulky Punter Situation (you know, bad reviews, reputation ruining, messageboard whining, etc etc).

Just because you can intimidate a man in person doesn't mean he's actually happy to be handing out more money.
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Re: Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« Reply #6 on: 12 March 2010, 12:12:02 pm »
And the other day...a client showed me photos of some ho he met off the more expensive site, yet he hired me from the cheaper when I was also advertising on the more expensive site  ???

Really don't understand why that surprises or annoys you?
If I see exactly the same thing advertised in two places but for a different price of course I will get it where it is cheaper, that is a no-brainer!
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« Reply #7 on: 12 March 2010, 02:08:52 pm »
Really don't understand why that surprises or annoys you?
If I see exactly the same thing advertised in two places but for a different price of course I will get it where it is cheaper, that is a no-brainer!

thats the thing, its not exactly the same thing.

Are you telling me that a GFE is the same as wham bam, thankyou m'am? Naaaah. Thats the difference. I dont offer the same services on the same sites.

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« Reply #8 on: 12 March 2010, 03:49:23 pm »
Really don't understand why that surprises or annoys you?
If I see exactly the same thing advertised in two places but for a different price of course I will get it where it is cheaper, that is a no-brainer!

thats the thing, its not exactly the same thing.

Are you telling me that a GFE is the same as wham bam, thankyou m'am? Naaaah. Thats the difference. I dont offer the same services on the same sites.

I think most of us charge by time Joey - charging by service isn't that common here apart from in street work. And as far as their time goes, whether my clients want GFE, wham bam or a game of Scrabble, yes, the price is the same.

If there are extras available, I think you really need to make it clear - as Emily said, if punters visit expecting to pay X amount and then find out that it's actually going to cost them XX you might get the cash from them that once, but they won't be back - not because of the price, but because they'll feel as if they were misled in the first place.

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« Reply #9 on: 15 March 2010, 03:02:41 am »
Thanks for clearing that up Amy,
 
Personally I value myself too much to offer a Wham bam thank you mam service, if that is what it turns out to be, so be it, but the fee is the same.
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Re: Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« Reply #10 on: 15 March 2010, 12:22:01 pm »
Thanks for clearing that up Amy,
 
Personally I value myself too much to offer a Wham bam thank you mam service, if that is what it turns out to be, so be it, but the fee is the same.

I can see how advertising is harder in the US as you would have to be so much more careful of how you word things, but I still think that the service a client wants and how much this will ultimately cost him ought to be established before things get started, including any extras if they are on offer. From other things Joey has described though, it does go on a lot more than it does here (I remember him mentioning a girl he worked with who charged extra just to get undressed), so I suppose some of it depends on cultural differences too. We do have it quite a bit easier, really!

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Re: Am having trouble maintaining different personas...
« Reply #11 on: 19 March 2010, 05:36:52 am »
Thanks for clearing that up Amy,
 
Personally I value myself too much to offer a Wham bam thank you mam service, if that is what it turns out to be, so be it, but the fee is the same.

I can see how advertising is harder in the US as you would have to be so much more careful of how you word things, but I still think that the service a client wants and how much this will ultimately cost him ought to be established before things get started, including any extras if they are on offer. From other things Joey has described though, it does go on a lot more than it does here (I remember him mentioning a girl he worked with who charged extra just to get undressed), so I suppose some of it depends on cultural differences too. We do have it quite a bit easier, really!

Yes...you all do. However, there is no scheming or plotting involved. I advertise massages now. Simple as that. Craigslist will not allow us here in the U.S. to advertise escort services any longer. My rate is listed.

No way in heaven or hell am I going to suck, get fucked, fuck, CIM, etc. for the same rate as my massage. So of course, I have to ask for more, even if its right in the middle of a session.

I used to think asking for more was a turn off...but then I remember, hello! I'm a sex-worker. Part of the thrill is them giving out extra money so I can do extra tricks. However, I do have a limit. And I dont ask for extra more than once....