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Title: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: BBW Joi Parker on 05 April 2015, 02:00:43 am
This line of work can be a lot to deal with by yourself. I try to make friends so I can have someone to talk to but idek if I can trust anyone. Do any of you have friends in the industry? How did you make them? How do you know they'll keep ALL your secrets
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: alice842 on 05 April 2015, 02:38:12 am
I do ;D I have a good friend whom I met at a FFM booking with a client and we were chatting afterwards and then bumped into each other at sex workers breakfasts. We do duo bookings together now as well.

I have met up with a couple of people from twitter. They're all great and people I know I'll get on with because we have similar views on things like feminism, sex worker's rights, LGBTQ issues etc. Quite a lot of them are involved in sex worker activism as well.

I'm fairly open with most people though. The only people I wouldn't want to find out would be future employers (which is why I blur my face in photos) and my parents - although even if they found out I think they'd be okay with it as long as I was safe and happy. My partner knows about my job and is supportive - I've told a few of his friends and a few of my friends know as well. Everyone I've told has been someone who I've known for certain wouldn't have an issue with it.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Fabulassie on 05 April 2015, 09:49:23 am
I do have some good friends. Two of them I've known long enough to trust completely - the three of us spend quite a bit of time together and I feel like I know what they'd do in any given situation (i.e., they won't fuck me over.) We know one another's real names, etc.

 There are a couple of others I've met that I think are lovely and have no reason to distrust and I quite like them and am willing to spend more time with. None of us know one another's real names, I don't think, but there's no real rush to share those details.

To my thinking, there are different levels of trust. I have relatively little at risk in terms of being outed by anyone. That's not my issue. None of the women I know and like seem inclined to be malicious and I don't see them doing anything stupid like trying to fuck up my reputation with clients. (I have heard tales of jealousy along those lines.)

The final level is more in terms of what sort of person they'd be if it came to loaning money or something like that - general flakiness Would I share a flat with them, trust them to turn up for a shared tour, etc. None of these women seem flakey but I can't really say for sure. Have heard many a tale of a girl fucking over another for rent or something when they thought they knew them very well. That is something you just can't know about a person until you know them very well indeed and people are frequently surprised when someone they thought they knew does a runner with rent or whatever. I certainly have no reason to doubt any of the ladies I'm friendly with, but prossies are often a bit unstable and it wouldn't shock me if I were to, say, pay for a two-bedroom serviced flat and the other girl flaked out leaving me to pay for the whole thing. Those things happen.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Miss K xXx on 05 April 2015, 11:46:01 am
I use this forum to chat to others in the same boat whether we have a clash of opinions or not as I think it's always good to chat because the job definitely is isolating if your family and friends don't know HOWEVER, I learnt very early on not to trust other working girls. I had my fingers seriously brunt and nearly lost everything. Never again.

I've even had problems (silly drama) with 1 or 2 ladies I've gotten particular close to through forums that's caused me nothing but bother when all I've ever tried to do is help or be supportive but when they turn on me, I ain't no doormat and try not to take any shit but now I just don't bother my arse getting close to anyone in this game escort wise in any way, shape or forum.

I have a few very good clients that I also class as friends who I do trust though.

xx
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: MissCurtis on 05 April 2015, 01:20:52 pm
I haven't met other WG's yet in real life. Maybe soon. Part of it might have something to do with me being overly cautious.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Fabulassie on 05 April 2015, 01:33:56 pm
I haven't met other WG's yet in real life. Maybe soon. Part of it might have something to do with me being overly cautious.

Being cautious is smart. On the other hand, other girls can be an invaluable source of information - especially if touring. I have gotten info on London venues far beyond what I've read on this board from girls I've met with in London.

If you meet in a coffee shop and stick to working names only, it is relatively risk free. You can suss a person out  and decide if you'd like to become closer friends. But you can be pretty friendly with someone in a coffee date sort of way without revealing too much about yourself and it's a lot of fun.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: MissCurtis on 05 April 2015, 01:37:58 pm
I haven't met other WG's yet in real life. Maybe soon. Part of it might have something to do with me being overly cautious.

Being cautious is smart. On the other hand, other girls can be an invaluable source of information - especially if touring. I have gotten info on London venues far beyond what I've read on this board from girls I've met with in London.

If you meet in a coffee shop and stick to working names only, it is relatively risk free. You can suss a person out  and decide if you'd like to become closer friends. But you can be pretty friendly with someone in a coffee date sort of way without revealing too much about yourself and it's a lot of fun.

This is true. I've onlly been escorting a year and a bit so that's one reason I'm cautious.  A touring buddy would be good. Your suggestion isound.is good. 
   
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: SelenaLondon on 05 April 2015, 01:55:46 pm
I've had only good experiences with my fellow WG and they make wonderful friends.

There is good and BAD in all occupations  :)
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Miss K xXx on 05 April 2015, 03:38:14 pm
I've had only good experiences with my fellow WG and they make wonderful friends.

There is good and BAD in all occupations  :)

There is good and bad in all walks of life and all occupations but other people in other occupations don't then go and out you (expose you) to your family and friends.

If an escort doesn't get her way or looses the plot like many do over the slightest little thing, they always have a hold over you to use as blackmail. I'm speaking from experience here.

I was far too trusting with my real name and details and let's just say that becuase I couldn't handle another escorts drinking and coke taking (which turned them into aggressive, argumentative and violent head cases)......I ended up almost loosing everything.

I did loose one person that will never ever look at me the same again which I've had to live with this past 3 years.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: nachos on 05 April 2015, 03:56:46 pm
Im lucky I have known my escort friends since before we became escorts. So I trust them completely in this respect.

Unfortunately we are now in different parts of UK and hardly get to see each other at all.

I would love to make new WG friends who are local to me, but I guess I will have to exercise caution, I think I'm far too trusting and open as a person :)
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Dani on 05 April 2015, 07:35:03 pm
There are some lovely women out there in this industry and some not so lovely women just like in any other job.  Why not contact a few who seem like they may have similar views to you and make friends that way.  Talk about work with them as in the ups and down but DONT talk about anything you wouldn't want the whole world knowing.  simply because you wouldn't know them well enough to trust them with details you want kept secret.  Its not even about them being WGs but you don't tell anyone secrets unless you have known them for years and they have earned your trust. 

I have female escort friends who know a fair bit about my life but they don't know anything I wouldn't tell anyone as although we are friends I don't know them well enough to trust them with intimate details.  Same with a few of my male friends, I know them quite well and we have been friends for 8 years but I still don't know them well enough to trust them with details I don't want everyone to know

Keep things like that for family and long time friends.  I have been burned by trusting a couple of escorts over the years and have a lot of money stolen (Money I had saved for 8months). I have almost lost my work flat due to another turning up drunk and screaming at the neighbours and found another who had begged me to promote her to my clients as she had no work and I was off for a month as had been in hospital who then went and told these clients everything I had said about them as well as telling them I had an STI and refused to get it treated (thankfully these guys rang me to tell me as they didn't believe I would work if I had an STI).

Its easy to make escort friends but don't be in a rush to trust anyone and always remember they may see you as competition even if you don't appeal to the same type of men
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: firsttimer on 05 April 2015, 08:27:31 pm
My best friend is an escort, but we didn't know when we met- which led to much hilarity when we found out. We talk about everything, and I s'pose we're more like sisters now.
My other closest friend I met on the job, and she has since given up and is in a relationship.

Met a few girls through duos and forums who have become good mates too, it's alway fun to head out with people who really 'get' you.

I've fallen foul of a few girls now who weren't independant and really lashed out as I became more successful within my area and refused to go back to being in a working flat  :(

Always stay wary, unless you really know someone is there for you. I think we work in one of the most (for some people) competitive industries about, and some people don't take kindly to other's on their 'turf'  >:(
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Erotic flower on 06 April 2015, 12:31:38 pm
Ive been fucked over more in the civvy jobs ive had by people than in this industry.
Ive encountered support kindness and helpfulness on here and outside the forum with girls ive chatted with on the phone too.   
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Velor on 06 April 2015, 03:29:37 pm
I do have some good friends. Two of them I've known long enough to trust completely - the three of us spend quite a bit of time together and I feel like I know what they'd do in any given situation (i.e., they won't fuck me over.) We know one another's real names, etc.

 There are a couple of others I've met that I think are lovely and have no reason to distrust and I quite like them and am willing to spend more time with. None of us know one another's real names, I don't think, but there's no real rush to share those details.

To my thinking, there are different levels of trust. I have relatively little at risk in terms of being outed by anyone. That's not my issue. None of the women I know and like seem inclined to be malicious and I don't see them doing anything stupid like trying to fuck up my reputation with clients. (I have heard tales of jealousy along those lines.)

The final level is more in terms of what sort of person they'd be if it came to loaning money or something like that - general flakiness Would I share a flat with them, trust them to turn up for a shared tour, etc. None of these women seem flakey but I can't really say for sure. Have heard many a tale of a girl fucking over another for rent or something when they thought they knew them very well. That is something you just can't know about a person until you know them very well indeed and people are frequently surprised when someone they thought they knew does a runner with rent or whatever. I certainly have no reason to doubt any of the ladies I'm friendly with, but prossies are often a bit unstable and it wouldn't shock me if I were to, say, pay for a two-bedroom serviced flat and the other girl flaked out leaving me to pay for the whole thing. Those things happen.

You spoke my exact feelings on sharing a flat.
I tend to trust people however I've been let down quite a few times. I tend to treat others as I would like to be treated ( sounds cliche but true) anyhow this has lead me to keep low and just do my stuff alone I have a few working girls I'm in touch with to call them friends not quite ,acquaintances yes. I still dream of finding that perfect escort friend whose impeccable with their word , for now my sister is all I tell and I know she has my back I keep hoping my sister could join this, it would be fabulous as she's my true best friend. I do believe there are many genuinely nice girls out there but the nice ones are scared and keep to themselves too 😱
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Velor on 06 April 2015, 03:31:27 pm
I use this forum to chat to others in the same boat whether we have a clash of opinions or not as I think it's always good to chat because the job definitely is isolating if your family and friends don't know HOWEVER, I learnt very early on not to trust other working girls. I had my fingers seriously brunt and nearly lost everything. Never again.

I've even had problems (silly drama) with 1 or 2 ladies I've gotten particular close to through forums that's caused me nothing but bother when all I've ever tried to do is help or be supportive but when they turn on me, I ain't no doormat and try not to take any shit but now I just don't bother my arse getting close to anyone in this game escort wise in any way, shape or forum.

I have a few very good clients that I also class as friends who I do trust though.

xx

Hugs x
Always happens to the nice ones :(
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 06 April 2015, 04:28:31 pm
It's just people though isn't it, nothing to do with sex work. I've known plenty of bitches in every area of life, and I'd say civvys are far less understanding of the importance of keeping gossip to themselves

Think this idea of sex workers being bitches probably stems from that stereotype of street workers fighting for punters/space.

Just because we fuck for money doesn't mean we don't have morals 
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: The_Lynx on 06 April 2015, 05:58:53 pm
I have just recently started chatting to another woman in my country, whom I hope to meet for a coffee and a chat next time I find myself in her hometown. Quite excited about this prospect, to be honest. :)
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: meetingdiversity on 08 April 2015, 12:56:18 am
This line of work can be a lot to deal with by yourself. I try to make friends so I can have someone to talk to but idek if I can trust anyone. Do any of you have friends in the industry? How did you make them? How do you know they'll keep ALL your secrets

Escort friends I am weary of as they could mess around with your buisness. Only tell what you don't mind being spoken with others about. It is good to be cautious. Friends outside of escorting to have are very good. When not seeing clients the last thing want to do is talk more about like to switch off doing personal things. There are two I can talk to about any thing non escort friends. Personally I would rarther earn inbetween doing my own thing leaving not much room. But using the forum is good in a way, viewed friendly giving advice with various escorts. The best option to take if you wanted to meet up with others as friends is to share many things in common. Or it would be a personality clash that awkward tension. What about joining some get together groups meetup dot com. That way it is first hand you will know better about getting on with others in a fun setting. 
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: meetingdiversity on 08 April 2015, 01:05:49 am
It's just people though isn't it, nothing to do with sex work. I've known plenty of bitches in every area of life, and I'd say civvys are far less understanding of the importance of keeping gossip to themselves

Think this idea of sex workers being bitches probably stems from that stereotype of street workers fighting for punters/space.

Just because we fuck for money doesn't mean we don't have morals


When you hear stories about other escorts doing over escorts it stems from that. Escorting isnt as trust worthy as a civies, I am not saying cives are 100% trustworthy but the percentage must be higher than escort. For one they live in the normal life no competition. Thier way of living is different.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: The_Lynx on 08 April 2015, 05:08:06 am
It's just people though isn't it, nothing to do with sex work. I've known plenty of bitches in every area of life, and I'd say civvys are far less understanding of the importance of keeping gossip to themselves

Think this idea of sex workers being bitches probably stems from that stereotype of street workers fighting for punters/space.

Just because we fuck for money doesn't mean we don't have morals


When you hear stories about other escorts doing over escorts it stems from that. Escorting isnt as trust worthy as a civies, I am not saying cives are 100% trustworthy but the percentage must be higher than escort. For one they live in the normal life no competition. Thier way of living is different.

Any two self-employed individuals who happen to work in the same industry are, in fact, competition to each other. Moreover, even in salary environments, there is a competition for promotions - people in office environments can be vicious. You have a pretty idealized view of other lines of work if you believe competition doesn't exist there.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: meetingdiversity on 08 April 2015, 01:39:23 pm
No in fact a civy and an escort there is no competition, I wasn't talking about what you are in the first place. My post was not about two civys. It was about an escort and a civy if you re read my post properly. The difference between an escort and civy differs. I am well aware that competition exist every where in all lines of work (common sense) but of course what I don't state on my posts it doesn't mean that don't know. I am very aware thank you for your concern.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 08 April 2015, 05:55:11 pm
I have 5 wg mates who I have known and been friends with since I began.They have never done anything wrong to me and we look out for each other.We met via a local forum.I just think arseholes are arseholes and the job has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Danielle AW on 08 April 2015, 06:15:09 pm
the job has nothing to do with it i agree iv meant some amazing girls through this line of work..one of which doesn't even live in the country anymore and we keep in touch via whattsapp every week more or less we have a chat and i haven't seen her in person for nearly 2 years. Yeah you meet some dick heads but you meet those in normal life too.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Kristina Escort on 08 April 2015, 06:17:59 pm
One of my best friends is a WG we met away from work and I told her what i did as i do with anyone I am getting to know and want as a close friend.  She then told me she was an Escort too and isolated as no one knew - now she has some very good friends who are my friends and we all look out for one another which is lovely - there are no problems and we even go on holidays together which is lovely and works well for us.  We both respect each other and take into account the others feelings - yes there are moments but there are in any friendship and good friendships don't come easy so are worth hanging on to
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Danielle AW on 08 April 2015, 06:21:39 pm
Kristina sounds like it was fate that you 2 met lol x
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Siorse on 08 April 2015, 06:58:20 pm
I used to have WG friends years ago but it was just because we seen eachother every night on the street or in the sauna's
I worked in.
Nowadays I don't have any personal WG friends, that's how I'm so glad I've got friends on here!  :D
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: tigerlily on 09 April 2015, 12:25:54 am
I do ;D I have a good friend whom I met at a FFM booking with a client and we were chatting afterwards and then bumped into each other at sex workers breakfasts. We do duo bookings together now as well.

I have met up with a couple of people from twitter. They're all great and people I know I'll get on with because we have similar views on things like feminism, sex worker's rights, LGBTQ issues etc. Quite a lot of them are involved in sex worker activism as well.

I'm fairly open with most people though. The only people I wouldn't want to find out would be future employers (which is why I blur my face in photos) and my parents - although even if they found out I think they'd be okay with it as long as I was safe and happy. My partner knows about my job and is supportive - I've told a few of his friends and a few of my friends know as well. Everyone I've told has been someone who I've known for certain wouldn't have an issue with it.

+1  ;D

I've had loads of positive experiences with fellow working girls/gals. Nice to have friends for buddies, picture exchange, duo partners, sex toy advice, touring buddies, exchanging tips, clothing swaps, having someone to chat to so you don't accidentally out yourself to civvy friends when you're having a really bad day.

I now am confident that sex workers are not dumb floozies ;)
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: MsDee on 09 April 2015, 09:25:32 am
I have acquintances, I have one very good friend who I have known for 4 years who I would definately call a friend.

Unfortunately last year was the last straw to break this camels back after assuming someone was my friend only to find out she has been going around spewing crap to anybody who would listen to her telling people how evil I am etc and not to be trusted.  Only for a few people to come back and tell me about it all, so you can imagine my surprise when 2 weeks ago I received an email from this person asking me how I was did I want to meet for lunch etc and when can we start touring again.  Then she went on to gossip about the exact same people she probably went and gossiped about me too.  She also got her little Neanderthal gimps worked up about me, so no I do not trust anybody in this industry.  But in saying that it does not mean I would not go out of my way to helps somebody out who needed it.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Sassy Slapper on 09 April 2015, 09:51:42 am
I had this issue online, another escort was new to a place I frequent online and took exception to the fact that I know a lot of the guys on there. She tried to cause massive issues for me and when she finally got her warnings as she was caught out redhanded in lies to the guys about me she then got two of her lack clients to harass me also. Lots of fake bookings, slagging me off in the pm system you know that sort of thing.

I can never understand why a guy would even get involved in harassing a girl on behalf of another. To me it screams E.A.S gone bad. Its utterly ridiculous and totally unfair
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Princess on 09 April 2015, 08:42:40 pm
My best friend is a sex worker and I trust her explicitly, more than anyone in my world. I have known her for 10 years now

I have meet other working girls and been used to there advantage, my friend reminded me not all girls are as trusting as me and that I should protect myself more. Lesson learnt lol

I've got loads of other friends who know what I do also family, my work life isn't a secret and I prefer it that way.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 10 April 2015, 07:34:11 pm
It's just people though isn't it, nothing to do with sex work. I've known plenty of bitches in every area of life, and I'd say civvys are far less understanding of the importance of keeping gossip to themselves

Think this idea of sex workers being bitches probably stems from that stereotype of street workers fighting for punters/space.

Just because we fuck for money doesn't mean we don't have morals



When you hear stories about other escorts doing over escorts it stems from that. Escorting isnt as trust worthy as a civies, I am not saying cives are 100% trustworthy but the percentage must be higher than escort. For one they live in the normal life no competition. Thier way of living is different.

I disagree, I'm not the kind of person to be competitive or conniving and I'm a hooker
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: MsDee on 11 April 2015, 10:26:21 am
It's just people though isn't it, nothing to do with sex work. I've known plenty of bitches in every area of life, and I'd say civvys are far less understanding of the importance of keeping gossip to themselves

Think this idea of sex workers being bitches probably stems from that stereotype of street workers fighting for punters/space.

Just because we fuck for money doesn't mean we don't have morals



When you hear stories about other escorts doing over escorts it stems from that. Escorting isnt as trust worthy as a civies, I am not saying cives are 100% trustworthy but the percentage must be higher than escort. For one they live in the normal life no competition. Thier way of living is different.

I disagree, I'm not the kind of person to be competitive or conniving and I'm a hooker

Just because you are not competitive or conniving does not mean other girls aren't and will not take advantage of your good nature.  Just always keep your personal and private information about yourself to yourself, do not for a single second think that someone in this industry would not hesitate to use it against you.  It is a terrible thought but none the less true.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 11 April 2015, 11:39:33 am
It's just people though isn't it, nothing to do with sex work. I've known plenty of bitches in every area of life, and I'd say civvys are far less understanding of the importance of keeping gossip to themselves

Think this idea of sex workers being bitches probably stems from that stereotype of street workers fighting for punters/space.

Just because we fuck for money doesn't mean we don't have morals



When you hear stories about other escorts doing over escorts it stems from that. Escorting isnt as trust worthy as a civies, I am not saying cives are 100% trustworthy but the percentage must be higher than escort. For one they live in the normal life no competition. Thier way of living is different.

I disagree, I'm not the kind of person to be competitive or conniving and I'm a hooker

Just because you are not competitive or conniving does not mean other girls aren't and will not take advantage of your good nature.  Just always keep your personal and private information about yourself to yourself, do not for a single second think that someone in this industry would not hesitate to use it against you.  It is a terrible thought but none the less true.

Totally agree, I just mean you use your common sense as you would with any new friends. There's lovely wg's and bitches, same as anywhere
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: tigerlily on 11 April 2015, 12:35:35 pm
It's just people though isn't it, nothing to do with sex work. I've known plenty of bitches in every area of life, and I'd say civvys are far less understanding of the importance of keeping gossip to themselves

Think this idea of sex workers being bitches probably stems from that stereotype of street workers fighting for punters/space.

Just because we fuck for money doesn't mean we don't have morals



When you hear stories about other escorts doing over escorts it stems from that. Escorting isnt as trust worthy as a civies, I am not saying cives are 100% trustworthy but the percentage must be higher than escort. For one they live in the normal life no competition. Thier way of living is different.

I disagree, I'm not the kind of person to be competitive or conniving and I'm a hooker

Just because you are not competitive or conniving does not mean other girls aren't and will not take advantage of your good nature.  Just always keep your personal and private information about yourself to yourself, do not for a single second think that someone in this industry would not hesitate to use it against you.  It is a terrible thought but none the less true.

But I think it's a bad idea to assume WGs in general are more conniving than the general population. It all makes us sound like selfish bitches, not just girls trying to make a living. To me, it just re-enforces anti sex worker stereotypes that assume we're soulless money hungry sinners.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: lailah terri on 11 April 2015, 01:17:53 pm
I would love to have a wg buddy who I can go shopping with, discuss shit days, travel and tour, rant about studies and student debt hehe.

I just don't trust anyone enough to get that close anymore. I lived with a wg for a little while and she told my agency my real name!? Why I don't know, there was no need to. She also tried to create drama between me and another girl  :FF and just generally didn't like to see others doing well.

I meet lots of girls at duos and parties but have never met 'the one' hehe, Maybe it's just me? I've exchanged a few numbers, had a few coffees, repeat duos but nowt. All the ones I get a long with have retired  or were only touring the uk, typical eh!?

I'm accepting that I will probably be a Lone Ranger in this game  :'(
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: meetingdiversity on 11 April 2015, 02:23:28 pm
It would be a good idea to take a gamble but at a cost of getting bitten. That is enough to put any one off. Really... When stopped escorting be prepered to lose or have miminal contact with wgs friends just how it goes in life.  Then you will see the title of this thread.

Let me put it like this... SAAFE would be of no interest if left escorting totally closing the door. We wouldn't  be members  If had no intention of escorting what use would that be. There are two ways of living whoring and the civy life. I am real about this.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 11 April 2015, 03:18:40 pm
It would be a good idea to take a gamble but at a cost of getting bitten. That is enough to put any one off. Really... When stopped escorting be prepered to lose or have miminal contact with wgs friends just how it goes in life.  Then you will see the title of this thread.

Let me put it like this... SAAFE would be of no interest if left escorting totally closing the door. We wouldn't  be members  If had no intention of escorting what use would that be. There are two ways of living whoring and the civy life. I am real about this.

Well to me you're wrong. I'm not just a whore I'm a student, and a sister/daughter.

More to the point I still have friends who gave up whoring years ago

You can't just tar everyone with the same brush, we're all different. Just like all sales assistants are different and conduct their lives/relationships differently
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: MsDee on 11 April 2015, 03:57:19 pm
But I think it's a bad idea to assume WGs in general are more conniving than the general population. It all makes us sound like selfish bitches, not just girls trying to make a living. To me, it just re-enforces anti sex worker stereotypes that assume we're soulless money hungry sinners.

I do agree but I think it is a lot more prolific in this industry where professional jealousy over another woman you might not know from adam can happen.  We work in an industry where if it is slow or work starts to dwindle we tend to blame others than to take a long hard look at ourselves first and in such instances there are people who will lash out at innocent bystanders.




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Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Shewolf on 11 April 2015, 05:53:12 pm
I would love to have a wg buddy who I can go shopping with, discuss shit days, travel and tour, rant about studies and student debt hehe.

I just don't trust anyone enough to get that close anymore. I lived with a wg for a little while and she told my agency my real name!? Why I don't know, there was no need to. She also tried to create drama between me and another girl  :FF and just generally didn't like to see others doing well.

I meet lots of girls at duos and parties but have never met 'the one' hehe, Maybe it's just me? I've exchanged a few numbers, had a few coffees, repeat duos but nowt. All the ones I get a long with have retired  or were only touring the uk, typical eh!?

I'm accepting that I will probably be a Lone Ranger in this game  :'(

I would love to have a WG buddy too. I am both civvy and doing sex work so does that make me conniving or not I wonder?  ;D
I'm not conniving to be honest at all, I would be a good mate first and foremost to anyone in this game as I would have respect for them x
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: tigerlily on 12 April 2015, 11:43:35 pm
Yes. No. Yes. No.

It's human nature to blame everyone else for your problems instead of taking a long hard look at yerself, not prossie nature. And who are the innocent bystanders? If you assume that working girls will screw you over, than you'll always see a working girl screwing someone over. Yeah, I get that people have had bad experiences with other sex workers, legit, okay that all sucks and it is a good idea to watch your back in any industry amongst any friends. But, you know, you could have had a bad experience with your teaching colleague and then would you say, "well in the education business all teacher's are cutthroat because there aren't enough jobs so best not to have any friends in the industry at all..." but who would say that because teachers are good self-less citizens, right?




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Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 13 April 2015, 12:00:06 am
Yes. No. Yes. No.

It's human nature to blame everyone else for your problems instead of taking a long hard look at yerself, not prossie nature. And who are the innocent bystanders? If you assume that working girls will screw you over, than you'll always see a working girl screwing someone over. Yeah, I get that people have had bad experiences with other sex workers, legit, okay that all sucks and it is a good idea to watch your back in any industry amongst any friends. But, you know, you could have had a bad experience with your teaching colleague and then would you say, "well in the education business all teacher's are cutthroat because there aren't enough jobs so best not to have any friends in the industry at all..." but who would say that because teachers are good self-less citizens, right?

Agree

God some of the backstabbing and bitching I've endured in other industries is horrendous




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Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: SelenaLondon on 13 April 2015, 01:28:22 am
I used to have WG friends years ago but it was just because we seen eachother every night on the street or in the sauna's
I worked in.
Nowadays I don't have any personal WG friends, that's how I'm so glad I've got friends on here!  :D

awww this is sweet siorse.

we love u

x
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Fabulassie on 13 April 2015, 08:27:39 am
I think the stakes can be a bit higher in terms of being outed.

And I do think that there are some unstable people in this industry. I've definitely dealt with some nasty people in straight jobs - no doubt about that - but I think it plays out differently in most cases because of the nature of the business and what's at stake.

Let me put it this way: there's another WG in my block of flats. I see her all the time but I've never introduced myself to her because there's just too much at stake. The odds are pretty good that she recognises me, as well, but she and I have never done more than smile politely as if at any other neighbour.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Bella.X on 14 April 2015, 07:06:30 pm
Quoting from Miss K XXX
There is good and bad in all walks of life and all occupations but other people in other occupations don't then go and out you (expose you) to your family and friends.

If an escort doesn't get her way or looses the plot like many do over the slightest little thing, they always have a hold over you to use as blackmail. I'm speaking from experience here.

I was far too trusting with my real name and details and let's just say that because I couldn't handle another escorts drinking and coke taking (which turned them into aggressive, argumentative and violent head cases)
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This happened to me too :( Mine was more of jealousy and me complaining they weren't screening/vetting clients properly before letting them in. I've learned to be very discreet even when dealing with fellow wg's. I don't give my real name, details and all that anymore.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: TheLittleMatchGirl on 14 April 2015, 07:17:26 pm
Quoting from Miss K XXX
There is good and bad in all walks of life and all occupations but other people in other occupations don't then go and out you (expose you) to your family and friends.

If an escort doesn't get her way or looses the plot like many do over the slightest little thing, they always have a hold over you to use as blackmail. I'm speaking from experience here.

I was far too trusting with my real name and details and let's just say that because I couldn't handle another escorts drinking and coke taking (which turned them into aggressive, argumentative and violent head cases)

This happened to me too :( Mine was more of jealousy and me complaining they weren't screening/vetting clients properly before letting them in. I've learned to be very discreet even when dealing with fellow wg's. I don't give my real name, details and all that anymore.
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Course they do, just a quick read through here will show plenty have been outed by non escorts like friends/boyfriends etc
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: jamie 1 on 15 April 2015, 09:04:06 am
I do have some friends in this business but feel I can only trust about 2 other workers.

I was a bit gullible to start off with and trusted quite a few people.

The ones that come across as really friendly are the worse as they just wanna know your business and are just nosey bastards.

I have recently put this on a blog in my profile,without the swearing,excuse the French x  :)
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: meetingdiversity on 15 April 2015, 01:05:12 pm
Or you can get friendly people who are not too fussed about others business. It just sounds like you met the wrong ones. You get nosy people everywhere just tell them what you don't mind be spoken to others. No personal info as such. Things like this makes me appreciate not having been in that situation ever. Trust is a big thing usually people need to earn it before being trusted. Or open up to getting screwed over.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: jamie 1 on 15 April 2015, 01:44:32 pm
I have found the members and admin on here more than helpful

I would have no hesitation asking folk on here for advice, and if it's personal I can contact the person I feel comfortable with by p.m message  x  :)
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: brownsugar on 22 April 2015, 09:08:21 am
Doe anyone have information on WG breakfasts or meetups?  Has any of you Ladies/Gents attended any?  Yes this work does get lonely,  when I was beginning I trusted the wrong people. I got turfed out of my home ( I never worked in my home) but the landlord is religious so when my so called friends rang him and sent my adultwork profile, sex videos, and escort website, he kicked me out.  I almost even got outted to family, when I moved cos both places I lived was students accomodation and the same company the Landlord and the girl and her hench men made sure the new place they knew all about me.  I leave my room I have to lock or take everything valuable with me cos it got so bad with people going through my things, damaging my property,amongst other things, I had to go to the police  and recently with a similar pattern of trolls calling me I think I have to involve the police much more this time. (first time round I did not pursue/ tell them everything cos I was scared of them knowing I am a WG and my family finding out, but since finding out  I am not breaking the law and I pay my taxes.   Sigh  ::) :FF I would move if I could afford it currently, but I am working towards it.
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Erotic flower on 22 April 2015, 03:29:50 pm
Hi Brown sugar I will PM you details of a wg breakfast Wednesdays 11am-1pm im attending next week sounds quite good  :)
I'm always ok to support others in this industry & never fucked someone over or outed them to others.
im just not that kind of person even though I've had people do it to me whom arnt in this industry but they were ignorant judgemental gossips. 
Title: Re: "Aint no friends in the game you aint learn that yet"
Post by: Curvygal on 25 April 2015, 02:53:56 pm
No.

It's not through dismissing other WGs out of hand, or being too picky, I have got closer to some girls in the past but it's always backfired on me.

The last time was the bitch I posted about who ended up copying my AW profile for herself.  SO now I chat on here and keep myself to myself out there....I think unless you're working in parlours/flats/agencies it's not so easy to meet others anyway.

Shame really as it can be lonely.  But there you go.  Just been bitten too many times I guess.